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I love that. I love that. You know, if you slapped on the right cheek, you turn and get your left cheek slapped. Askaiti Karishan, I say ma, good morning. You're watching from here. Thank you. You've not mentioned the place. JJ Ozengar, I say ma, mombasaani to kondani, tena sanam, ma, humry, yenpoh, hayapoh. Okay. Polite same and I say ma, Ana reply back with a hot coffee to react our brain. I love this word because I had given someone an option of 3 Fs. Flee, fight, freeze and literally that happens to everyone in any emergency situation. Your brain literally goes into freezing mode. Or if you are an agitated person who is abrasive, you fight back. Or if you are a scared person, you run away. That's the word, flee. Last one. Joseph knew he cannot say much. Just walk away, cool down, then come back with your sour. No need to fight him. Good. Love that. Keep on sending your feedback on that hashtag, which is why in the morning at Branson Corner 1, Art 1, 2, 4, 4 channel. And we're being joined live by Matthew Muania, he's from the University of Nairobi and Byron Otiena from JQA. Good morning, Karibuni Saned. I'm going to go straight up to you, Byron, if you are slapped by your verified. What do you do? So it's my verified slapping. Exactly. I guess I'll freeze. Then I just go dead quiet, won't say nothing. And if she's still agitated or still going a lot physical, then I'll just leave the room. Okay. Then come back when she's settled to talk it out. Right. You'll explain why. I'll get back to you. Matthew? To me, the same case, things first, real men don't beat their wives for that case. Real men don't beat their wives for that case. Okay. Yeah. But let's stand the tables. It's an attacker, female attacker, you're in a situation, could be on the streets or in a crowd, and she comes gump-blazing at you and she slaps you. So what are you going to do to access that verified and the rest of the EMS? So it depends on how aggressive this attacker is. If you come at me and I wasn't expecting it, my automatic reaction will be to hit you back so hard. Then if I turn and look at you and you're a lady, what do I think I'll hold you if I can't then I'll beat you up. Okay. Yeah. This is an attack. A stranger. Yeah. At an event. Yeah. What about you? To me, she must face it rough. You'll have to eat her back. Yeah. Because I don't see the effect of just turning at me, slapping me for no reasons. But again, I can try to inquire the reason why you do make another step of just slapping me. Yeah. In public. In public. An attack. Do you even have time to inquire? You know. You imagine you're walking on the streets and somebody jumps on you up at Okitoka. Do you have time to inquire? First of all, you're in shock. Yeah. Your mental state is all over. Yeah. You don't have time to figure it out. You're either running away or returning the slap or... To me, I don't return the slap. Yeah. You return the slap. But I love the way you guys are two-sided. Massimotri, you draw the line where it's your partner. Yeah. Apple, you are. So let me ask you. We have so many cases of Storina GBV, gender-based violence. Last week there was a video of this guy who was being beaten by this chick. I don't know if you guys saw it. I think it was outside a club or something. And this chiller was beating the Jews out of this guy and this guy was just there. And people were cheering, you know. And it just shows how, you know, people love violence out here. So what should have this guy done? And there's somebody who says, the wrong item, instead of buying the right item, as in how does it get to that point that you're being punished by this partner of yours? What could lead to that? If it comes to the moment when the lady is now openly abusing the man right in front of a club with people watching them, this is something that has begun oil earlier. It's something that they're used to as a couple. So in my instance, that can never happen. But in that case... Yeah. He should have walked away and then the lady pulled him back in. I think he didn't actually walk away. He was overwhelmed because she was slapping him from the face, downwards, t-shirt. Like it was an ugly slapation of a situation going on, you know. He should have walked away. He should have run away. Yeah. He should not have been there. Because he looked tipsy or drunk, drunk-ish, you know. That was too embarrassing. Yeah. I was embarrassed from his behavior. Okay. Did you say the video? I didn't see it. But from the... You have explained it the way he has said about it. To me, that is a real man, even if he was drunker. You should never show that you are aggressive or you are too violent outside. Just stay calm. Wait for it. At that time, she would realize that, hey, maybe I was wrong. Maybe I did it wrongly. So she would come and request forgiveness. So that's a real man. He should not fight back. He's a victim to me. He's not a real man. He's a victim. But I'll ask you another question. In nowadays, stories of GBV are being reported. Most of the stories that are being highlighted is actually the ladies reporting. Is it possible to have a man who can confidently come out and say, hey, whether you meet them in Konaewan and he jump out of school Monday to Friday, as Yezi said much Is it possible for you to garner that confidence and come out and say, or even tell your friends and open up and tell them, hey, maybe he's drunk, but that means he's drunk. Now, is he drunk or is he drunk? Mr. Bryan, allow me to bring to you conscious that men are really suffering outside. They are not drinking. I feel we feel it's a good embarrassment. It's the same as when you are drunk, so you feel shy. But men are really facing it. One is drunk and the other is not. But at the moment when we touch a woman, she's there. Why? Why is that? Because one thing, men are made who you are. That's the habit of men. In terms of life, men are made to laugh. You just see a lady from Konaewan, you feel, ah, I'm sure she's drunk. So men are made who you are. So in very rare cases, it's 0.001% what I'm talking about. Because you're shy? Is it because you're shy or you're afraid? Most of them are weak. Most of them, they are shy and in fear of, ah, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. So they are shy and again in fear of what to do. Do you have anything to lose when you report of a violent case? In fact, nothing. Bono system, you know. But the key thing is that men want to go up. They are in fear and they are sure to say that one is drunk. So you're drunk, your mother? One is drunk and the other is on the ground. For instance, when I'm with a man, maybe it's because he's drunk. If he's drunk, it's because he's fed up. One thing is, a lady fights a man. A man who's not drunk but in a rare case, he's a man. And he fights back to the lady. But if he's drunk, they just take it away. Bring the question back again. December, why don't men report being beaten? It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. That's number one reason I'm born, embarrassing. As a man, what makes you a man? It's the status. What makes you a man? It's how you carry yourself. It's how the society views you. Otherwise, to talk with a man and bug. That's a man. Soap, soap was your cost. Soap, soap. You're not a man enough. So if you were being beaten by your lady, then already you're not a man enough. That is how the society views it. So you're not a man enough. You're being beaten by the lady. Just imagine adding reporting this entire thing and making it known to the public. Do you have anything to lose if you report? No. You have nothing to lose. Because at the end of the day, the way the society sees you should not matter that much. It's you. It's you. It's your well-being. It's your mental well-being and your physical and spiritual well-being. So it is right to report these things. But then, first of all, they are wouldn't. Yeah. They are wouldn't. You wouldn't report. They are wouldn't. What is another possible or alternative solution to a violent partner, especially now the boy child since it's a man took, let's assume you're being beaten. But I'm sure it starts with some level of combativeness. All of them are dramatic. They have their own issues. They do something called projecting because they don't have anyone to hear them out and they're dealing with other stuff. So whenever they find anyone that can be an outlet, they pour the anger on you. They're being dramatic and acting out. So for example, it's you. What would you do in that situation? I'm not a fan of dramatic ladies. No. So in case there's a period, you just don't jump into dating somebody. During this period, I should be able to tell if you're that kind or not. I'll keep you. I'll tag you along for the longest period possible. But people hide. People put up a show. You know? Somebody can hide their skeletons. Everybody has skeletons anyways in their closet. But it's not enough. It's enough for the first two, three, four, five months. But along the journey, the red flags keep popping up. I also believe that when it comes to relationships, stuff and everything, men are the best actors. Oh, men are the best actors. I also believe you. I believe you. I believe you. Inasmuch as they might try to hide it at one point. Yeah. Not so long into the thing. The lady will give you the signs. If you're keen enough, you'll see it. Right. But if it turns out that I was pegged along and now in this situation, I don't take that or leave. You'll fly. Okay. But it takes a process. If it's a person you are in love with and you've built a solid relationship, it takes time for that bond to depreciate. You just walk up and you call it quits. But it has happened. I've heard stories of people who broke up in text and you're like, I don't want to behave. By the way, if you're no longer, it's the Lupita style. Anyways, I'll get back to you. So, in your situation. To me, same case, I don't love dramatic girls. Dramatic, meaning? Yeah. Dramatic can vary. Right. This drama, it's like, I don't know if it's because of Dita or V2. I don't know if it's because of... I don't know if it's because of the people, the commotion of people, don't let this V2 to the scene. Right. To my case, during your courtship, the first question is, during the courtship time, what were you trying to learn from your partner? That should be the first case. A courtship of, for example, one year, you should be able to learn your partner very well. Very well. Most of the men, you should be a gentleman enough to learn your partner very well. I didn't know how to solve it. When I was a kid, when I went to the teacher, he told me, if you want to go to school, you have to go to the bus. So, I told him, if you want to go to school, you can go to school. If you want to go to school, you can go to school. It's not an attempt of testing. Those kinds of, these are my temptations. You learn a lot from your partner. But people put up a show. Me too, I can put up a perfect image, but it makes me a liar. But out there, I'm so sweet to a lot of people. But in real person, I'm a bomb. I can put up for that long, for less than six months, into it, you see something different. People act out all the time to protect their personality for fast immigration. In that case, for example, the courtship of one year, it will not take long. At a point, there will be a sign. And symptoms will show up. Signs and symptoms of violence. Of violence. But if you want to go to school, if you want to go to school, if you want to go to school, if you want to go to school, if you want to go to school, if you want to go to school, if you want to do some drama, it will not take long. It will not take long. You will come to know about it. You will never hide from your partner for too long. Okay, I agree with your 1000%. But story in anger. Anger, I think is different. And I think it also varies. It plays out a lot in relationships. In the Esau story, there are GBB, they come out very often. Let me come back to you, Baru. What do you think could trigger you, in public or private, whether in verified, in permanent, and the rest of them ends, what could trigger a lady to slap you? And you're a gentleman in this case. That must mean I've done something that, I think I've done something that she deems a sign of disrespect to her. Now that is a lady. You see, a lady is English, it's an English word. And it means much more than we perceive that a lady is not a grown young girl transitioning to be a woman. The ladyship is about behavior, the ladyship about how you carry yourself. A lady was not anybody in the traditional England. It was somebody who held a certain sturtence. They never mixed with the peasants just that easy. So a lady, somebody, somebody that you can respect, I cannot respect a dramatic lady, what is that respect about you? So, you may see a stopper for dramatic, because I always say I don't like dramatic ladies. But he also said the same thing. But drama, he explained his version of drama. What is your version of drama? Drama equals petty to me. Being petty. Yeah, we are redefining the word understanding in this situation in our society right now. But drama equals not understanding. So not understanding in terms of whatever they're saying is not understanding today, I don't understand what they say is understanding today, by the way. But I think that is being petty. Drama means petty. Doing what you should not be doing. Reacting or you should not be reacting. Some people just overreact. You make a lot of noise, you talk a lot of nonsense, and that has been dramatic to me. Okay. But you're explaining a part where a lady could slap you. What could lead you? For example, just now in real life, to see a movie is like, you know, these guys in Laban Hippo, Atlanta, Orill House, Atlanta, they're sitting and these are the guys like hugging this Chile. That's a movie set up kind of example. Real life, Kenya, Nairobi. Before your buddies. Like I told you, part of the reasons why ladies slap men is because men tend to disrespect ladies. You cannot just walk up to a lady and you spank them and you expect them to react nicely. See, she's not your girl. This is not your girl. And you just walk up to her and spank her. What do you expect? That's too disrespectful. There's a difference between somebody and somebody assaulting you. If a lady you don't know just to walk up to you and hit you, that's another thing. Sure, that's not how we do things. Most of us have something to protect it. And that's the character of a gentleman, by the way. Remember the question is a gentleman. So you don't expect a gentleman to be spanking like you used the word ladies in public. Yeah. So if you're so mean, I'm a gentleman, I think I'll give it back to you. If I don't give it back, 100% sure, I'll give it back to you. Okay, yeah. Whatever you want. To me, my take is that you must have done something bad. For example, you say that you are verified at a town. Yeah. For me, ladies, I met with women. Now, when I meet ladies, then you're going to be verified. Then you're going to be a lady who is a match. One of the things that I do is I don't know what to do. For a sure bet, you are verified. Much slap you because you are misbehaving. That means that it is you who disrespect me. So she has to slap you. For in this time, you are now you are verified. It means that she is yours. Everything that she has in our culture. So why you have to have us? So now I'm here. Here, that is a different case. For instance, you are a wife. You need to respect that. Yes. To me, I can't say that. For me, first, I respect the wife. Let me give her whatever she deserves. So this is the best time. To protect yourself from getting a hot slap, not about you. I'm sure to check. You're like, Oh God, I made the worst mistake. I'm not done anything. I've just looked at her. It doesn't mean much. I look at people all the time. Let's get to couples and stories of dating. We've seen which celebrity was this. I think in the story, Amber, he made a trend last week. Allegedly from the subliminal insta stories that Rapude slapped. And Amber came out saying, Oh, I don't condone GBV, Amanda, blah, blah, blah, blah. All the uniform things that she talks about very often when she breaks up with her men. And then people came to her saying, Oh, you're used to doing these. You know, it's your thing. We are not shocked. What not? Idiot. So who should be, who should be blunt here? Is it Rapude or Amber? And was it right that he slapped her in public while she was also trying to feisty another guy? Allegedly. Those two were engaged. Are they married? Now that's another thing that is somebody trying to defend his territory. I don't blame Rapude. That is too much disrespect for a man. How you react to me, how I react to my differ from how you react. But then that is another height of disrespect. Personally, if you do that to me at Iniko now, and then you're officiating somebody, don't come back to mine. Just end of in your nender. If we came together, just go. There's nothing to talk about. At least we can find you if you come and see her. Yeah. Yeah. Why, why so angry? Why so angry that she's the one doing it? And for you, it comes to you doing it. It's okay. But anyways, they say men are visual. Like you are instantly pleased by what you see and what you like. If you don't, cool. That's it next. But for women, it takes time, you know, to get to that journey of liking someone, not just visually. At Anzako, pinpoint so many facets of you. And it really matters, anyways. Yeah. For me, the guy did it well. I said this earlier, that protect your territory. Now again, for the men, but for the ladies, it takes them time. Like you said, for me, I myself, Now, real situation now, for me, it has taken me a time to talk to you. How will you talk? Fine. I don't know, I'm in the process but in the couple of days, I don't know if I'll be able to talk to you. You're still mastering. You're still mastering. But let me tell you, ladies, ladies. I don't know. But let us give respect to the people who are here. The way I say it, protect your territory. Come with me for that instant, B for E and for A. But you have to be careful. I'm not saying that you have to be careful. Come with me to a merger and to an office. You have to be careful. So you have to be careful. You have to be careful with your design. But don't go to the extent that you start bringing them, a multiple of them to the radar. Your radar is at a cost. Still on that note, what is your story, your GBV? Do you, have you ever been in a situation where you're near a pig? To me, I'm a pig lady. You're not Chris Brown. Chris Brown and Rihanna. So for me, I was born in 2020. You were born in 2020? After, I was born, you know, the period of the coronavirus is over. I was born in, I think, from 3rd January. Okay. I was born in 4th, I was born in midterm, I was born in Corona. Then I was born in Yadav. You were born in Yadav. By the way, I was born, I was born in, I was born in, I was born in, I was born in, I was born in Nigeria, how many times? I was born in Nigeria, I was born in Mewana. Yeah. But then I was born in Drespell, for one year you'll never go from Drespell. Okay. So I was born in Eqituni, time to be out Mewana. I was born in Beato, Rosafi. I was born in Tabia, I was born in, so the moment I was born in... So you were born in Drespell? Yes. And in Eqituni, he tried to... She, not he. She, she tried, she tried to cheat me with my closest friend. Damn. That was bad. I was born in Nassar school before I was transferred to boarding school. Oh, this is like your homie, homie, homie, homie. Yeah. So the time I was born, I was born in, I was born in, I was born in, I was born in Nairobi, I was born in December. At that time, I was born in 2018. So 2019... You were at high school, bad? Yeah, I was at high school from two. I was born from two all the time, all the time I was in school, so I was born in 2018. January, 2019, we are in it. We are in the car, we are in the car, lucky. 2020, I was born in Yadav. You were born in Corona, pap. I was born in Yadav. I was born in Kata, Rosafi. And you, I said, yes, sir. And you were born in Jerebukuchi and your homie. I tried to, I was a soccer player. And I didn't know how to play. I was a kid, I used to play in a store. You were a boy then. I was a boy. I used to play in the kitchen. I used to play with the kids. I was a boy. I was like, yes, I was a boy. And I was a boy then. I was born in Kata, Papel. You were born in Abadan, Kataan. Yeah. Interesting. How about you, Bayra, what is your, what is your crazy relationship story? Oh, when you're not playing good one. You don't have one? Yeah, I'm a successful relationship. You're a successful hunter. Always getting your victims on time. So how, break up, no break up, no nothing. Oh, quite a number of break ups. How, the first one that went south? 20, 22. 20? 20. 20. 20, 20. Hey, you knew earlier, I told you that I was a boy. You were a boy. You were a boy. Just in a circle. You knew earlier, I told you that I was a boy. You were a boy. You were 20, 20. Yeah, my first breakup was in 2020. Yeah, you started the whole thing, but it hurt. So what happened? Distance. Yeah. I'm not a fan of distance. I prefer physical presence and seeing around. So if I don't see you that long, I lose it. So what happened? You've just thrown in one distance, see you're that long. What are the nitty gritties of this relationship? Yeah, she was dating me for like three years before that. We started here. We started early. It was nice. Still in high school? Yeah, yeah. And then it had been now one year plus. Atujaonana. Was it because of COVID? Because it's 2020. That's when the pandemic fully got engulfed in Kenya. Yeah, around that period. Still in the same country, another different country. Nice. You went back to Botswana. How do you see such a person? Valid. Valid, valid, valid. Yeah, so I told her, see it can't work. Okay. Yeah. Just let's... Peacefully. Yeah. Ending times. You said that's your first one, but you said that couple. Let's go to the second one and then we switch gears. Let's go to the second one and then we switch gears. So the second one... I don't know. The second one was me at fault again. I've always been at fault. What had you done? Oh, you're always the main character. Atujaonana, main character syndrome. You act your way away and it's your movie. You're the actor, producer, director. And the storyline is you. I'm going to point out script. So what happened in this... So I... I'll say you cheated. I cheated and then... I'm a honest person. I didn't know how to, but I told her. You confessed. Yeah, she got dramatic and that is not my style. I retracted for like three months and then when she came back, she had done her stuff too. Yeah. So you just revenge cheating. You cheated and then she revenges. Yeah. And then we hear... She lied to me about it. Oh, she lied that she didn't do it? She... Alicata. But how did you know though? She got warts. Genital warts. And I'm very good. I have quite an exposure of STIs. I noticed. Damn. So I took her... That same day, we talked. She was claiming like she did some kind of reaction to... I don't know what. Then I took her and she told me... I had to go. It caused me. Yeah. And then after that, after I could go and everything, we stayed for like a week or two. Then now I could not just see her the same way. Yeah. Yeah. So I left. Yeah. And on that lefting point, P.S. is here to the left. We're going to have a part too seriously because we are out of time and we are overrunning. So thank you so much, Byron Otieno and Matthew Martier. We can't continue. We are out of time. Like three minutes out. Okay. So I'll see you tomorrow for Health and Entrepreneurship Tuesday. I'll talk to you for a channel at Brian Sakawano one. Have a fantastic Monday. See you tomorrow.