 Ultimately the the way that the universe collided was I was later to learn and I certainly didn't know that day that the woman the mother That my client killed Was John's wife Yep at one point in the courtroom. They said they wanted 15 to life. Yes. They did. Yes. They did so at that point No negotiations. I try to get him to 10 Nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing. So we are bare minimum 15. Yeah, it's 15 It's like 15. It's basically I got the you know, yeah, go ahead and we walk in a trial and the first time That we're picking a jury and remember exactly the last courtroom on the fourth floor I walk in and and I knew that I was gonna spend the next week or two weeks in that courtroom And I was gonna be eyeball to eyeball with John and his family And at my client's family on one side and this is like a wedding We got the friends of the bride friends of the groom at both sides of the deal and all of a sudden You know, I had the right thing to do is you know, I can't ignore John And I probably should have said something earlier to him in the case But I was hoping that we'd be on and past it Because there is nothing more uncomfortable than face-to-face talking to the person that lost their their their wife That their son their daughter and your client killed them Because you don't have a whole lot of credibility and you're not the good guy as far as the family goes Generally, you're the scoundrel That's trying to keep the murderer out of prison where he or she deserves to be and that was me