 Our body weight only workout programs as effective as workout programs with equipment watch this our first caller is Ashley from Missouri. Hey Ashley. How can we help you? Hi guys, um first I just want to say thank you so much for taking my call I've been following you guys for a little over three years and I recommend you to everyone I know and I'm actually a licensed therapist and I refer you to some of my clients so First just want to say thank you So quick backstory. I bought the mom bundle that you guys offer when I was about seven months pregnant I ran Anabolic two times. I absolutely love it. I ran at eight weeks postpartum just to kind of like get back into movement And then around eight months postpartum And saw significant strength gains on all sorts of ways. I'm very excited to run it again I also ran hit. Um, I loved it It was very different for me because as you guys have referenced I for so many years that hit the wrong way And doing it your way was hard for me at first, but I loved it My question is anywhere maps anywhere was also in that program and that bundle that I got And I have kind of paused on ever running that because I have access to pretty much all of the equipment I could want in our home gym And I just didn't know if running a body weight program Would be beneficial um because I've never run something like that before Or if I should run something different Because I have access to everything and save anywhere for when I don't have access to all that stuff. So just kind of one of your guys's Guidance on that. Love it. Love it. That's a good question because a lot of people confuse equipment free workouts Uh with it being like maybe a substitute a cheap substitute for Better workouts in other words. It's like, you know, it's it's instant coffee. It's not it's not good But it gets the job done type of deal That's not actually that's not the case in fact when we created maps anywhere Now we knew that the way we would market it and the way that people would Want to give it a shot was specifically around the fact that it's could be done anywhere It's if you travel if you don't have access to equipment But when we wrote the program we said specifically look let's create a workout program That stands on its own. That's effective like You know programs that include equipment because what we're not trying to do is just create a cheap substitute Although it's used as a substitute, which is totally fine It needs to stand on its own and that's exactly what we did with maps anywhere And just something interesting happened during the pandemic with maps anywhere on that lots of people Bought the program and ran it because they were forced to try to work out without equipment and the feedback we got Was uh extraordinary everybody was like oh my gosh, just it's a great workout by itself I had trainers contact us and say this is one of the best programmed workouts I've ever done So it totally stands on its own and the way I would use it is I would run it Like you would run any programs you do maps in a balik then you could do maps anywhere Then you could do maps performance and it's just it's different. It's totally different lots of closed chain exercises. There's Isometrics involved There's different movements. You're not going to find another programs. And so you're going to get other benefits From maps anywhere that you won't necessarily get from other programs so my advice would be to At least run it one time by itself and then after that I would use it as like a supplemental thing I just and the reason why I would say that is because to kind of what sal's point is And something that you said which is you've never done it the fact that you've never trained that way The fact that it's novel. I think you're gonna get some great gains from I think you're gonna you're gonna see things that you probably didn't expect And and get some great benefits from it And then after that I could maybe you just because personally I don't use anywhere that often Because I love I love traditional weight training. I love to pick up a barbell and dumbbells and do machines I could just enjoy that more than I do body weight stuff, but I do recognize there's tremendous benefit To doing body weight exercises. So the way I do it is when one I'm either short on time or I'm short on equipment in a hotel yada yada yada So that's how I would use in the future But I do think there's tremendous value in just running it One time to see how you feel. I think you would actually probably really enjoy it It's and we we built it to where you could scale it as far as the intensity mentioned that in terms of the intensified Yeah, it can get really hard. So we did it the idea was you know, could we write something that you know All levels of fitness could get good benefits from it Even if I got an advanced lifter Who's been lifting for a really long time then all of a sudden they run anywhere Could we write something that's body weight and band only and still give them great benefits? And the way we did that was by building in these uh, these Intensifiers that you could do on the off days of your foundational days And that gives you as the consumer The ability to scale it up if you want like if you feel like oh, this is a little easy Then you can pick exercises that are way more difficult. So I think I think you'll find uh, you'll really enjoy it Okay, awesome. Yeah, and I I had a feeling that's what you guys been to say I just kind of needed to hear it because I mean as all of you have referenced and you know Some of you are you're all dads, but newer parents, you know, and I think it's just a mom I've like really put on some strength after having our baby And I'm just like that fear of like losing it all but maps anywhere I think it's shorter in terms of the other ones. It's only four weeks So I think I have to get out of my head that like you're not going to lose all of the strength that you got Like you guys just said it's totally different. So I'm hoping that I will see some benefit from it So I appreciate that yeah in a lot of different directions with this too It'll benefit the whole so when you go back to like traditional weight training You're gonna notice, you know, some of those those things that maybe you weren't stabilizing quite as effectively as you were You know after that program. So there'll be a lot of unintended benefits. You'll see yeah And keep in mind, you know strength is a skill too. So if you stop barbell squatting and barbell deadlifting for four weeks Will your will your strength go down on the specific exercises possibly because you're not practicing the skill anymore But that's okay Because usually what happens when you train differently and especially when you're addressing Parts of the body or or planes of movement You don't normally address Is you might dip a little bit and because of this lack of of practicing a specific skill But then you get back real quick and then you surpass it. So you actually start to break plateaus So, you know, like I said when when the pandemic started we had all these people Following maps anywhere that normally wouldn't follow a program like that just because it's equipment free And the one of the top comments was oh my god, it's so effective and many people now run it Uh any kind of intermittent basis like every three or four months They'll throw it in there because they saw so many benefits. So I think you'll be pleasantly surprised Okay, awesome And then after that would you recommend anabolic again because It again will be something different or would you switch over to hit or something? Totally different after that you can do anabolic again mass performance would be good to hit would be fine I think any program, uh, that's different would be totally fine afterwards Okay, all right, awesome. Yeah, thanks for calling it. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. Awesome. All right Yeah, when we we knew that that would be one of our harder programs to sell Totally and you know the irony is of course we had it and it was the the least popular program specifically because of What she's talking about. Yeah, the feedback was always amazing Then the pandemic hit it became our top selling program took away the gym Yeah, and it's like this is an option. It's a valid option and then you go through it and you realize Oh, wow, man, there's so much benefit to this and I got all these strength gains in different directions It is because it's hard to believe that you could get great results like you can with equipment without equipment But you can So long as the program has to be planned out. Yes Well, I think what you said too is important that she she goes in with the right mindset because what happens sometimes is People hear us say that then she goes back to anabolic and she goes to squat the first day And she's like, oh, shit. I'm down 50 pounds from my previous It's like that's totally okay. That happens What I would predict will happen is she'll see a little bit of a step back on the big movements Like the squat the dead left in overhead press But then by the end of anabolic or whatever program she runs, I bet she hits prs Yeah, I bet she surpasses Where she currently is at right now and and those benefits are going to be attributed from the work that she did in anywhere Hey, if you enjoyed that clip you can find the full episode here or you can find other clips over here And be sure to subscribe