 I don't know the details of what has happened in the background. I mean Winston's obviously made a call and I'm sure he would have had pretty good information before he made that call. But you've also got to look at the natural justice part of this. You can look at it from a different point of view. Somebody just gets fed up or tired with somebody and boots them out for no good reason as well. So there's another side to it that we've got to take into consideration as well.