 Okay, we're live. Hey friends, you're watching behind the scenes divine intimacy radio today. We're gonna be talking with Kathleen Beckman she's most well known as She is the head of administrator of healing deliverance and ecstasy in her diocese in California But she's written a new book that I think all of you are gonna want to know about it's called beautiful holiness It's about blessed conchita. So we'll get to that in a minute, but the first thing I wanted to tell you about Before we jump into the show is the summit this year that we're having in November No, October, I don't have a sheet from me and I can't remember any of these details So the what is the title of the summit blessed beloved spouse? She's we're both we we usually have sheets in front of us And and and this is this is the merry-an-mystery the merry-an-mystery and the triumph of the immaculate heart 13th through the 15th and the October 13th is a special date. Yeah for our lady of Fatima So that is why it starts on that date. Yeah, it's beautiful the lineup of speakers is amazing So you're not gonna want to miss it But we are we've had them up for a while So you're not gonna want to we always end up with a huge wait list. So yeah Yeah, so get out there and get those you can find that as spiritual Direction comm forward slash events. The other one is our Go on I do you want to say it's at the shrine of the most blessed sacrament as is the next thing You're gonna tell people about right which is an amazing place if you've never been there It's it's worth just going to the event to go to the shrine, but what's the next? Well at the same location. Yeah, a beautiful venue is Our divine intimacy in marriage retreat The last one we had over a hundred couples in that incredible venue It was just awesome because they don't it'll hold anyway. Doesn't matter how many it holds Yeah, it's just an extraordinary. Yeah couples from all over the world Adoration prayer it is like nothing else that you've ever been to it is not like your diocesan marriage It is not like your diocesan marriage prep. I'm sorry for all of the diocese, you know, we apologize You're gonna all the business from out here. I know anyway, so it's not like that We didn't go to any marriage retreats in order to write it. We it is not pop psychology It is it came out of place of prayer and our own experience having you know gone through the annulment process and been Married in the church and our own prayer and healing and brokenness and healing and restoration It's called divine intimacy and marriage a scent to oneness and and I will say this We had probably three-fourths of the surveys sent back You know that were turned in that day at the end of the day and out of all of them Only one was less than a ten out of ten Wow, it was only one and it was like just all the and the fruit of it just keeps coming and coming and coming We've ministered to a number of those couples And it's just been an extraordinary gift to watch the Lord work in marriage. He loves your marriage Give him the time Give him the attention give your spouse the gift of coming to this retreat I'll also say in terms of the spectrum of retreat ins The it's for if you have a good marriage and you want to be better Like we had a couple came and the husband when we were done and they're both just amazing, you know devout Catholic people said I have I never Considered how many ways more that I could love you something like that. Yeah, beautiful Well, it was really cute because it was her birthday card and Or no here her Valentine card and he said I've just learned of all these different ways that now I can love you and She laughed because she was like, you know my Valentine's card Sounds a little bit like it's a love affair with the retreat rather than me Because he was gushing about the retreat and everything he had gained from it But they went from good to better or to great from even better and then those that are struggling Yeah, have gained a ton of tools and and hope and restoration in that healing. Yeah We're seeing healings. Yeah, we're seeing people that are coming out of their their guest bedrooms to go back to their master bedrooms Yeah, that we're leaving their husbands and then we're gonna stay. I mean, it's just extra It makes me want to weep every time I read one of these Yeah, and and we had engaged couples that came we had, you know, we had everything three generations in one family Right. We yes people are bringing their their Kids and yeah, they're coming and then they they get it for their adult Children to come to bring their couples, you know the couples to come for healing and we've seen the gamut from 20 year olds All the way until 80 year olds. Yeah, it's a beautiful Work of the Holy Spirit, so I really encourage you to do that check it out at spiritualdirection.com forward slash events awesome, okay All right, let's jump into the show on your market set go This is Anna Stephanie Burke. Welcome to divine Intimacy radio your radio Haven of rest your hermitage of the heart your monastery of the mine where we lift our hearts and minds to heaven to draw upon the wisdom of the saints and we have a very special saint On with us today. I'm sorry Well, I guess she's a saint. She's a saint in the making. She's a saint in my heart. I'm right. Listen. Yeah, I'm she's up there for me I I I wouldn't be surprised if she came and visited and we caught her in the chapel levitating But we're we're we're blessed to have Kathleen Beckman on the show talking about blessed conchita So Stephanie is going to give us a little informal intro Kathleen So Kathleen Beckman is an author evangelist and retreat director She co-founded an Apostolate of intercessory prayer for priests, which is phenomenal. You can find that prayer for priests You can find that find that at foundation for priests org and serves as the administrator of healing deliverance and exorcism in her Diases you can find out more about all of her books all the works that she does at Kathleen Beckman Com and one more thing she wrote an amazing book that is on sale right now for at Sophia Press Called Family Guide to Spiritual Warfare. It's one of our go-tos. We always Carry it with us at all the events that we do so our dear friend Kathleen Beckman welcome. Thank you so much I'm delighted to be with you So the book that you the latest book that you've written I was blessed I don't like I don't know why I got an early copy of the text, but I did and Was really excited to see it coming out because it's it's something that's not Been written on as extensively as I think it would be a blessing and benefit to the church She's dear to my heart like Kathleen introduced me to her Yeah, and it's just really been a love affair that's kind of in the making anything particular that moved you with with her I'm sure Kathleen will bring it out, but the the one particular thing that really Has moved me that keeps coming back Is that she was a very holy? Wife and mother so that's a beautiful how many kids did she have Kathleen nine? She has nine children and so she didn't pray at all right? And and one You know right? One beautiful marriage and and she was devout you know, she was a good mother She was a good wife Completely given over to the service of her family and her vocation is wife and mother and yet she would say my heart belongs to God alone and It's just been very moving to me that she had this very holy I Would say Saint John of the Cross type of detachment from all of the world In a way that her heart was completely given over and in that She was an extraordinary wife and mother, so it's just a beautiful thing to me. I think it's a great Example for all of us. Oh mom, so let's let Kathleen give us a little deeper introduction Tell us a bit about blessed conchita. What is our what should everyone know about her? Well, I think that one of the most intriguing things to me about blessed conchita is actually a word that came from the Vatican and And I want to share that with your listeners The Vatican this really caught my attention was one of the reasons I was even interested in blessed conchita And she is not someone that I had a lifelong devotion to I had heard of her through priests who were deeply moved by her mystical writings on ministerial priesthood There there's a book priests of Christ. That's very popular many clergy that we know and have said that they read it daily and So I was given that about 15 years ago when I had a prayer meeting in a rosary prayer meeting in my home And several priests would attend so the priests really introduced me to her because of her well, she's the mother of a priest, but she has a profound understanding of the the chief priests the eternal high priest and From the Lord she learned and was taught the beauty of The and the expectation of the Lord in the ministerial priesthood So that's one fast set of blessed conchita that attracted me and then I'd read next I came to know her through a Vatican statement in which they said Concepción cabrera de Armeida Pardon my lack of Spanish accent Known as blessed conchita will one day become very important for the entire church So she will one day become very important for the entire church They wrote that statement the congregation for the clergy in a document That inspired the foundation of prayer for priests the the document is titled Eucharistic Adoration for the sanctification of priests and That's where they highlighted blessed conchita as a spiritual mother of priests But they wrote that in 2007 and I really believe and and Stephanie that this is the hour when she is Becoming very important. I think her canonization is eminent. There are over 20 miracles in line that they're examining and so She as a wife and a mother She is a witness really to all states of life a spent for a woman She was a fiance. She was engaged for nine years. She was married for 19 years I mean 17 years She was a widowed for 34 years and by special permission of the pope at the time She died a consecrated woman. Um, and so she lived all the vocations of woman and Because she Lived at a time in Mexico City. She was born in 1862 and died in 1937 So she lived through the mexican revolution. She lived through the christeros war She understood and saw and lived and her diary is filled with writings On the persecution of the church and the persecution of the priesthood And she understood well what the priests were going through in that time And we have all of this historical record because she Wrote a what she called an account of conscience And that account of conscience was really her spiritual diary. She wrote it only for her spiritual director She never intended for it to become public But she is such a prolific writer that her mystical writings outnumbered that of st. Thomas Aquinas This is as a woman who is raising who's married And I mean really involved in a marriage like in her diary what I love She'll say I will understand my husband's business because I want him to value my my opinion I want to know have be somebody that he can share that Business with and so she was very attentive To each, you know vocation as a wife as a mother I think In writing the book and doing the research what touched me what challenged me most is that She challenged me to be much more aware Of the spiritual Life and the soul of my husband and my children and also In the care of the souls of priests So we're with Kathleen Beckman the book is beautiful holiness a spiritual journey with blessed conchita to the heart of jesus Kathleen when when you first started studying her life And first encountered her counter to her What struck you the most About her like what drew you in To want to know her more What drew me in is that she was a witness To holiness in ordinary life in the context of family One of the things that I loved about her was that we we we know that saints Like conchita and the saints that that we know and love and read about they are in love with the lord jesus christ They have been captured completely So he has captured their hearts and their imaginations and they are They are foremost In union with the lord What conchita what distinguishes her I think is that She wanted the lord to She wanted the lord to be loved as much as possible And she understood that she could not love the lord as much as she wanted him to be loved Therefore she decided to make her gift of self To include her family So she prayed lord jesus I cannot love you enough on my own So please give me a big family so that collectively We can love you more Together and so she at this gift of self that she gives to god She's magnifying it by giving the gift of her family wrapping up the whole family and saying together We will love you more lord. So I think that that really captivated me. She was She had a dream. She calls it a dream an experience of jesus when she was six years old And she she from that moment on she said that I thirsted for something very big And she understood that she was the object of god's Heart and love and attention and that he was engaging her and she became completely in love with him I quote in the book the scripture of the widows might because What I love about the widows might is that she's all in she's she's going to give it all away And conchita is simple and even though she was raised in a very wealthy family and understood what it was to go to these dances because it was expected of her because of the the The family that she was in and she would go to dances and wear ball gowns and everything Underneath she would wear a hair shirt. So there's just so many facets to her that are fascinating Fascinating It's a little It's a little overwhelming right and and uh when you consider how extraordinary she was Are you thinking about where can you maybe do you know where she can wear a hair shirt? Where I can get a hair shirt that'll work under all modern clothes, you know I think it was probably a little easier under those big gowns from the the path. Jesus. That's a lot of fabric So um Yeah, so so why so as we're we have about a minute to our break, but Um, why don't we start to talk about why she's relevant for us? Um today, you know, why why this time? Why do you think that she's coming up to the four? Right now because I think that's something very interesting when we consider um this culture of death that that seems to be At a screaming pitch right now. It's always it's always meaningful when saints emerge, right? That's my that's my point It's just extraordinary. Yeah I've just been reading about uh St. Elizabeth of the trinity and she was canonized not too long ago And is emerging in our time. I think to call us back to prayer. So we get back from the break We'll hear from Kathleen Beckman regarding Her great book beautiful holiness a spiritual journey with blessed conchita to the heart of jesus About why it is that conchita the lord is bringing her to the four in our time. So we'll be right back So that was exactly uh 12 30 so Jordan I don't know if you're hearing it but Kathleen's going from low to hot Is it editable? Is is is going to be are we going to be able to post produce it for? Okay, Kathleen. What kind of microphone do you have? I am using the microphone in my um Let me see if I have it on as much as possible Yeah, I'm using my computer Just write out just the computer microphone. Yeah, okay If you could and I don't know what's causing it occasionally it goes from low and then it gets hot Really high. So I'm assuming there's some movement if you could like as you move Could be internet it could be a lot of things but maybe if you're touching your computer Maybe don't do that or or you know move move without without that, but it may not be from you. So Okay, all right. So, uh, let's head back into the show Um Yeah, let's head back into the show, you know, uh, yeah, let's do that on your mark Get set go. This is danis. Stephanie Burke. Welcome back to divine intimacy radio We're talking with our friend Kathleen Beckman whenever Kathleen speaks everyone should listen. I'm taking fervent notes Are you? Yeah, I saw that I've never seen Yeah, I'm like, you know, but you know what also moves me what so she um, what was it here? She was What was it about? Oh that the Vatican wrote about her one day Uh, she will become very important for the church and that was in 2007 That was the year that you were you and I were married 7 7 of 07 because I you know, I don't know 7s to me Dates they become very important and I see them everywhere The letter the number 7 is everywhere for me. So anytime it comes up like it's like, you know, because we didn't plan that And um, I'm just I'm just noting the uniqueness of her Um, this idea that she's touched every part of the vocation that you can except for the Except for being a priest because she was she was a consecrated woman. She was married. She was engaged You know, she was single all these wonderful things. So I just I'm just very intrigued by her so So Dan mentioned Before we went on a break about how priests how priests how saints come up They're brought to the fore at a time when they're needed, you know, the Lord's in everything all things are grace And that elizabeth of the trinity was recently Brought to sainthood, you know for the sake of a renewal of prayer Um, so what about conchita? Why is she relevant? Why is the Lord bringing her to the fore? right now I think she is a witness to the universal call to holiness And you know the title beautiful holiness a lot of people think that I'm referring to conchita, but I'm really Referring to the Lord's beautiful holiness because we can only magnify The holiness and beauty of the Lord and he's the beautiful one and holiness is Attractive and I think that her witness is to the universal call to holiness in all vocations And I think because she was a wife and a mother and a grandmother and widow And here she the fruitfulness of all those vocations, you know, you always want to measure the the Your prayer life your relationship with the Lord your service by fruitfulness because fruitfulness is important to God, right? He wants Good fruit and that's how we know that this is an anointed work or that God's hand is upon you He'll bring forth fruitfulness. Well, here is a Wife and a mother living an ordinary life in san lui patisi, which is about 250 miles south of mexico city And what is she doing? Well, she is She's sanctifying helping to sanctify and care for the souls of her loved ones But she goes far beyond that she's involved in the community She wants to have everything that's happening to her inside of her all these mystical graces She receives locutions visions She's running it by her spiritual director She had always had a pre spiritual director some of whom were bishops One of her speech her spiritual directors was archbishop louise martinez. Oh, yeah Author of the sanctifier my favorite book on the holy spirit the sanctifier So three of her spiritual directors have their cause open For canonization. Wow Three of her spiritual director. So she never she made her first spiritual exercises In uh when she was about 30 years old And so and she made them every single year and so she relied completely on The priest who formed her because she didn't have Formal education never took theology But the lord began to speak to her and teach her and she immediately ran to the church So she's a daughter of the church, you know, she teaches us so much First of all that we're all called to holiness In an ordinary way in our ordinary life Married mother widow. We're all called to holiness and holiness is beautiful. It's attractive And that's the source of our joy with that intimacy you your apostle It does this so well, you know in in attracting people to the interior life And so I approach her in the book as A spiritual mother as a spiritual guide for the souls because she will take you through The various stages of the interior life in a very Simple way with great purity of heart. I think if there's time I want to just share like A little bit of her mystical writings just so you see the depth of them Can I share just a Prayers that will give a flavor of her mystical writings Jesus I want to empty we want to empty our life into you We want to be able to pour all our tenderness into your heart We want to be consumed by its fire as a holocaust of love for you We will no longer hesitate to make any sacrifice Give us a lord that union with you that we so desire Give us a love for you that is so pure So holy so devoid of self-love So full of charity toward our neighbor and so much your own That we will only concern ourselves with pleasing you and consoling you amen A simple but beautiful prayer. So her mystical writings are beautiful and to completely Answer your your question Stephanie and Dan, I think that A hallmark of blessed conchita's spirituality is the cross She had two mystical highlights of her life and one was the vision of the cross And I think that in today's world We have to look and get back to the cross even either saini the stein said at the time when she was just before she was going to be Uh go to Auschwitz. She said I believe that today There is a call to women to stand with mary at the foot of the cross I think conchita is an echo of that that we're called to the cross and so she embraces the cross and There's a whole chapter on her vision of the cross And so her spirituality could be summed up in love crucified You know, you know what strikes me about that as you're connecting her with that with that quote from edis stein is that sin came through a woman and You know the rid the first eve and then we have the new eve who restores all things and I heard you know that the lord restored Eve through her And brought our savior, you know brought Who is our you know, media tricks of all grace and and it's just fascinating to me And I and I've often wondered The attack on women is so extreme if you look out in the media and watch what's happening Um, I mean there's darkness everywhere, but boy, there sure is an attack on women women and their Their fertility their womb their motherhood their femininity all of that is just a constant There's just a constant then chipping away at that to try to destroy it Right, and I just think that that femininity truly restored Femininity femininity truly restored in our lady and in our lord Um, it brings forth so much life It's it's just so needed Absolutely. I I agree with you completely. I think she is and I say this in the in my preface for the book that she is She's an antidote to any kind of spiritual mediocrity and to the culture of the world She is saying no, let's look at god's plan for marriage and family and look at the fruitfulness that is there And she was known for her joy. I mean she she wrote her own jokes and had a joke book So her home is open. I love that about her She would people would like to come to her home And she was known to have a good cook and she wrote a cookbook And it's in the museum where she so they loved to come to her home So she had this gift of hospitality and her children who were interviewed for you know by the Vatican officials were Were telling them that you know people would come to to the house here and mom would be so lively and in in talking with them and and she had this joke book and She would cook for them and she would really get to the point of caring for their souls And so she had this wisdom that I think really she's a She's a prophetic word of god. This is what the what her The investigators said she's a prophetic word of god for this day and time And I think the reason for that is that her mysticism is decidedly Marian You know, I kept trying when I'm not an expert in conchita But I had an expert with me in writing the book father Domenico who hurt for many years was in Rome and in charge of her cause And so I had to sit at his feet for over two years. He happened to be stationed 10 minutes from my home at the diocesan house of prayer for wow And you know now he's been called to go Moved because he's in the order that that conchita founded She founded an order for priests and order for nuns And three orders for lay people a lay woman. Yeah Yeah, supposedly in a time when uh women were completely suppressed and had no rights and All of that but what it shows is when a woman is holy, we also see this in Teresa of Avila in particular when a woman is holy There are no barriers to god using her Regardless of the cultural deficiencies I just want to repeat that she founded an order for priests an order for women and three lay orders Isn't that crazy? Wow and and had nine kids As we end this show now before we end I want to tell folks We're going to have a second show if you want to pop out to spiritualdirection.com YouTube page and all of these interviews can be found there, of course on eWTN And this would be on eWTN radio. We're grateful for eWTN and eWTN radio But um, I want to ask you about There's so many women young women that listen to the show and that are we have in relationship And so many find it hard to pray Um, this woman had nine children and accomplished all of this And was holy enough to be become uh, essentially the church has Declared her a saint and her being a blessed in terms of her holiness. It's just a matter of the formal steps Um, uh for canonization, but What is she what is her message to young women about the possibility Of having a deep life of prayer and being prayerful when you have a bunch of little ones turning around Well While she was uh engaged and at the in fact at the reception of her wedding She by that time had fallen in love with the lord and the Eucharist And so she asked her husband To please allow her to receive holy communion to go to the blessed sacrament Every day And to not become jealous Of god and that promise was kept by her husband. Wow. There you go So there so there every day in fact, she said there were times when her husband What uh, whom she called poncho. She said he would He would notice, you know, her behavior in the home and and then encourage her Why don't you go make a visit to the blessed sacrament? So we understand that, you know, but she she made visits to the blessed sacrament You know communion at the time was not daily mass wasn't always available to her But she would find the tabernacle. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Well, um, so we Until next time, sorry about that. That'll have to be edited until next time May the god of peace make you perfect in holiness May he preserve you whole and entire spirit soul and body Irreproachable at the coming of our lord, jesus christ. Amen. Amen. So folks if you want to catch us On uh continuation of this conversation with kathleen Both shows will end up on dwtn radio, but and also on spiritualdirection.com And uh on our youtube and rumble pages, but if you'd like to catch the conversation live We'll be jumping out over to spiritualdirection.com and live streaming over there And so we'll see you soon Maggie sent you a new link link kathleen. Just good. Take stuff out and come back in. Okay. We'll do