 So I was just having a chat with Carter, first top 10 in a national road series race last weekend, finished 6th and he said he's changed something, something that helped him get his top 10. Carter what was that? So I'm at a Mara Cycles cafe again and today we're meeting with an up-and-comer in the Australian road cycling scene. He was recently published in Bicycling Australia magazine and in that magazine they said this guy could be a household name in years to come. His name's Carter Turnbull, he's currently the Oceana road race under 19 champion. Earlier this year in under 19 Australian men's national titles he came third and he's currently preparing to tackle the world wearing Australian colours in a few weeks time. This video I wanted to share with you who Carter Turnbull is, how he blends in all this road cycling with doing year 12 and also he's a pretty good road cyclist so I think he's got some good tips and insights he can share, not only from a training perspective but also race tactics. Here he comes now. How are you mate? Good thanks, how are you? Not too bad. Now you're right to go for a little ride? Yeah, yeah. Take a close to it. Now I know we both have the same coach, David Stewart from the Hurt Box, but you know I'm not as good a cyclist as you so can we go for a cruise today or? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Last weekend finished 6th. Time drops a wheel in front of you. Yeah right, so just mentality, you don't really care what's going on around you. Yeah, you focus on your own race. Simple as that. So mate before we get going can you tell me how you're doing year 12? How do you fit school and riding in the national road series and oceanas and preparing for welds? How do you fit it all in? So I'm quite lucky. Having done two year trial subjects last year I've only got four. You weren't wagging school today then? No. Okay then. No so I've got quite a good timetable. I have a full day on Mondays but they're normally rest or recovery so it's not too bad. Tuesday I have a first and last period so I can actually go home in the middle and do my training and then Wednesdays I finish at 11 so I can fit in four hour ride or something like that, which is quite good. Thursdays is the same as Tuesday and then Friday so I finish at 10 so I can do a few hours then as well. And you work with the Stegels, Stegenstern from the head box? Yeah, here it's a program so I haven't had too much of an issue so obviously the training's been good but it's sort of been just at that level where it's not too fatiguing so I can keep going so I haven't had an issue with it. So when I started riding I started riding with the Camponeros once they started. So who are the Camponeros? That was started by Paul Palavit and just his son Callum who's on Inform now. A few friends of his and that sort of thing. So like a junior developer? Yeah just set up a team, a bit of fun, mates to ride around and just with riding met Cam McKim and the Inform guys and sort of joined for net last year. You must have a few results though in order to get picked up? Not me particularly it's mainly the older guys so I sort of just got pushed along which is quite nice. You must have a chance of potential though in some of the races? Yeah I think everyone was sort of holding their weight to a certain extent so they weren't taking anyone who they didn't want on the team which worked well and then with that start off last year some good form, good results on my belt and then end up riding for Inform to Natalie halfway through the year doing NRS. It's the first year 19 and continue that through to this year. So how did you find your first half a year in the national road series? Yeah it was good fun, good experience, the biggest bunch I've ever read in close roads, done a few races like that but not with a bunch is actually taking up the whole road so that was there's a lot of learning and yeah trying to find my way in those races in the fields and well this obviously the strength has come up ability in riding but the biggest change is just how you ride it being at the front making sure that you're where you need to be and if you're good enough the other riders sort of get to know that and they know you're not going to stuff up, not going to drop the wheel so they're more inclined to give you the wheel you want and that sort of thing so it makes it easier once you sort of get established at the level I found recently. And that gives you full confidence? Yeah and then bridging out a top 10 didn't you? Yeah once you start getting results you get more confidence and you get more and more so past three races I've done first one was the best one I've had there and topped at the following race and then I've topped it again so I really enjoy it everyone's committed to the team plan and whatever our goal is that day everyone's happy to give their part and help out so the selection events this year was just the national championships and Oceania championships and I ran fourth in both the time trials third in the national road race and I won Oceania road race which that was actually the last event of all four of them. Yeah okay and just before you keep going can you explain the difference between the nationals and the Oceanans like the road race what's the difference there? So nationals is just Australian riders and I'll see the winners national champ for the year so that's sort of quite a good one to win obviously it's a nice title and then Oceania's as normally just Australia and New Zealand I can't actually tell you what other countries are involved but maybe Fiji and something like that yeah there's always a couple in the elite so yeah okay yes so that's a bit more prestigious um I don't I wouldn't say so definitely not in the elite the pros don't normally turn out for it sometimes you get a few not as many as the nationals also the timing it's during the european season so they don't normally come back to Australia for one race under 19s it's probably pretty similar I'd say you do have more riders so you could argue it's a harder race to win but then again there's it's pretty even I'd say yeah so and by winning that that give you your ticket to the world's or did coming third at nationals give you a ticket or a bit of it would be a bit of both I didn't see the criteria before Oceania's it actually said you had to have a winning one of those events so had I not won that race in theory I wouldn't have been selected so there's actually a fair bit of pressure to win that so I wanted obviously I wanted the selection yeah so I don't know if it helped out not knowing that I had to win yeah um but yeah I guess first and third take three people it's hard to get turned down after that so it actually works quite well because every two weeks there's another NRS race right up in two worlds right so side off with battle on the border race that two weeks later had to have great south coast two weeks later to have King Valley just last weekend yeah next weekend dirty there yeah all those conditions later on the gravel um I enjoy that sort of stuff so it was meant to actually be dry for the gravel and about five minutes out and rain starts coming down and the first section was quite slippery yeah so yeah also not the best way to wear white socks but or a white kid yeah got some good photos we'll put up yeah good race and so yeah NRS every couple of weeks so what's the training you're doing between all that so I'm using those events a lot for the high intensity work which is working quite well and then so I only have to fit in one or two sessions each week in between yeah um and the rest is just recovery so it's one of those one or two sessions look like you don't sort of base or you don't um either in the Danny gnomes doing either riding up climbs that threshold with high intensity for a couple of us at the top or one or two minutes on five off that sort of thing or the odd goes in there as well which is never fun but yeah yeah I'm I feel good once they're completed yeah what sort of ago sessions you do like a day how long do they go for and anywhere about an hour and a half so anywhere from hour to two hours really right high intensity yeah so what about like give us an example of a high intensity ergo um one of sex's favorites cause it's a two person break okay it's one minute on one minute off times nine there's three sets of that there's four minutes between each set so if you count in the one minute off at the end sort of five minutes but yeah by the time yeah by the time you get to the third set he's still nine minutes to go that's a long time but um so I don't have much of a screen on me so I have to go off the front at some point to get a win so I won't win a bunch kick if I ride it well like I did Oceania so I can win a reduced bunch sprint that was out of two people but I wouldn't I come to the finish with someone I'm not counting myself out but definitely want to get rid of the real fast guys so yeah need to attack at some point what does the world's course look like how long does it go for it so it's 132 ks I think so it's and with a bit over 2,000 meters climbing it's been quite hilly yeah and then once we're on the circuits there's another climb 8 ks 8 percent we do that twice yeah so yeah there's a few climbs that's it of course I'd say so yeah yeah I'm definitely better going uphill than anything else so okay next year I'd like to just progress a bit further similar to what I've done this year it'll be first year 23 so won't be expecting the age group race results that I've got this year but in the nrs and those races looking to try improve on what I've already done and see where that leads to the future years hopefully eventually into the world tour ranks and so Carter's got a little bit more training to do he's off for a ride mate how do you find the um look at these cars to so said every time I pull out the camera there's buses and cars now there's a human walking past how do you find the um the s works time back to ride ah it's a nice bike just put down power and it just wants to go so it doesn't hold you back it's good I feel and on the flat so thanks for your time really appreciate it good luck we're rooting for you in a few weeks time and uh forward to seeing what happens so just a small question for those who have stuck around at the end of the video I want to do more of these style videos I want to call the series let's go for a ride where I go for a ride with cycling personalities and people like Carter and just have a chat have a coffee at Omaris and they share some insights about road cycling things that you might find insightful so if you're up for that let me know in the comment section below and I'll catch you in the next video