 You can't get rid of the stress But there are probably things that you can do to make your life So that you can process the stress a little better going outside and get sunshine Might just be mostly placebo just like we talked about you know gotta go do it ice in your joints or getting in the Hot tub or the pool or the sauna or whatever who knows that actually works, but just makes you feel a little bit better You're listening to barbell logic brought to you by barbell logic online coaching Where each week we take a systematic walk through strength training and the refining power of voluntary hardship Welcome to the barbell logic podcast. I am Scott Hambrick and over there is Matt Reynolds he is recuperating from the kung-fu and Today I wanted to talk a little bit about stress Because here's what I've noticed man. We didn't do any show prep because you know, we don't do show prep Right, but all of my online clients except for really two of them are Struggling right now. Okay, and me personally in my training. I've been struggling. I'm seeing a lot of detraining Seeing a lot of missteps I'm getting a lot of I'm getting a lot of messages from my folks that are Well, they're reaching out man And a lot of I've got I got a few female clients who in a lot of ways my female clients are my best clients Those are very coachable. Yes opinion, right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean My female clients I say hey listen I need you to do four sets of four at this weight Tomorrow and they just do them and the guys are like, why did you change the four fours instead of this? And I thought that we might and then I thought that and then it's like well, you know I don't care what you thought But the ladies just do their stuff and they also communicate better and I had a couple of ladies that Frankly broke down in tears after their workouts today And I and I talked to them on the phone and send them these videos and stuff but You know my my two really hard-working ladies. I'm really proud of it's it's Tracy and Sonya if you guys listen I'm super proud of you and you're hard-working And my guys that are detraining I mean I get to watch all of these people in and I know I know that they're just under an enormous amount of stress You would think that working from home Right get getting to work from home not having to commute Having your life simplified in the way that has happened to everybody over these last couple of weeks because of this because of this panic You would think that that would help the training But I'm not seeing that it's helping people's training now me neither They're just carrying around a lot of anxiety a lot of stress to worried about their loved ones You know, I've got a client who's Spouse is is a little bit older and diabetic. I know they're really worried that you know if they if the spouse gets the Gets any complications Maybe he's a compromise. He's compromised. Maybe he couldn't make it You know got some clients that have a number of children. You know what they don't You know a kid that was Had RSV when they're a child run a respirator for a time and still got a little bit of a compromise their Pulmonary system, you know, they're worried about these things And it's just it's just Everybody's getting their ass kicked. Sure. Yep and We've got a little bit of a bullhorn here and we can broadcast to a number of people and I want you to know You're probably getting your ass kicked their listener and so is everybody else the training's probably harder feel It doesn't feel good. It's probably harder than it has been in the past Making the gains is harder than it has been for you in the past and you ain't alone in that Stress is stress your body can't tell Where it's coming from or what the nature of it is, you know, that's right We've talked about this a lot, you know with people who deal with life stress. Yeah, we obviously we've never talked about what happens if there's like a Massive a massive epidemic. We've never said that but we we often talk about, you know, well You get to fight with your spouse. You get a divorce. You get you lose your job There's a tragedy with a family member like that stuff affects your training incredibly and right now Everybody is going through Very very high levels of stress you think about really what it comes down to if you look at that stress scale I've talked to Pewter about this is it's life change, right? When you have a massive life change of stress with good or bad You buy a new house. You're excited about the house. I remember when I bought the house a year ago Super stressful. Well, how whose life hasn't changed the last three weeks Everybody's life is different. Yeah, and so there's a tremendous amount of stress and like you said your body doesn't really know the difference So it's it's dealing with all this non productive non-gym stress Then you go and try to get your workouts in maybe you got a home gym Maybe you don't maybe you're doing body weight stuff at home. Maybe you're flinging a kettlebell around and your body's like, uh-huh I don't like this Cuz it's hurting and struggling 23 other hours a day outside the gym. Yeah, people are worried about what's gonna happen You know, when do they get back to work? Do they get back to work? Sure? etc etc and So anyway, that's happening to everybody and that does not have a good effect on your training That's gonna make training more difficult than it would be otherwise So I don't need to beat that anymore. But what what the heck do you do if that's the case for you? What do you do and I don't want anybody to detrain and I want them to can still make improvement if they can and I always try to do the minimum effective thing and In most of the time if you're someone who's out of LP and you're having these sort of problems that we're describing here I am finding that I can lengthen them their cycle. They can go from one week to two weeks And that that makes each individual work out a little Little less stressful But it lets them accrue more stress between PR attempts and they can still move on and And they're doing enough work and I could keep the intensity up enough that they don't detrain so In general that has been the thing that I've been doing for my people that are under a great deal of stress and That's that seems to work. Yeah, you know, you said you've used that term detraining a couple times And I think you would agree with this. We've said this before on the podcast You're either getting better or getting worse. Yep, and the reality is is that most people right now today are getting a little bit worse Yep, and so I just want to be Clear with people. It's actually okay To detrain a little bit. What's your choice? Yeah, you know, most people don't have a choice, right? And so but what we're trying to do is we're actually trying to slow that detraining down Yep, and what's not okay is to do nothing, right is to just go man. I'm so depressed I'm just gonna read all the news outlets and I'm gonna be on Twitter all the time And I'm just gonna be like depressed. Yep, and sit and sit around do nothing and eat shit And that's not okay. And so while some of you don't have access to the equipment you normally have access to or Maybe you do and the stresses are just enough that the weight is just heavy It's okay to take weight off of the bar a little bit at a time but what's not okay is to not not do anything and So you don't have an excuse To not do anything even if you're one of those people I think Scott and I are gonna do a I think on Thursday We'll do a Q&A about training from home and and all of those sort of intricacies and for people who don't have Equipment, but even if you don't have equipment there are things you can do. I know I've told this story before Our our good friend father floater who by the way they are in complete Total quarantine inside that seminary like they've shut the doors and locked them You can't get in or out at the seminary sounds awesome. Yeah, it's awesome And so he's like day six. Nobody's sick, right since they've locked the doors They're six days in they've been kind of general quarantine like most of the world but I mean they're you're not getting in or out nobody and so He went on a mission trip to Venezuela. I don't know if you've heard of Venezuela but it is not a healthy economic country and he went there for three months about a year ago now somewhere in that ballpark and All he could do is body weight stuff We did you know we did air squats and push-ups and he found a beam and a you know barn to do chin-ups and pull-ups on He did some sprints and he lost 20 30 pounds while he was there because there's no food in Venezuela But he came back and he we put him on an LP and he set massive PRs across the board He was in great shape his work capacity was high all of those things were there. He did what he could right It's no barbells in Venezuela. There's no gyms and this is kind of the same thing right now for a lot of you guys You just you got to do what you got to do For me man when I've done active stuff even stuff, you know, everybody knows I've been sick Just getting out and walking around my neighborhood outside getting some fresh air walking my wife Get my heart rate going. I went out worked in the yard for like three or four hours Two days ago. It's beautiful outside. God. I felt good the son of my but I mean really you did stuff You don't think about normally like a yard work It was a pleasure to do yard work the other day right son was at my back, you know, it's just So how are you guys handling? Oh, we're fine Don't feel the stress at all. No, I won't I won't say that I mean you got you had kind of elderly parents and right. Well, yeah, you know, I was talking about I was talking to mom the other day and I said things couldn't get real bad, you know economically. She's like, yeah, I do too And I said you're ready to play in the garden and start canning again and she said I'll go out like I came in And I said how's that she said hungry and mad. I was like, what does that mean? Well, you know when she was she was You know, they were they were desperately poor sure when she was when when she was a kid And we we bought all this game to do it again gardens. Mm-hmm This is my composter. No, I got a composter. Yeah, so I'm gonna drive up there And shit in that composter and drive back home in the middle of night It would be like you I'd be like why I just can't get the So it's a little fruity smelling in here. I can't figure out what's going on. He's a little more dry Yeah, I've done some Instagram lives where I've talked to people about what I think The economic consequences of all this thing are going to be and I don't find any of that to be any fun but you know, we've You know over here, we're kind of financial preppers if nothing else and I think if anybody's gonna be okay We will be but it's still no fun. I read that everybody's really pretty healthy, too And I don't I don't see us really having While while somebody might get ill. I don't think it's gonna put anybody in the ground That's close to us anyway, but it's it's no fun. You know, it's no what no fun watching your community and your state and your country Do as poorly as it's doing right now and so, you know, we're we're getting some stress in those ways, but What are you gonna do? Like I said, I put myself among those that were detraining When I when I open the show, you know, so I've been detraining. I think man, I didn't go get tested like you I didn't get as sick as you but we're finding out now like the National Health Service in in the UK Said that they believe that about 40 to 50 percent of the people in the country had already had it but were didn't have They did not need to be hospitalized. Yeah, they were low low symptom or asymptomatic. Yeah, I Felt like dog squeeze for about six weeks and was pretty sick for about a week It wasn't the flu. It wasn't anything else. I've ever had I I might have had it. I don't know but I I Dampshur didn't feel very good for a while and a detrained quite a bit and training has been This is you know, if you've been if you've been pulling in the fives and now you got to go pull 335 and that's heavy That's a zero fun. Yep You're like, I'm gonna have to struggle through all of this crap again to get to 80% of where I was you know yuck, you know That's really frustrating situation. But you know, what are you gonna do? Right? Yeah, yeah, you go You go do your stuff anyway. Yeah, I've been in those situations before I've talked about this where I you know There's been times in my life when I played golf or or I used to be a basketball was my sport in high school I love basketball or but whatever it is, right? I grew up with ping-pong tables, you know, good good ping-pong player. There there's It's far worse to get great or good at something and then not do it for a while and come back and be crappy again Like you're a beginner right then to start it for the first time would be a beginner because you just you don't have any Expectations there's something weird about picking up 315 a 315 deadlift and be like, oh man This is heavy. Like how could this possibly be heavy? Yeah, this is 40% of my all-time PR. Yeah, I'm just like 240 pounds more a run out. That's just gonna be actually heavier than this damn. Yeah, you know, yeah, but But I've been feeling a little better and as a result The weights are just moving right right up and I pulled, you know, 360 or something like that with no belt It didn't feel heavy at all. But when I first got kind of got back on the horse boy, it was all heavy It was all heavy and it was all bad but I don't know do we don't talk about Well, the economic situation make it about what's the economic situation. Well, I don't here's the thing I know that our listeners feel I mean the point of this podcast they feel the stress They feel we don't I don't know that we have to paint the bleak picture because I think most of them get it Hopefully our listeners are little little little higher on the IQ scale and probably a little more with it on on known What's what's factual and what's not except the ones that email me about some things? Well, I happen sometimes But the question is for our listeners who are feeling this thing You know, I've had several AMAs with our with our staff And our and our clients both where I just basically does zoom call and just like hey If you want to talk to me and ask me any questions about anything about training about business about anything You can do it. Now people are so people are so socially starved. They I think they just love yeah, man I can talk to somebody and so the question is for these people and by the way, I have been surprised by the reaction of some people at how how scared they are man, I we've had some staff that That you know, they work from home and and they do just fine when we're online coaching business It's going it's going just fine And and they're scared. I mean they're just worried about everything worried about their families, you know, maybe not in the same city they're in or Just whatever it is. They're worried about family. They're worried about their in everything and so The question is practically for our listeners who are at home struggling with this stuff. What do they do? To deal with the stress. What do they do to deal with the stress? What ain't a very good show if there's no practical, you know I don't think there is anything practical, you know, everybody says, oh Go exercise go outside and walk. It takes some fresh air You know, yeah, do do all that stuff all that stuff that people tell you do it But the truth of it is fuck the stressful damn time, you know, what's not gonna end the stress I guess you know, it's not you can't get rid of the stress But there are probably things that you can do to make your life So that you can process the stress a little better Like there are there are real moves you can make and I think that's where some of that stuff comes in And I think maybe some of that stuff like going outside and getting sunshine Might just be mostly placebo just like we talked about you know gotta go do it You know ice in your joints or getting in the hot tub or the pool or the sauna or whatever Who knows if that actually works, but just makes you feel a little bit better And so I think part of that is is, you know, we talked I talked on the podcast Sunday about just like I think doing things Like you want to you want to have a sense of normalcy as much as you can in the midst of chaos, right? Like it's chaotic and we nobody can be normal But but if you eat relatively the same foods and you train it basically the same time and you wake up at the same time And you go to bed about the same time. Those are things that are in your control You can do those things right now. You might be You know nervous and anxious and you might be reading the news outlets and and all the things like you know When am I getting that check or what's going on or what's the bailout look like or how many people are getting laid off or by the way So maybe you shouldn't read that, but you know, well, maybe you shouldn't But I think for some people you need to allow yourself that little bit of time every day to be able to do that But you can't do it all day all day is that's a pervasive cancer in you And so, you know, we've talked before about the dichotomy between discipline and motivation And we've talked about you why knuckle discipline doesn't work long term No, you've got to be motivated to do it But I do think this is one of those times when there is still some Reason to have some white knuckle discipline like listen, I'm just like everybody else. I'm a workaholic I love to work. You've talked about it before I got this, you know, this Protestant work ethic thing going on I don't really want to work right now. I don't want breakdown videos. I don't want to program I don't want to answer emails. I don't do anything. I just want honestly I just want to read Twitter and the news outlets and see what's going on. But There's some white knuckle discipline that occurs. I'm still getting up early. I'm still trying to maintain the same schedule I'm doing my stuff early in the morning and there's freedom in that for me because then when it's over I'm like, okay, I don't have that hanging over me anymore. That's not a stress in my life And so I think for a lot of us it's just a way to maintain some level of control In the middle of an extremely chaotic environment right now, which is what we're what we're in Yeah, if there's anything, you know, maintaining the made-up work normalcy You know and keep keeping those good habits and you know taking that walk or whatever all those things, you know You need to do them But I I just think I think everybody's just going to have to go through all those stages of grief Because stuff is fixing to be different The old way is gone. There's a new way coming and we're just going to have to just grieve that old way and get used to What's the new way whatever that's going to be and um and You know find a new way a new way of being and move on Good times. Do you think do you think that there will be a time like I certainly think that I think we talked about this on the podcast last week that A lot of these changes really if you look at it Uh for humanity are probably not bad Right the more time at home More more cooking at home with your family more time with your family You know less electronics more reading books more like it's kind of a it's kind of reverted back to the olden days And and right now because life is so different. It's very stressful. The question is when that becomes normal Is it better? Is there certainly there parts of it? I think that are better How many people are going to work from home and realize they don't never have to go back to work again There's no reason to work from an office How many people are going to train at their house and decide I don't need to go to a gym anymore Like training at my house is way better Right, how many people spend too much time just wasting time on things Who have now had more time at home to just read and get better at something Um, I don't know how ogb's doing art. It's interesting the academy at barba logic is Going strong getting signed up because people are like i'll learn right now I might not be able to train as hard, but i'm willing to learn So i'm interested when that world becomes normal How much of it changes in the future after they lift all these Quarantines and the the shelter in places how many people go, you know There's some parts of life. I don't want to leave behind I kind of like to continue to work from home spend more time with my family read more books train at my house I hope there are some benefits that come out of this for sure I think there I think there certainly will be but it's gonna A lot of people's lives are 100 aligned around The old way and uh, that's gonna be gone and I think there are a lot of them. We're gonna flounder I was funny is that you you called the old way. What is always been talked about is the new way Now the new way is the old way right and the old old way Is back to normal. I mean really like that, you know, you've kind of you kind of live your life Like it's the 1950s and everybody else like scott. You're crazy now everybody's living their life like it's 1950s. Maybe it's maybe You know a lot of people I My home group my home book group met last night on zoom right and uh I love all those guys. They're all a bunch of good guys and they're all working from home and and I was thinking You know, I don't know how many millions of people across the united states are quote unquote working from home and You know at some point real materials had to be moved around in the real world like things have to actually happen in the concrete somehow and uh Man, oh man, there's gonna be a lot of jobs that just You know, like you said a lot of people are gonna say gosh, I don't have to go in You know, why why do I why am I expected to go in when I've done it from home? There's gonna be a lot of employers are like, you know what the shit still went out the door and uh 80% of this office staff is out of here. That's right. Yeah Yeah, I mean it there's gonna be an enormous reshuffling Uh, I think a third of businesses under with under 50 employees won't won't be here in may next year. Yeah I mean, it's it's gonna be a commercial real estate. Oh You know It's screwed in a million ways. It's screwed in a million ways, you know, uh, they're they're class b renters can't pay the rent Right, so they're gonna be in a cashflow crunch and then uh, and then it's all the wrong space You know, it's all office and cubicles and a lot of those office people are never coming back So it's all misallocated. Right. So industrial space is hot, but the office space are Maybe it's hot. It's gonna be a better shot. I think then um, sure The malls and office. I was thinking about that the other day we drove I don't know if you guys are driven around Tulsa any we've driven around a couple times Springfield just stayed in the car just to kind of see what it's like That we drove down to the really like the retail center of springfield like big mall and all the restaurants It's dead. So you know what it's like? It's like christmas morning. It's like driving around on christmas at 10 a.m When everything's closed with the chinese restaurants So i'll tell you what i tell you this that it's crazy. Nobody's in the drive-thrus. Yeah drive-thrus are all open Nobody's in them so weird so weird So weird. Oh, baby It's coming Uh, so I didn't want to do this show to make everybody more stressed But let's make it less stressed But you know, things things are stressful and I think when you train you need to acknowledge it and be kind to yourself Makes a programming changes to Make a room for that stress You know, I haven't gotten any emails about those two med shows that I did which either means I explained it perfectly And there are no questions or we're so goddamn confusing that nobody knows what I was talking about Um But you can listen to that and hear about how we talk about you know, if somebody has too much stress And they're not able to recover, you know Some of the things that you might do with the training to to make to make room for more For more stress in the training regimen. You know, that's the kind of stuff you need to lengthen lengthening the cycle Finding variants that are less stressful, but to let you put weight on the bar all those kinds of things Is that what you got to be doing and uh Don't kick the can Meaning if you think there's going to be you're going to have trouble Making this payment or that payment in the future or that you know, you see potential troubles on the horizon Don't wait till they crush you Uh, yeah, let's let's take some action. Let's be people of action and do what we can about those things now if that means, uh Even though you're under lockdown selling the new xbox and everything that you can and uh Selling that car that you got the note on and trying to you know, shuck off some of that debt then, you know, do it Even if we can't fix all the problems taking action Directed towards fixing the problems sure seems to make me feel better Uh, you know, it gives us some agency it makes us feel like we have some control and and you know, and you can And you can shore up your position a little bit. So if you see trouble coming, you know Don't just sit on your ass and wait for it to wash over you like a tidal wave Do something about it and see if you can get ahead of it Um, yeah, it reminds me you tell them that reminds me of like when Katrina hit, you know Katrina's coming and everybody knows it's coming And the whole world tells new orleans like hey Time time for action right time to get out time to move time And the number of people who just sat there and said no, I'm just gonna let it wash over me literally wash And that's literally what they did. Yeah, and uh, this is really kind of the same thing It's it's uh, it's like a tidal wave and we can kind of see what's coming By the way, I almost said this I don't want you to just could send you off on a on a massive tangent Which I don't really want to do but I I read, you know the because of the stimulus that's coming in the Stop markets rebounded a little bit and I read an article. I think it wasn't from the wall street Journal might have been new york times I can't remember because I'm reading a bunch of stuff right now But it said we're we're out of the bear market back into bull market. I was like, does it feel like a bull market? 3.5 million people out of out of work in just in the united states Isn't that stupid and I understand they're just using the metrics But I don't come on How much has it have you ever felt this and been like, yes feels like a bull market feels like yep feels feels good That's crazy. Do you want to talk about that? I don't know. I don't want to scare people, you know, I just but I don't think I don't know everybody's grown up You know, I've been through a couple of these you've been through a couple of these september 2001 you remember that I do And uh, I think economy is in pretty the economy. I want to say the economy But I don't think there's any such thing as the economy. It's just something that people throw around There wasn't a lot of debt out there interest rates seem to be kind of where they ought to have been a little healthier place And they are now and I think the underpinnings of You know business activity were a little healthier at that time, but it was a big shock You know they shut down all the air travel for a time shut the stock market down for a time I remember we paid $11 for diesel fuel for a couple days Wow, right around that time and and uh Uh, a lot of things changed, you know, we did a lot of deliveries Back then And you used to be able to just run in somebody's office and Throw a delivery on their desk and they'd sign and you just walk out Well, then everybody had security and you had to get a badge you had to sign in and like tripled the amount of time It took us to do everything And that was in september of 2001. It was september 11th. I don't know if you guys know that date It's true And then the stock market bottomed out actually in march of 2002 So it took a number of months for that all to roll out Yep, and uh, then what then in 2008, uh, bear sterns and schirsten lemond brothers went away And uh, there was there were some bank banking crises lots of mortgage debt and uh Crazy leveraging and you know bad bad economic underpinnings bad economic underpinnings and It was a big shock in 2000 in 2008 in september The stock market continued to leg down until march Here we go again Of 2009 and the s.p. 500 Bellied out at 57 down Yep So those are two very different crises for two different very different reasons. I think this one has Both conditions It's a social shock Uh, whereas businesses were shut down for a couple of days or in the airline industry may be a little longer than that in 2001 businesses have been shut down effectively for Much much longer than that so far And uh, the the business conditions are far worse There's more debt in the system than there was at the time and wages are lower than they were then and the photo reserve bank Doesn't have any as many arrows in its quiver. It shot a bunch of those arrows in 2008 2009 and never clawed them back So, uh, they have fewer tools in their toolbox than they did at that time So I expect that the stock market, which isn't the whole thing that isn't that isn't the measure of well human well-being in the world But it's like cholesterol I I think it's gonna it alone doesn't tell you what's going on But it doesn't measure of what's coming or but it does mean something But I think it's gonna leg down for months and months. I think October November or something like that will start to see if you're wrong start to see maybe right I don't see it. I don't I think it'll come back faster I think it I think it'll come back faster than those times because I think it'll be you don't think so Well, here's why I say that I'm not saying it'll cut I'm not saying that the the downward spiral won't take a very a very long time But I I don't think that the climb back will take as long as the spiral did and I think it's part of that is because You talk about there's been this massive change to everybody's life It's occurred where they've been out of jobs. Everybody's just at home Like whether even if they're even if they're working like everything's different But I think that quickly for most people it'll go back to normal And as it goes back to normal, I think the the economy events back Now how many people don't get to go back to normal because the hotels are shut down forever Some of them the restaurants are shut down forever like the service industry people like that, you know, that's that's You know, they're never they're not gonna come back They're gonna have to get a different job in a different industry and it's gonna take some time But yeah, where are those jobs going to be? There will be no growth industry. Right, right. Sure No, I it's going to continue like that. So if the sop went down 57 under a certain set of conditions in 2008 2009 I think the underlying conditions are worse There's a trillion and a half. It's due to loan debt a bill a trillion and credit card like three in automobile About nine and a half to 10 and in Mortgage I was looking this stuff up the other day and wages are lower. I You know If 2008 put the s&p down 57 I think that this could be more probably ought to be But again, that's not the whole measure of human flourishing, you know, sure so I don't know and well and so again to not depress everybody I think that we've talked a lot about on this show, especially in the early years About the things that bring us value and I think that never has there been a more important time to recognize What those things are right it makes it makes Things like your health and your family Um and whatever those things are that bring you value your training and your education like your own personal Uh reading for for education. It makes those things far more important Whatever those things are that bring you value you really got to push in on those things right now because everything else nuts, you know I think a lot of us You know, even even people who aren't you know, they don't they don't necessarily have those vices Like they don't don't smoke or drink or do drugs or whatever But like how many times do we use vices? We're just like, you know, I just we go to a restaurant to eat to eat dinner because it's kind of a thing that Give us a little dope mean hit get some food go out You know, and does it really bring me value? No, it doesn't doesn't bring me value I have way more value having dinner with my family at the table You know, you're right And uh, so so really kind of pushing in on those things has been important for us Over the last few weeks, especially coming out of the sickness, you know, like I got it so early The sickness the sickness got joked with rachel. I was like, man, if this was any of the other stuff, you know This is the bubonic plague. I'm dead already And so it's uh, and I think I said this, you know, rachel got it too But she was really asymptomatic the entire time And as of I think about five days ago the health department has officially released us So now I'm immune. She's frankly in much better health than you. She's well. I mean, obviously she was much much There's really no surprise So I get it and I get double pneumonia and go to the hospital for a couple days rachel gets it She's like, I'm good coffee tastes weird I'm like, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, taste buds are so good. So Yeah, man, push into the stuff push into the stuff that matters that brings you value family and training and kids and faith and Education and those things that they're bringing value. That's the stuff to push in for right now. It's the stuff that brings So I've talked a lot. Happiness is fleeting, right? Happiness is cheap and doesn't last and in times like this. It's hard to be happy But it's not hard to be content or joyful I'm very thankful for the the job I have and the people I get to work with and the family I've got and those things are incredible. I'm counting my blessings right now And so we can do that in the midst of the storm and might be the best thing For us make us feel better Yeah, so be patient with yourself if you've seen those numbers go down by golly. That's why guys That's why the stress is uh, un unavoidable inescapable There's another barbell logic podcast. Uh, thanks for coming and letting us bum you all out If you have any questions, you can send them to questions at barbell hyphen logic.com and uh, you know what They need to go listen to my other other show the music and ideas podcast The music and ideas podcast. Yeah Yeah, I don't even know that existed. Yeah, it's it's a lot like the uh, the christmas show i've been doing I've got oh, I do that with uh, michelle hawkins Who I yelled at about the beetles the other day because I hate the beetles. Oh interesting And uh, hey, you can go listen to that one. Itunes has got us buried. You cannot even find it there Right, and so you got in too late. We've talked about this before we got lucky here at barbell logic. Yeah, we got in right on the cusp Yeah, I think uh, yeah, I think we're doing some interesting stuff there that really nobody else is doing and uh, I think it'll I think it's gonna it actually it is a good show. It'll be all right, but uh This is just gonna take a little while just gonna take a little while But uh, send those questions to questions at barbell hyphen logic.com and we will answer them on One of our thursday shows and If you need some help with that programming or those home workouts or whatever while you're there stuck there at the house You can email experience at barbell hyphen logic.com and you get a little consultation We'll talk about your situation Uh, give you some uh, give you some programming advice and look at your form and see if we can get you moving There while you're in the midst of uh the lockdown Did you see the sweet deal we're running right now in online coaching for the So if you sign up for online coaching right now and use discount code home gym We will buy you a 200 gift card to your equipment manufacturer of choice And that would even include if you want to get your equipment from amazon or some other one That's not actually manufactured, but rogue fitness rep Fringe titan any of those a lead fts You you tell us where you want your gift card We'll get you a gift card and facilitate getting those workouts done at home And it's a pretty sweet gig basically makes your first month of online coaching free. It's a pretty good deal Outstanding. Well, thank you guys so much for listening. Wash your damn hands, huh? I've been doing it a lot Yeah, and everybody even wash your hands even after you pee I wash them before I pee But everybody stay safe and healthy out there and we will talk to you on thursday