 The Independence National Electoral Commission, INEC, had declared Mr. Thaddeus Atah of the Labour Party, the winner of the ETO South Federal Consistency, sit in the House of Representatives back in February this year. Thaddeus, an unpopular politician, contested and won the February 25, 2023 House of Representatives election for ETO South Federal Consistency in the Metropolitan Lagos State against the candidate of the PDP, Banki Wellington, also known as Banki W, an award-winning musical artist and the candidate of the APC, Babajide Obanikoro, the incumbent member of the Federal House of Representatives, running for a return ticket to the House. Atah won with 24,075 votes, beating his counterpart, Mr. Uluban Kalle Wellington of the PDP, who had 18,666 votes, and Mr. Babajide Obanikoro of the APC, who had 16,901 votes. Now that the Tribunal has ordered that INEC to conduct a supplementary election in the 32 polling units of ETO South within 90 days, in order to withdraw the return certificate issued to Atah and conduct elections in areas where the elections weren't held on the 25th of February, today we're asking, is the Tribunal's dismissal of Atah, Atah's win rather a good thing for ETO South. Now please let's hear what you have to say. Remember you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 1-803-4663. I'd like us to really hear from people that are living within ETO South, you know what you think. But let me quickly come to Mary, because this was supposed to be a what's in the news. Why did you pick it in the first place? Like what came to your mind when you saw the post? I think somebody, okay it was Dami, Dami shared it last night. She shared it to the group last night, yes. Okay, go ahead. I only saw it this morning and I just felt like it was very unfair because the Atah guy is you know not really known and all of a sudden they just want to dismiss him. So following up with the whole presidential election, it now seems like they are trying to get back at Libo party to tell them that oh you thought that you won, you know, because I feel like this is not even going to be the only one, if there are other states where there was another Libo party member that was removed from something recently. Was that Libo party, but it's in the east, yeah? Go ahead, there was another one that was sacked in the east. Did Dami check that? It's just very sad because even the little free and fair election we had, at least in the sub-communities, is seeming not free and fair anymore and Bankid W, who is now a pastor, you know, made a comment which at first I didn't read any meaning into it when he said still possible or something and I went to the comment section and people, I saw a different point of view. At first I didn't read any meaning I saw it I was like oh he still has hope to me but then again it came to mind to think if someone truly won, like were you praying all the while that you know injustice would happen so that you would you know come into the light or because you know that obviously if they redo it again you're hoping to win but like it was just it was just very sad that he would think that way. I'm not saying it's a game politics is a game everybody wants to be a winner but I think it's just very unfair, unfair towards Atah and unfair to Nigerians as a whole. You know if it's clear that someone won with 20 something thousand votes and the others have 18,000 votes I don't see any reason why the tribunal will now just come. There are no solid grounds on which they're removing Atah. I don't know why they would do that but I think it's just totally unfair and banking a view coming from this point of view it seems a bit very selfish and not safe but I guess it's politics so you know it's the game but I think it's very unfair. You're like smiling. Okay so um it's interesting I mean they all had the opportunity to you know petition the results which is what Obanikoro and Wellington did and then the judgment just came so it is said that there were no elections held in about 32 polling units you know so um with that judgment now the judgment is that INEC should withdraw the certificate Atah has been given and there should be a rerun of an election in not a rerun I'm not sure that we are rerun in the in the places they did election so it will now be the places the election then hold you know and then maybe they will now collate you know that result winner and then merge and then determine the winner um so my issue is um I'm not really sure that I have any issue honestly um if I'm not even sure that it is going to tilt towards banking maybe it I mean people are funny the honest truth is they might not even get people to come out and vote that's that's a sad reality because which which I'm so sorry for your issue but which leaves them to manipulate what they want to do but again I mean one can argue that um I'm not saying that um the the um the the people that's the other two participants the other two contestants who have who were grieved based on that result they didn't have um they don't have they they all have the opportunity to go to the contest let's um let's let me draw a bit from what you said because I think Mary is a bit emotional with this yes they pull out our daughters not to be emotional daughters not to be emotional and the funny thing is that he specifically mentioned this particular guy he said that how many bills has the person passed you know but let me keep that one aside because I want to bring that argument later because that's what we're asking now is he a good thing for the for etiosa etiosa is one of the biggest it's the richest wealthiest in the whole of Nigeria not people like not people like us in the whole of Nigeria is the richest the wealthiest is the is everything etiosa is like okay so now the 32 state um polling units that didn't have the did not conduct an election are the numbers enough to tilt the results the results you know that's the question I'd like to ask um Ainek are the numbers enough to tilt the result given that like you rightly pointed out there's going to be a lot of voter apathy not because of anything but just because this recent tribunal result it seemed like everybody that came out to vote it's like it's just it was not waste of time it was a waste of time so a lot of there's a lot of voter apathy right now people are not even interested in going out to any polling unit but it can go two ways it can go that you know what I will show you people that we won this election and I will come out again and vote you can go that way or it can go the other way to say you know what whatever you want to do at these points do I do not care so it's two ways we really don't know I sadly I might live in etiosa but I didn't change my polling unit I still vote in a cultural fair local government area so sorry for you people you know but I'm not I'm not about to come out to vote why because first of all I'm not sure of my safety I know what happened in the governorship elections after what had happened in the presidential election and they saw that um you know they were like pockets of most polling units in margoudo for instance that I voted the labor party won so most of the thugs came out for governorship elections so you can now imagine what will happen now you understand there will be a lot of I don't I cannot guarantee that there will not be um violence you understand because now it is the case of who can can mobilize more yes to be able to get that vote so but the question for today is that is the dismissal of a task win is it a good thing for etiosa and I told my guys at the back end um joy and please pull out um details for me yeah not even really so much of statistics more of track record with this guy do you understand we've we've had abanikoro yeah on this chair you understand yeah they said they're not supposed to do some things but you're supposed to propose bills you're supposed to do a lot of things etiosa local government twice it's not a joke it's not literally right and again we have so many problems at this point I do not care who is elected the only thing I would care is the person's competence I don't care what party you belong to because etiosa is not a joke I know the suffer that I'm suffering you understand on this lekek for instance just just give that one as an instance do you understand it is not a joke so anybody that is coming to represent us in etiosa must know what you're doing you must really really understand the pain that people are going through we don't have an alternative road so if there is a lockdown on this lekek express we are all stuck so look at when the um what's it called those answers things happened do you understand when the answers when the lockdown all of those things happened it was it there I was still on that road till 5 a.m it wasn't a joke because you don't like if you're going to the mainland there are other routes you can take to your destination on this lekek express it's just one road most of all the what's it called the alternate roads that they're constructing they're still under construction they've not finished it so for me it's not about whether it is a labor party or it's a I'm not emotional what I want is who will represent my interest that understands the pain that I'm going through and I will say you know what I want to propose bills and I want to fight for my constituency so that we can get better living well generating a lot of revenue for these guys but you know what let's take a break because I want to read out what they found and we'll now continue from there but let's go on a very short break we'll be right back all right thanks for staying with us now if you just turned in is our ladies night out Deola Mary and I are having a conversation around this tribunal the recent judgment that just came out again for Etiusa constituency we're asking is the dismissal of Attaz Wain is he a good thing for Etiusa local government that's the question a number to call a 070-250-7749 that's the number to call remember turn off the volume of your television whatever it is that you're watching us from so we don't get the feedback I would really love to hear what Etiusa people living in Etiusa constituency have to say about this remember you can also send us an sms or whatsapp to 08034663 all right so I mean so I said I said to my team I said please guys can you help me find out what the track record is and all of that so Joy came back to me she says number one atta has no achievements since he won I remember that's what Kuley was I said he won there's really no thing visible he's proposed in the house nothing right there's nothing he's done in the house number two bank it up you had a successful musical career but left to join politics in 2022 the musician who spoke when he appeared as a guest on a tv channel explained that the decision to join politics was driven by his desire for good governance in the country bank it up you founded I am capable scholarship fund a platform he uses to give back to the society the foundation provides tuition to assist youth attack Tadios on the other hand a chief he says is a Nigerian politician businessman he won the national assembly elections on Friday 25th 25th to clinch the house of representative nothing on him that he's done like it like he's tangible that we can see Obaniko on the other hand as a member of the house of representative he launched an empowerment program that provided financial grants to petty traders motorbikes motorbikes to residents association security operatives to aid to aid their community security efforts he facilitated many legislative programs that was sponsored by small medium-scale enterprise agency of Nigeria to combat poverty and promote human capital development attack defeated of course both of them and since the polls he's really not done anything in the house so for me track record matters then even if it's not track record we're in an era of social media if I type your name on google what are the things that i'm supposed to be seeing about you you understand because it's not enough for you to say first of all you are popular i won or you won you know because all of them look at so how did he you know label party so that's the thing right he i could i could swear that if i had a ticket you would have one genocide like if i was a candidate under the label party because of the wave of the moment right and this is where i want to like give a a caution to everybody that won under the label party you won not because you people really wanted you to i mean like people knew you for your competence no you won because of the the rave of the moment you won because there was there was something in the air you people rode on pita obese whatever and you won now between that time that you've been in the house till now oh god what have you proposed so it's not enough for us to be i don't see i've told myself with politics now i am removing anything emotions i'm not interested so like i said i do not care who what party you come from what party you belong to as long as your delivering right is what i want what are you delivering for us you know so i don't know what's your take because based on this reading if you want to even pick a continent it will be a bernie borough from well based on the reading yeah based on the reading but i can't i can't pick up an equal again too because he's been there right and if we are complaining of the problems that we're having it means that maybe there's something not fundamentally uh that's not before the mentally done you just said track record what which one do you the person that has the most track record is about what did you mention about back in the day is successful musician and he has foundation he's a politician obviously who is not going to open a foundation that's that's the game now you have to be giving back to the commission giving back to the committee aside from that what else again i don't know i mean i i i like where mary is going with this we also one must not sentimentalize this the fact that banke is popular i mean we're not trying to say to anybody this is who you should vote for but we we must come to a realization that we have a choice and our choices must be based on on reality it must again i i i think one of the things when people are campaigning they don't campaign on issues that's a problem because what's the issue okay because what's the use of campaigning on the issue no see that that's the problem when the sequence read the election no no no no no no no no the election is one part campaigning on issues signify that you do not only know what the issues are you have a blueprint of how to if i can win without campaign about issues they wash right campaign about issues no you don't but you see that's also the problem because that's also the problem yeah because our cultural air for campaigns is about manifesto it's about promises promises that they have no idea how to implement you can't be telling me that you want to you will build more schools what schools are you building do you even know how many children are in your constituency do you know how many classrooms you need to build do you know it's a basic statistics that should inform whatever solution you think okay this constituency is having okay someone says they want to again another thing these guys i honestly feel that they do not even understand their responsibilities or what they should be doing as house members they think it is their job to fix roads it's not it's not your job it's not your job your job is in the place of policies and you know and represents anything that concerns it's your side your job is to say oh it's your side yes this is our problem how much we are giving in terms of tax in terms of revenue to the state okay this is what we expect we expect that businesses are coming to this area they should have x y z amount of electricity we are in a position okay so who can manage this okay not to be sentimental honestly yeah um i would hold brief for obanikoro and i'll tell you why regardless of how we look at it governance politics is also about negotiation yes it's about on it's about collaboration it's about knowing okay you know what can you stand for my because you see if you propose a bill you need to get that bill passed you know to lobby yes you must so it is big you must be a i mean exactly you must be a powerful negotiator you must be a people's person you must be able to win people over to your side you must understand the politics of the game yeah as a politics to it it's not enough for you to have the zeal and passion there's a politics to it so who speaks the politics who speaks the language of politics so i was coming to that because you see the the challenge i am having you know before i used to be you know but now i think my head my head is getting clear when it comes to all this political matter you know the truth is right it is one thing for us to understand that yes these are the problems but it's another thing for us to be able to understand how to go about solving those problems so i remember when the young man that was contesting against desmond and live in the suruli reliever party came to the studio i remember getting a call from somebody very powerful in lego state and saying that well who is this person that says he wants to go to the house of the person even understand the amount of what's he called negotiations and politics and whatever that you need to play even within the house so it's not enough see a nigerian's problem is a lot of problems right so for you to be able to even survive and stand or withstand whatever you need to be able to speak i've said this thing that you cannot come or they can't see you coming if politicians see you coming they put over defense yeah you understand they cannot see you coming so i'm not particularly gonna hold before bani kori because i feel like he you know hasn't really really delivered on etiosa etiosa has a potential was was he in etiosa yes no etiosa has a potential he was coming back for a second yeah so etiosa has a huge potential that i feel that even him doesn't really understand the intricacies of etiosa do you understand so i mean like literally it is one thing for us to say that um what's he called it's one thing for us to say that there is a problem it's another thing for you to be able to solve that problem and understand the dynamics of solving that problem so if i if i'm to answer the question if etiosa wins the dismissal of his win if it's a good thing for us i'll say yes i'll say yes because i want them all of them again to come back with a manifesto do you understand literally not with a manifesto or whatever with with with a blueprint and give us a actionable blueprint give us like maybe seven proposals that you want to go and propose in the house when you're going there exactly so you're not just going there and going there to sit quietly right you are you are coming prepared to say okay you understand the the indicates what's called challenges that etiosa has and you are ready to these are your seven point or eight point or hundred points and proposals that you want to propose to the house because like literally since when were we have they resumed office since till now if it's somebody that's craving for you should have at least at least shout and say oh you're trying to propose a bill or they did not nobody gave you audience so oh you've really not done anything so i think that it's a good thing i think it's a what there are real issues the revenue is not stopping that's the pain it just keeps giving revenue i mean you you have a whole lot of taxes coming from this and he's collecting money now he's not collecting money he's collecting salary so he must justify salary and his allowances so we have no other question i've told you said none of them she wants the three of them to come back let them come back and tell me what it is that they want to because i know that the challenges in etiosa are literally we are we are actually suffering it's terrible it's terrible have you seen the like i've lost two tires you know on that road if you see the big massive craters on the road you're just driving boat you just go into so obani color keeps patching since obani color has not been there i've not they patched it a bit but they don't patch again you know like it's terrible we are we are we are bigger than that you know so i i feel like you know it's a good thing let everybody go back to their drawing board and go and find a real like real blueprint for us to say okay this is how they want to see it and then bring back the blueprint and let us watch it again you know then we were concentrating so much on the presidential we didn't really pay attention to their blueprint so let them bring the blueprint it's true i'm i'm being honest absolutely did you pay attention to the blueprint you said there was a blueprint do you know where the blueprint is produce a blueprint please send it but hey i think it's a good thing but let me hear your thoughts on general um the the the tribunal because again may we touch on it a bit should we approach this to say that it's a witch hunt well it won't be absolutely incorrect but i won't also categorically say correct i think don't be on the fence no but really i don't have that's the best they say when the elephant fights the grass suffers right there is always cause and there's always cause and effects you so you can't um it's a game they all understand yeah they all understand yeah so i think it is also looking from the outside that he feels but they understand it and they know that the minute anything is challenged they know do you understand so whether it is a witch hunt because you see the the thing can be flipped we we don't have politicians in Nigeria who believe in the ideology of whatever party they are in they are only in parties that can give them the best opportunity to be whatever seats they can so you can't really say that oh okay because you see if they give one of them a chance to go to another party and say you don't worry just keep quiet next um election cycle that place that you're going you will clinch if you say okay let me keep quiet there's no need for me to even try to understand that's the way politics work in Nigeria so really you it i've been with well it's very you can't put anything past Nigeria that's what i have seen you can't marry it's like you have a direct answer that's my answer yes it is i mean it's sad but me too i'm also understanding the politics so yeah but is it really really a witch hunt yeah is it really me if if elections did not hold in 32 polling polling units i mean it's a huge number it's not something to to just gloss over i said if the submission is not arranged and that's why they went to court right court just they went to tribunal let me put it like that that's why they went to tribunal but because of course the presidential there was a whole lot of attention on that we didn't really focus on the other little petitions but i mean okay i wish you were here yesterday because Pule was here yesterday and he gave us a different perspective on the on the judgment of the tribunal really and for me you know when i go home i kept thinking about it and what could they said really it didn't make sense you can't come to a tribunal and expect me to fight your battles i won't do it you have to come ready for war but you didn't come prepared you came for a battle me when he was a war you know i just figured out yeah it seems like it seems like i'm like a Peter will be which is we're still falling on emotions when he said which realize that look is a game and we're all here to fight nobody cares about saying that they are crying simple and guess what will happen in Nigeria they know rules they play very dirty and that's what they say that a lot of times that women don't even dare to go into politics and all of that because the game is very messy nobody's going to spare you to say oh because she's the molestry has something no do you understand what i'm saying so that's what i'm saying that for me well for it just i'm happy you let all of them go back to the drawing because again there are people that are shouting saying who is that attack guy banky w that should have won you know because they felt it was popularity and all of that but you see this one now the attack if it truly has substance now is the time to go and bring out all your asses now because it is no longer about the Peter will be there's nobody you're riding on you really must bring out substance people must know you how can i go on google to check who you are what you've done i can't find anything about you you know even my small step as i did like if you google my name you will see some things you know you google yourself yeah let me take one color hey finally oniru etiosa rock i told him good evening what do you think would you like the tribunals judgments yeah quickly you know what i want to say in the middle is there something about if we run what will be a reason for the election before the council the election they don't go cast the election because of one party or order there won't be a reason for it so if they found a fault somewhere or there is a fault somewhere is the it is the duty of the tribunals to cancel the election and for them to do the rerun is because the yellow people party only have few sports in in the in this past election doesn't mean that they can't get away with anything so if there is a fault then something must be done about it okay so do you like do you like the idea that they cancelled it yes there's a reason for that in the first place i know there's a reason but are you happy about it that's what i'm saying so that we will have a rerun is that what you're just asking well if the reason is genuine then it is fine by me okay but if it is because the chagaban is there he's trying to sweep him back all his lost position then that's not fine okay okay but if there is a foul play somewhere yes it is fine okay but if he's trying to use these two that is totally out of it all right thank you so much so that's what i'm trying to say but because the way she was talking i think she is somehow by us is not happy that you are taking it from LP it is not about LP it's about the credibility of the election all right thank you so much thank you and have a nice evening thank you so don't they say don't be emotional okay follow the facts and the figures let them tell us the facts and the figures now let them tell us right let them tell us let them actually tell us it's one thing it's one thing i mean there's no reason and then you just come up and then you say tell us let's be open if we want to really be free and free be open about it okay so but um atai is not contesting the fact that there was no election in 32 polls he he's not contesting me so he means he actually knows that's what i'm saying see let me tell you something me i'm happy because now you will need to bring your blueprint manifesto because it's not about yeah there's no distraction now atiosa people will come out i believe they will come out to vote but they really now must see your manifesto in his true self and if Aksar knows what he's doing i mean he already he won it again he has 26 000 already they're not doing for the other places it's just the places that they come out because he can't do his own work already he's in the system so he i mean except because nobody is doing this he should go and do his own work but me i don't like the idea of witchhuncher in case of just in case trapmina we are watching you people thank you thank you dear lord thank you Mary i'll be watching them no matter you watch or you don't watch whatever will be will be well of course our social media handles that wish african-american interact thus further drop a comment and more importantly follow all our engagements on social media like share invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation i feel missed our quote for today here it is again the February 25th election has just been rightly declared inconclusive and supplementary elections have been ordered by the court ainec has been ordered to withdraw the return certificate and conduct elections in areas where it didn't hold on election day so this is from abanikoro ibarahim so we will see you guys tomorrow at 8 p.m. also bring another great conversation to your screen ciao