 personal stuff to attend to in the evening. Sure. It's 9.30, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's actually better if it's a little later, because if something happens, it usually happens around 7 or 8 PM. And so this way, I get to do that and this. So the recording's already going. Yeah. And we're in here. Did anyone get a host code from Rai? He mentioned the host code a long time ago on the Gacta Contributed Channel, or Gacta Contributed Channel. Yeah, but he just put in place a new system. He told me today that from now on, every meeting we'll have a different host code. But it doesn't matter. If the recording is on, then it's already on, yeah. Yeah. You don't really need anything else. So just give me a second to pull up the agenda document and do your screen share. Oh wait, can we screen share? We can. OK, good. All the trees, one of the old ones, real quick. Can you see the screen? Yeah. Yeah. OK. Welcome everyone to the Hyperledger Cacti Maintainers Meeting. Please abide by the anti-trust policy notice that I'm showing on the screen and also the Hyperledger Code of Conduct, which you can find linked on the wiki. And with that said, my update is, sorry I have not been on top of my inbox. Again, there was Memorial Day weekend here in the US, which is a long weekend. And then I got sick, which did not help. So I was out of touch with what happened with the R3 chord thing, but then I saw that they submitted a lab proposal. And then I approved that because if that's the way they want to go, that's fine by me. I'll respond the same to the emails I just haven't caught up yet. And also, them starting a lab doesn't necessarily mean that later they couldn't join us anyway. So I think we're still in a good position to collaborate with them either way. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, I responded to them in the first hours. So the suggestion of the lab was made by Hart. I think they had reached out to him for advice. And I just mentioned that we also started the same way with Beaver. And our goal has been to avoid reinventing the wheel in different forms. So as long as we have as we can, I mean, if there are different projects with different distinct value propositions, that's fine. And we can continue to collaborate. And if you look at their description, they primarily want to share, I think, ideas and models and suggestions along the lines of what they presented to us in the meeting about a month ago. So and not majorly code, I think they will contribute some sample product. Makes sense. Makes sense. OK, now we can just see where that goes. It's exciting news either way. Yeah. And I'm guessing the TOC will approve it in general as well. Yeah. So on. Yeah. I was just going to say that. That's all I had. Sorry. Please go ahead. OK. Yeah, I a couple of other couple of things that I don't do more work on, but I haven't had this time or one make the new diagram to correspond to a new package that you're going to come out with that would allow a selection of factors versus weaver mechanisms. These are the things for sharing that PowerPoint, I unfortunately still haven't managed to create the new diagram that I wanted to yet. We have this week is also quite busy. We have a paper deadline next week and we're trying to write a paper for that. But I will try to do that whenever I get some time. And the other thing I wanted to do was start working on the or rather create the documentation page as we discussed the last time we met, which would have at a high level. So it would have a landing page, talk about the vision and the roadmap, and then have a cactus page, a link to go to cactus talks, and then a link to go to the weaver docs as people can take this. So that's something that's also on my to-do list. I think we settled on using the documentation template that Tracy has been maintaining a sample, right? It's under t-curt slash documentation dash template. That's the one, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the best one also. That's what I remember as well. Sorry, what's that? That's the same as I remember it as well. Yeah, I was looking through the old TOC channel chat, and this is what I found. So yeah, that's on me. But yeah, I haven't. I don't have anything to show at least for today's meeting. Thanks. Oh yeah, and Isru, I did approve that PR that you had mentioned a while ago. Oh, thank you very much. Sandeep, you have anything on the packages and the GitHub actions? No, nothing. So all packages are now released, right? Yeah. OK. And Peter, thanks a lot for all the Bezu fixes. That's great. Yeah, no problem. I had to dive really deep. Honestly, it was not easy. But I was just curious because it was an intriguing problem and I spent a couple of days just going deep with that. Yeah, it was a good experience because now I know how to debug a transaction exactly on Bezu, not just based on the return codes, which turns out sometimes are not even accurate, but also based on actually looking at trace logs inside of Bezu. So in a way, I thank you because I definitely became more experienced, more proficient with that. Thanks, both ways. And yeah, I think we can probably look to you for help on some Bezu issues later. So we have one of our projects is on adding support for relay-based communication using on Bezu. So right now we have the support of Fabric and Corda. So yeah. Yeah, they're talking about the project. So I think we have we found interns for the project that we had selected. You also found interns? Yeah, we submitted the list of names to men last Friday at the exact last minute of the deadline, as usual. But we got it done. Great. And now the hard part comes where the interns will be here and we have to spend a lot of time coaching them. Wait, are they going to be there in person? No, no, I just went they'll be around. Yeah, right. Yeah, I don't have anything else. Just one thing I want to mention, I'll be you all know that we've been involved in this protocol standardization effort under the IETF, right, Secure Asset Transfer Protocol. That's Rafael has also been a key member. So I plan to be in San Francisco for that in the last week of July. So if you're around that week, then we're great to catch up. You're in San Francisco the last week of July. Yes, most nice. OK, I do you have the exact dates if it does happen? Yeah, I let me just send you the link to the working group. In fact, it'd be great if you could also attend the SATB working group just for that that day. The single day option once again. I just really hope it's not on the 28th. Oh, there's a chance it might be. Let me drop the measure. Drop this message in the Zoom chat. Or this code, whichever. OK, we're going to start. Yeah, so this is IETF one month seven. And look at the meeting agenda. There's a link to the agenda. Go up. OK, they haven't released the agenda yet. So they're still working on it. And last time, wait, what are the days exactly? 22nd to 24th to 28th, right? Or 22nd to 28th. At 22nd, 23rd, there's a previous week and they usually have some hackathons and stuff. But the main session is Monday to Friday. And the last time it was in Japan. And I attended that virtually. The hour session was scheduled on the Friday. So which day did you say, 28th? Yeah, 28th is my birthday. So I will not be in time for that. OK, well, thanks for letting us know. All right, but if it any other day, I will make it happen for sure. OK, OK, well, let's hope it gets you before 28th. Yeah, yeah, either way. I mean, you can't make it there. Then I'll be in town. So oh, yeah, we should definitely schedule something either way. So you you will a Simbuco Hotel downtown somewhere. Yeah, this is in the Hilton Union Square. Yes, OK. I may not be able to book that hotel, but I saw other hotels nearby. Pretty good. I leave about 10 minutes away from their own foot. So it would be very easy. Yeah, OK. Nice. Yeah, I haven't. I was there. I think I haven't been there in like 12 years or something. I was out there in 2010. It's been a minute. OK. It's changed a lot since then, but I know a few good places to go to. I'm sure you do. Yeah, very good. Yeah, I'll block this on my calendar. Thank you for letting me know. It'd be good for also Israel. I don't know if you may not be in. In the states at that point, but anyone from Fujitsu can attend that that would be great. Well, I actually don't know if there are any person attending that idea. But if I know if there are some guy attending that, I won't let you know. Sure. So it has like a weekly registration and also a daily registration. So we just need to attend one day. Yeah, I can just pick that. OK. Are you attending all of the day in drama? Well, traveling that far, it doesn't make sense to register for one day. So I registered for the full week, but I like most people, you know, I might be sitting working doing my own work at the site. A lot of the time. Yeah, OK. I think Hart also said he would try to identify. Nice. Okay. This is good to know. Thank you very much. I need to. The second 28. I had nothing else. Okay. Is there any other topics that you have in mind? No. Okay, cool. Then I'll try to work more of my inbox. Sorry again. And thanks everyone for joining. I'll talk to you later. Thank you. Thanks. Bye. Bye bye. Bye.