 and a very warm welcome back to Why in the Morning. You're watching Why in the Morning right here with me, Brian Sakua, and remember to still stay on the hashtag Why in the Morning and on this segment, hashtag MCM. We are talking about being Kenyan. You know those things that unify us? They're like, you know, this set should be like a boy child edition. But you know those things that make us sound like we are funny, we are crazy, weird, and awkward, but in a good way? That's the main topic of this conversation. And on that note, we had asked you on our social media platforms, new warnings, Gany Kamau Kenya, I'm also to Chukwangi series, or just sometime, especially Palepaku file returns, you know, you're up in the last minute rush, and it's just unique. It's like a culture or something we have developed. And they're joining me right now on set, I'm not alone, to take on these conversations are two guys who are comedians, and I'm going to let them introduce themselves. So I'm going to start with the guy who's seated immediately next to me, and welcome guys, introduce yourself. Thank you so much. My name is John Halliquin, yeah, from GQT. Welcome. Thank you. Do you, what do you do mainly? Committee. Okay. Yeah, and I'm a student. Welcome. Yeah. Next. Yes, they call me Gilbert Marshall. Okay. Oro Deghe. Okay. I'm a writer, scriptwriter. Okay. My YouTube channel is Digia Couples Comedy. I write about love stories and shit. I do journalism in J-Quart. Okay. Yes, that's what I study. The certificate I'm going to get. Okay. Yes, thank you for welcoming the show. Okay. I hope you enjoy all of us. Welcome guys. This is like a kabocha edition, so Mr. Thames. Yeah, yeah. And interesting enough, both of you are comedians, and in this country, the memes and the Kenyans on Twitter will always kill you. And right now, we're going to talk about cataclysm to POSITE. To POSITE, cataclysm. And how this guy came to trend on social media, it's just out of nowhere. Is it like a culture in comedy? And it just unifies us, and it creates that humor and that pizzazz of like, we are funny, and it is what it is. Kenyans, but like, we're not just Kenyans, we're also Kenyans who are comedians who come here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're just crazy, naturally, and not the medallity. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it. Particularly in our mind, like everybody. So everybody's just funny in its own way. So it's just our culture as Kenyans. You feel like it's our culture? Yeah, you know, it's nice. It's inborn, it's inborn madness. What about you? It's just, let me say, that day, it will reach you, it will go viral. You never know. Like you don't plan to say, like that person will say cataclysm, but you plan to say it the next day, then you say it will go viral. Just something that happens naturally. Even now, you can just be funny, then you go, actually, it's just natural. Yeah, it's natural. Yes. And speaking of, like, anything can go viral, like, was it yesterday, I think a couple of days ago, there's this Tik Toka, Ali Kula Spider. The bottom one. And he's eating, like, a variety of, like, an inedible foodstuffs, and he's doing it for content. Do you think that, even as you as comedians, when I go to the extent, you're going to have to create attention or to make people laugh. I'm going to just get the numbers online. Okay. Addressing that, personally, yes, he was doing this for content, but to some extent, he was exaggerating. To some extent, let me say so, because he went to an extent of maybe putting his life on risk to entertain others. There's this celebrity who told him that, bro, as much as you're doing this content to train us, but make sure you're not risking your life. But then we as comedians, yes, we go, we do awkward things, but not, like, putting your life in a risk for the sake of this. Let it come out naturally. Let it not force anything. Yeah, just bring it out, but don't risk your life. Awesome. And what are some of the crazy jokes, like, for you, both of you are comedians, it's interesting. What are some of the craziest jokes that will, like, in the natural, in as much as in the video, maybe it's because in a boundaries, what you're talking about mentioned, but in the natural, whether it's true or not, what you're saying is true or not. I have more, I mentioned many boy child edition, struggles of boy child is something we don't want to talk about to some extent, because this pressure, we are passing through as people, and we're like, we don't want to talk about these openly, to the ladies, so we bring it into the comedy part, so after all, it's in a comedy, but then you're just saying the truth, you know, in a different way. In a hilarious way. So what is the craziest joke you've ever told, like, Acha or Sioaki Cheka, they were like, this one is killing it. Okay, personally, I'm not so much into the stage thing. Okay. Yeah, I do script. Oh, you do mindless script writing? Mainly a lot of script writing. That means you write crazy jokes, right? Yeah, I do. Tell us some of the craziest ones. Okay, there are many, like, there are many, my favorite is like, yesterday I uploaded a video, let me just mention that, it was about, this guy, like, currently I'm a boy, but I want to know, when I was born, I was born. Like, you're just mentioning a lady, you're just mentioning a lady. You're just mentioning a lady. Acha is a woman. Acha is a woman. She's a woman. She's a woman. Like, yeah, I, they always know, you're just mentioning a lady. You're just mentioning a lady. This, that guy, when I was born, he was like, he's another two stories, they pop in. We know that. So I think the video was personally to me, I searched it yesterday. It was really crazy to me and the ending and it went to extend that, now I was the guy that knew everything and the guy really slapped me. He slapped you? It was a serious joke, like, and it was comedy and he slapped me really hard. Serious joke. Yeah. So, that led to a slap. It really, it led to a slap. So, such things, they are really, really us, but then, we are not bringing it an aspect of now doing something so awkward. Yeah, it's just the simple things that matters. But then, you do it in, in a comedy way. Interesting. What about you, my man? I don't do much of stand-up comedy, but the craziest one you've told? What I do mostly is, I do scrutiny. You scrutinize people and put them like in a compass. So, for example, veracidika, if you were to like focus on veracidika, unge scrutinize ni ni san san san. Kon ni ni machi etu na ribu, jamani, like that one, I'm a frank to her, the body shape and now she's a very fine nice lady. Yeah, so to make her like, in order to bring the trust that she's a size 8, I just say she's thrilling our eyes, you know, that boys are attracted to such things and yeah, mostly I do, I can only, like if I say you, think you're short, I just think. I don't mention, think you're short. So you visualize the person and bring the comedy out of there? Yes, but sometimes, you know, you want to make it in a way that the person doesn't feel like you're doing discrimination or something. Like you make it to be in a funny way, so you invest in the environment. Yeah. I can't start joking, somebody I'm not used to. Okay, on that note, there's a lot of warnings, it's like, after you make one a gaver, like everybody knows, it's like universal law, you should pick up, you should pick a picture, you should pick up, you should pick up, even on the zebra crossing, you have to cross the road. You know what I'm saying, I'm saying, you make a footbridge, like you cross the road, you have to cross the road, you have to pick on the other side. Now I'm not a footbridge, like, what is the problem? She didn't ask me to go to Kenya. Time. It's time. Now, just being rebellious. When I say I'm fine, I'm fine. That's the thing. When I say I'm fine, I'm fine. So you want to go against your rules? Yeah, it's just natural. It's a natural instinct, and it's Kenyan. If you're telling me that you do not go behind the screen or let me say behind that door, I'll be like, why? But why? I'm fine. Why? Why? Why? Then I'll be like, I'm fine, I'm fine. Then I'll go. You're new. Then I'll go, I'm fine, I'll be fine. I'll go. So she's attracted to roads, she's like, do not pick or drop passages here. Yeah. So I'll go. I'm not cross here. Yeah. Slip of the road. I'll go to the police, I'll go and do not pick on any app. Yeah. So I'm small, I'm small, I'm not a footbridge, I'm Kenyan. Is it because we are illiterate? Like you mentioned, Amma, it's just, it's just something that comes because it's coming and you just have to do it. Is it curiosity? Okay. You know, making laws is, is kind of like, you do not involve us. Why should you, why should you tell us that do not cross here, do not do that, that this, we must just test. Yeah. That's not true. So yeah, yeah, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. That's not true. So test of shit. Like it's just something, like curiosity. Like curiosity. Like curiosity. Like curiosity. No, no, no, no. Like curiosity. It's just. It's out of nowhere. And especially most of us, most of us the 90s kids. most of us, most of us the 90s kids. We don't have rules We don't have rules we don't have rules sitting room. But out of nowhere you will sneak in the bedroom, sit on the table and do all the madness. Do you think bro it's something that is it's maybe inspired from like way way back and it's just a character we are extending or we are just playing we are just playing a character that has already been defined especially when it comes to the rules and regulations that are there okay yeah sure go ahead you know like nobody would like to be a subject to one yeah personally everybody always want to be on top yeah so like you have to be under me to a point I feel let's say for example TP high school let me take let me take let me take let me take for campus exam and be a is not a lecture but then he's there to supervise we know very well you look to a tweak of here but that work shine just know to be under that person another thing like you'll just go to a you'll just go there and confirm a lot of things people do for a for instance we know this as a warning just to to to branch up a warning this this can be to some point okay let me talk about STDs yeah yeah sexual transmitted diseases the ministry of health or make a misery do not like and unprotected sexes will lead you to this yeah really need to youths really to care take care anytime you're doing this you anytime you're doing this you need to use these protections use protection to avoid consequences of unprotected yeah you people are really knowledgeable and we need to use this thing let's go ah kiddo after around three to five minutes you get that like you just ignorant and speaking of ignorance do you feel you know like rules are naturally meant there to be broken because if if there's no rule then okay yeah if there's no rule then I'm everything will be right but then and then in this in this life and most of the time you find yourself in the part of the unlucky person so you want to be the boss yeah let me do what this person is doing and the cycle continues because nobody wants to humble themselves yeah so at the end of the day we end ourselves in a cycle in a cycle the same same patterns so we do that like yeah so you're you're exaggerating to be the best yeah and speaking of that uh it's it's yesterday and maybe a couple of days ago like a day before so Kenyans on twitter are jumping and they were like uh criticizing and harling insults at the daughter c s amina do you think uh social media too you know to make a son or to expose the evils that do not happen in terms of the rules that needs to be broken do you think especially twitter especially hashtag k o t you know to make a son or to expose the evils that are coming in and in before I come to you post twitter like in this country to some point you feel you feel climate okay when you're like these people in you there's so much gauge into social media aperture they will be like every news in a kooja you know you're gonna struggle day and night looking for something to post the same thing I would have done any wrong thing like now they're not focusing you are there is this this um between co-identify able to criticize not that clout chase yeah they look alike but they are really different for example oh me now bring it exaggerate it impeccable that's what we are doing like we want we want this thing too so the the reason we're not part of a canyon they do this they tag this they tag these people most of us we're just looking for for numbers it's basically numbers it's basically numbers nothing else but do you think it helped to raise awareness that um it it dies and I mean it's almost like a close but then but then the mentality and the person who to like introduction I could work when she's here which I'm already late and there's a reason we need to look at this yes what's the reason for is the the reason my but then so the reason is just difference I'm going to really take part but then but then on a part of them when you're when you're later in news we are could tarnish the daughter exactly do you think really this idea in in terms of session media now could expose evils then yeah Kenyans wanna be here majorly uh it only went viral when Omanala didn't win didn't become the first person in the race because when he arrived there was there was everybody was silent but after the race now because but he proceeded it did a very good work but people were expecting him to be number one number one through all through the sessions all till finals two semifinals and everything but he made it he made us proud yeah so the reasons why Kenyan really are now so much into that we expected Omanala to be number one but now that was number three or something now people are angry it's like I'm expecting you to be always getting a then you then you came you come to exams late then you get a name minus that's where another scrutiny will come come from we don't scrutinize something if you don't expect something we expect it because if I had if you had arrived late then it became number one Kenyans now could be boasting even if I wake up late I'm still the G Kenyans are Gs you get that situation yeah but he still made it he made us proud so majorly uh the the social media thing they say we have freedom of speech yeah so now people are looking at these other people who arrived earlier maybe they used their own their own money or something because Omanala this year is being sponsored and everything maybe somebody I said let me go with my own money but doing that he was he was late they mean that now we all have to now just be negative negative they're posting side also yeah it's right but now we can't now bring the 32 people down and oh but you know Ken you can't tell me to keep quiet I have my phone yes my dad that is your dad my dad told me at me even so is it cool I don't know enough and what one I could get to social media could jibu because for example I think when ring tone ring tone I keep post something because what do I believe he's like a legit gospel artist do you think I'll say we jump in because do you think it's because of that mostly because no haters are going to go into hating that's the fact okay so they are haters in short some are haters some are good okay if I comment nice work somebody won't say that uh this person is idle yeah if I if I comment but you have a very bad voice and she is somebody say you don't have like that is the one that you have to concentrate on yeah the thing is uh our society now is it's all about the phone because the moments that the time that we spend on our on our phone than uh with our friends is much more if I'm online what am I lesser or much it's it's too much we spend time on phones as compared to real one-on-one conversations you know it's really less in this house it's really less like I better not if my friends come to visit me at my place it's better we just keep quiet listening to me but everybody's on the phone yeah I'm chatting somebody who is even in in Malaysia or something just for just looking for something to look then yeah something interesting boring and the society nowadays is in the phone because somebody even before I eat I must just look for after eating even charge if somebody can even be texting but it's it's in charge yeah the band of God is there preaching yeah I'm a code date you might be like I'm to date the bad boys texting you all the time that texting you up on the summer she doesn't answer so much the search is now in the phone so we get a genius like we can say that we are idle we are so we also be easy in some way some more in some sort of that that is not stolen that that I must be worked for okay that's the fact interesting one as among the Karnayro is one big bedroom and they say Karebu Karnayro Karebu Karnayro What are some of the traits you say in a come-to-reality as you know Karnayro be ready be ready for a very stormy ride Karnayro What is your experience before I come back to you What is your crazy experience in Karnayro? Come again later sir Like in what perspective? Especially relationships with a boy child Wait before we think about it this guy is a poet by the way and I thought Tony Vox, Tony Vox There is a poem and it's the conversation I'll say it in a few words at the this is the conversation so it was talking about Nairobi Nairobi big bedroom Ulisabe in Seoul Atakameinyatakusho Vijanawa and Goro See you sing easy too There are some sites that are pro know So like he was talking about by the the conversation is a really good name He talked about Nairobi in a very nice manner and big up to him wherever he is So Nairobi Nifunza Samam, feel it Feel it Hey this, this, this I will say ma I'm sorry like I have to say this but it's just what is happening So I will say ma I'm a little bit of a cook I'm a little bit of a blow job I'm a little bit of a key for a little bro don't So something of the sort He said that So this thing is really crazy by the way and it's it's it's a lot of our youth because I'm talking multitask Where's the machine? It's just a family and it's just a family like if you just can't maintain Is it from a personal experience? I'm just saying because I have people like me to learn actually I have a team in Nahuak now like from my my my people I've done it for a long time So like we share the experiences So Napaata you're dating somebody let me talk about personal experience I was in a relationship So in a relationship I'm dating somebody so I can go on a date for three months and APL has a relationship for six months After after he she's dating the previous I'm dating but I'm gonna double date in short Yeah you really do I've never had more than one when you're in a relationship and I'm like how? like to break up Leo and then like when you're dating three months ago Napaata like you're sitting down and saying but this is the time you may waste like what a long story but what can just say if you're going to waste time you better just leave them alone okay yeah just don't waste their time because people are mean people are when you are online what are you doing? what are you doing? you're making my son my child yours bro first personally Nairobi is not a bed of roses to lie on personally okay it's not a good thing but it's only by God's grace never woke alone Nairobi never there woke alone because personally I was let me say say what bro? Karibunic Kulewa Simya I'm Karibunic Simya I'm like Malizia Sim I love Oulet Maliz Oulet so I'm like I'm like I'm still new and everything I'm still new in Nairobi I'm still new like son I'm still new I'm still a big city and shit I wanna do some rounds I'm Malizia Sim Oulet I'm just saying I'm not gonna lie I know I'm not gonna lie I'm not gonna lie to you I wanna do this I'm not gonna lie I'm gonna lie and I'm gonna do this I'm not gonna lie I'm Malizia Sim Oulet but You see quick what to square like I'm kind of tall and she it because I was a way so I'm just like they also afraid in some way Like we can walk you under two ways he won a quarter, but you're also weak not One occupies my two Achilles Emotions plus this other thing man said Joe, it's not really nice because because Nairobi man say like what do you like? me say much They're unfortunate. We're going is there less fortunate. We're going Like we'll be TV Bega Peter evening Peter evening like Sad you what so do you listen when you're sort of was due to funny name you man say sir You can't help everybody not like but you feel you feel if I'm just idea who you Do you do pity you come in here come in here come to me so I feel to ash Come in government here to man say In a Kenya man say like but you can't change the world you're for yourself So you don't have to come us here. Yeah, I'm not a car. I'm a fine. I'm not gonna find out. I'm not I'm not fine. I'm just a cookie and I'm not I'm a mess I did the evil But come up to make you to promote your money So then you can come to a quarter or to cross streets man say but it says I'll buy a game in your car I don't know what else. I'm like it, I don't know how to do that. I just want to fake it. I don't want to fake it. But in my opinion, it's the same thing. We are making it, we are discriminating against others. We are like, why is it a joke? Speaking of that, there are some politicians who immediately speak to people who are exposed to the virus. And I'm sure some of you have heard about it. I'm sure some of you have heard about it. Some of you have seen it, but it's a movement. It's a choreographed movement. And then Barbara and I, when the time comes, we'll say we're imitated. Is it because these people have made it like a culture? Like, every person has a speech. They should be able to read it and get the virus. And especially if it's a comedy. In short, I'm imitated. I'm imitated. I'm imitated. I'm imitated. I'm imitated. Do you think it's something that, you know, as yours, comedians should learn from it and use it? Okay. To say, I'm imitated. I'm imitated. But that guy, like, despite the fact that I'm imitated, he's really entertaining comedians in a way. Yeah, true. So, it's something that to me, like, these people, to bring that creativity out of it. So, despite the fact that, you know, as a co-op, we're not going to do a lot of stuff. But then it just brings the creativity aspect out of us. Now, if you look at it from the camera, culture, the way you move, the way you dance, the way you're imitated, there's no more. And truly, it changes. There's no more. Even these people, they just bring that, what can you make from it? Like, what the comedians are trying to say, that's the perspective I'm talking from. In short, you don't have to pay attention to it. Like, you can, like, you can be like, this thing in a different angle. Yeah. So, it was giving out a speech, and then I found this kid. This kid, as he was criticizing, these things accounted itself to make Kenyans laugh. Yeah. Yeah, so just bringing it from another aspect of life. What do you think? Mostly, we want to bring laughing out of serious things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When Attila is saying, Shares is on. It's very serious. Don't joke. True. It's very serious out. Like, the main thing of that, saying that she is supporting Azmi and everything, and she is serious about that. But now, as Soviet, you know, it's everything in this world. Let me say, everything is there. What we do is, we just alternate. You can say that I can write a mountain book right now. Because of this, I'll be getting, I'll be having my references and my citations. So, the main thing is, there's a time when he was saying, Ruto is not helping him, and that, like, when you come to MIM, they're saying Uru is crying. Now, they have that effect. Now, Uru is crying. You're not helping me. Something like that. Uru seems like a person who has to cry, but it's really serious. Yeah. So, generally, as comedians, the serious ones, the big ones, no, maybe they're growing ones. I mean, something is not seen, but the big ones are... The big ones are the same fathers of comedy. Yeah. Can I... Is he a father of comedy? Yeah. He's a comedian, that's all. He's a G. So, but generally, there's a time when he was imitating Uunye, every time after finishing a speech, when he starts touching the mic. Yeah. Now he has to complain. Like, they make it a way that those are very serious people, like, really imitate them, really want their... These people make their wealth. Like, they really want to be like one day like them. Like, that's financial stability. Now, such people when they're on social media, what we try to do is follow them. Obviously, we must just follow them. Naturally. Yeah. Because we must learn from them. We must learn from them. The educated ones will say they take the education part, but now we must just bring comedy in it. Do you think it's celebrated enough in Kenya as in comedians are highly revered or an appendosana? It's lukewarm, lukewarm, from your experience, even as you said you're a scriptwriter. Yes, in a couple's comedy, like, it's still a growing one. They say you work hard. It's only by hard work that you'll make it. Nobody will bring a plate onto your table. That's the fact. You must go get it. So, celebrations. Mostly, I can say, from what I've learned and I've seen what other, like, Churchill show, you have started to raise people up, like I'm seeing him holding the hand of the comedians. It's really nice. In part of the celebration, it all depends on how you're known. Like, when I'm with you, that's the fact. So, nijina. Nijina, for instance. It was a celebration that was with you. That's the fact. Okay. Final one. Do you think you're celebrated, even in your journey and your experience, do you feel like, umepata, your aspect, like, you make warahisi, as you look up to the fathers of comedy I mentioned, Churchill. Ah, yes, I call it ahisi. So, it's just a matter of just kupanda, until you get a point, now, at least, you can see that platform. Yeah, I do. Because, after all, they started from somewhere. Now, it's just a matter of doing this thing, you do it consistently. Until they notice this person is not going to give up, because a lot of people are in our level, and then, after some time, they fade off. So, until they see now, this person is not giving up, it's not giving up any soon. Now, you come to the family, something of this sort. So, it's just a matter of some few steps. You get there, and now, like, a point, then, you'll try to feel now, these people are one a kua, one a jaliwa, now, an appendu. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Konele aspect, kutaka instant gratification, umanzatu kohandika jokes, juzi juzi, umanzatu kohandika jokes, do you think it's something, do you think you can have instant gratification and be famous in a day, now, pendu kila maali, as compared to, like, taking ten years in writing? We have social media, technology is there. The tiktok girl may not be there, but now, he's viral. Of course, people will remember him. Do you think it's easier with social media? Okay, to some point, yes, I don't know. Yeah. Because, Babu, you never know, you're like, you never know what people are going to love. Okay. Okay, as a scriptwriter and as a content creator, would a great content, you make a bomb, or a team, you make a check, access it, you could feed it. Giving it to the people. What the fuck? What was this? Like, it's not that much into them, as it was to you. Yeah. So, you could hang with somebody knowing that I'm going to, to be viral. Okay. And then, my brother, like, when we create things, I could do this, this thing, and I could go viral. So, you're just creating out of... You're creating something... Unbelievable. One a year later, this thing now going viral. So, you never know when it's going to happen, but surely, when you don't give up, it's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. So, you never know, it's going to happen, it's going to happen, it's going to happen. And if I shoot a video, you'll be like, you're not going to love me. So, I struggle, I struggle, then I start talking to you, you're too much, it clicks you up. So, it's just a matter of time. As you stick on that one, you tell me one of the craziest comedy lines I'm a Muslim and I create modes and then I'm about to check out the audience as I come to you. The craziest one, the craziest line. The craziest line? Running out of time. We had to wear ourselves like women, then we slide to the stairs. But mostly I do couples things. I was even thrown into water just to bring the comic theme. There's a time when we shoot a video of women in the club. They know what's going on in the club. Nowadays they also do the shako shako thing. You think that was funny? It's a video, so it's funny. It's a video, it's on YouTube. That was your last one? The one you went to and you felt like he was coming. As you wind up. I'll mention, I have a lot of them. I have around 63 videos. This is just from real life. You're in a relationship. I imagine so much in relationships. You're with your girl there. If you're a lady you can work with her. And then your relationship is a bit private. When you're in a relationship, you're in a relationship that's open. When you're in a relationship, you're open. You make a status. You make a Facebook, Twitter. You make it everywhere. If you're in a relationship, you're open. You're open. You're open. You're open. You're open. It's just not done. It's just not done. It's not done. I don't know if it's funny but I feel like it is. I know that it's funny but I feel like it's funny. That's my personality. You've experienced it? I've experienced it. we are out of time and continue sending your feedback on hashtag why in the morning remember we had asked you a question of the day what are some of the craziest things, craziest warnings, not even craziest warnings than your Kenyans do not like obeying and keep your feedback coming and I think we'll end this conversation here and in just a bit we are back with much more.