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Yeah, she came back last night and Yeah, so she she definitely lowered let her hair down a bit up there with with her girlfriends So did they party? Yeah. Yeah, they partied. I guess one of her friends brought everybody like a case of Champagne and so she'd like she like four or five cases of champagne up there. Oh my god. Oh my god Did you even make a dent in that? I guess they made a dent? And so I was like, I really hope that you guys used some of the Zeba Whole case of those up there. Yeah And the first night they didn't and it was just like just slow going and dragging ass and all that and so I actually You know, she totally forgot about it. And then the next night, you know, they did it It was like it was it was a game changer, especially for her friends that had never even heard of it before I didn't even know that was an option. It was just like that's happened to me twice now Since we've been up there where we have it there and I forget to do it and I had almost was like It is it's like the most crazy magic Whatever I've ever had it's weird. In fact, so remember when we did that test all the three of us So maybe for you don't know this. It was a while ago. I don't know. What do we do that? It's on Instagram. It is right? It was like a year ago. Maybe. Oh, yeah And we did a drinking test to to introduce this new partner Zebiotics, right? So people don't know it's a it's a genetically modified Probiotic, but it's modified to to help break down that like the negative Shit that alcohol produces in your body that causes all those those effects of you know, like headache and feeling like garbage and bad stomach And all that stuff, right? So so to in order to launch this we did this drinking game And we saw the rules of the drinking YouTube, right? It's got to be there Yeah, and the rules were we thought it would go too slow, which was a big mistake We're like, let's make it a little faster and make it We can get to the point. We did a drinking game. This is not what a fitness podcast you do Shot after shot after shot after shot take another shot you forgot to jump Bro that was the most drunk I've been in at least over a decade do not do what we did I don't think we anticipated getting that destroyed that was way overboard But here's the trippy part and this is a hundred percent true. I don't feel nauseous I don't have a headache. I don't feel dehydrated at all. I feel totally fine. It's absolutely brilliant It's so brilliant that I actually worry that it's gonna increase people's how much people drink. What's there? What's their tag? Have you seen their tagline? It's a drink like there is it tomorrow? 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Yeah, that's not good punishment isn't quite a severe So when she comes home and she tells you about all that she tell you like details or is it like we had a good time Well, yeah, well, yeah, it's like somewhat It's interesting to hear how they party, you know, it's different cuz it's like it was like six like women that You know a lot of them had been just like stuck, you know at home with like taking care of you know Family members and like there's one of the one of the her best friends was like they're like home schooling and like going through The pains of that and like Courtney as well It was like just this sort of release that they all shared together And so they I mean that I think that's why they went a little ham You know with with the drinking but they all it was funny because like so they stayed there And then they're like, you know baking and like, you know, like the shitty food makes its way in there and all that stuff Yeah, she she was like, yeah, I got I dabbled a little bit, but yeah, they didn't really go anywhere per se They just like we're seeing they're just talking and having a good time Well, did she know we have the like the security camera? I know I would have messed with her Turn the cameras off just so you know, yeah, how many how many how many girls are up there? I think there was six Yeah, oh wow quite the party. Oh, yeah, I saw that a good time I saw a lot of mail delivery guys showing up About the cop showed up a few times I was wondering Firefighters male delivery guys showing up. I know Strange you're playing single dad today, too, right? Don't you have your wife took off over to Jessica went to because her family her mom saw the baby when he was first born and that's it And so she now gets to see the baby and her Nana hasn't seen the baby So she went over there So it's just me and the older kids, but you know the older kids are the older So once your kids get to a certain age, they're easier In some ways and harder in other ways, right? They're easier because more hands off, you know They can if they want to make themselves lunch they can they do the homework no big deal Harder because you have less control over them, especially when they're teenagers But it's like I'm like, you know when you have a like a young kid It's like you got to be there all so it's not it's not like being a single dad. It's just easy Cake I mean I imagine that part's kind of a headache though, right because you have to probably your schedule has to revolve around there It's because they need to be shuttled everywhere, right? Yeah, how much longer till your boy gets his license? How old is he right now? He's 15 So he'll turn 16 in July. Oh, wow. Yeah, okay. What's it? What are the what's the permit process now? It's I know your license when you're 16, but you're not allowed to drive with anyone else in the car That is not I believe over 21 with a license. Okay, so now how do they okay? That means he can't like drive around with friends. Okay. There's no way that's going down in high school. Yeah, no way, bro That's why nobody gets their license. That's one of the reasons. Yeah, cuz you're like you what's the use right? You would roll with your buddies for sure. Yeah, so I feel like totally do that So, okay, is that is that what's happening is that kids are just like effort? I'm not gonna get my license anyways till I turn 21 or whatever I think it's when you're 18 Yeah, I think it's 18. Yeah, no, no, he can't drive with anybody over 20. Maybe you're right I think what the what I remember it is if the or I recall it was is that when you get you can get your license at 16 You can only have you can only drive nobody else nobody else in the car any age I think it's just you right. No, I think somebody else, but they kept to be older Oh, they have to be over 21. That's maybe that's what it is and then when he's over 18 Then anybody could be in the car. How do you not even know these rules? You have a son. That's 15 I don't know bro. I mean They change them all the time. You know one thing I do know is that these rules have reduced fatalities. Oh, yeah You can well I didn't okay. Yeah, but yeah, I Jen Attributes that to just less kids. Yeah, just less kids having their license. Okay, they wait till they're like 20 I'm always nervous with the young kids on the road. Oh, let's all be honest though Okay, we all have to be very objective and honest here. Okay. I know our kids I was I was a terrible okay when I was 16 in the car I thought I was good. I drove like an asshole when I was by myself But I drove like a way bigger asshole when my friends were in the car. Oh, yeah, I think about the shit you did Oh, really? Did you were you come on? I drove like an asshole. I agree with that But I I think I was more risky by myself. Really? Yeah, I wasn't now my friend I was piling my friends in you know, there's no seats for them. They're just like laying down in the back Oh, I used to fishtail on purpose to make the sides of the back Of the car dude, I would go off-road. I did not have an off-road vehicle. I just did it Oh, dude, I did this one. This is fun. This is terrible. I was a horrible admission. This is so stupid I would we would drive down so you go down towards Morgan Hill There's these roads that there's not like street lights or whatever right these long roads Yeah, and you drive and just to scare the shit out of whoever I did do that I turned the lights off and you can't see you're driving in blackness And whoever the first person to speak up is the loser You don't know what's in front of you. You can find you know, whatever Idiots you've really dumb ideas. Yeah, so it works. I think it works dude Because you know think about it when you're with your buddies and your boys like, oh, I dare you drive over the curb Oh my god, that's great. So you're more likely to be an idiot Yeah, but has has overall fatalities and accidents gone down or is it just in that age group because obviously that Fatalities overall have gone down because of the advances that they've made in car protection Which is that's actually a big one cars are a lot safer now than they used to be right But even when you control for that, I believe in the young age group There's been a bigger drop because and they think it's because of these laws and you can compare I don't think it's the same in every state, right? I think in some states They don't have that so you can compare that or whatever But they're saying that that made a big difference. Anyway, nonetheless He has to do this like 30 hour online. So funny. He's so my son, right? He's got to do a 30 hour permit test and He's I'm like, what are you gonna do? Just leave it on and go do stuff, you know It's just so it's for 30 hours. No, you got to click on stuff while you're doing it He's like, they've thought of everything He's already tried to hack it. Yeah, I tried dad. He's like, I gotta sit here for 30 hours Do this whole time I was gonna pay a kid just to push the button. Yeah, I know what I would have done I would have been like turn it on I'll go watch TV Do you guys remember the price? So if I remember that we used to have to do like this I think six hours of with driver's ed and then you had to do that too and then you had a written test And that was it. Yeah, you gotta do that it you gotta do the test You gotta take a class then you gotta take a written test get your permit then you got to do the driving Instruction. Yeah, then you go take the test that the drivers. It was hilarious I remember being in that like in the back and I like one of my other friends were there And it was just so boring and you know, you're watching What's that one video the road the red red? Yes, yes Exciting 1970 you could watch but the whole time is funny because like they have the same book So they've had like for decades and people like just make little drawings There like so we're going through looking at everybody's drawings and like like crazy like stuff that they're saying in there And then we're adding to it those those videos are designed to scare you scare the hell out of you Yeah, they'll be like and you know, this is what happens when someone doesn't work Do they still do that and I feel like the you know, the fragility of these kids these days I couldn't handle exactly what I was thinking because I remember watching you guys watch these They would show like the dude's head bashed open brains every brain splatter on on the road like I was like No way what what are those class classes called when you get a when you get a ticket and you can get it Expunged from your record by going to it. What's it called? Oh? traffic school traffic school. Have you guys ever gone to traffic school? Do you guys okay, so my first name basis Okay, so I do you remember your first experience you go in traffic schools I remember mine and what I remember that was so fucking bad So I don't know if this hustle still happens back when I was a kid and you get tickets This was what they used to do so it's all online now So oh really yeah, which so you you had to go in person for eight hours And it was very competitive There was tons of traffic schools and they all had these things like Comedy and traffic school. Yes pizza and traffic school to compare. Yes. Yes. They still do that So I was like this is cool. I get to go. I did comedy pizza and traffic school I was so excited to go like it was going to be like entertainment. So lame so not I remember somebody raised their hand about like 30 minutes in and going like wait a second Where's the comedy? Where's the comedy and pizza and the guy's like well pizza comes at 12 and I'm the comedian And it was so the guy was you suck the guy was dry as fuck It was all a gimmick just to get you to sign up. Yeah, because they were competitive There were so many of them and he tells a joke with like as he's teaching the class which is dry as hell Now, I don't know if this is a thing anymore But did you guys figure that because I got so many tickets as a kid? I mean, I've told this before but my my car insurance I couldn't get my car insured anymore the only car I could get insured under was my dad's 1978 working van Because car insurance companies were like hell no, we're not insuring that kid You've got a million tickets or whatever. Uh, so it was it was really really bad, but I forgot where I was going with that Anyway, we talked about our ticket stories before because I I had I had four in a year and when you get four Get points. No, they they they spend you for a year. Oh, yeah So you can only get you can get three. Yeah three in a year the fourth one You're suspended for a year after that and I got four within a year And so I went to fight it It was my like only hope and I showed up and the cop didn't show that's what I was gonna say That's what I was gonna say that was a hack that I figured out Where yeah, it was a 50-50 shot. They show up. Yes. You should fight everyone. Yeah, you get a ticket and you say Oh, yes, I want to I want to dispute it You'd show up cop wouldn't show up and they either have to take it away or if the cops shut up Nine out of ten times they reduce the the cost So it's a $200 ticket Especially if you had a decent case right if you had some one of a case or what like that They would reduce it. You know what you know what tickets I had I had three of them and they got expensive Carpool, you know carpool right the minimum that just went up again. So what is it now? 450 yeah, okay. So when I was driving it was $267 for one every time you had one that would double Yeah, so go to 500 then it would go up to a thousand or whatever that was one that I got Yeah, I fought one. I remember because when I went to Chicago Um, I still had my california plates and so I was like just a target, you know, like they love everybody hates california Yeah, and so I was like driving, uh, you know in this like southern part of illinois And I was I was passing this car was going like super slow and like the It was a broken up Line and then it got to like double yellow like right as I like pulled in this cop was coming the other way and saw And the the part where I was like, no, I got to fight this like he stops me. I'm like, okay Yeah, you know, you got me. I guess whatever he was like, oh, yeah, and you're not wearing your seatbelt And I was like wearing my seatbelt. I'm like, well, you mean I'm not wearing my seat But you weren't wearing your seatbelt. You just put it on and he was like bullying me Saying that like I didn't have my seatbelt on and I'm just like, no, dude Like I had my seatbelt on the whole time And so I had to go to show up in court to like fight the charges Thankfully, so what makes what makes the cop be like that, right? So I I've always wondered what makes it Well, no, here's it. So I've had some I just the last actually ticket that I got which was a few years back I want to say it's about four or so years. I don't know maybe like three years ago I gotta I should have got a speeding ticket I was driving out to see my buddy out in the country Up like where I used to grow up And we were moving and I was doing like 90 to 100 just country road nowhere and sure shit There was a chp. Yeah, and he pulled me over Um, and I was like, oh man, yeah, totally got me type of deal and this is a country road I've driven on forever and we're in a hurry to get back whatever super cool guy gives me like a I think like a driver's license ticket because he knew that I and I didn't have my driver's license on me But I was polite to him and that's all he gives me he lets me go Then you can get in another situation where a cop will like take you to the to the mile an hour over If you are going 20 miles an hour over you can it's speeding plus reclet like it's uh Whatever the mood there is. Yeah, and they can how they write that ticket Determines how big that fine is going to be And I always wondered like and I'm I'm consistent like I'm always apologetic and I'm sorry And I always try and come up with some fucking legitimate good excuse for why I'm driving that Poop, you know, whatever right like I'm bees in here. Yeah, and you just you never know what you're gonna what you're gonna get And so I'm always wondering I want like one of my cop buddies to break it down to me Like what what makes you determine whether you're gonna give this guy a slap on the wrist because you got to pull Over and what makes you like I'm sure your reaction how you talk to them it matters But I think what matters more is like what happened in the morning, you know what they're doing with them Yeah, like his wife walked out on him, you know, you're about to get fucked if you get pulled I got pulled over I did a burnout at a stop light and I got pulled over by two cops two different cars I was a kid the dude pulled me out of the car slammy on the hood Put my hands behind cuff me and my cousin tried to get out of the car Fucking dude pulled his gun out and I'm gonna get in the fucking car. What yeah, dude, and I was like Are you serious having to be in Milwaukee now? Here's what I'm thinking I'm thinking in my head that they see a car with four kids and you know I was mean my girlfriend my cousin his girlfriend. I bet you they're like, oh, let's have let's fuck with these kids Let's teach this kid. So I feel like that's what it was. Why is he slamming on the hood on the of the car You know kicking my legs apart and then he's giving me a lecture I felt like you're trying to like scare me straight or something Uh-huh, you know because that's the only explanation I have how many times have you like peeled out of like turns and things when you're like younger I do I used to do that all the time Yeah, I did that I did that in an undercover got me so it was uh in front of me was this blue suburban Right and we're in a neighborhood He comes out of the stop sign. So he's now he takes off a stop sign. I get ready. I pop the clutch on my entire I just roast him up big old smoke cloud He throws that he reaches in and throws a freaking siren on top of his hood and then and then pulls me over Detective yeah street clothes And I like as a kid back then I'm like, I don't know what he can and can't do to me He's scared to shit out of me. He's gonna haul me off to give you the jail Did you buy that at some like Just put it up there. Fuck with you. Well, that's what we were thinking that when sal said that they were probably just messing with I thought this guy probably wasn't even a copy just fucking That'd be the ultimate So I used to he's probably a dad who lives in the neighborhood. He's pissed off Fuck this little kid. I'm gonna buy one on ebay But back before cell phones were a thing right used to be able to buy like these these like gaff like gifts or whatever And there was just this light that you push and it would make the siren sound and it'd go red and blue light, right? So so I bought this and I was waiting I was waiting for my cousin to do some great He's always that right? He always burn out or do something stupid. Yeah, so he did that and he just had some wheat So he's already paranoid, right? So it does that so I'm in the back seat. I hit it. Oh my god They're not gonna get me like slams on bro Because he couldn't see where the car was because it was no car. I was the best five minutes of my life Just to do that. Wow Those were the days, you know, I feel like yeah, there's not a lot of that these days. That's probably a good thing Yeah, we were reckless. Yeah, it's it was after I had my son my my oldest that it switched Totally switched all of a sudden I was totally aware of driving like a jerk now I'm at the age now where I'm the guy who sees it in everyone else Like I could see a kid do that like oh that kid Mine lasted longer. I was all the way through college. I was like, you know, kind of an asshole You know, I mine was when I got a lifted truck So when I got a lifted truck, I realized how fucking reckless and fast I was going in the car The car doesn't feel fast. I drive that thing around 150 miles an hour all the time all over the place Then I get this big old lifted truck you drive 80 miles an hour in a truck like that and it feels like you're going 80 miles an hour Yeah, and I remember going like, oh my god, this is kind of scary to drive this fast It slowed me way down and made me realize god I am driving that reckless going that fast in that car Have you guys ever had a scare like so like one time? I was with my cousin and we were racing our cars together on the freeway and it was always we were just We're so competitive that basically it would always turn into a game of chicken It wasn't even who has a faster car It was who's more willing to risk their life, right because at some point we're all we're going 140 miles an hour And the guy who takes off the brake first ends up being a loser So this is just it got dangerous and we would do this And then our turn came up and I was in front of him and I'm getting So I'm slowing down to get on the turn. Well, he wants to get in front of me. So he doesn't hit the brakes yet He goes around to try and pass me Me being competitive stayed in my lane didn't let him come into my lane Well, he fucking swerved and I see him go off the road and I see dirt and mud Fly everywhere and I swear to god. I thought he died, right? So I pulled over and I'm like just I'm shaking or whatever Run over there and luckily he was flying the car spin He's standing outside of his car and then we hug each other, you know and then after we hugged each other We let go and then we start laughing now Do you do you think that we're all just young and dumb or do you think that we're naturally wired this way? Like the it's we have cars now, but go way back Was it you would take risk when you were out hunting probably when you were a teenage boy taking the chariots out I'm serious though. I'm serious like it's not this is a common theme with young teenage boys It's not like we're it's you know, none of us grew up in the same town We all have these crazy stories that we're sharing and we talk like this I know plenty of kids that were more drawn to risk 100% Well, that's what I mean I do think that you think that we're wired that way and it just seems crazy because this machinery now that we can Drive 120 miles an hour, but it didn't matter even if there wasn't cars We'd find other ways to risk our lives at that age 100% Okay, if you so then the question is and then this I'm reading that the coddling american mind They talk about this like you know part of what's going on in our society is the result of the the helicopter parent Being so protective of their kids. Does that go through your head as fathers? Like okay, I know I did way riskier scary shit than this like for example. I mean just yesterday Max is outside. Okay. We have this backyard. It's literally a big sandbox. There's nothing in it There's not a sharp thing. There's nothing he could climb on There's and I walked in the house to like blow my nose and she's like you can't see max I'm like so like he's fine. I'm literally gonna walk right back out and she's like, yeah, but you can't see him I'm like so he's gonna drown in the sand. Yeah You walk out there's upside down He's gonna be fine for 45 seconds that I walk in the house. They'd come back You know like but we've I don't know we've become so over protective like that You think we're doing more harm than good when that's a good question. It's a hard question, right? Yeah, I remember like I went through that too like Even having the kids now they can ride their bikes, you know themselves and like go a little further and go Out and explore and I'm like how far do I want to let them explore and then I'm just like, you know what? I have to let them do it and it like eats at me a little bit because I know there's blind turns and there's like cars on the road and there's all these like Factors that like you'll scare the fuck out of me. It's uh, okay So if you this is easy anything that is That you think is stupid like that's people do right when you see it on youtube and you think that's Idiot, what it that's a stupid thing to do 99 percent of time. It's a man or it's a guy We're wired to take more risk. Now. What's the value of that in in society innovation? Well risk. Yeah risk taking leads to Innovation it leads to discoveries. It also leads to more deaths It also leads to more drug abuse alcoholism and other crazy stupid stuff So it's definitely part of of of male dna in general But of course on when you go down to the individual it can very Dramatically but again, look at all the craziest sports, right? You're gonna see that the craziest things the craziest risks Gambling the craziest risks with business the craziest risks with Working at like an oil rig or something, you know, it's like there's there's needs for that kind of behavior This is also why I think something goes viral like eating tidepots Because you have parents that are probably like hey kid can't go take his bike too far Kid can't go across the street to the park. What am I gonna do right? So they can't do anything outside. We're we're protecting them so much They live in this bubble so they find something in their house So let's fucking eat tidepots put tidepots in our mouth and see how dangerous that is It is weird like we're so we're such animals sometimes right like rebel Like think about like think about the stupid risks that you would take as a kid and just the exhilaration It's like it's exciting. I just did this thing Even if you got hurt there were risks that I took that didn't necessarily pay off But it was still like oh that was great. You know, I was I was exhilarating Right, right. So I think knowing that you're a little this is why I remember had that conversation about raising boys and girls And we're like, oh, you know, it'd be hard or whatever Guy with boys you got to be careful if they have that that strong risk taking gene Oh boy, man, you know, it's more they're more likely to do this stupid It's funny. I talked about like I said last time that you know, they're more likely to jump off the roof into a pool I got like 10 dms from guys. Oh dude. I did that. I jumped off the roof Yeah, yeah, we were doing back flips off that and we're at somebody else's right of passage We did that at we did that at how stupid is this right? This is in high school On my ex-girlfriend at the time had flown to michigan for a week and a half She asked me to come there and check on the dogs and feed the dogs while they were gone And we I threw a massive party and we're doing flips off the fucking house Yeah, bro, like could you be any stupider than that? But I again, I feel I feel like we It's like wired in us to do things like that What's the biggest risk like category that you would take when you were younger? Like was there a cat like was it with stuff with your car? Was it with your body? Was it, you know Is there something that you were I would say both like so I I did all the stories we're talking about right now with Driving and there's so many more. I'm not going to waste everybody's time Listen, you know the dumb stories I did is driving around in the fog and shit like that But I also that's what I was drawn to snowboarding and wakeboarding like was like in control Yeah, I would I would go hit a jump that is just way beyond my skill level and figure it out in the air You know and crash. I mean, I just you took risks like that at that age where now I'm just totally I mean, yeah, we would and that's why I was drawn to these full contact sports and things like it's just like We would test our toughness, you know, it's like how tough are you waking? What can you handle and it was just always this this pecking order thing and it's like, you know Who's the biggest guy, you know, you know line me up and then we'd have drills And we would just hit the shit out of each other to see what happened. Oh, dude I I got a pair of boxing gloves and I was 15. So what did my me and my buddy do? Let's see you can literally this is what we did. Let's see you can take the hardest punch It wasn't let's box and defend ourselves. Well, you was you go first Yeah, and let me see if I could take you have to think that this is how they used to do it back Like to decide who is going to lead this tribe We'd have to fight it out or figure it out Who's going to be the leader? You'd have all these these men who think they're going to dominate this tribe and run and be the head of it There's only one way to figure it out. You know what I'm saying? We got a battle we got to figure out who's time. Yeah words are cheap That's just changed now There's other ways that we can measure like they didn't have wakeboarding and snowboarding and fast cars to drive 120 miles an hour So they probably just wrestled on the ground and fought each other They were like, let's go see you can get that gazelle from that line right there because we need to eat right now Really though wants to do that Justin. Oh, you're the leader. Yeah If you survive You'll be the leader no more No, that's all that's all funny. I say I took a lot of risks with supplements I would study supplements especially when I got into stimulants And then it was just a fucking chemistry fund for me and see what happened. I'm telling you more than a couple times I would lay in bed Like thinking praying like okay like help me get through this Heart pounding moment because I want don't want my mom finding me here with a heart attack There has to be some good though to this right there has to be some I'm serious There has to be some positive to that because it make okay. Well, we're all entrepreneurs I was just to say what is scarier driving in the fog 120 miles an hour racing your buddy or starting a new business I mean, let's be honest the worst thing that happens when you start a new business is it fails It doesn't work. You gotta start over and you work really hard like that's like yeah, you're driving the fog You died. Yeah, exactly So I think that if you if I don't know if you if you do things like that Then other things in life. I think just seemed so, you know small in comparison. I think entrepreneurs probably I would guess I don't know what the statistics are, but I would guess the more they lean more towards that risk taking kind of behavior Um, yeah, because I mean you're you're you know, what are the quotes around entrepreneurship? Like an entrepreneur is somebody who's willing to work 80 hours a week to avoid working 40 hours a week You know, I mean, it's like half the time people don't know this entrepreneurship in particular has been glorified in recent years because of Uh, you know technology and media so lots of people are starting their own businesses But usually what it looks like is this you're an entrepreneur and you make shit for five years And you work a lot of hours for five years and you make a lot of mistakes for five percent fail Yeah, 80% fail. You know, I think that it's been over glorified the last decade I feel like there's a lot of people that have no business doing it man I think it's a lot of people. You got nothing going on. You can always label yourself an entrepreneur It's like, you know the fallback It's like only only fans I sell urban online entrepreneur. Yeah, I do online. I do a multi-level marketing means I'm unemployed Yeah, you ever get those messages from one old friend in high school. Hey, adam How you doing? I haven't talked to you for a long time. By the way, I'm having this party. We're going to talk about this opportunity Right away Our herbal life, this is this is going to be an herbal life speaking of supplements adam You seem very zippy. Yeah, did you what did you do? Well? I did the so this morning I did our I did our pre-workout. Well, here's one I have a nice, you know drive to get here this morning. And so I get a chance to like really wake up I got to Stimulate my brain by listening to an audiobook then I get here I have our pre-workout and then before we podcasted today I did I hadn't had the pure in a while and so I did the Organified pure with a theanine and I feel isn't that nice. It is nice It's a great Combination with caffeine because it's non-stimulant. I love it like you said after the caffeine dose Like it's perfect to kind of keep it going. Yes, because I I don't want to throw any more caffeine on top Otherwise, I'll be stimulated all all night and then I'm almost jittery And I don't feel as sharp on the podcast where if I back off the caffeine do something like pure and theanine in there It mellows me out, but then still keeps me mentally. Yeah, too much stimulation is not a good thing It doesn't increase performance. It actually in fact tomorrow. I'm going to be reading I'm doing the audio version of the book that you know that I put together a row Sal's own sexy voice Yeah, it's going to be great, but actually it's I'm actually not looking forward to I've never read out loud that long I don't know if I'm going to stumble over my way. So I was thinking about this. What can I take and do? We should bring a bunch of kids in here to just like sit and be like, you know, like you're reading them a story No, then I'll start doing like story voices And resist this training But anyway, it's so I'm like do I do more stimulants So and I realized that the probably the best thing to do is to take things to balance me out because if I'm Over stimulated it's going to be fast-talking jumbled words and I'll miss things So I'm going to do the pure also with all that I imagine tonight too You'll probably put a lot of effort into making sure you get a really good night's rest You don't probably over stimulate. Yeah, but I don't want to overthink it. Here's what happens to me when I start to overthink stuff Then I'm too Natural as possible. Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. You know, whatever not that big of a deal Anyway, I read an article on fitness trends for 2021 predictions to be where we're getting right for physical. So we talked about this a while ago So well, here's a so here's yes. First of all, we got a lot of things right with our predictions but I'm going to pull it up because Uh, very this is what's interesting about so there were nine fitness trends for 2021 out of the nine One, let me see. I'm going to count them all two three I believe seven if I'm not mistaken. We know no seven out of the nine are all related to working out at home Of course, so it's so basically Well, that's gonna say that's not a very good prediction. That's too easy. Well, let me go over what some of them are So like one of them is like, you know, uh home, you know, workout equipment. So a big one was like Home gyms. So here here's one poll that said that 75 of people now want to work out at 75 So that's gone up. Yeah, that was it. I remember it was 50 50 then I remember it was like 60 40 now 75% yeah, and the money people invested to PRX has to be Did you see they sent an email out they were talking about their They have to increase rates because of the overwhelming amount of people that are trying to buy equipment And they're trying to service huge and get it to people as fast as possible Which means they got to hire and bring more people on it's not going to go down Here's my advice to you if you're thinking about getting home gym equipment Do it now because it's going to continue to get more expensive before it flattens out for sure And that's what I'm reading here. There's apps for minimal minimal equipment exercise exploding So apps that that tell you how to work out without much equipment. I just noticed on my apple tv I'd never noticed before the you know on your you have the uh, I watch whatever right, you know the little health Simple thing like it looks like a rainbow circle or whatever. Yeah, you close your circles That's now on apple tv And so now and i'm sure they probably are having all kinds of exercise videos and stuff on there that you can People is going to keep going with that stuff with the tracking and the metrics like the they're going to go crazy Watch it all happen and it's going to be on your tv in real time You're going to have like all this data like being shown. It's going to be cool So I'd love to bring this up with you guys and see what your guys' thoughts are I know I have my opinion but with this explosion of people more interested in working out at home Explosive explosion of home workout equipment apps that teach you how to work out in your own solo fitness Treadmills all the stuff that you do at home and the interest going up Do you think this is going to increase? People's consistency with workouts increase the amount of people that are working out Or do you think because less people are going to gyms? It's going to decrease or do you think it's not going to have any effect at all? I think it'll decrease you think it'll go down I think because what it's doing is it's it's an an easier uh entry level right it's easier access They are making it. I mean look how it was so simple that if I was somebody Last night i'm clicking on apple tv There's that I could have just I could be a total couch potato and I go. Oh, what's this click on that? Oh, this is interesting. Let me try it So I think you're going to get more and you have things like is that any different than signing up for a gym membership Of course they never go to no no no Yes, it is different why it's so different is and this is why I think we're going to see a decrease in people Seeing results and we're going to see an increase of more people falling off and less results is because More people are going to get involved or try things Which is only going to keep that percentage of the majority that fail Going to the gym, okay It used to be part of my presentation someone would come there and I'd say you did the hardest part You got here today. You just got your car and you got here. You're just trying to sell them. Well, yeah, but still Doesn't matter bro. We I knew that line right right But I mean to drive to the gym and get there you've you've you've already had that conversation and battle back and forth Oh, I'm gonna do tomorrow. They got there right solidified your decision Clicking on an app and downloading it like and by the way which on apple is so easy You just double click your face and now you bought it for 599 Sure It's so easy that we're gonna see I think a flux of people come in but results Well, I just know human behavior right you get the treadmill and then it ends up being like, uh, you know The place you rack all your clothes on, uh, and you just see that all the time with home driven type fitness Stuff but like honestly, I don't know like I it to me it may be initially it's like that But I I do see like the convenience of it like if people are really concerned about their health now because of this crisis You know it could increase. I think it's gonna increase I think I I I disagree with you adam completely I think people working at my experience The most consistent non-fitness fanatic people So I got to take a get a Carve off all the fitness fanatics because they're consistent no matter what you give them a gym Don't give them a gym whatever, you know guys like us they're gonna work out Which by the way is most people listening to this podcast Okay, but if you take the if you take the time to listen to us talk for an hour and a half about fitness type bullshit You are not you guys already doing. Yeah, but but the average person Who needs to exercise in my experience people who make a routine working at home are more consistent than people who make a Routine go into the gym the statistics on gyms are terrible terrible the average gym the average person signs up Oh, I so I so disagree. Oh, no, no I think people having equipment at home and learning the responsibility and on their own. It's simple. It's basic. It's easy It's right there You're basing that you're basing that off of you being a fitness fanatic yourself and having clients that are paying for Personal training that are coming in the average person. Okay, let me tell you What it looks like is they have a room and it has every tool It's out the Norda track the ab crunch thing the thigh master the and they got all these things that they got Sold on emotionally at one point in their life. They're they're like, oh my god. I feel terrible myself I need to buy this thing for $29.99 that's going to make my thighs look amazing They dry it for one week and then it sits there like anything else. I think that's just getting it's expanding There's more tools. It's getting more affordable. It's becoming easier and easier to access on your phone So you're going to see a flood of more people which is good for us, right? Because that gives us more opportunity to educate and help these people So I'm not complaining about that But the reality is I think it will drive results down because you'll have a flood of new people and their percentages are just It's all dependent on the program that they're they're being drawn to like how how easy it is for them to You know really start making that something that they can repeatedly do So, you know, if this could tap into that whole planet fitness kind of market where They the biggest drawback for them going to the gym was the judgment And they really nailed that with with that environment But if you can if you can provide them with something that's like easy and like, you know, is really intuitive At their house. I feel like that could well here. I think I okay. So adam. Yes, they're going to be people like that Okay, we're just talking about like percentage wise. I Look at here's a deal Is it easier? How many obstacles are there to go to the gym? I got to drive to the gym I got to show up got to see other people got to bring my gym back. I'm in the place where the other What about at home at home? I'm at home. I can just work out. Here's the other thing The reminder to work out when your equipment is at home is there the reminder when you're paying You're 15 dollar a month with this all day, dude It's okay It's easier to not do it because it's there and to put it off because it's only 30 seconds to walk out in your garage and do it if you made the commitment to get in your car and drive the Gym you're working out That's one of the things I loved about having a gym membership was that I knew if I could motivate myself to get to the Gym I was not going to turn back around and come back where when it's in the garage Okay, like my rower is right now collecting dust when it's in the garage and I'm going to walk down and I'm a fitness guy Okay, I have I have this tool that I use like crazy when I first got it. My rowing is boring. I know Hey working out lifting weights is boring for a majority. We happen to love it and find a passion around it I think what you're going to see is more people in the market, which is all good for us And I think that's a positive thing But initially I think we're going to see a decrease now I'm hopeful like Justin like I am hopeful that these tools are going to help me But here's the thing I think back to look at my fitness pal and fat secret are people eating better Yeah, and we have tools today that make it so I think it's so easy to track your food and figure out where you should or shouldn't be and I don't think that It's almost like yeah, you bypass the you don't have to learn any of it Yeah, and I can do and I'm going to I'm going to counter that no I'm going to counter that because uh first of all it's learning how to eat right is way more than just knowing calories and macros However, are people more aware of calories and macros today than they were when we were trained early trainers I believe so now as a percentage you might be right. Maybe it stays flat Who knows but a lot of it's a numbers game. Let's say Let's just say for argument's sake that because people are doing stuff at home And there's the enter into the market is much easier to get way more people involved Does that mean that the number of people that are consistent will go up? I think so. Oh the total number. Yeah all the I mean if all of a sudden you have a million new people flood in And 80 percent of them fail that 20 percent will still bigger. We'll still boost the number. Right. Oh, yeah, I'm not debating that That's obvious. All right, so I think I wouldn't think that we're going to increase by let's and we're just using You know fake numbers here a million new people come into all these apps and tools I don't think that the total number of success is going to go down. Of course, it'll go up It's the percentage that will go down. Well, I would like to look at Because it makes a big difference what they're getting and what they're like if they buy like a you know a thymaster I'm sure that the the success rate is crap, right? If they buy a prx Rack that folds in the wall with barbell and weights. I bet their success rate goes way out Okay, so I mean these are all different arguments and things that we can tease out right if you compared a person who bought prx versus somebody who bought a thymaster 100 percent the person that already understands that barbell weight trading Is superior and you should be doing that is probably going to see better results That's that's a no brainer and and there it's been there's been an explosion in these tech based home gym equipment things like Mirror or tonal or peloton, right now those way more success than your normal I'm going to buy a stationary bike or treadmill. Why I tune in and believe me I have family members that did not exercise because they would exercise a month here a month off whatever all of a sudden They're consistent. Why they turn on their peloton. They're in a class. Oh someone's just telling me what to do. It's a lot of fun You know what though? It's way more successful. I don't know though. Let's give that some time Yeah, let's give it some time There was a there was a there was a time when those recumbent bikes were brand new into people's houses And it was cool and it was like it was neat to have the novelty or yes I think the novelty of that will wear off because peloton is cool And I got all kinds of friends that are doing it right now and I'm watching all of them My cousins got one my two best friends have got them. You're waiting for them to fall Well, I'm not I'm not rooting for them to fall off But the reality is that it is it's novel it's neat. Oh, I can connect with my friend and meet them in a class Get back to me in about 15 months and tell me where that thing I would like to so I think the method makes a big difference for example We knew the numbers on success rate of members who worked with trainers versus members that didn't Stark difference. Oh, yeah huge difference when you work with a trainer your success rate quadruples and just And even just consistency quadruples, right? So we have to imagine that the way people are doing at home fitness Is going to matter do they buy weights? Does that make a difference over if they buy a treadmill? Is it interactive like peloton or mirror versus not being interactive and just being on your own Is it just an app I do on my phone that caught it was free versus something I invested $2,000 in right? So this is all going to matter. I can't wait to see all the no I agree and that way we agree on and I am hopeful like Justin like I do think that You know, we will get better with these tools There will be more interaction You got to think that you know a million random people completely trying to work out by themselves Because to your your trainer point Is inferior to those same million people or half of those, you know same people Getting a coach right like interacting virtually even though virtual coaching is nothing like in person and is nowhere as good It's still better than nothing, you know, so it'll help a massive amount Yeah, so, you know, I mean I'm I don't want to sound like I'm negative Or I think it's going to get worse or bad But I do think it I think we'll see the percentage of success initially below I'm hopeful that we'll we'll innovate and we'll do things to make it better But I don't know. I just think we have more cool. Shit that people can buy Well, the biggest the biggest thing is and this was brilliant Back in the day, the reason why home gyms were hard to compete with the gym Is because buying a home gym was a lot of money up front and I'm going to spend $1,300 or whatever to get this equipment. Whereas I could go to this gym. It was very invasive too Yeah, you took a lot of space. Yeah, you had to designate like a massive part of your house for it Yeah, so whereas I can go to the gym pay 100 bucks pay 20 bucks a month sounds easy And I don't have to take up a lot of space Well now like prx offers monthly payments Like a lot of these companies offer payments where you're like paying a gym membership and They're designing them to take up minimal space This is a new frontier. I think that the fit I think covet and the lockdowns Were really the impetus and they've caused a massive shift And I don't think it'll ever be the way it was before. I don't think it'll be like it is now I think jumps jim. That's why I'm hopeful too to Adam's point It's just I I feel like there's gonna be a lot more innovation driving because the market is so fresh and new and Green and I think that there's gonna be a lot of businesses that see that opportunity to really improve the the experience I can't wait to see. Yeah Our first caller is Seth from North Carolina. Hey, Seth. How can we help you? Hey guys, what's up? Um, I have been weight training for about two years now and I've I've definitely Put on a good foundational physique and built a quite a bit of muscle in that time But in the past like six months or so I've started rock climbing a whole lot um And what I'm trying to figure out is how I can supplement the rock climbing to continue like Pushing my performance to the next level with like strength and physique But also like a lot of the guys in my gym are very very skinny Um, and I am I am not that I'm a little more on the the broad shoulder stocky side And I didn't know if you guys had trained rock climbers before if you knew sort of some things that could help like supplement that training Yeah, that's a that's a great question. So I've trained. I trained two rock climbers in the past Now here's the deal with strength, right? So you can we can categorize strength a few different ways One way is to to categorize it as absolute strength Meaning the total amount of weight that you can lift like I can squat 300 pounds and then you know if I train real hard and I can squat 400 pounds My absolute strength has improved then there's relative strength and it's in relative strength is much more applicable to rock climbing And this is the strength that you have in relation to your body weight Okay, so let's just say for for argument's sake you were able to maintain your current level of strength You didn't go down at all, but you lost 30 pounds on the scale You'd be much stronger relatively speaking to your body weight and that would make you a much better rock climber So this is why when you look at uh, really really good rock climbers They tend to be Kind of skinny super lean wiry lean looking people It's because they're strong, but they're also very light. They have a lot of relative strength Then of course there's the obvious stuff, which is a lot of grip strength You also want you want to have really really good Shoulder hip and ankle mobility Your shoulder mobility is obvious. Obviously you're reaching above your head and you have to hang and that kind of stuff You also want to have really good hip and ankle mobility because The feet and the and you know when you're kicking your leg up you want to get up to a really really high You know foothold or whatever really good mobility is going to help So what does this mean for your workouts? Well, it means Being big and muscular is going to be a disadvantage. Uh, you want to be limber Strong and light and so that's the way you're going to want to you know, uh model your training set Do you have uh maps ocr? I do not Okay, so I think Doug you're gonna have to hook him up with that because I think this is what's this is a perfect program for What you're trying to accomplish and where and ocr obviously is is geared towards obstacle course racing But it's a lot of the attributes that you want as a rock climber Are going to fit perfectly in there and the only thing I would tell you is Uh, if you don't care about the running because there's a little bit There's quite a bit of running that's inside that program I would just supplement that out for my rock climbing And do your do that I've said and those that program should be perfect Yeah, there's a lot of emphasis on grip strength and they're in hand strength Which is like unlike the other programs specifically, but you know one other uh case that I was going to present that uh was more around like prime prime pro uh driven just because of what sal mentioned in terms of You know mobility, but like if you've ever done any kind of kin stretch where you've put heavy emphasis on isometric tension Uh in these positions where uh, you know, it's gonna be more advantageous to you to be able to connect even further down from your fingers to your toes and have Be able to you know stretch that capacity how much force you can generate in positions And uh, you know some of those moves in prime pro are fantastic for that So that's something that I would consider as well. Yeah, and set that have another question for you What is more important to you? Is it to look? Muscular and aesthetic, uh, you know kind of like more like a physique Competitor would look you go ahead and say me or say me Right Yeah, or are or is it more important to you that you do really well at rock climbing? Um, I would say that it's it's more important to me that I like maintain a Just a nice physique. It doesn't have to be like big and muscular like muscular like physique competitor wise So I I'd say the performance and getting better at rock climbing Okay, so if rock climbing is more important to you, um, then I would definitely focus on less on building mass especially in the lower body And more on building that kind of relative strength and strength Endurance for the lower body. I tell you what your split stance and single leg exercises are your best friend So I we talk about barbell squats all the time and how awesome they are But this is a case where I could easily make a case that you know single leg step-ups and Lunges and single leg deadlifts are probably going to be more You're going to get more carry over to rock climbing than you would with a barbell squat Cool All right, awesome. All right, man. Thank you, Seth All right. Thank you guys so much. Yeah, that's a that's a hard, uh, trade-off for people sometimes, right? Say they want to look a particular way, but then their sport requires them to look a different way It's just like what do I do? Yeah, there's a point where it kind of inhibits like what you're trying to do with your sport So you have to kind of balance that and see, you know, what is the priority there? Well, and if you're doing running rock climbing, you're doing a lot of cardio vascular things It's inevitable that you're probably going to lose some weight and lean out which a lot of times you'll lose a little bit of strength I mean, we were just talking about this morning off air I was saying how I needed to lean out the last week and a half or so I've dropped about five pounds of course a lot of that's water weight, but I dropped five six pounds And when it came back to incline dumbbell press today and I struggled with the weight that I moved relatively easy just a week and a half ago and What you have to understand is you can't freak out. You can't go like, oh my god I'm getting weaker week over week. It's I'm leaning out and back to your point, Salak It's all relative to my body weight So technically I'm as strong or stronger because I'm a smaller person this week than I was before I ran into this one. I was grappling a lot when I did judo or jiu-jitsu It's like I'm going to get big and strong in the gym and then I move up in a weight class Now I'm now I'm against the guys that are, you know, bigger and stronger and many of them bigger and stronger And easy in that weight class whereas I'd have to push my body lived in that way Exactly. So and this is how it is for a lot of different sports, especially one now some sports relative Strength is important, but not as important as overall strength. I mean if you're a lineman Uh, and you're playing football your body weight is also important. You're a big strong dude You don't want to be a smaller relatively strong dude You want to be a big absolute strong guy when you're on the line So it depends a lot on on what you want to do Our next caller is Alexis from New Jersey. Hey, Alexis. How can we help you? Hi guys, um, so I've been noticing that whenever I try to do an overhead press I struggle with that initial lift off like the front wrap position I was wondering if you guys have any tips for that. Yeah, good question. Super common, by the way, Alexis That's uh, that's the hardest part of the lift for most people Um, so there's nothing weird or wrong, uh with you know, how you're doing it or whatever Anytime you have a sticking point in a lift, uh, one of the things you could do is literally focus on That part of lift so with a overhead press with a barbell One thing you can do, um, is literally take the bar off the rack in the front rack position Press it up, bring it back down, rack it, wait five seconds Then do the same thing. The reason why you wait is because this gets rid of that, uh, that that build up of What's it called elastic strength that you build up when you lower a weight and then Press it back up. So what you're doing is you're constantly working on that dead stop Position of the press you have to go lighter when you do this But if you practice this often you should get better at that that particular part of the lift What's the most difficult part like is I know, uh, you know wrist mobility is a limited limiting factor to that in the rack position itself What would you say if you if you wanted to pinpoint sort of like where it's a struggle for you I would say just mentally like connecting to the fact that Okay, I'm getting ready to push this up now Like once the weight is moving up in the air and I'm ready to lock out like that's fine But just like the initial part like connecting to whatever muscles to get the weight up Oh, okay. I see. Um, have you ever worked with kettlebell? I was just gonna go that direction. Glad you did Not too frequently, but I do have some experience with them Okay, there's there's a few things and and I've I've gotten the guys into this like overhead carries But also just like in the rack position doing some carries just so you familiarize your body with that position Uh, and you know the the load itself being able to just You know like have control over that and embrace and be able to generate force in that position That's a good way to start really kind of familiarizing your body with that So the the way it's loaded. It's on the back side of your arm. So It's really conducive to pressing and overhead and doing sort of spiral type of presses That will really help to to get, uh, you know that rotational support and and Be able to stabilize the joint and you'll find that you get stronger as a result of just, you know working with A tool like the kettlebells itself. Alexis. How how good are you about priming your shoulders before you go do your shoulder press? Um, I actually make it a priority for sure. Um, I forgot the name of it, but when you take like a A stick or something and you kind of like rotate it Shoulder on the back of you shoulder dislocates So, yes, I do those is that is that the main thing that you do before you you prime the shoulders to go in Um, I kind of also do some like lateral raises with like two and a half pound plates And I also have resistance bands So I'll use like a light resistance band first and then go heavier and then eventually use a barbell Do you do you have access to a strap? I heard you're in a gym right now Do you have access to a strap like a like you know trx straps suspension trainers? Uh, my gym doesn't have that no so you can use your bands use the really light band and you know Do you know what a w looks like if you can totally go on youtube? I think we've done videos on this too and look up suspension trainer w's And you can do that same movement with a really light band I like doing that before I do any shoulder stuff Just because that that joint is a floating joint and getting all it primed the entire thing Doing just the shoulder dislocates. Sometimes people just get in the motion of going back and over And they're not really priming the priming the shoulder really well And doing a row to the w Really wakes up the entire shoulder and then I would do a movement like justin said like kettlebell presses And then with a little bit of weight and resistance and then go into your your shoulder press with the barbell and see how you feel after that Okay, sounds great. I'll definitely try that out. Yeah, alexis. I'm gonna I'm gonna back up what justin said I think carrying dumbbells or kettlebells in that bottom rack position and walking Is gonna probably help you the most I think Holding and staying tense in that position the key is not to Rest the kettlebell or the dumbbell in that bottom position But rather support it and stay tight and then walk for like 30 40 steps That tension that isometric tension is gonna build strength In that bottom position. I mean when he said that light bulb enough to say, oh, yeah, that would make a huge difference Yeah, and I I forgot this one more point If you're working your way back to the barbell itself just to get a nice tight grip with a fist grip And have some outward tension. So you're actually kind of pulling on the bar outwardly it creates that The body responds to it that the joint is more stabilized and so You're able to generate a bit more force. So just being able to pull out and create tension before you lift You're gonna feel a lot more comfortable pressing it overhead from there The other thing I would add to that is Making sure that right before you press you think about squeezing your glutes and your abs tight So you have a good solid base a lot of times people feel loose at the bottom because their core is not tense Before they press up and that instability in the core, which is your base and foundation of a press like that That's a lot of times the problem. So right before you press up Think about squeezing your glutes like if you're doing a hip thrust squeeze your glutes and tighten your abs and then thrust or press up Got it All right, thank you for pulling in Alexis Thank you guys I really appreciate it Yeah, that you know the way the cns works, you know, because the cns, right? That's like the the amplifier to the to the speakers which are muscles, right? It's what turns on the muscles to make them fire and the cns Fires more powerfully when more of it is turned on the one less less of it's turned on So in other words, if I do if I want to get my right quadricep to fire as strongly as it can I have to fire the whole body We actually do this naturally when you're lifting something real heavy or doing something even with one hand that's real stressful You'll naturally tense up your entire body. So, you know, when you're trying to go from a dead stop position You can't go from it's hard to go from dead stop to all of a sudden turn everything on better to turn everything on Then go I imagine like I know you guys have seen this in carnivals and whatnot where it has that grip tester Where you squeeze it and then you see the lights kind of go up the harder you squeeze it You got to think about that when in terms if you're if you're not generating enough Force if you're not lighting up enough muscle fibers to contribute to that lift, you know, that could be uh Initially, well, I just think when you're talking about the shoulder like the hips It's a it's a ball and socket joint And so you have all these muscles that are kind of supporting This this floating joint and if they're not all woken up and activated and stable You feel unstable at the bottom just like someone feels really unstable at the bottom of a squat If you don't do a good job of waking up the hips Just like if you don't do a good job of waking up all the muscles around the shoulder You feel really unstable when you go to a press just like when someone does a squat Yeah, and then you know, of course if there's a part of a rep of an exercise that you're not comfortable with Literally just training that part makes a huge difference huge difference You can literally stop your reps at that part hold the position Then do your left you could add more more weight at that bottom part or make that the determining factor To how much weight you put on the bar just train that part. I did this with bench press as a kid I got the bottom part was so hard that what I started doing is I started doing You know, I would do half reps bottom up just to practice that portion I got so good that it actually became a stronger part of my left Our next caller is dan from alberta canada. Hey, what's up dan? How can we help you? Hey guys, um I'm calling to ask you guys. I've got uh fitness tests and about So we're going to be between five to seven months And I've passed it for this will be my third time doing it And for it I've got to be strong and fast. So I'm wondering what's the best way to balance Strength and performance when training for competitions. Basically the results have to be competitive More specific. Yeah. What kind of competition are we doing? It's a fitness test for firefighting. So, okay. It's like a seven-part fitness test over three hours Okay, well, okay So, um, I'm not familiar with the tests that they might that they do in canada But I'm somewhat familiar with the ones that they tend to do down here. So I'm assuming They're similar where you're gonna be doing you're gonna have to climb over things carry A heavy bag for some distance Um, you know that kind of stuff is that is that sound similar? Yeah, pretty much yet. It's a lot of sudden burst of uh Movement and then yeah some Ladder climbs and like I said dragging heavy weights. Okay. Um, what do you struggle with the most now? Is it the strength? Is it the stamina? Is it the speed? It's definitely the the speed for myself. Um, I've got the endurance down pretty well and the strength As well, but I I can't do it fast. Got you an issue Okay, so here's the deal and you said you have three to five months. So here's what I'm going to recommend for you Um, anytime you're training for something specific and let's say you're you're far out from that competition Like you are three to five months This training you do now can be more general The closer you get to your competition the more specific your training should get. Okay. So in your case What does that look like if speed is the issue? I would do explosive style training Now, so this is where you can do box jumps Lateral jumps you might do some snatches or cleans when you get close to the competition Your best bet is to literally practice the things that they're testing you on You want to practice those and get good at doing those because a lot of what you're doing Is going to be based on skill. I mean, I'm a pretty strong guy, you know Justin's strong and fast, but if you throw us in a test or a competition that we're not familiar with the skill How are you not gonna? We're not gonna perform a station. I'm sorry. How are you not gonna add me to that? I mean, you know, I'm strong Adam look strong and fast So what about what about maps performance? I mean I would run performance until probably the last four to six weeks And then I would get very specific what you're saying Yeah, and it actually works perfect because you work on that explosive strength initially I mean phase three itself is like completely Tailored towards what you're trying to achieve in terms of moving quickly and like getting that fast twitch response But then the last one is more geared towards endurance In phase four, but yeah, I would run that pretty much all the way up leading into your competition Yeah, just make sure you do the specific stuff, uh, you know at least three to four weeks Well, that's what I would so if you do that during your mobility sessions He knows the test So I would run a maps performance program Through leading up to the competition But then all I would do is I would pull out one or two exercises I feel are the least applicable to what I'm trying to do and add in things like drag bag drags or things or climbing over a wall Specific in your training, but as far as the programming is concerned That is that layout is pretty perfect for somebody like this. Yeah, uh, dan. Do you have access to maps performance? I do. Yes. I do have mass performance Perfect, and you know just you know more commentary on this. I think and I see this quite a bit I fell prey to this Myself years ago Where people will train for a specific sport And they'll want to work out in the gym to train for the attributes that they need So they'll think to themselves and say I need strength. I need power. I need speed So I'm going to do strength power and speed exercises in the gym And there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. But if you compare that person To somebody that just practices the sport a lot Oftentimes the person practicing just the sport a lot is actually going to perform better Because the the skill is so important. The technique is so important So I can't stress that enough with you Especially the four or five weeks before your competition Even if you just practiced, you know four days a week just practice the test You know segments of the test and getting good at that you're going to get so much carry over to the actual test Well, that's key I mean like like towards the end like towards like a month say leading into you know your Competition I would really hone in and focus on the skill of it But laying down the the foundational Movements and and strength movements that you want to carry into the competition Like that's going to be the groundwork that you're going to build off of and that's why I think the Program itself kind of lays that out But then sprinkle in you know the days in between with our mobility focused You can work your skills within those days to keep them sharp, but still build strength You know like in the beginning Sweet. Yeah, it seems pretty straightforward. Would you guys put it like that? All right, awesome. Thanks for calling Dan. Thanks, Dan. Thanks for the opportunity Yeah, that's a common Challenge especially gym rats gym rats who love working out the gym will and they're like, oh, I want to get good at the sport But then the sport is like, you know 25 percent of the training that they do and they spend 75 percent Doing stuff in the gym And then they wonder why their sport performance hasn't improved as much as their gym performance has improved Yeah, well, I mean on the other end of that You also see people trying to emulate those movements in the gym, which I think is hilarious to me right Yeah, which is a waste of time So if you're gonna be in the gym the gym the tools that are there are there best used for strength Yes, that's why we want to use that for strength and then we want to use skill You know adjacent to that I feel like there's like a common theme in these questions right now It's like everybody's asking these sport or competition type specific Training and it's like you need to just whatever that is whether it be rock climbing or whether it be for getting ready for a firefighter test The stuff that you need to do for both those things is what you should be doing 80 percent of the time and then the rest of the time that you're putting the work in to build strength leading up to all that Yeah, I again, I know I try to I go already referred to you know things I've learned when I did you know judo and jujitsu But I remember trying to build stamina and I was talking to a very high level competitor And he's like what you know, I'm like, man, I need to build more stamina. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, oh, I'm doing these like Circuits in the gym with kettlebells this and that and he goes. Why don't you just do more jujitsu? Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, I mean like a light bulb obviously and that's what I did I got way better way faster Well, it's like I think we've talked about this on the show before There's there's some carry over to that right doing those circuits You're going to build a little bit more of a gas tank and it sure we can't help but nothing will help more Than just getting really good at rolling for longer It's just like if you took somebody who is a badass swimmer And all of a sudden you had to compete against somebody who's a cyclist and they're always cycling all the time Even if you're a good long-distance swimmer Your chances of beating the guy who's always cycling all the time even though both of them require Cardiovascular endurance, they're different dude if your your skill is so important It'll make you use less energy and exert yourself less because you're more technical if okay if you've ever And I know you both have experiences if you've ever gone to work with People who are you know do like physical labor go work go to a construction yard Hey, yeah mix cement. Yeah be a badass in the gym You work out you lift weight a crossfit champion or whatever Go do roof, you know Put up put roofs up for all day long with a bunch of dudes in the sun And the dude with the pot belly who's eating the hot pocket for lunch is gonna he's gonna bury you crush you He's gonna crush you so it's there's so much skill is so important with the with the sport that you're involved in That getting better at the skills got way more pay payback than you know building general strength Well, our next caller is connie from north carolina. Hey connie. How can we help you? Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. Um, I was wondering if you had any advice for Someone who frequently gets migraines or headaches from dead lifting and squatting So, um, I'm pretty new to weightlifting. I've been deadlifting and squatting pretty consistently the past six weeks I've seen pretty good gains. Um, so my squats gone up about 80 pounds deadlift about 100 pounds and I feel really good With the exception of these random headaches and migraines that I've been getting Immediately after doing these two lifts. Um, I've also been experiencing some neck stiffness or soreness Sometimes the left side of my neck will go numb like a few days after the workout And I've rechecked my form over and over. I've even gotten a couple personal trainers from my gym to check my form They actually said it looked pretty good I know that I have like mobility issues in my ankles and feet But yeah, I don't know what that would have to do with my neck So any suggestions on where to go from here because I'm Just really at a loss. So this isn't Jessica battle with migraines. She does but not not like this You know, it's it's interesting. Uh, connie. By the way, I think you've won a couple shirts from us I recognize your name. Is that is that true? I don't think that was me, but it might have been my sister She's obsessed with you guys. Oh, okay trucker lady. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool. I recognize the the last name Okay, so interesting you're saying what you're saying because I've actually had a few clients With exactly this same issue and it was really tough For us to figure out what the problem was But eventually we did come up with some stuff that started to help So I gotta ask you a few more questions before I can I can try helping out here. Uh, number one, are you doing any caffeine before you work out? Not specifically and in fact, so I'll usually go to the gym around five five thirty Before work and I will have caffeine later in the day before I start my work day, but um, Not before I go to the gym. No, okay. So Okay, so a couple things you're gonna have to juggle here because you work out so late This may impact sleep later. So you have to play with this but caffeine before your workout Actually could help Could definitely help caffeine has got a positive effect On headaches typically. In fact, it's one of the ingredients and etc. And yeah caffeine I believe with with aspirin But what it what it does is it helps the blood vessels from expanding to what's happening with the deadlift and The squat is your you're building a lot of pressure In your head and then the pressure is immediately released When you drop the bar, I think it's that switch That's causing some of these problems caffeine can help and so does How you're doing your lift now not necessarily your form But rather when you're doing the lift Usually the way I recommend people squat and deadlift is they take a deep breath in They hold their breath which braces the core. They do the lift then they take a breath in between reps I'm going to tell you to not do that because I think that might be contributing To your headache. Are you doing that by the way, which it wouldn't don't feel bad That's how you're supposed to do it. But is that are you doing that? Uh, I've never really done the queuing of the breath. Um, I'm in fact, I might be holding my breath I have no idea. I don't really pay attention to my breath I'm more just trying to focus on the muscle that I'm trying to target. Gotcha. Okay. So when you're doing your lift I want you to breathe out And try to maintain Try to be relaxed in your head and neck as you breathe out This may affect how much weight you can lift, but so what it's probably a better trade-off Than having a migraine. So as you're doing the lift, I want you to breathe like this As you're doing the lift to prevent that pressure From building up in your head and from causing that problem. And then the other thing is this is have you tried a Increasing your sodium intake before your workout I have not I'm seeing a nutritionist right now. He's like Back off the sodium Oh, yeah. No. And in fact, did these headaches start when you started backing off on the sodium? Uh, it's hard to tell because I've started around the same time. So I started the workouts around the same time. Yeah That's the nutritionist. So I can two things that I I remember clients that that had some similar and the two One was actually sodium and hydration like drinking drinking water Yeah, drinking water and then sodium and then the other one was um, she had really locked up traps And so she was getting like tension headaches And then when she would load the bar on there and we would squat or overhead press We would get these migraines that would flare up every once well So what I'd have to do is before we'd ever go exercise is kind of release all that with like a little cross ball To kind of open her up and relax that before we go into doing any movements where those would fire like crazy So those are the two and and in my experience that I've dealt with that helps So hydration sodium, which the sal already alluded to and Justin And then the other thing is I don't know if you have really really tight traps Sometimes when you have really tight traps you get those tension headaches, especially when you load a bar on your traps I've also had clients that had really bad tmj Which also had contributed to uh, you know neck strain and lots of tightness In that direction, which then inevitably led to headaches as well But yeah, that's more, you know, tension related. So, uh, but definitely hydration is something to consider Uh, you know as far as like what I've found with my clients that really if once they emphasize that a lot It did help now connie I forgot to ask you why your nutritionist is having you reduce your sodium. Do you have uh high blood pressure? No, I mean I I tried to get her to give me an answer because I did hear you guys say It was good, especially with weight lifting. Um to have higher sodium And I don't know if she just was like, yeah, don't do it Do you do you have uh, do you eat a diet that's high in heavily processed foods or is it pretty much whole whole foods? Uh, yeah, no, it's pretty whole food pretty much whole foods. Um, what a weird recommendation That's all it's based off of old old science. Yes. Okay. So so try this out if your blood pressure is fine If you're you don't have any contra indications Um, you're not eating a lot of heavily processed food. Try this. Okay try having Now we work with element, which is a, you know, a robol's company makes electrolytes It's a thousand milligrams of sodium taste really good Try drinking a packet of that about 30 minutes before you work out Take a little bit of caffeine if you if you want you could start with like 60 70 milligrams 100 milligrams even 50 milligrams Before you work out and then try the breathing While you lift and see if that makes a difference I have uh, I I bet it would make if it doesn't at least get if it doesn't at least help It'll it might even get rid of the migraines that you're getting when you're doing the squats and the deadlifts Okay, awesome. Yeah, I wanted to mention to you. I do wear a mask at the gym because it's required I don't know if that's necessarily It's not helping the cause. Yeah, I mean if you're doing high rep stuff Then yeah, I would say that it might be an issue But if you're doing you know, if you're you know, 10 12 reps I don't think it's making that big of a difference. It's not helping though. That's for sure Okay, well, awesome. Yeah, I'll try some of these things Um, and I wanted to thank you guys so much for this podcast. I had so many paradigm shattering moments and you guys are awesome Um, so authentic and I really appreciate it. Um your help navigating such a confusing of World as health and fitness, but yeah, well, thank you. Thank you for your support. Connie. Thank you This is like one of those ones where uh, Obviously very tough to do via podcast without like, you know, because here's a it's with a trial and error Exactly. I mean, we all threw a ton of things and uh, hopefully she actually, you know, if she listens to this Hopefully she teases some of those out and actually just applies one or two at a time And then sees what happens applies the other one or two at a time to get to the bottom of it because If she throws out all the advice or throws all the advice that we gave At one time she might not know exactly what the problem is But that those are the two thing that came to my mind right away is the the hydration sodium thing I've dealt with that and then the really tight traps Uh before you go, you know, and again without knowing more it's hard, right? Because maybe the dietitian or the person working on nutrition found well, there might be a reason, right? There might be yeah, but she didn't say she knew she didn't she said it wasn't blood pressure I mean, who knows it could be something with her kidneys. It could be, you know So I don't I want to make sure that the nutritionist isn't doing blood work I don't know. I don't know if she's working with like in the hospital or what the deal is I feel like if she was working with someone that was doing blood work, they would have gave back it They would diagnosed her it could also just be based off of old crappy science, you know where you're you're it's my my feeling Yeah, it's just it's like that's one of the things they do. Oh drop your calories and try and drop sodium It just you know, that's just one of those blanket things that they but I mean I had a client it felt exactly the same way We do the deadlifts and afterwards it would just all of a sudden start throbbing in her head And I had her take 50 milligrams of caffeine before the workout and do her breathing Gone completely gone. It made that big of a difference. 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