 I am live, you are live. So I'm doing a quick stream, just to talk a little bit about Reclaim Press. It's something I have been wanting to work on and kind of write about and play with. And it struck me that Taylor and I were talking yesterday. I guess I should give some formalities. I'm Jim Groom with Reclaim Hosting and Taylor is a colleague of mine and we were talking about streaming more regularly. And so I wanted to do a quick stream to talk about my ideas for setting up a new service for Reclaim Hosting called Reclaim Press. And so what is Reclaim Press? Reclaim Press is basically a WordPress as service setup. Whereas we have essentially the same infrastructure that's running Reclaim Cloud is now we can essentially what we're doing is creating a brand new cluster apart from our Reclaim Cloud called Reclaim Press. And on that cluster, which is in three different regions, right now it's in the US West, the US East and Canada. We provide a very WordPress focused interface and infrastructure where people can come on and they can basically choose from a series of predetermined packages of creating basically cloud driven, high available, scalable WordPress instances. And that's pretty exciting. We do a lot of WordPress hosting. That's no surprise. I've been playing with WordPress for near on 20 years. I mean, it's still a lot of what we do and I'm still kind of fascinated by it. And so I have been leading up to this by getting, offloading some of the media from my blog, Bob of Tuesdays and from a site I've been running for years, DS106, to get them ready for the migration. At this point, the Reclaim Press is at a point actually being set up. I set up DNS records today, the folks at Virtuoso because like Reclaim Cloud, it's a Virtuoso product, are doing the final setup stages. So I may have it as soon as this weekend to start playing with. And that means start migrating sites over, start seeing it. And I was sold on Reclaim Press probably two or three months ago when I was in a meeting with the folks at Virtuoso and they were talking about this is a new service that's coming out with a Virtuoso 9 and we're on 8.02 and I didn't wanna wait. And I was like, what would it mean to have a separate cluster where we could run WordPress and have that as another kind of service beyond Reclaim Cloud or Domain of One's Own or Managed Hosting. And so there it is. That's what we've done. Let me give you, I'm gonna grab a couple of screenshots and I wanna show you some of the things that I've seen in that sales meeting that I kind of got excited about. And then I'll talk a little bit about where, what I'm gonna start with and what I'm gonna do and we'll go from there. So hold on one second. As you can see, this was a very kind of like, oh, I'll do a stream. I haven't done it in a while. So it's always sometimes good to just go out and do it. So that's what I'm doing. All right, so here we go. So anyway, I'm gonna share my screen and show you some screenshots from what I saw in this presentation. And then this presentation, I just grabbed some screenshots while it was happening. And I think you can see them kind of well but you'll notice here, it says Virtuoso, like that would say Reclaim Cloud. And then here are your different WordPress instances. And one of the things that's nice about that is you can go to the dashboard for each of them and here's your URL and it will give you some data center information. And then here's a download but this is a list of your various WordPress sites. And the thing I liked about it particularly for folks is you get a dashboard with the kind of analytics and details around your WordPress instance. But if you go beyond that, you actually get an overview, you can log into your WordPress, you can do file management in your WordPress. It will give you all the details around your versions, PHP, et cetera. You can edit obviously the environment name. You can stop, restart, and also a dev environment comes as part of any new instance in ReclaimPress which is pretty exciting. You'll see all the SSH, the real difference here is when you set up a WordPress scalable instance in Reclaim Cloud, all you get is an environment. And that environment looks very different. To give you an idea, and I am gonna give you an idea right now, I'm gonna stop sharing this and I'll show you what an environment in Reclaim Cloud looks like right now. So this will give you an idea of the difference and why maybe I'm excited about this. So let me put this over here and then I'll share the two back to back so you can see. Okay, so here we go. So right now, if you wanted to set up a WordPress in Reclaim Cloud, this would be your experience. You would go, here's the list of Reclaim Cloud instances for me. And then if I wanted a new WordPress, I would go environment, no, I wouldn't do that, actually I would go to marketplace because it's easier. And then I'd search for WordPress. And then I would just click on probably the standalone and boom, you'd click install standalone and that would be there. Hey, Taylor, you joined. Good, nothing like giving you no notice, but I just figured I would get in after we talked, I was inspired. So I'm just talking about the difference between WordPress in Reclaim Cloud versus what it would be like or look like in Reclaim Press. So to do it in Reclaim Cloud, as you know very well, you would go into the installer, you'd close that, you'd install it and then once you installed it, it would look something like this. This would be your WordPress instance, right? This would be your interface to manage it. It's not like there's nothing there. I mean, there is a little bit of an add on, but you really just get a line and a kind of app server. And unless you know how Reclaim Cloud works, it's not intuitive. Yeah, and what Reclaim Cloud is ultimately giving you is tools into how to control Linux containers basically. And one of those Linux containers happens to be a web server with a database that's running WordPress. And so the add ons is some shortcuts, but it's not designed front to back for just WordPress. It's designed to support almost anything, which is good and bad. Yeah, it's the beauty of it, but like at the point where we're doing, you know, a WordPress service, and I'll show you this, this is kind of what the interface will look like for a WordPress instance in Reclaim Press. You'll notice it is, as I said before, branded virtuoso, but this is your product environment, which is the same thing as that little, like Taylor said, the container with the database and all of that, but this is actually making it more WordPress kind of friendly. It's got the version, the PHP. It's gonna tell you, you can get access to your files very clearly with file management, you'll get statistics. You can even get in there and manage your plugins. And that's a separate tab. Again, this is screenshots I took while the people were presenting. I have yet to get my hands on an actual production, but as I was saying earlier, Taylor, I'm excited because I just set up the DNS entries for our three clusters in the US East, US West and Canada. So Reclaim Cloud or Reclaim Press is like moments away from happening. And so that's kind of why I was inspired to do this to talk about, A, I'm really excited for this different kind of interface for WordPress and Reclaim in a cloud environment. But on top of that, I really wanna get in there and test it out, moving stuff over. Couple of the other things that may or may not be interesting is very easy key access, although I haven't used it for the DS106 hack cleanup, not that bad, it actually worked kind of good. I'll be interested to see if we have those same gate issues we had previously. Yeah, and it's just a security thing. The gate has tighter security than a lot of things. So I'm not an expert at it, but basically, if you use an older key like an RSA key, it's not gonna work properly on the gate in every situation, some situations, some not. And so we recommend that newer type of key. But even then I find it simpler to just, in a situation like this, when you're dealing with a company where they've given you a key, it's like, yeah, we've got workarounds for that. Gotcha. But this is kind of answering sort of one question for me, which is technology-wise, my understanding is that this is really at the heart of it, the same kind of technology that powers reclaimed cloud in the benefits of that, right? In that like it's containerized. I think I'm even recognizing like it was showing the PHP version. And it said LLSMP with the same icon. So I'm guessing that they're kind of basically taking what they've learned from a virtuoso platform as a service and kind of saying, here's another interface to that same underlying technology. But what's great for us, and for I think anyone who would use it, is that we're already familiar with the underlying technology. I absolutely, a hundred percent. And you can kind of see even the PHP version, like you're saying right there, like you do see signs of it. But I think like things I like about digital ocean very much and other, it's the interface, right? And the interface reclaimed cloud is kind of a DevOps interface, even though it's GUI, it's not command line. But it's literally, that's what they pointed at, right? DevOps. It assumes that you're gonna be doing this for a broad infrastructure, which we have. And it's worked great for us, which is why to get this out in front of people who use or are familiar with WordPress, but not familiar with reclaimed cloud to make it like, it's a WordPress interface for your cloud instance. And that's right. That's exactly same. It's gonna be a more recent version of the, what they call the virtual application platform, the VAP. It's gonna be more recent. It's gonna be where on 8.02. That one's gonna be on 9.01 or 9.02. So we will see some behind the scenes, you and I will be able to see some differences that are coming when we finally upgrade the other one, but upgrading our existing infrastructure to nine and everything that entailed would have been kind of, would have slowed down getting this going. And that's why I pushed for us to have a completely separate cluster. Yeah, and I'll like, I keep an eye on the like change logs of the platform and it's not changes in the way that you might expect. It's not like, oh, 9.0 comes with support for these applications. No, because ultimately like, the applications are running in containers. So it kind of, that doesn't matter as much. It's usually like small improvements to the interface, a lot of backend stuff for us. So those changes are good to make and we're gonna keep making, but like it's not like feature releases of WordPress, right? Like it's not the same kind of updates. It's something that you carefully consider and say, what are we losing and what are we gaining when we make those moves? Now, a couple of things that I'm interested in once we do get our hands on it and can test it. And again, I think this literally could be within days, which I'm super excited about. I was actually thinking about the word, a reclaimed press while I was on vacation, which is a good sign. But like I was like, oh, I can't wait. Oh, I'm gonna get, you know, doing this stuff. But a couple of things they said that I wanna see if, they said that they have, you know, we set up a WordPress multi-region. It's one of our setups. It's a special installer that we use. We pull through JPS, which is basically like the Jelastic. What does JPS stand for? Jelastic packaging standard, I believe. There you go. Well done. So we use the JPS and then that sets up a multi-region instance of WordPress, which then we're able to run through Cloudflare and load balance and basically create high availability, failover WordPress instances. This, from what I understand, and I'm ready to test it now and do that with or without Cloudflare. So like it actually has a, basically one of your packages would be, you wanna WordPress multi-region? Boom, one click install. It's a package. It has its own pricing. And the other thing is that within them, every WordPress instance, and we'll have to see if this proves true for the multi-region, has a dev environment created by default. So every, and then it also can automatically sync changes. Depending from the dev environment. So like we're talking like light years beyond some of the stuff. I mean, I already claimed Cloud WordPress instances are solid and they have been great. They have sold us on the platform to be clear. But like now that we're gonna get this really kind of high end interface to make all these things just out of the box is really kind of exciting for me. Yeah, it's really, it's really installatron for WordPress and the cloud in a lot of ways, right? Like in that, the dev environment thing is kind of like the synced environments you can do an installatron sounds like that to me anyway. And yeah, it's very exciting and hopefully makes this stuff approachable as we, for other people, as we get more familiar with it. I'll tell you, even down to the fact like with installatron it has that WordPress admin login. So does reclaim press. When you get to this interface, which I'm gonna put up here, you're gonna have a place where it's like just login, you don't need to know your WordPress credentials. Or still, if you know them, it's fine. You click from here and it will pull you right in. Plus it has a really nice way of giving you all of the SSH database info, PHP info. It's really cleanly laid out up there. And then they showed me the plugins page, but I wasn't able to grab a screenshot. But the plugins page is now, it's because it abstracts out all your plugins and it shows you which ones are using how many resources. Oh, wow. It actually breaks down. That's something we struggle with on shared hosting, right? Like there's like query monitor, but that's not always the full story. That's not always a very good picture of exactly what the problem is. And we'll see how this works, right? Maybe it's useful in some situations and not in others. I'm sure that's kind of how these things go, right? But that's really cool. Yeah, this also kind of one thing on my rainy day reclaim cloud installer list was like, I could easily make an add-on, I think, I haven't tried to use the one-time login plugin in WordPress to make like a magic link add-on for reclaim cloud, for WordPress specifically. And I'm not gonna do that because there'd be no reason to. So, okay, so, but wait, there's more. So from what I understand, it has a place cleanly, like reclaim cloud, but again, the interface matters here. SSL certificates get configuration, but the other thing is they have backups now, which is a separate add-on and reclaim cloud built into the environment. And you can have it backup across multiple regions. Oh, cool. So like it's not limited to the same region like in reclaim cloud where it lives. You can have basically region, obviously you want your backups maybe in a different region in case that region has issues. So that's a very cool piece too, I wanna experiment with. I wonder too, if we can control where those backup regions, or sorry, what regions backups could live in. Cause I could see it making sense to get different type of hardware, kind of like we do for JetBackup. And saying, yeah, backups storage for, you know, reclaim press is, it's only in three regions, but the pricing is cheaper for storage because we're not running it on the same type of hardware. You know what I mean? There's things that could make sense for us and for people using reclaim press potentially if we had that kind of control. Whereas right now it necessarily is in the same hardware as reclaim cloud because a backup in that, that WordPress backup tool is really cool. I've shown some people that the one that exists right now, but it's just a, it's just a Linux container in the same region. And so you're gonna get build the same amount because from our perspective, it's the same, you're using the same chunk of our server. But if something like this would allow us to separate out, and I don't know that it does to be clear, I'm speculating, but say, no, no, no, no, put backup things over in this special, you know, US backup one region where we have servers that have huge hard drives, but don't have that much CPU power and therefore we can charge less for them, you know? I agree, yeah. I mean, and that would be good or even I would love to be able to push backups to S3, right? That would be another thing. That's another thing that's on my, we've talked a lot about like some clever ways we could leverage S3, and that was one on my list too. It was like, I wonder, you know, it's in a situation like a backup where you're, you don't really care. Like, does this take three hours? Whatever, like that's fine. As long as it works, you know? So the other, so backups get configuration, which I'm not, I don't know, get that well. So that's not something I understand. SSL certificates, I've had my run-ins with them. I understand them better than I once did, but still. But all of this- I had my run-ins with them, see, that's me too. Yeah. But I mean, all of this as part of that, of that interface is really nice. The other thing they said, and it's kind of the last feature, and it was really exciting, is like they, with their backup setup. So I guess maybe this is Linux based or it is built into the interface. Again, we have to test is, you do the changes, right? And say you wanna, you did something and within the last hour and you wanna revert. Like they have like a timed, it's almost like timed, where they've recorded the whole instance over the last X hours. So you can pinpoint it back to like 45 minutes ago. So now I am very curious about the actual underlying infrastructure. And also, if any of this will come, some of this stuff will come to reclaim cloud as well. The reason I say that is that type of thing makes it sound to me like they're using file system level, like snapshotting basically, which is a technology that has been like enterprise only for a while, but now we're seeing it in consumer stuff and we're seeing it in public cloud stuff too. But basically what it does is it, imagine you've got your computer, your Mac. In fact, your Mac does this if you use Time Machine. And when you make changes to a file and you say, yep, I wanna make a backup now, what it actually is doing is it's marking sort of like, it's making like a hash of the state of all of your files. And then everything that happened since then, it can tell what's happened since then because of that hash that it made. Describing it as a hash is not, I don't actually know like- What helps me. But that's how I think of it anyway. Anyway, and so what you wind up with is sort of a differential like, okay, we have like a picture of what it was like at this time and we know what's changed since then. So to get back to here, we don't actually need a second copy of that data. We can just undo everything that's happened and bam, we're here now. And there are file systems that do that at the file system level, which is really cool because you don't have to build that in the say like WordPress or something, it can just happen. I bet they're using something like ZFS or some kind of file system that does that. And this is another one of those things that containers can make easier because of a lot of things, but the way files get stored in containers, you can do that on a container level too. So my point is, yeah, I'd be willing to bet that they're leveraging that for maybe their dev stuff too, the dev environment thing. Yeah, think about how huge that is for us in terms of some of these high availability clients that make a bad change and rather than saying, well, you got to revert from the night before. It's like you can revert from 10 minutes ago. Yeah, and the cool thing about that is also, it's way more efficient on storage, right? So it's using snapshots, the cost of that storage is just simply, what is your total storage usage? Minus, or plus, sorry. What has happened since your last snapshot? That's, it's not, if you added, if you have nine files and then you snapshot and you add three files, your storage usage is 12 files. It's not nine plus 12, you know. Exactly. So it's kind of big. And actually that example isn't great because where it really makes a bit difference is when you're deleting files. So anyway. So scratch that example from the record. Well, it's, I think it's accurate. I'm just saying like it's maybe not the cooler like tech example, but anyway, and I'm not an expert at it. I've only kind of read about and seen this in implemented in like certain storage systems, basically. And then again, notably time machine has started working this way in the last two years. If you use that to back up your back, it actually uses snapshots to make this stuff easier. I wasn't gonna say, I actually know that you don't. I rather not talk about that. I'm happy, don't make me sad. So we got five minutes left. The one thing I did wanna talk about in that five minutes is the other thing they let you do, and this will be interesting to play with, is they let you set up basically like sell packages. Like when you come into Reclaim Press, you're gonna be presented with, here's a couple of recommended packages to get started with Reclaim Press. Like a straight up basic WordPress blog, X amount of month and you're gone and then it can scale up to this. And if you need more storage, it's this. So it'd be interesting looking at that. But as we talked about with Bonnie Russell from Michigan State in our community chat on Wednesday, it opens up all sorts of possibilities for integrating like more sophisticated WordPress packaging. A lot of people love this from what I understand for stuff they're doing with WooCommerce. WooCommerce isn't our basic, that's not our focus. Like we don't get a lot of commerce orientated sites, but the idea is it can deal with kind of WordPress sites that are doing more than the average and are kind of resource intensive, kind of like a C-box, kind of like a press books instance potentially, like kind of like other instances that might need more resources or might be more kind of, I don't know, institutionally important so that it's gotta stay up. Yeah, I'm really interested too to see what this will allow, like the templates is interesting to me because if it works like install Tron templates or anything like that, that could be huge, right? Because those are so easy to make and maintain compared to like a custom installer. So that would be super cool to see like, okay, can we have a commons in a box, you know, commons in a box open lab, H commons, you know, like can we do those types of things? Obviously WordPress multi-site, but maybe WordPress multi-site, plus here's some plugins that we recommend at Reclaim that you consider using, you know, even simple things too, just like here's a WordPress site that's set up with things like Insanity to make your maintenance life down the road a little bit easier. Not that that's hard to install yourself, but I'm saying like a suite of plugins like that. And then the final one that I don't know if this would actually be a template thing necessarily, but I am really interested to see like, how can we at Reclaim make as easy as possible the transition from, I've got a site on shared hosting to Reclaim Press, not from like an upsell perspective, but from a perspective of I want people to be able to understand if this is something they can benefit from or not, right? Like I want it to be something where, and I don't know that we'll be able to get there right away, but ideally it'd be like sign up for an account, follow our four step guide and you have a version of your WordPress site running over there. And you can see like, is it faster? Is it equally faster? Do I care? And it maybe even go back, like because we do from time to time get the question of, hey, we're expecting like this, there's a conference and- We got it yesterday from one of our clients, right? Yeah, and in that case, I think they only had expected traffic for a week and we're like, well, you could move it for a week, but it's kind of a lot of work for you to move it there and back, you know? But if it could simplify that- If it could simplify that, and I think that Reclaim Press might be part of that puzzle, right? In terms of, well, step one is actually running WordPress should be easy and managing it should be easy. And then step two is can we build tools on top of it or workflows or documents something? And, you know, maybe it's as simple as like, look, we recommend you just use updrafts or something. And that's cool. We already have documentation on that. But, you know, I would like to get even easier than that if possible, like I know there are WordPress plugins that can do things like you install the plugin in both places and it will sort of directly transfer between them, which is interesting to me. I don't know how well they work, you know? But that, you know, something like that would be cool. I agree. No, I appreciate that Taylor. So we have a minute left. The other good news is Brian Mathers and I have an appointment to talk and pilots coming to talk about art for Reclaim Press. And I already have my idea. It's like the vinyl pressing factory where you have the vinyl and this is where it gets pressed. And it's kind of like this 1950s Cogswell Cogs industry from the Jetsons, like futuristic pressing of WordPress instances. And so that's the WordPress press, the Reclaim Press. Yeah. I like it. That'd be cool. I'm excited to see as always the where he'll go with that. And I think I do these products just so we can talk about art. Yeah. All right. What's your business strategy? Mostly we make, we innovate products so that we can get someone to make art for it. We can make Brian Mathers art for it. We make art, dammit. Well, that's awesome. I'm glad we did this. It will be an easy way to blog about preparing for this because I want to get down to it and start creating the Reclaim Press because I know what we're doing DNS. We're getting close. So I'm excited. Yeah. I'm really excited what we can do to make, again, just as always, I'm excited what we can do to make this pretty technical, this kind of infrastructure is getting pretty advanced. How can we make that easy for folks to benefit from? And think about it. We're talking about full-blown enterprise-level WordPress instances. This is like what WP Engine does. That's what this is kind of a competitor to in some ways. Yeah. And the whole point, and they do a great job. The WordPress offload media plugin they created, I'm using that to offload stuff to S3 and think about it. And that's a good plugin. It does a lot and it solves a lot of the issues we have. And so if we could be in a situation where you put a school in a scenario where it's like, oh, you want to run a high availability, multi-region instance, couple of clicks. Yeah. You don't need us. Raise you. Log in here, do it. You don't need a high touch for it necessarily. That would be a cool place to be. I agree. All right. Thank you very much for joining, Taylor. And thank you. If you were, or if in the future, you will be watching Reclaim Plus for life. See y'all.