 having joined the Yankees organization in 2012 Matt Ferry worked his way up and now he serves as their director of baseball operations in New York. Ferry is part of the group that has made the trip to San Diego for the winter meetings where Jack and Meredith spoke with him earlier. Thanks Bob as we all know Yankees fans want to see a deal with Aaron Judge they have not been able to get that done yet however they were able to make some news today extending Brian Cashman a guy that you have worked under Matt for a very long time so what has it been like working under Cash and what stands out to you about the way he goes about his business? Cash is an amazing boss I'm a little biased but he's an incredible boss to work for he's someone that lets you do your job doesn't look over your shoulder seeing what you're doing or not doing he lets you grow and spread your wings he gets input from all sides we talk about balanced decision-making between scouting and analytics he's all about that he listens to all sides and makes good sound decisions I think that's something that's really served him well in this in this industry and this baseball industry in this market New York for so long he's someone that you know hasn't had a losing record under his reign his entire time as general manager and that's something I think we all take pride in something that he should be proud of certainly but it's something that has allowed him to do this job for so long in a market that you know is really difficult to navigate. I'm glad you talked about the input from all sides Brian has talked about how he wants to surround himself with smart people and he wants to hear what they have to say so if you could be our mole inside the winter meetings suites what are those discussions like as you guys are in the suite and making decisions on possible player acquisitions possible free agent signings. Yeah I mean the war room or the suite upstairs it's it's a group of all cash is trusted advisors right it's Mike Fishman our assistant GM Gene Afterman Tim Nairing Jim Hendry on the scouting side Matt Daley our director of pro scouting Kevin Reese is up there Eric Schmidt David Grabner our director of quantitative analysis he's getting input from all sides we're talking with every different team work in the phones talking with free agents getting price tags and evaluating the entire landscape and market how to make our team better for next year and beyond and that's something that we're grinding you know not just here in San Diego but throughout the off season but it's it's nice when we can get everyone under the same roof talk through maybe do some face-to-face with agents or other teams and try to navigate what's best for our team and as we figure out what's what's gonna do make our team in 2023 even better. You talk about constantly evaluating that's something that's organization is always doing both internally and the players that are out there on the market when you look at the 2022 season obviously you did not reach your ultimate goal of winning a world series but what are some of your biggest takeaways from the season we had a lot of successes obviously didn't reach our ultimate goal but if you look at the first couple months of the 2022 season it was a lot of fun a lot of successes it was one of the closest knit groups that we've had from a player perspective boonies talked about that a lot throughout the course of the year guys like Rizzo really impacting the room for a full season bringing guys in like Harrison Bader halfway through the year providing the spark at the in the postseason with him it was a group that had a lot of fun and we want to build on that that core that group in 2023 and I have to give boonie and his staff credit there they're a group of innovative coaches support staff that is always there to provide information or nuggets to our players we have a fully operational system and support staff and I think that's what showed a lot of the successes that we had as a team and AL East crown. Matt what is the key to making all of those departments work scouting analytics sports science the medical side everything that goes into making a winning baseball team. It's a challenge there's there's a lot of departments a lot of people within those departments sometimes a lot of cooks in the kitchen and that's what why cash is is our leader and has done this for so long as he gets that input from a variety of people and tries to make sure that no stone is left unturned when it comes to a player whether it's a scouting report whether it's make up whether it's performance science whatever we need to know about a player we want to see if there's untapped potential if there's any low hanging fruit we're doing every little bit that we can to try to maximize player performance and try to get the most that we can out of players in the field and I think some of those guys have shown through over time the last couple years guys we've acquired of guys that we've signed and hopefully it's impacted wins and losses on the field quickly before we send it back to the studio 10 years in the Yankees organization four years in your current role what's been the biggest change that you've seen in this organization biggest change it continues to grow the industry continues to grow there's there's as I talked about more people the winter meetings are a huge operation there's there's job seekers here there's vendors there's teams media it's a huge event and it gets bigger and bigger every year I think that's a good thing for our industry more eyeballs on the product we looked at coming out of the last cba there's more eyeballs more revenue and that's that's a lot of fun but it's a bigger challenge every year because everyone has higher and higher expectations of not just our team but the sport in general and Matt once was one of those job seekers we have covered that on our shows Meredith so we should tell everyone out there who is roaming the lobbies looking for a job this is the guy you want to follow you want to follow his path seems to have worked out pretty well so format thank you for the time thanks guys