 It's so stupid, it's positively brilliant. It's brilliant. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. It's positive. Yep, shawlaming to God, Andrew Schultz. We are the Brilliant Idiots podcast. Wax is here. Another week of brilliant idiotness. How you feeling, Hezzie? Turn. Oh, God. One thing about Hezzie, boy. I can't. No, man. What happened? I can't. No. Why can't we don't man through everybody who's here in a room. We are as Alex is here Angela was over there on the cameras. Everybody's playing their position, right? supposed to be talking to talking Angela's over there shooting pictures. We doing what we supposed to do. That's it. It's all about rose Oh Did you see it? Would you do anything rolls as in what kind of rule rose rose positions? Oh, okay Did you see um what Ebony Kay Williams? Well, first of all, how was your week? Mm-hmm? My week was good. My week was good. Okay. Yeah, I don't have anything exceptional to talk about to be honest for my week Oh, um I'm getting married bro. I said an email to you guys. Well, yeah, we're gonna have a wedding, bro You never sit me nothing I did not get that You're not doing it this year. Are you? Yeah, this year. Yeah, really? Yeah. Yeah. Talk to me Like why pregnant? Yo, why is that? You say you get married to me a question who's already married. They go why why would you do it? No, no, no, I'm happy with the marriage, but it seems like I mean, I know you proposed Last year Me though, right? No, I think I was I think I was engaged for you right before me. Yeah, it must be baby fever, man Maybe when would you give me? I think I did during the pandemic before Netflix for sure before the Netflix special Yeah, I'm all for that. I think that when you propose you should get married within the next 365 Unless there's a global pandemic like we probably would have been married even before that. Let's do true If you propose and you don't get married within a year span, I'm not really sure you want to get married. Yeah December you got till December bro. No mine is 420 Wow, so next year 420. Yeah, 420. I'm a year and a half ain't bad. Yeah, anything I like if you I'm telling you anything after Yeah, yeah and a half. It's like you don't Yeah, honestly, it's so hard for me to do the podcast with that We have to stop doing that because I'm gonna tell you why because some people just feed off energy and they know man What happened? That's a that's a good conversation though because there's just uh, there's this woman in North Carolina I think her name was was Kelly Moore. She's a nurse, right, right? So she's a nurse at this nurse facility and she got suspended by The nursing facility because she kept doing these tiktok videos on the job But her content had to do with the patients So she'd be saying things like oh my unplugged this person's ventilator and charge my phone She was acting like she was that's funny. That's funny joke But she was like she was pouring more pills into the person's cup and she was like I'm gonna make this person sleep longer So it was it was a joke So naturally if you got somebody in that nursing facility and you're watching this woman do this on tiktok You're going to complain. She's my parents or somebody Like became poppin during the pandemic you think oh, is that What do you mean like just so many people died because they're busy doing tiktoks the whole fucking time We could be saving people's lives open and breathe and shit, but that's that's my point, right? It's like I don't you know that that young woman was not focused on what her actual Know what I mean, so you're saying like sometimes you got to have more focus on what your job is. That's it And that's like she the young lady in North Carolina. She blamed her situation on tiktok She was like I got fired because no she's I got fired because of trolls on tiktok No, you didn't you got fired because of you. Yeah, but you got suspended you got suspended you got suspended because of you Yeah, she blamed it on cancel culture. It was like it's just these Karen's mad at me No, it's people who probably have folks in that facility. Yeah, they say you fucking around with the defibrillator or whatever And her excuse was I'm just playing. This is comedy sketches. Do that in your off time We're doing a comedy show do it at a comedy show go to an open mic do it when you're in the house Yeah, that's it that when you're actually supposed to be there nursing. Yeah, I think this is I think this whole generation Yeah, I'm not even exaggerating money is not the root of all evil attention is yeah These youngins want attention not even just these youngins adults to this generation. That's what I say this generation some of them Get attention and they start craving attention so much that it fucks up their money That you know, even this woman in North Carolina, she's an actual nurse. Yeah, right with the attention of tiktok Overwhelmed her so much. Yeah, that it caused her to ended up getting suspended from her actual job That's paying her fucking money now. She got to go fund me Yeah, asking for money to take care of her kids That's literally what it says. It's like I got tiktok. I got I got what it's like I fired because of tiktok I need money to feed my kids. You should have thought about that. Yeah before you craved the attention Over the money. Yeah, you know drug man. It is a drug attention. It's a drug So my whole thing is don't let any attention Fuck your money. You know, there is it. There's it. Yeah, and I guess maybe there's an entitlement there But I have seen a generational shift. No, it's crazy as well And we speak about you have like a lot of like boomer motherfuckers talking about those generations are so entitled No, it's crazy when it comes like jobs and stuff. It is true like younger generation They do feel as if they just find which is good because you'll go after the things you deserve, but I don't know at least our generation or I don't know at least we felt like we had to go get it or it we didn't deserve it There was maybe more of a gratitude that came along with I don't care What you do after you're great at what it is you're here for? Be great at what it is you're here for That's it. If you're great at what it is you're here for it'll be all types of things in perks that come with that Yeah, you know what I mean, but you know can can kind of like sway everybody's opinion Everybody wants to be in front of a camera. It's very rare. You find someone who doesn't it isn't like Intoxicated about being in front of camera. It's very rare. You find the people that are behind the camera and the people who were like I like being behind the camera like those people who genuinely like that Loving times they thrive because there's not a lot of people fighting for those positions. Yo, it's yo Show take that shit on the head. I've been saying that for the past couple of weeks You know, there's people around us in our circle that they they like to play their position behind the scenes That's what they want to do. They want to be like this pages like that You know what I mean our girl sim is like that, you know, I mean and and and I'm watching their their evolution goes a lot faster Because they know what they're here for and they have a better relationship with talent because there's not resentment Like I remember when I'll go like out for like acting gigs and shit like that You go into these rooms with these like casting directors and they're just failed actors and like everybody that you're dealing with Just a failed actor, right and they resent the fact that you might Want what they couldn't have right and all these people that you're dealing with like producers a lot of times They're like failed actors failed comics There's always people who's like failures at the thing that you're trying to be great at So it's hard for them to rue for you because they wish they were you Yeah, but when you meet a mother bugger who does not want that they want to be great at their thing That's it. That's it man. That's the best relationship you end up having if I could tell anybody in this generation Something man, that is the road. Let's travel down. Yeah, you know me Yeah, and the road let's travel usually gets you get you to your destination. Yeah, that other lane is crowded as a mother Yeah, you got even when you go on YouTube you say to create your own lane Create your own lane even when you go on YouTube. You got doctors doing YouTube videos and lawyers doing YouTube videos And you know, it's like it's cool to get certain information out there But are you a YouTube or a fucking doctor? Well, they want that flex man. They want them comments They want the people saying how great they are. That's right. They want the bitches slide into DMs That's right, it's all about pussy man for that for real man. Yeah, we're gonna get it from pussy man That's it. It's tricky man, but I have noticed that and it is what's interesting is like there are people that will be behind a camera I don't think a lot of people realize like if you want to make money in this game If you're willing to be like behind the camera and it could be executive. It could be manager camera guy Engineer producer radio program director Comedy show promoter actually make the show actually do everything you could make Million so much more Producers of music make way more than the musicians, right like Love fucking do a leap us and all these people right You know we're making all the money people produce those fucking song every time Colgate Same thing with the producers and writers and TV like there's a lot of There's a lot of money in this game. You know, you gotta decide what you want Do you want money or do you want success or do you just want attention? Fucking back that attention as you said that attention could be intoxicating It could be that one person that recognizes you somewhere Right at one time you go somewhere and get something for free. Yeah, I'll give you a little extra You know what I mean new crack or just even seeing your name all on social media That's why some of these people don't care whether it's negative or positive As long as they're being talked about that shit. Listen, by the way, everybody's gonna have an opinion Let's not get it fucked up. I say it all the time There's the rule of ten three people gonna like it three people not gonna like it Well, people gonna be on the fence about it, you know what I mean? But that is when you're really being authentic and you're living in your truth, right? So if you put an opinion out there, you got to know everybody not gonna agree with it Yeah, right, but if if all like I Telling why not this dude and Angelo, you're not getting on camera. So don't even think about it He was looking the shit out of control Bro, he's starting to throw his own birthday This is how it starts listen But we really want to fuck them up for that shit because if I see that inside this I might want to fuck you up because my grandma might grab that fucking line Fuck you out Angelo was one of those guys that was looking shit and putting it on the internet looking shit I'm going putting it back and you guys hired him when I started I was about to fire him. Yeah I like, you know what? He understood right away. You got it. You got it falls. We know Lisa ain't putting it on camera Even with wax they wasn't about to make wax shit man. Oh I Make people hit me up randomly still getting a shit right now Well, you jump this guy up my this one my DM's always go yo every time it goes viral on TikTok Yo, you actually shake this guy's hand when you need him Yeah, that's homie who be catching this shit. Yeah, bro I was told you I was inside the fucking airport in a month like they call me doodoo boy. I Say yo Did you go in the bathroom right now? Yeah, I'ma fuck you up if somebody You can't say last place you go to the bathroom You can't say that I can't beat him up right there cuz he kept playing around I'm like, I'm gonna beat him up for something you say. I know but that's come on That's my point you said that you put that out there. I didn't actually say I grabbed the doodle with my hands You say always tissue there. No, it doesn't matter. That's not the weird part Crazy crazy sometimes. I ain't trying nobody. Nobody doesn't it. Yo, I see monkeys do that What No, you said y'all let your shit touch the water That's what you said you catch it before it touched the water with tissue every time As if the shit going in the water is abnormal. That's where the shit supposed to go wax lay it down Lay it down. It's like knocking somebody out Splash, you might hit their head and my blood is like come out Catch it and then you lay it right you fully in the water. You don't like water touching your ass Disgusting In a shit water you shower other shit went in there. It's your shit So you so you if a girl give you give you head you kiss her right after listen You don't watch your ass in her mouth. Huh? You don't watch your ass when you show You're supposed to go. I heard people do that. You don't let the water touch your ass in the shower No, it's not that I'm just saying I thought people like take a shit and they go take a shower Because they got splashy asses. I mean they shit in this flash. How are you shitting dude? Like what's coming out of you? Yo, you know This is what's fine is how much all of a sudden People hip-hop care about their kids man now that Nila Nas X is kissing man, right? Like cuz that's the first thing everybody just say you don't like gay shit Oh my kids just say you're homophobic Because all this shit on YouTube right now all the kids is mimicking so if they see their friend right there's a boy He's going he's seeing that why he might go over and try to get a wax. You grew up off beanie see No doubt. He fucked me up But I've never heard you complain about beanie see no I said beanie fucked me up But I've never heard you complain about I've never heard Beanie just made him want to do That's what I'm trying to say exactly my point I was doing the shit that beanie was talking about the shit I beanie was talking about and I was like I relate to that a kid might see that on his thing and she might see his friend right there and like come in You know the difference Little Nas X ain't doing nothing criminal The shit that rappers were some a lot a lot of rappers were encouraging us to do was actually I understand that but if a father don't want his kid to see to do that the kitchen of the boy a million things I don't want my I'm flippin this 43-year-old shawlamate talking 20 something your shawlamate would have thought a different way hell early 30 something shawlamate would have thought a different way But there's a million things in hip-hop. I don't want my kids to see Culture That might be one, you know, it's okay Eminem said that in a song one time It'll mean you hate them. It's just your God did not want you to be into that God wanted them to be into that Yo, you know how many times I put pork on my plate and people look at my plate was like Why are you eating now? I'm like, I don't know. I just like I eat pork and they're like you I don't they make me feel so much more worse than if I see two gay guys Everybody let two gay guys walk around have no problems when I got pork on my plate They make me feel like shit People judging him for eating swine. That's not true. Come on They get accepted all the time with no problem. They walked down the street On an award show right now and eat a bacon sandwich Allah's piss nobody's gonna make a YouTube Middle-East they're gonna be tight But you know how many people looking at you like bro you eat pork, you know I'm saying man Yo, they do that to me you gotta listen Eaters get it worse than gay people worse. Oh my god. Oh my god You eat pork no I don't care if a guy got pork or dick on his plate I'm not saying we care that they get more slap to say something. I have to say no You will be more you'll be more mad about that pork on your plate than seeing two gay guys I've never seen somebody get beat up for eating pork. I'm just saying you never been to the Middle East We're in America. I'm not talking about the Middle East. Well, it depends what you believe in if you're if you're Muslim I've never seen any legislation created to oppress people that eat pork Let me make a point you in the Middle East right or in parts of the world Where Islam is the religion right it is a sin to eat pork But it's a sin to be everything over but but but that's not true They'll kill you for being gay, but here's the thing. Okay, if I'm God I would be a little bit more lenient if you're gay than I would if you a pork because You could not eat pork and still feed yourself But if you're gay, there's only one thing you like. Yeah, it's dick I don't eat pork for personal, you know dietary reasons and then you don't eat dick because you're not into dicks But I don't care if somebody does either if you see somebody in pork. Are you going? I don't pay for it No, I don't about one thing I don't do if I'm paying for the food. I'd be like, no, you can't You see me do that a million times, but we see two gay guys. I got your friends. That's gay. They come over and eat Not my guy friends not my girlfriend like I'm not paying for nobody's sex. No, maybe sex No, but it's I think that I think you're hemophobic, bro I'm definitely I think you're hemophobic. I'm both a phobic. Yes I don't even like my kids watching Peppa Pig. That's how That's what I don't need to be on TV motherfucking Peppa Pig I'm tired of him and her family and her friends on my goddamn television. It's ruining the kids It's gonna make all the kids want to eat goddamn You know, it's mad funny though, it's like I'll talk to some of my gay friends and they'll be like Yo, they want to listen they want to reinforce the homophobia. So baby, you see what I'm saying We gotta stop this yo, why do we care so much about who people are sleeping with? But I have like I have gay friends and then they'll say things like this in the bag I don't know how you fuck pussy like that shit is gross like that's how you talk to me gross like the bag Yeah, like it's just nasty. How do you do that? They don't hate women at all, but they're just not biologically They say look nasty is oh look at how yeah, how does it smell? You know what I say to them What? Don't judge me because I'm not judging you. I guess what I'm saying is it makes it's not hateful at all Like I those my gay friends love women like I some of them know through my wife to be my fiance But their biological disposition is not to like women and find them sexually attractive They find them beautiful. They find them stunning But that doesn't mean they want to have sex with them Just like we can find a guy you might not feel comfortable admitting this But I can say a guy's handsome, but I don't want to have sex with him You know what I mean? So there's nothing wrong with seeing two guys make out and be like, oh, I'm not sexually into that That doesn't make you a hate like a homophobic person. You're just not sexually into that Just like the gay guys seeing a guy and a girl make out and being like, I'm not into that But back to your original point I I don't understand the moral high ground That some people stand on Especially when it comes to to American culture hip-hop culture or whatever Yeah, you know what I mean? Because you're not making videos talking about the violence against women You're not making videos talking about, you know The the celebration of the drug culture the glorification of the gang culture now listen I salute brothers that are in the noi because they're so consistent Yeah, right they will challenge you when you're talking about, you know, murdering your own fellow brother They'll challenge you when you're talking about disrespecting women and they they'll challenge you when it comes to homosexuality You know what I mean? Of course he won't but that's the but they're always Standing on a consistent piece Morality moral high ground. That's what they believe over there But it's like other people man. It's like you're complaining about little nois ex But it's just like yo when when's the last time you complained about You know these brothers that I heard rapping about killing each other son I would love one of their kids to be like since once you when you care about me this much Care about what like one of the one of the guys is complaining about the little nois ex video My kids got to watch this. I'd love one of their kids to come out and be like says when do you care about me? This first time I'm hearing from you in five years Yeah, I just it's just weird. I could I be sitting back like I don't care Yo, you know what I'm saying? Who gives a fuck fuck each other god bless But even when we talk about influences I saw somebody post this on social media earlier They was like y'all grew up on the Cosby show a different world Fresh Prince ain't y'all didn't some of y'all didn't go to college. You know what I mean? You didn't become a doctor. You didn't become a lawyer. You know what I mean? You didn't become an attorney all like, you know, fill up banks. God bless the dead was an attorney You know what I mean? Claire huckstable was an attorney. Yeah, uh, dr. Heathcliff huckstable was a doctor different world was about a bunch of kids going to college That didn't influence a lot of people to go do that type of stuff. So why do you think that? What little nois ex is doing is going to influence people that much? Well, maybe it did because You got influence off something though. Maybe it's not been those actual things But you got influence over something like I said, bnc. It was me You see what I'm saying influence you to do be out here wilding and doing the dumb shit that I was out there doing Once again, I don't think so little nois ex is not committing a crime All right, that's cool. If nothing he's doing that's criminal I could have one of the ways though. I'm just saying the way you said I I guess what I'm trying to say is like, uh People don't feel comfortable. This is the thing people are fraudulent, right? Talk to me They know how they feel, but they're not willing to be honest with their feelings Because they're worried about the reaction to their feelings. So what they do is they create a justification for those feelings that they think is okay For example, that person thinks it's uh wrong to be gay So they see somebody out there being gay publicly that doesn't sit well with them. So then they say, oh My kids I care about my kids and you can do something to my kids Which is bullshit. You just don't like it But you're not honest enough with yourself to admit it because you're worried about the backlash Because notice every single one of them has said some shit immediately afterwards. It's like, I got nothing wrong with the gay community I got By the way, it's not just hip-hop dude. I mean, that's the whole right, right? The whole right does his whole right time What are you talking about every cartoon that comes out of it? Absolutely Can we call them out the exact same way? So I don't want people to think that. I hate when they bash hip-hop and act like hip-hop. It's like, yeah, hip-hop's full of homophobic. Our black men is so homophobic. No. Them conservatives on the right, no, come on. I can argue that the white politicians on the right are more homophobic. You know why? Because they actually create the legislation that can oppress people. How is hip-hop not Ronald Reagan? Like, what do you mean? We're going to sell drugs. That's not all hip-hop, though. By the way, that's not all hip-hop. I'm making a joke here. But like, you understand what I'm saying. It's like, you can't go, oh. Hip-hop is just as American as rock and roll. Yeah, I'm not trying to make this a racial thing. I'm just trying to recreate it. I didn't say racial. You just told of yourself. I didn't say nothing about racial. We all talk about Jack Harlow. No, I said hip-hop is an American thing, just like rock and roll. Of course hip-hop is an American thing. But right now, when we're talking about it. Let's go. Let's see if he can get out of this one. It's not even get out of that. I'm picking Ronald Reagan on purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And when we say right wing, when you're going right wing, you're not talking about black, right wingers. You're talking about white, right wingers. No, that's not true. Who are you talking about, the black wingers? I did say white politicians, because those are the ones making the laws. But no, you have, yo. When you say right wing, what are we thinking of? Candace Owens will speak out against Lil Nas X. The Larry Elders of the world will speak out against Lil Nas X. Like that's, it's really like conservative values because they're so inter-religion that they think that homosexuality is like a sin. But if we're talking about a homophobia at large, it's the American issue. Like some people that are very religious, some people that are conservative just don't agree with homosexuality. So when they see Lil Nas X on their TV kissing, you know what I mean? It makes all of them react. I thought what we're doing is like trying to protect the argument. So in other words, like, it's very easy to fall into these traps where you just blame a single community for a type of behavior. And if we're talking about hip hop, regardless if we think of it as just American music or not, the general public is gonna go, this is a black art form, we're speaking about black males. You even referenced it. You've been said black males are homophobic, black males this. So I gave a right-wing perspective, which is Ronald Reagan, right? And the joke is that, it's not a joke, it's a fucked up thing, is that they sold fucking Ronald Reagan, I think when Cahoots with the fucking CIA is like dropping cocaine and crack in the black community. So, but who else is selling crack in the black community? These gangsta rappers that brag about all the weight that they push and blah, blah, blah. So it's the white man's fault. Well, you put the drugs there, yeah. You didn't have to sell it, you know what I'm saying? I mean, but that's a whole other argument. Yeah, you didn't have to sell it. But that's a whole other debate because it's just like, if you're porn disenfranchised. That's a good point. But no, if you put it there, but if you just leave it. But no, if you're porn disenfranchised and there's no other opportunity, of course you're gonna do drugs. Absolutely, you're gonna do it, but my point is, I just don't know why people care about Lil Nas X so much. God bless that brother, man. Like why is that, why did that make people so irate this week? Did it make them irate? Because it went viral. It's not even, they're not even irate. He went out. That's the thing is like, I don't even think people are that angry at it. They just saw it, they reacted to it and because it's a hot button topic, the news outlets pick it up, right? There could have been a shooting at the BET Awards this week and I don't think, you might have saw some videos of people like, yo, we gotta stop the violence or something like that, but it wouldn't have caused the type of vitriol, like, yo, y'all can't be doing this. You know what I'm saying? Y'all shooting at the BET Awards, you're sending my kids the wrong message. Yada, yada, yada, like, come on, man. Come on. Like let's not act, let's not stand, we're all standing on shaky moral high ground. What would you like the reaction to be? Like what do you think the ideal reaction to it is? To be honest with you, I don't know. Because I saw it and I didn't think, I'm just like, boy, that's a wild boy there. Here's a better question. That's all I said to myself. That's a wild boy. Here's a better question. When Madonna and Britney Spears, I think, I remember that. Made out. It was Britney and another girl was up there too. I think it was Christina Aguilera. But I think it was Britney and Madonna. No, she kissed both of them. Oh, she kissed both of them. Yeah, whoever it was, she kissed both of them. I can't remember who the other person was, but she kissed both of them. Okay, so when that happened, I think there was like Christian pushback to that too. Ask me what I thought about that situation. I'll ask your hand. Ask me. Yeah. What is it? I said, Madonna's a wild girl. That's a wild girl right there. For real though, it's just like certain people push to envelope. There's a meme of this. I can't take credit for it, but it's something like this. Like, you know, when I saw that Madonna thing with the kiss and Britney Spears, it's like, on one hand, I'm looking at this. There could be children watching this and this could influence them to do certain things that I don't think are morally responsible. And on the other hand, there was lotion. That right there? That right there shows the balance of life. Yeah. That's exactly how people feel. You know what I mean? It's on one hand, you're like, well, the Bible said, but that's... My whole point with all of this is you cannot stand on shaky, moral high ground and be pointing the finger at me. My whole point is... It's not bothering nobody. How lit is the Bible that was still going off from it today? Man. That's super lit. Nah, that Bible ain't no joke, bro. But it really got power in the door. Some songs are trash after 10 years, 20 years. That's just been around for thousands of years. That Bible is hitting bars over and over. And it's such an ill document because people ignore it when it comes to their own shit. And then when it comes to other people's shit, look right here, bro. Look right here, it says you shouldn't be doing this. You shouldn't. You shouldn't. But you have violated everything. He said thou, not the guy who said me. That's right, that's right. It didn't say me. It said thou, thou shall not. It's like, come on, man. I want Nas, listen. I like envelope pushes. I don't even think Lil Nas is pushing the envelope. I just think Lil Nas is being Lil Nas. That's what he's into. He's a gay man. And I salute him for living his truth. You know what I mean? He knows the reaction he's gonna get and that's why he does it. But at the same time, he's living his truth. So he's like, if I live my truth and it has this reaction, that's a win-win. Like most people can't wait. Most people can't wait to stir some shit up, create some controversy. He just gotta be himself to create controversy. Do you think it's him or the people around him who are doing that? No, it's him. I think it's him. I think it's all him. Yes, man. We didn't even scratch the surface of Lil Nas X with the old time role. He did that record. It was a cool record. He got it off. But man, if you're being honest, Lil Nas X elevated when he set himself free. If he would have still been in the closet trying to make records just to stay on, it wouldn't have been organic. It wouldn't have been authentic. Not if he's being his true authentic self. He get another number one record. He's making the videos he wanna make. That's what happened when you come out being gay. That's what happened. But I bet you you come out saying, tell anybody you eat pork, it's gonna go less. Man, it's good. If you get gay, you go up. You eat pork, you go down. I hide my plate every time I put another plate on top and I know I got pork on my plate. I really wish we had somebody from the LGBT community in here right now to tell him how crazy he sounds. The LGBT community. It's like, God damn, are you trying to say that? I'm not even having this conversation. No, I'm not even in the team. No, it's that what I'm saying. Nah, then we need to talk about it. Because people we pork are discriminating against, bruh. Man, stop. They are. They can't get to heaven. Yo, God, why'd you make that animal so delicious if we can't eat it? Put it on a grill. Put barbecue sauce. Barbecue sauce. Deuteronomy 14-8 says, you should not touch the flesh of a dead pig. Nonetheless. So how you know that you don't know nothing about the gay thing? You going to hell. Waxed by your own logic. Okay? You are going to hell. God, don't forgive me for eating that pork. No, you're not. And I'm asking for forgiveness again. No, you're not. So God, don't forgive about your... No doubt. If you give me seven times seven. Listen, my, my, my try to say. My pops still leave. You just went, You just... You start speaking in tongues, bro. Yo, God took over in that moment. Long as you guys just forgive me. You had enough of waxing that moment. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. No. No, no, no, no, no. Speak it in tongues. Speak it in tongues. Speak it in tongues. Speak it in tongues. Speak it out of the band. Speak it out of the band. Speak it out of the band. Boy, you going to be passing so bad. That's why you got ballspots. That's why he's balling. That's why he's got to be rubbing on that head trying to get the shit out of him. That's why I got that ball spot, exactly. Get the shit out of this man. This man. Lord have mercy. I used to get a lot of prayer for real. My mom always used to tell me, go pray for me. Pray for that one. Listen, I want Lil Nas X to keep pushing the envelope. I want him to make out with a pig. Oh my gosh. What if he eat pork? To make out with a pig, man. Yo, Lil Nas X eat pork. I bet you Lil Nas X don't eat pork. I bet you he don't. What does that make you? Dude, what does that make you? I'm half of him. What does that make you? I don't know. You said it. You buy? No, cause he just. You don't. You know? You are buy, dude. No, how am I buy pork? You're buy pork, yeah. I'm buy pork, you're buy pork, kid. Hey, Lil Nas X, you keep doing your thing, bro. Blessings, bro. Okay, I want to see. I ain't mad at you. I want you to, man, keep pissing these people off. Cause they just, hey, everybody's so full of shit. It comes to like just who does what and who does this and this person, she can do this, this person, she can do that. Like that's my point. I don't get, like when I say I don't care, it's just like, bro, are y'all serious? Yeah. Let that man live his life. Yeah. We all trying to figure it out. And you know what? I gotta applaud anybody who's living their truth. Live free, man. Be who you are, man. I'd rather you do that than kill yourself. Cause a lot of people will like just kill theirself. Think about that. That's fucked up. Yeah. And honestly. They just come out. Honestly, that's real. It's hot, it's hot. That's real. That's real. Climate change is real. You know what I'm saying? What? You didn't hear what he said. If you heard what he said, it would make sense. He said it's hot in that closet. Oh my God it is. And I said climate change is real cause the temperature is sky high. We ain't got time for this shit, man. I'm out free for a second, bro. You know how they always like, he's just a left wing mouthpiece hired by the Democratic party. They be saying that about Charlemagne. I'm like, for a second I'm like, I looked at you like, oh, hey, what the fuck? You just went from the gay project to the climate change that quick. What else do we need? He tries to negone control. Listen, all I'm simply saying is what Wax said is true. When you can't be free, you kill yourself. Yeah, you don't have to kill yourself. A lot of people be doing that. I'm telling you, let people be who they are when you make people feel like they gotta marginalize themselves. When you make people feel small and you make people feel like they're not accepting, that's when they go out there and make permanent decisions based off temporary. Man, they gonna kill you, bro. So if I see, they're gonna kill you, bro. I don't give a damn. Cause yesterday for your birthday, you dropping it like it's hot. Today you're wearing a fucking female NBA jersey. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. How important it is to kiss dudes. Let's be clear, there's no female NBA jersey. This is the motherfucking South Carolina legend, A.J. motherfucking Asia Wilson. Yeah, fire, yeah. Asia is fire. Asia got a statue in front of the colonial life arena. And you know, I'm rooting for everybody from South Carolina all the way. I haven't seen you wore the jersey of that lineman that played for South Carolina. What's that guy's name? Who? He was nice. He went to Tampa Bay now. He was nice. No, but she's from South Carolina. We know her peoples and like just like family. Her brother Puff, like I know Asia. I played football with her brother like real. Yeah, I've been watching Asia since she was in college at the University of South Carolina. Like she went to high school in South Carolina. Like she's really a South Carolina legend. I got a Chris Middleton jersey at the crib too. No you don't. I just didn't wear it, Chris Middleton from the A-43. No they won. He began busy though. Oh, the Bucks lost. Who you talking about? They won. Oh, knock it off. The Bucks lost last night. No, Trey Young went down with the ankle injury. And so did Giannis. Oh, that's right. I'm thinking two games ago. No. Giannis got his leg injured. Yeah, last night, the Hawks won last night. That was over. Yeah, it might be a wrap. Chris Middleton's from the A-43 with the Porta Gal High School in Charleston, South Carolina. Now listen, I love seeing my people from South Carolina prospering. You got Zion? No, I don't got no Zion yet. Only reason I don't got no Zion yet because it's Zion. But it's too poppin'. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I love Zion. I love them. And the difference is, and I'm South Carolina all day, the whole state, but that's upsting. Like Asia is from the Metro. No, she right there. I got my own day in Columbia. You know what I'm saying? My wife went to the university in South Carolina. Charlamagne and Godday. You know what I mean? There you go. That's what I was asking. What? That's what I was wondering. What day? What day, motherfucker? Like of the month. Do you have a gun, Joe? No. I thought it was June TV. I'm all about South Carolina all day. That's my state, bruh. That's my state. I got my back. That's my state. What day is it? It's fucking broad, so. You got a move. One day in New York. It's April something, man. One day in April something in my ass. You know why I don't know the date? June 18th. No, no. I'm pretty sure it's definitely in April. But I've been trying to put together a... Hold on, hold on. Watch that shit, not even in April. I'ma go ahead, I'ma go ahead. Go, keep telling your lie. Keep telling your lie. I've been trying to put together a... No, he definitely got it. Keep telling your lie, bruh. Keep telling your lie. Keep digging your grave, bruh. No, I've been trying to put... I've been trying to put together a Shalemain the God day for that day since I got the day. And my homegirl, her name is Michelle Austin. God bless the dead. Michelle was the Promotions Director at Hot1039 in Columbia, South Carolina. So she's been talking to me about putting it together. We were supposed to do something last year and then COVID hit. And then we couldn't do it this year because we were still in the pandemic. So 2022. And I'm still going to do it. But Michelle was like really, really, really orchestrating it and putting it together and everything else. So, you know, rest in peace to Michelle Austin. But it's definitely in April. Do you know what day it is? Shalemain the God day in South Carolina? Columbia, South Carolina, what day is it? June 29th. Oh, it's not the birthday. Which is impressive that you forgot it. That's not the day! That's the day? It's not! Is it your birthday, bruh? No, I got the proclamation at the house. She's not even talking to me. When you got to ask them, they gave it to him. I got the proclamation at the house. It's not in June. If it was my birthday, I would know. I wish it was my birthday. That'd be so easy. It is your birthday, bruh. No, it's not. It may not be your birthday. It's not my birthday. I know for a fact it's not my birthday. It's in April. I got the proclamation at the house from Stephen Benjamin. I don't think it's your birthday either. No, it's not. It's not what you guys. It's actually April 8th. No, it's not. Yes, it is. This is made that shit up, though. It's April 8th. Yeah, it's possible. I'm looking at it right now. Look, because I'm looking at when they gave me the award. So how much do I got donated to a university to get that shit? What? That wasn't from the school. That was from Steve Benjamin, the mayor of Columbia, South Carolina. Oh, really? Yeah, April 8th. April 8th is Charlemagne the God Day in Columbia, South Carolina. Next year, we're definitely doing something. Is that when they made you a Democratic operative? No, man. You are a Democratic operative, right? It depends. We had Secretary Peter on yesterday. He told me I was too hard on him. How? Wait a minute, what? That's kind of stupid. They told me I was too hard on him. What do you mean? I don't know. He said I was pressing him too much, because my whole thing was saying to him, like, I mean, we was having a great conversation, but it was like, what was it about? A lot of different things. I asked him, I said, do you think that the fate of, because they always say democracy is at stake? So do you think America's democracy is at stake? And he's like, yeah. And I'm like, well, how come Democrats don't act like it? Because if something is at stake, Yeah, for right. If it's going to be the end of something as we know it. You'll put your all in. Imagine if the Avengers were just sitting around like, oh, you know, and if there was no sense of urgency at the end of the end game. House of fire. If there was no sense of urgency in Infinity War, how would you be looking at the Avengers? Well, that's how that Miss Universe was the name of the girl. Oh, Captain Marvel. Pops in whenever she feels like it. Captain Marvel was the illest. Nah. Nah, I'll tell you why. Captain Marvel said the illest shit in all the end game and people forget about it. When Don Cheadle goes, where the fuck have you been? And she goes, you know, it's more than one planet out here in this solar system and they don't have you, motherfuckers. That's a perfectly great logical answer. What do you tell you? You got Thor here, the Incredible Hulk? What y'all need me for? So that's what a husband's supposed to say to his wife. There's so many fucking girls out here. How are you expecting this? All right. It made sense, right? I'm thinking I'm searching. Hold on, I'm Dr. Strange in it. Let me see. It's about 14 million different logical explanations for that. I guess. No, no, haven't found one. Dr. Strange at least found one. I didn't find one in what you said, just now. What'd you say? I'm saying, like you said, there's so many other planets out here, so many other women out here. That's why I'm in to go out. Is that how you feel like? No, no, not at all. I'm happy. I'm probably going to get married before you because I didn't know you were going to get married so fast. So I'm like, I want to beat you. I always wanted to beat you before you did that. No, you're not going to beat me, bro. Is that soon? He said December. December, bro. I ain't even here to hear that. When are you guys going on vacation, by the way? Next week. No, no, no. When you guys take care. Don't you take winter? Oh yeah, I'm taking the whole month of December off, bro. Oh, so you guys probably won't be able to be there. When is it? Yeah, I figured that out. December 18. I thought I'm taking the whole month off. Oh, but I thought you usually go to Anguilla. No, I'm not going to my Anguilla for a month. I'll probably go to Anguilla like after Christmas. Yeah, so when, okay. So is it around or a destination or is it around? It will be on the West Coast. Okay, I'm not mad. Not too big. You got it already planned out and everything. All right, okay. How much work did you do on this? None of it. Okay, first. I don't feel so bad. I ain't not supposed to. I ain't not supposed to. It's not our day. It's not our day. We got dressed like everybody else. That's right. That's right. You the only one in a white dress. I'm dressed like all my friends. Bro. She said I could wear a white T, but I got the... You can't wear white. Don't do that, man. Don't wear white. You talking about it's gonna be dope. You put on a tie to go to court, but not for your wedding? I went to court when I tied. Yes. No, I did not. You never went to... Yes, you did. Hell, no, I did not. What'd you have on the court? I had a black T on. That was my... You're a liar. Oh, yeah. You're lying. You're a goddamn liar. No, I had some baggy ass church pants. I had some black T. That's my dress shirt. No, I did have some slippery shoes, though. But I didn't have a black T on. He's lying. You were there? No. But he had on a shirt and tie. No, I did not go with shirt and tie. When you were saying amazing grace. I did not have a shirt and tie because I went with my coach. He took me from football practice. My coach took me to court. Man, they should have put you in jail. He's still with my sister. This is gonna give you a little light here. I can't believe you with disrespect to court like that. I was tired of that shit, man. We talking about. You were clean. It was like, listen, whatever this charge is, you gonna take me, you're not gonna take me. No, that's not true. You did beat it. Praise the Lord. So it was all God. It's all God. Sounds like he wanted to be out of there. In church, they say come as you are. So I guess it doesn't matter. So you think I'm gonna really act like that for that? Yeah, if you got an anointing on your life, you might as well. Praise the Lord. But for her, you should show her that I care about you in a real way. Like fuck people up, man. Come out there in the suit and tie. You know what I mean? A nice fitted joint. Everybody be like, oh, shit. I never seen waxed a T-shirt. You wore a suit to his wedding. I know. You definitely did. I didn't even recognize you. You did? You did? You did? I did. You did? And you didn't have your hat on? That was another thing. You know what? Don't tell her this because she's gonna make you mad. No, call us right. You won't call us. That's right. He definitely had a suit on. I told her I couldn't fit suits. That's right. You look weird without a hat on, too. Like you look different. Anna Frosty's wedding, you had a suit and tie on. It did. Yeah. I didn't have a tie. Yes, you did. No, I didn't because they couldn't find a tie. Yes, you did because everybody was like, yo, they would. They would bet. They would bet on a tie if Wack could wear Tim's with his suit. Well, he wear Tim's in the fitted with his suit. He kept the fitted on. He didn't wear the Tim. No, no, I wore the Tim's. I didn't have to fit it. You didn't have to fit it? I don't fucking remember. Did he just want to see the bald spot? That's it. How big is it? He's like, yo, put this back in the conversation about Lil Nas X later so we can have a show to ask him Wack's how big it is. You know what I mean? Just so they don't sound too homophobic. OK? I'm homophobic. I'm not. I just don't care. I want him to go make out and shit. I want him to fucking do Biggie's 10 crack commandments over and really piss all of y'all the fuck off. And how would he do it? I don't know. But you figure it out. 10 crack commandments. What? Number 10. Don't eat pork. What? What is number 10? You got the 10 crack commandments. What? It starts at 10, right? I don't know. I'm not playing anything. If it's 10 crack commandments, I hope so. Maybe it starts at 1. It goes to 10. But no, let's, huh? Maybe it starts at 1 and goes to 10. How does it start off? Number 10. Oh yeah, it starts off at 10. It goes down and counts down. 10. Rule number uno. Rule number uno. Never let no one know. How much dough you home? OK, yeah, I guess it is 1. The jealousy. What is it now that there's something? Jealousy. Jealousy. Jealousy. Yeah, the Chetabreeds jealousy. Get your ass fucked up. Let's lose to Biggie, man. We miss Biggie so much, man. Number one, Biggie, Biggie, Biggie balanced things out. You know what I'm saying? Biggie comes from an era where you could say she looks so good. I suck on her daddy's dick and nobody flinched. Yo, nobody asked who he was looking at. I would love to know who that girl is. They love calling me gay. Guess who don't give a fuck? You. I bet you'd be mad somebody say you eat pork. No, I don't eat no pork. I would. That's what I'm trying to say. But they call you gay. They don't say you suck dicks. And they don't say you take it in the ass. They absolutely do. I need to read that. And you know what I do? Feed into it. What do you do? What do you do? Yeah, man. I've been trolling people for a year. I used to have the dolls behind me. That was hilarious. That was hilarious. Nobody. It was so funny watching people go crazy on YouTube. My people's mad at me like, yo, bro, what's up, yo? I used to have the two male dolls in the back, the envy doll, and the shawlamane doll, and have them in different sexual positions. Every interview. And people would just, they would go crazy in the YouTube comments. I would never, listen, I would never say anything about it. Just every day. If you're right behind my shoulder. I'm on it just talking about whatever. I never mentioned them. What? Real serious conversations too. Serious. Serious. Yo, so much to the point. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. I had a whole lot of fun. You get the point. I had a whole storyline. I had a whole storyline of videos with them dolls because at the end, I had two I put two girl dolls upstairs. It was a diamond and crime. Diamond and Princess doll from crime mob. And I put, I've been delivered. Oh, my God. And I had my own way around both dolls. And put envy off to the side, looking sad. I had a couple of dolls. I did a lot of shit like that. I don't give a fuck. I can understand why Lil Nas is doing it. Number one, that's who he is. But number two, he's like, fuck y'all, y'all gonna be mad anyway. Let me throw the shit out y'all motherfuckers. Rule number one. Let's play some bills, Alex. All right guys, we're gonna take a break for a second because we need to make sure that you're delivering the best dick possible. And the way you're gonna do that is with blue chew, it's a no-brainer. Okay, you wanna satisfy your wife, you wanna satisfy your girlfriend, you wanna satisfy your side chick. You're gonna do it with the chew. 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We're gonna be adding more. I think we added another one in San Diego. The first one got sold out, man. Thank you guys so much for coming to these shows and supporting everything and the special tapings in Austin are all sold out, but we're gonna see. Maybe we added another one there. New succumb next week. Thank y'all so much, man. I really appreciate it. And yeah, this tour is gonna be wild. So I'm excited for y'all to see it. Waxy? You got some, Church Announcements? Yes, almost all of my herbs is out there. And LA, please go get that. And I also have the Fourth of July sell for my lemonade. Only I do this go to Wax Fourth of July and get 25% off, you know what I'm saying? Go to whoswax.net and go get some of that lemonade y'all need. You a sell out, bro. You ain't do no wax Juneteenth. You gonna wax both of y'all. You know what I don't even know it's all about. Anyway, just listen. At the end of the day, I'm gonna get more and more lemonade so it's gonna be a day for wax. What discount would you give for Juneteenth? Like who's black? Who's black with whoswax? Listen, a Juneteenth, I give a first hunt it off. Matter of fact, if you put a cold Juneteenth, it did? How later? You did. That is a new holiday, man. I ain't even get with the old holidays. I'm gonna get with the new holidays, a new holiday. Your new Fourth of July. Because look how long it's been. That's a good point. You know what I'm saying? I'm just glad. If you want me to remember, it's Wanzer. OK, over Christmas this week. You can't remember your own holiday. April, um... Stop, stop. April 8th, baby. It's the old holiday, you know what I'm saying? God Day, Columbia, South Carolina. Listen, blackaffect.com. Make sure you go to blackaffect.com. Subscribe to all the podcasts we got on the Black Effect. We launched the What Podcast with Nyla Simone and Mouse Jones, executive produced by Darren Byrne. 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I don't know what's going on. They said it was test ballots. I don't know what the hell's going on. Now the election's rigged. I see. What do you mean, election's been rigged? Trump won. So you're trying to say Trump didn't do that? Yeah, election's been rigged. But what else? Oh, Tamika Mallory, state of emergency, how to win in the country we built best seller. It's out right now on Black Privilege Publishing. And this beauty right here, man. August 3rd, shallow waters, Anita Copax, okay? And this stirring and lyrical debut novel, perfect for fans of the water dancer and the legacy of Orisha series, the Yoruba deity of the sea. Yemiya is about to vivid life as she discovers the power of black resilience, love and feminine strength in antebellum America. This will be out August 3rd on Black Privilege Publishing everywhere you buy books, but you can pre-order now, shallow waters by Anita Copax. Now. All right, boy. You can sell some books. You make me want to read. Hey, man, you know? I ain't do it yet, but you make me want to read the way you say it. I probably, I picked up a book and I said, why? Who doesn't want to read books? I ain't do nothing to me yet. I don't, I mean, my mother was an English teacher. You know what I'm saying? So she kept a book in my face. And she was a Jehovah Witness. If I wasn't reading my book of Bible stories or something out of the Bible, it was go get something from the library. And we had the bookit program. You know what I mean? You had to read four books to get a free pizza. So my mama was like, yo, make sure you read things that don't pertain to you. And I like pizzas. I used to run through a bunch of books. I like to read. I'm reading. Right now I'm reading. Let's talk about the news. No, no, no. Let's talk about the other shit. What is that? We got you a cake. Oh, that's beautiful, man. Absolutely. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. I'm a white homie singing Stevie Wonder version. And none of my black homies singing Stevie Wonder version. Let me y'all wait. I'm mumbling. This is homie there. Happy birthday. Hey. Do the old fast one. Happy birthday to you. Boom. Happy birthday to you. Boom. Happy birthday, dear Charlamagne the girl. Menard. Happy birthday to you. Yay. Thank y'all. Light of blunt wax. I'm out too. Yo, can we get some 4% nods? I got to jump on this Zoom, man. I was wondering, bro, what did you do? What type of cake is that? Who you like, men pocket? What type of cake is that, anyway? I forgot I had to get on this Zoom real quick. Oh, it's ice cream. Ice cream. Oh, it's for cookie, though. That's fine. Thank you for the cake, man. Yo. You're welcome. You know, I was talking to y'all earlier. You know, we had Ebony Williams on the show. Our homie, Ebony Williams. She's the host of the Holding Court podcast on the Black Effect I Heart Radio Podcast Network. First Black Housewife on the Real Housewives in New York. This is a very sharp, sharp young lady. And I loved the conversation that Ebony had. I'm actually going to send it to you, Alec, so you can, you know, insert it. But basically, Ebony said she would be the type of wife that would curate the house, make sure the house looks good, make sure the house smells good, make sure the house is always clean. You'd have a hot meal every day, you know what I mean? Everything. She would hold everything down at the house, but she don't want to pay no bills. She was like, I don't want to pay not a lick of mortgage, because if I'm doing everything the wife is supposed to do, you're the husband. That's what you're supposed to do. What if I hire someone to do all the things that she just said? Well, what if I hire... What if I hire a paying in ship, though? What if I hire a personal chef? What if I hire a clean lady? You would the same. Even with that, even with that, your wife, I believe, would still be holding down certain things just because that's what wives do. You know what I mean? Because guess what? You know what I'm saying? So even if you're hiring those people to do certain things, the woman in the house still has to dictate what needs to be done where. I guess it depends on what the house looks like. Like at a certain point in time, there's diminishing returns for like cleaning the house and cooking. Like if you got a one-bedroom apartment and you cook clean, take care of everything, groceries there, we're good. She also said kids too. And with the ill thing that she said... Well, kids is different. She don't have any kids, so we don't know if that's true. But just the ill thing she said, she didn't just say her kids, she said, your kids. You know what I mean? So she said, your kids, possibly your kids, so you might come in with kids. If she's willing to hold that down. I'm just saying, like if we're living in like a $25 million mansion, if you think it's an even exchange for like preparing my scrambled eggs in the morning and me buying a $25 million mansion, like you got something off. Yeah, but guess what? You're lying to yourself. Every man lies in himself. Would you rather have the $25 million mansion or a bad woman? $25 million. You're a liar. Because that mansion comes with bad women. But that's the point. Either way, you still want the woman. You're still going to get a woman there. And you're not going to want something just to smash all of it. No, I'll take my wife over anything. I thought we just... Well, you said bad woman. I thought you just meant like... What does that mean? Your wife is a bad woman? No, no, no, no, no, no. I thought you meant just like a bad... I thought you were afraid to say bad bitch. No, no, no. Your wife is a bad woman. Of course, of course, of course, of course, of course. No, no, no, I hear what you're saying, like... I don't know. I personally like that. I just don't... I like that equation. I love being taken care of. I think it's a really amazing situation and really honestly, like it taps into my heart. Like, if a girl takes care of me and she wants me to be taken care of, my girl takes care of me. That's why you take care of her? Absolutely. That's why you take care of that mortgage and the bills and everything else. The reason I like what Ebony said is because it was Ebony saying it. Because you always had a chick that ain't got nothing. Yeah. Talking about how, you know, she wanted a man to take care of. Oh, interesting. You know what I'm saying? Nah, that's interesting. If always the chick who can't take care of themself, that's saying they want a man to take care of everything. Did you hear that dizzy fucking chick the other day on it was going viral a little bit and she was like, her ex put her in a new apartment, but he got to keep paying for it because he brought her up to a new lifestyle and he can't just take her away from that new lifestyle since... Now, ex what? Ex boyfriend. Oh, no, ex boyfriend. No way. Ex boyfriend, you don't owe that. Ex husband. Right, though? You saw the clip on something about? Ex husband, yes. Ex boyfriend, no. Wait, hold on. Ex husband, if we're married and then we become divorced, I still got to pay your bills. If you bought me to this lifestyle, yes. That's actually what happened. So you want to make her go back to the ghetto or the projects or wherever she was going? Oh yeah, you got to talk to me. Yes. No, no, no, no. They're coming after you. No, no, you can't even do that. And you have me in a mansion? Yeah, I'm not going to say who it is, but I'll tell you after the pod, I was at this person's really big plush house and they were like, yeah, my wife got the same kind of house right down the street. And I'm like, really? And it was like, yeah, because, you know, when you get a divorce, when she goes to court, she has to maintain the same lifestyle that you did, especially being that they got young kids. You can't do that. Why? I don't know. That's the way it works. Mommy house is over there. Daddy house is over here. Ain't going to do it. Where's the patriarchy when it comes to this shit? Hey, man, you double stand this baby. That's right. This guy lived a certain lifestyle. His wife was with him. They had kids. You can't scale down. But it speaks to kind of what Ebony says, because she says she'll work. I mean, she'll stop working and take care of the house. So it was like she had to sacrifice her career. Okay. That's a good point. I don't know if Ebony said that, but I like that. I like when you took the conversation. I like that logic, but these rules... I know she said that. These rules were put in place when women weren't working. I like that idea. If you come up with somebody, I don't see why they shouldn't have half. Oh, but God forbid... I don't even put it out there. But we know what he's saying. God forbid me and my wife ever got divorced, which will never happen. I hope not. But God forbid, right? Yes. Absolutely take half. Yeah. You know what I mean? For 23 days. Because you helped build the whole thing. Yes, you have to be there. You married some girl. It doesn't work out after a year. And now you got to keep this girl on a mansion for the rest of life. That's crazy. We want prenup. We want prenup. Hell yeah. I think you should go in with a prenup and then take the prenup after like five years, six years. No, no, I don't ever take it away. I knew a guy who did that. Oh yeah? He ripped it up after they're like second kid or third kid. He was like, nah. You know, you deserve half. If you do it, I give you half. That's different. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, second, third kid's different. Because it's like five years to kids. You're going to want her to be good. You're going to want the kid to be good, whatever. That's kind of interesting. The idea like all... I mean, we kind of have a prenup built into a lot of marriages, right? Like I think they say that if you're married less than a year, it's a nold or something like that, or less than a month. Oh, well Kim Kardashian did. Was that it? She got one of her marriages a nold. I think that's her. I think it was like right before they supposed to be like locked in. She got out of there. Exactly. So now nobody gets anything. So it's almost like the law understands sometimes you make a mistake. So we're going to give you a little room to see if you made the mistake. And what you're basically saying is, well, why don't you give me a little bit more room than that? Let's do a five year period where everybody had a prenup. And if you make it past that five years, it's like hopefully by then you got a family. You guys have been invested in different things. You put time into your businesses, your life. She deserves some of that. I love that, but it's a lot of different circumstances that have to be involved. Like you said, two or three kids, man. Five years, you know what I'm saying? We don't got no kids. Even if you get one, I ain't giving you half. You don't need half of... If I got a billion dollars, why do you need half of my billion dollars to get one kid? Oh, that's another thing. Like we got it like there's limits for how much athletes get paid, but not wives. That's crazy. Salary cap. What a goddamn salary cap. Think about that. Like if 30 million is enough for LeBron now, like if the NBA says that's enough for LeBron to make, he shouldn't make any more than 30 million. How the fuck can Jeff Bezos' wife make 8 billion or whatever the fuck it is? Now she started the company with him and I understand that she was doing instrumental and building it, so she deserves hers on that level. I'm not saying she's not. But maybe there's a better example of a wife that did not do that. She married a super rich guy and now he got to hit her off with hundreds of millions of dollars and say, come on, bro. You know what I'm wrong? The thing I saw was Dr. Dre's wife asking for money, all this money, but I don't care about the money part. It was the, I want money for charity. You already get... You're a charity. It's a piece of dollars. You want me to give you money to give the charity? So who gets the karma? Who gets the blessing? Do you get the blessing? Because it's my money? I'm giving you money to give the charity? Jeff Bezos' wife, she got the money. She uses that money that she got to give the charity. She's doing a lot of them. Why would I need to pay you to donate the charity? That was wild. I don't know if she wanted that, but just the request was wild. She's doing a lot. She just wanted to hit on anywhere. Bad lawyer or just somebody who's greedy. She just wanted to get as much as possible. Just as much as possible. Being greedy, you ain't got to be like, take it out the way. But I do respect what Ebony said. I think what Ebony said was very clear and it was very fair. And the key thing that she said was, this is what I think. She wasn't making no generalizations. She was like, she said, I'm going to do X, Y, and Z. And this is what I want you to do. I don't have a problem with that because I think a man's job is to protect and provide. Yes. And I've been on both sides. You know what I'm saying? When I first got five from Wendy Williams show back in the day, I was too proud to go collect unemployment. I was at home with my oldest daughter when she was born, because I got five November 2008. She was born June 2008. I stayed home with my baby while my wife went to work. You know what I'm saying? When Bill, we got behind on Bill's and you know, we was late on rent. She's the one that had to go stand in front of the courtroom and let the courtroom know why we weren't able to pay our bills. Really? Hell yeah. My wife held it all the way down. You know what I'm saying? So it was just like, for me, it's like now tables have turned in a very significant way. I don't want her to do nothing. She does her personal training on the side and she holds it down. She holds that house. She's the CEO of the house. That's what she does. Look, I love that too. And I think it's like unfortunate. I think here's the big misconception is that men are not supportive of a woman who wants to take care of the house and take care of the kids every big week. We absolutely are, 100%. I love it. I think the pushback comes when like there's an entitlement, especially from woman who doesn't even have kids with you and feels like they deserve this treatment because they're with you. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody deserves anything like, we both play roles in the relationship. And like, you're not doing me a favor by taking care of the house. I'm not doing you a favor by working. We both work together to build this. That's right, that's right, that's right. So I think that's where we get a little bit resentful. It's like, well, I don't tell you every single day, you know what I did? I worked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need to thank you. I don't need none of that. But you get to go outside though. You get to see your friends. I can't see my friends at work except that's what I do for work. Yeah, and I think we should respect the fact of a woman who can do her own thing. You know what I'm saying? If a woman can do her own thing, if a woman can make her own money, if a woman's already educated and she's choosing to play the role of the housewife and she's like, you know what? You want me to cool out and kick it at the house and take care of the house, take care of the kids. You gotta respect that. Because she's literally giving up her dreams and aspirations to hold it down for the family. That's the ultimate sacrifice. 100%. You know what I mean? And guess what? If I could do it, I would too. You wouldn't sit your house away? I don't think so. I don't mean either. No, I ain't gonna lie to you because I see what she's doing and I cannot do it. Like as a superwoman, there's no way. I was gonna go crazy over her taking too long. She said she's gonna take a shower. She was on the phone for like 15 minutes before she went to shower. I was catching that whole attitude. Like you said you were taking a shower I'm already timing you. You 22 minutes or something. You know what I'm saying? When you go past that 22 minutes, yeah. Hey man, I tried to say it on this podcast a few weeks ago. It's just a thing that women have with the kids that men don't have. And guess what? I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. I don't want it. My five year old into your old abuse me. And I'm screaming for help. I'm no, I love my baby. I love them, but no. I really can't do it yet. Give me a little couple more years. I promise you I got you. We can go do things together. When they older? Peace. Cool. You know what I'm saying? When they babies and five and two, it's like I'm not built for it. Daddy ain't built for it. How many times am I gonna do this? What did you do during that time where you were unemployed and then you guys were kind of struggling where you're trying to get a job? Stupidest shit in the world. Ghostface music, soul child song, love. Ever the baby will start crying. No, no, not to take care of the baby. What did he do? To get a job, like, were you scrambling? Did you ever think about not following your passion in radio? No, I was, yo, man, I was just waiting on God. I knew what it was. In my life, that's been my life. And that's what I tell people all the time. You get to a certain point that when you look back, you know whatever setback, you know what I'm saying, happens in your life is just like, I don't know God got something greater. And that's literally what I was doing. I was just sitting back. My daughter was born in June. Wife was going to work. I'm gonna sit here with my baby and I'm gonna just wait on God. And at that time, that was 2008, I just had got on Twitter. Because I remember those days vividly because we all kept telling me, get on Twitter, get on Twitter, get on Twitter. I'm like, what the hell is Twitter? So I tried it and I didn't know they had ad replies. So I would tweet and be like, man, this shit is wack. Man, like y'all, that's all you do is just talk to yourself all day. And he was like, bruh, hit the act. I'm like, what the hell is the act? He was like that little squirrely, you know I do all the time, that little squirrely sign, shit. Looks like a cinnamon roll. So I hit it. I hit it. And I'm like, oh, shit. And then you get to see all these people that fuck with you, you know what I'm saying? And people that miss you because you ain't on the radio and no money. And I'm like, oh, wow. I still ain't know that. Yeah. I remember seeing Emma Angelie using my mentions and I'm like, oh, shit, Angelie. Hit her up. I just hit her. She was like, yo, come on my radio show. That's what she was doing. Chain 45 morning show. So that time I was, I was fired. I think I went up to her show like a couple of times. Get out of here. Yeah, to do satellite radio. And then I mean, between that and Wendy's show, that's when I got the call to come do morning radio in Philadelphia. So between that and Wendy's show? So after you- No, between Wendy's show and Philly. Yeah, I ended up, yeah, between Wendy's show, I was at home with my first daughter and then I ended up going to do morning radio in Philadelphia. And then how much time passed? From November, like November, I was fired from November 2009 to May of 2010. Oh wow. So significant amount. Oh yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. I was at home for like five, six months. And were you like trying to get a job? Were you calling people? Well, we had, it was social media at that time. So social media was the thing. We'd be tweeting. And like I said, I would go up to Angela's show. I went up to Angela's show a couple of times in shade 45. I think me and Duvall was still doing hood state of the union, you know what I mean? So stuff like that was out there. It wasn't like, my voice wasn't being heard. It just wasn't radio. And then I ended up getting the gig in Philly. And what was so great about the gig in Philly, now I understood how to use the internet. So when I was doing my interviews in Philly, I knew what websites to send them to, I knew where to post them. And that's why that stuff would go viral. So I did, I had like the interview with Cassie and Red Cafe, that went crazy viral. Had another interview, the Beanie Seagull, that's the one, that's the last interview I did before I get fired, that went crazy viral. So I just knew how to utilize the internet. Freeway Ricky Ross, he was another one. I interviewed him in Philly, put that out online. So I understood how to use, utilize the internet. So that time I was off, helped me to understand the internet in the real way. And then went to Philly and used it a lot. And that's what ended up getting me on Power 1.5. You got fired in Philly. And then you're again unemployed. Oh yeah, I had to go back home. I had to go back home and live with my mom then. How long? I was there for a year. Really? The whole year? And did you immediately go back home? Yeah. Cause we had already cleaned out the house cause I cleaned out the apartment to move to Philadelphia to do radio. And then you got fired. The day of, the day of. I had all my shit in the car, I had to move off cause I picked the wallet from the airport. And I had, no, I had got fired. I could have had all my stuff in cause after work I was going to go take some stuff over to the house. I got fired. I think that Monday I picked Duvall up. And you know, it was a big story that I got fired that Monday and went crazy viral. Right? Duvall getting it. Duvall goes, damn my dog homeless, man. He said, man, what you need, man? He said my dog homeless, man. I'm like, bro, I'm not homeless. And I'm explaining the story to him. He was like, bro, I'm your friend, bro. You ain't got to lie to me, bro. You're the fucking drill, man. I'm telling him the truth. And so, yeah, we left. We stayed with my wife's grandma and Coney Island for a little while. And we was out, drove down to South Carolina. Really? And that's when I took my ass to that goddamn unemployment office. And since I had been fired four times, I got $1,100 for a week for a whole year, baby. Man, get out of here. Oh, man, I had four firings. I got five radio series. You get more money? Huh? No, I'd never collected unemployment ever. Because you got unemployment from each one. Every single place. I'd never collected unemployment ever. So you're back home. You're getting $1,000 a letter a week, which is you can live well down there for a while. I was living with my mom. And you're living at home in the trailer? No, just my mom had a house by then. This was 2000. You've been telling this trailer story so long. I just don't listen. We've been that moved out the trailer. My dad had been built a home for my mom. OK, so then you go and you're in this. So you're in this house. You live with your mom. Your wife is also living there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your daughter. Man, thanks for never reading Black Frivelies, bro. I appreciate it. I read the whole thing on twice speed. I told you, I read the whole thing on 2X. You listened to it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, OK, OK. Well, I must have spent past this fucking part. Got you, got you, got you. But I did the whole thing in 2X. The first week and it came out. Thank you. I did not read the second one. Had none of this in there. Well, that's why. But I did listen to the first one in 2X. Got you, got you, got you. I remember being in my hotel room and listening to it. Anyway, but I don't know. It's just fascinating to me like you just kept doing the same thing that you kept getting fired from. Because it was I call it divine misdirection. That's why I tell people like sometimes you can be doing everything right and things may not go the way you want them. I'm not tripping. I just always knowing my life that God has something better. That's literally been the story of my life. Back on radio. Because of the stuff I had been doing prior. And then I was down in Monks Corner for a year. But I had been on Wendy's show for what, two and a half years. I was in Philly for like 10 months. OK, so you had a pedigree and you're like, fuck it. Someone's going to do it. Me and Duvall were still doing Hoodstate of the Union. So you were still part of the culture. Yeah. I mean, I remember me and Jason Lee. We did a demo for a show called The Schrinner. I think it was me, Jason Lee, and Claudia Jordan. It was a lot of things that was still going on. Plus, it literally was social media. At that point, 2010, social media kept you in the conversation. That's another thing. Because there was one platform. We were all on it. That's right. Twitter. That's right. That's right. Is that when you did that music video about pink shirts? No, that was on the radio in Columbia. That was 2000. I saw that on Reddit the other day. I was like, oh, it's real. It's real. Yeah. Wax in the video, he slammed somebody. He slammed Timmy Tim in the pink shirt. Wait, like an actual fight or not? Nah, it was the whole point of the video was how men shouldn't wear pink. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so at the end of the video, waxing, like, I think powder might have been there too. They all grabbed Timmy Tim and slammed him. Get him out of there. Wedgie. Stupid. But yeah, that was like old three, old two, old two. Did you ever have any time when you were doing the breakfast club where you were about to do something wild on the radio and you're like, man, I don't want to be fired again, man? No. Real. Because it was all about survival. From that, from tooth. When I got on breakfast club, it was just like, I'm going out. Guns are blazing. They will never forget my name. That's why it's all this wild, stupid shit out there right now. Because it was all about survival for me. I know it was guns are fucking blazing. But some people might look at survival as, hey, if I play this a little bit towards the middle. Now, I couldn't play it safe. I had to bust New York City's ass. We was coming in and we were going up against the legendary Hot 97. And it was like, no, I had to shoot. It wasn't, I couldn't play it safe for. No, I felt like if I played it safe, I wouldn't have gotten to where I've gotten to. And you know what? I'll be at the tent and go. Yeah, and I was right. Now I had to shoot. I had to shoot, like shoot in a big way. Kick the fucking table over. And that's what we did. And you know, everything happens for a reason. That's why I can't like, I don't sit here and regret anything I used to, but I think that's when I was a, that's when I wasn't like comfortable with all parts of myself. You know what I'm saying? And it's like now I'm comfortable with all parts of myself and all versions of myself. Because I've gotten to a different place of healing and holding to be totally honest. So it's like, I can't run from that. Like I like what people are people want to weaponize the old me versus the new me. Cool. Because guess what? That old part of me played a role. That old part of me had a purpose too. You know what I'm saying? And you can't get me now without having me then. And I wouldn't be here now if it wasn't for that version of me then. So it was just like, yo, I'll bring that guy with me now too. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what? Thank you, bro. I appreciate you. Now rock with me while I go live the rest of my life. You know what I'm saying? You sit over here. You might, you needed some healing anyway. Yeah, you was broken, bro. You know what I'm saying? You was broken. You know, you had a lot of insecurities. You had a lot of trauma. You didn't deal with it. We're gonna work through all of this together. Because you can't shun any version of yourself. Right. You can't. Nobody in this room. I'm talking about the five-year-old version of you, the teenage version of you, the 20-year-old version of you, the versions of you that you didn't like. You can't suppress none of that. And if you ever wonder why certain things keep coming back up, certain traumas still trigger you, it's because you haven't healed those versions of yourself that still fucking exist within you. It's really interesting your story because most people would look at it and be like, there's a common phrase, right? It's like, if you're repeating the same thing, expecting a different result, you're crazy. Yeah, really? You basically were crazy until it worked. Well, no, insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Here's the thing. Those four times I got fired was all for different reasons. And a lot of, most of those reasons had nothing to do with me. When I got fired from Hot 98.9 in Charleston, South Carolina, my man Corey Hill, they bought in a new program director. He wanted to hire new people. That was just the business. It didn't matter what my ratings were. I got to bring in my team. You know what I mean? Plus, when we sat down and had a conversation, I wasn't fucking with this dude, no way. And I was super cocky, arrogant, fuck you. Who are you? You know what I mean? And he was white. They ain't fucking out of here, Corey Hill. But that's my guy. I got nothing but love and respect for Corey Hill. Then I go to fucking the big DM in Columbia, South Carolina. You know what I mean? Big DM in Columbia, South Carolina. The station flip format. And then I can do it about that. You know what I mean? Then I go to Hot 1039 in Columbia, South Carolina. I ended up getting with Wendy. My program director at the time, Chris Conner, was like, yo, you can't do both. Cool. I'm gonna go with Wendy. Wendy was layoffs. Literally, it fired 25 people with me. So it's like all of these things are just things that happened in the business. You know what I mean? Same thing with Philly. He bought it in the new program director, Boogie D. You know what Boogie D got told? I don't know why you firing Charlamagne. But if this doesn't work out, we gotta ship you back to St. Louis. It didn't work out. God bless Boogie D. Salute to him. But it's like all of that stuff just happened. All that stuff happened for reasons. When you look back, you just like, hey man, I learned this here. I learned that here. It was all part of the process. And I'm sitting here now. I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be at this moment in time, doing what I'm supposed to be doing. And the evolution will continue. That's it. That's all. You should have wrote your book like that, bro. I did. That's exactly how I wrote it. Okay. Black Privilege is the New York Times bestseller. Damn. All right. I don't think you included that shit in it. That was all in it. I don't think so, bro. That was all in it. It was the New York Times bestseller for like 10 weeks in a row. Matter of fact, 11 weeks in a row. Yeah. It's damn near like at a million copies sold. What? A lot of people. Black Privilege? Bro, black, hold on. It was a hot book. Now it's a hot book imprint. Black Privilege publishing. What's wrong with y'all? Y'all think I just, God is good. Early. I'm just saying. God is good. God is really, really good, man. I don't, I don't. Don't you want to read that story, guys? It's in Black Privilege. It's a book. Don't you want to read it? Don't want you to sit down back. You know what's interesting, what you said though, Shopes? You do what you can with the information you have at the time, right? It's like, it's probably jokes you told five years ago that if you told them now, they'd be way better. Yeah, of course. Because you got more information, your language is better, you're more refined, you know what I'm saying? You've grown, you've evolved. That's just the way things are. That's why, like I said, you can't regret nothing. I remember when Malcolm Gladwell was on it. Malcolm Gladwell told us there's things in his books that he don't even believe anymore. I'm like, you piece of shit. I could not grasp that concept at the time. I've been going along with some of this shit that you said in your fucking book, you don't believe no more. But here's the thing, what he believed in outliers will help somebody on their journey. It just doesn't probably serve him anymore because he's grown, he's older, he's got more information. But a 20 year old will pick up outliers and be like, damn, yeah, 10,000 hours. You know what I mean? That's really what you're going for. He still wants to collect checks on outliers. What? Outliers can still serve somebody. It just doesn't serve him anymore. Right, right. That's all. Nah, I'm bussing. Yeah, there's so many things that don't serve, there's so many things that don't serve any of us anymore. But guess what? Yeah. It's in the history books, baby. It's on record. It's a cool story. It is a cool story. Go back, listen to the, like Jay said, if you want old Charlemagne, go listen to the old radio show. Go listen to the old podcast. Would you ever consider writing a story, a book just about that point in your life? What you mean? And telling the story that you just said to me? It's in, man, shut up, man. It's in. It's in. How about I say, why did you tell that story? I am, I am, I am, I am working on something though. Ooh. I am working on something. I'm definitely doing a third book. So I do have a... What about a movie? What about like a film or something like that based on this point of your life? I'm sure at some point it will be. The trials and tribulations of Bukino's. I'm sure at the tribulations of Bukino's. The trials and tribulations of Bukino's. Listen, I'm sure all of that's gonna happen at some point in life. I'm not rushing nothing. I'm 43, bro. Yeah, you got time, bro. I hope. From what I know, I got time. I'm here. Like, we gotta love, we gotta... We gotta, like, that's the beauty of life, right? We've been around a long time. So we've got a long way to go, bro. At least for... If we're lucky, bro. If we're lucky, we're blessed. I know we're anointed. I know we are and we got a long way to go because I know who you aspire to. I know you feel like it's a lot of things you want to do, right? Of course, absolutely. It's a lot of things that I still want to do. Wax, I know it's a lot of things he still want to do. Yeah, me too. I mean this seriously. Just hearing you talk about is really, obviously, it's really just a lighting. Obviously, you have a cool, unique story. And I know that you did include it. But you've incredibly connected and it seems like an incredibly important thing for you that you're passionate about like mental health. Did you ever think about writing a book about that and you're experiencing it? I was thinking about it. I think I'ma name it Shukwon, you know what I'm saying? I'd be great. I probably have like a cool subtitle like Anxiety Playing Tricks on me. Something like that, you know what I mean? I think that would be like something cool to do. I think that'd be sick, man, because it seems like it's something incredibly important to you and you could definitely help a lot of people. Probably help eradicate the stigma around it a little bit, you know what I'm saying? 100%, especially in that community. That's a great idea. Yeah, I like that. That's a great idea, Shukwon. I like that title too, it's catchy. Shukwon, I might even go to therapy. Shukwon. I think Michael J. Fox's autobiography is called Shukwon. Oh my God. Yeah. Hey, man, as always, if you listen to this podcast and you think we're smart, if you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. If you listen to this podcast and you think we're just a couple idiots who don't know shit, you're right too, you know? And if you wanted any asking idiots from Reddit, blame this guy while you're not getting it, all right? You don't deserve it after what he just said, okay? Somebody gotta pay for Andrew's sins. And since it's not Andrew, it's gonna be you guys to listen to this, okay? It's The Brilliant Idiots Podcast. We'll let you ask twice as much next week. It's The Brilliant Idiots Podcast. Thank you for listening. You're welcome.