 Just welcome back to Why in the Morning or Queens Wednesday on Why in the Morning. My name is Barry Moses or it's Barrymore on social media. It's time for Strength of a Woman. I know it's your favorite segment because we get to highlight the Queens who are doing amazing stuff for themselves and for the world at large. My guest for today, before I introduce, White54 on Twitter, White54 on Instagram, and White54 on Facebook, hashtag is Why in the Morning. Don't forget to tell us where you're watching us from because we appreciate it so much. So my guest has done it all. From being in the Big Brother Africa house, to politics, to making gospel music now. She goes by the name Sabina Stadla. Woohoo! Karibusana. I like the hairdresser. She's like, I'm Bori. She's like, I'm Tom Stani. She's like, I'm a Queen. She's like, I'm a Queen. She's like, I'm a Queen. Anyway, Karibusana. Thank you so much. So, you're from Saudi Arabia? Yes, I'm from Saudi Arabia. I'm from Bariton. I'm from Bariton. I'm from Bariton. I'm from Bariton. I'm doing a test. The frequency is exactly at Bariton. Ah, we're from Bariton. Yes. So, I'm connected with you. The camera is number four. I'm going to give you a chance to introduce myself. Hello, Professor Magoa. Ah, so. My name is Sabina Stadla. I'm from Sabina Redeemed. On all social media, you can find me as Sabina Redeemed and on YouTube Pia. Yes. Actress, producer. Sabina Redeemed is you're an actor, producer. You're a CES as well. People don't know that, that you work really closely with Nairobi women's rep. Yes. Despite the fact that you guys look alike. Yes. But you're not related. But you're not related. But you get that a lot. Yes. All right. So, growing up in Mombasa. Mm-hmm. Sindo. Yeah. Naskia. 001. You are quadru- ratio. Yeah. From German. Yeah. The other three. Ah, I miss Naskia. It's Tambu Kabila. I'm from Kenya too. We're from Kenya. We're from Kenya too. But you're in a represent. It represents a lot when you have somebody who's a co-diverse. Yes. When somebody's diverse, it represents togetherness. Yes. It represents something special. So, don't shy away from sharing it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, Yes. Yes. Yes. No no. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Again. Yes, yes? Yes. Well, man-д like me If I had a child, I would've gone to the beach to swim and swim But I told myself, when I get out of the beach, I'll get 20 bucks and I'll have 20 bucks and I'll be able to get 100 bucks So the coast of living in Nairobi is different Yes, even if you want to go somewhere, you can't go to the beach there's no beach If you want to go to swim, maybe you'll get 200 But if you want to go to the beach, you'll get 50 bucks I think it's 50 bucks I feel you, Mombasa is a little bit chill Education is cheaper So, yeah, on the flip side, what is good about Nairobi? What do you love about Nairobi? I love Nairobi, the first first-paced life, like you cannot afford to to sit down, you know, like somebody else is going to beat you at it. So, especially when you move to Nairobi, so even for me, I just go for a holiday. In fact, when I usually go, I'm like, oh my gosh, there's a new building, you know, but then after one week, I'm like, okay, moving on. Moving on. All right. First of all, how did you make it to Big Brother? Big Brother, I did auditions. They usually had auditions that time, and they were like almost six auditions. And then the last one... Where were the auditions? I think they were at Hilton, Hilton. And then the others were in South Africa now, when you went to the top, whatever. All right. So, when you got to Hilton, how long was the line? I was there early. I remember my child was like four months, after being pregnant with I, and then I was a single mother already. So I was like, I'm gonna go in a comeback, you know, make comeback. So I was excited because I'd been idle for like one year, not idle, but not in the picture of media. So I was like, ah, this is my chance to go back and, you know, continue my dream, because I thought it would be a platform for my talent. So I was there very early. Did you feel any little bit of intimidation when you got to the auditions? Did you feel like, ah, will I really make it to represent Kenya on this stage? No, because I'd already tried before and failed it. So for me, failing again was no problem because I already know how it is to fail. So it just is like, okay, I'll get it or not. So when you finally got the, how was the life? Do you feel like you're too exposed when you're in that house? When you're in the big brother house, of course, there are cameras everywhere. And then for me, I, ah, you know, there's, um, at that time I didn't know, but there's like almost, it's not that what wanna show us as, you know, when you're on a show and naked, it's not the unethical part of it, but it's the, it's the very spiritual that was happening to all the housemates. And I remember for me, I would just sit and it's like, what wanna tembe? Like siko, niko bat siko. And if anyone would notice later, um, so there's something very spiritual that's why I don't really usually like talking about it, not because I'm ashamed of anything. I didn't do anything bad there. I was myself. And I learned actually, because they imagined, I didn't go for anything. And my personality, my challenge is what made me win, win to get to represent. To get to represent. How was the eviction? The eviction, I was, actually my eviction was weird because they had already evicted the people. Then they came back and then they evicted me. And we were, we were the most loudest people in the house. Three of us, we were evicted the same day. But you know, yeah. So So they really suffered evictance a bit? Yeah, they suffered. But I think because like I said, there was so many spiritual things. It was warfare. I didn't know until I came out and then I had to pray. I had to fast and pray and I had to burn everything that I had got from that house because I was like under bondage. My, I would dream bad things that I was not the only one. It was from other housemates. You guys had conversations about this? Yes, with other housemates. Yes. And I remember I prayed with another housemate from another country. And when we prayed and we did the prayer, when we were burning our things, you know, because that's what my pastor told me to do. And you know how you get initiated, you know, they take your blood, of course, they tell you they're testing you for this and this, you sign contracts. It's like almost you are doing things you don't know. So for me, it was a spiritual warfare. And that's what I'm saying. If you don't amount to anything, if you really are keen, because I am famous for showing my ass, that doesn't mean I'm successful. So it's, it's just something sad. Gaitano is doing well. Gaitano is one different person. Like I'm doing well. I can't say, but I went for prayers. You see, I got deliverance from that. So I can't know what Gaitano did or didn't do. But also I can't, you can't really know someone is doing well because they're on TV. That doesn't mean they're doing well. You understand? Factual, factual. It just looks like a prayer zone. I don't want to name people. Factual, that's fact. Would you do it again? No, I've been, I've been given, they wanted to organize on all stars, but I said, I'm not going to do it. Even whenever they do reunions, I don't go for them. There was one in Rwanda. I was going to go thinking it was an album launch for the Rwandese housemates. They had already like organized passports. Then on the post I said, BBA reunion. I'm like, I'm out. You're not doing this. So yeah, because I don't want to promote it because I know what it did to me. I, I can't go so much because this is not a spiritual show. You need to be spiritually mature. Hey, mature Jesus. Yes, don't worry. Butter in the morning. I feel you. So many young people watch this show. So stuck into, because people might ask me, how do I get to Big Brother? I would just tell you, don't even think about it. But just do. There's so many other platforms for people now. There's Instagram as well. Yeah. You don't even need that show. You can search your own show. And you have YouTube as well. There's words. Farfowards from Sabina right here, WhiteFive4 channel on Twitter, WhiteFive4 underscore channel on Instagram and WhiteFive4 on Facebook. Hashtag is one morning. Don't forget to tell us where you're watching us from so we can give you a shout out. Sabina, the last question on Big Brother. Yes. Just going into the house, your kid is like seven months old or six months? I think five or six. Did you get a lot of backlash for this? Yes, I did. But for me, I understood that I am the sole provider for this child. So I was the one who took care of her. And I didn't leave my child with the neighbor. I brought my mother. She lives in Mombasa. I brought her to Nairobi. My sister. They went to stay with my sister at my sister's place. So it was my mother, my sister, my daughter was staying with them and the house. So she was in good hands. She was in good hands. Definitely. How is she doing now? She is watching us right now. All right. So after Big Brother, you say it didn't help you in any way, in any bit. You touched on that. But I'd like to know, how do you find yourself making gospel music right now from Big Brother, from TV, Big Brother, acting, everything, to making gospel music? Where did you find the light? And how did you know that I think this is my mission in life to minister through singing? I think you know, it's just a time. God chooses a time to call you. And for me, I got saved when I was in high school. But for me to start working in the work was later, later after, even I'd gotten a child. So in that retrospect, like maybe I wanted to sing, but I didn't want to just sing. So I really held that dream up for some time. It's like that thing was burning in me that I have to sing something meaningful. So my first song was a piece song. But it was just in 2017. Yes. Yes, it was. So then I think Deepin said I was not fulfilled. Like, okay, yeah, it's a piece song. But you know, just as you know, I'm broke, but I'm confused. So until I got the right message, I was like, okay, God, so God wants me to sing gospel. Oh, so I asked God, okay, give me a song to sing. And that's why my song also it starts. The first line is give me a song to sing. It's called El Shaddai. Produced by? Produced by that was Vicky Pondis. But I never went back to Vicky Pondis. I didn't have a good experience there. So my producer now is Marshall Music. Marshall Music. It's called Marshall Music Pedro. Is it Pedro Padre? Pedro? Pedro. All right. So you didn't have a good experience with a producer. This is not the first time I'm hearing this on, on, on this show, especially from a queen like you. It's Queens Wednesday. The name of the, the name of the show is... But still, it could be a dumb word. It could be dumb words. Yes. But anyway, so what, what is this experience that you had? My experience was... See, he's a bad producer. He's just not fit for me. Yes. Because like my producer now, Marshall is very patient with me. I believe... It's very hard for you to give that attention. But me, I usually like someone on like my first job. I was a waitress at Nando's. But I serve chicken in a ruddy. I serve you with all my heart, you know. So the fact that for me, I've paid my money and then you treat me like I'm not a worthy customer because maybe you don't know me. I'm like, okay, I do say. So for me, it's a bad producer. It doesn't mean he's a bad producer. Just for me. Some people just don't mix. Yeah. So for me, it's not like I'm a producer because I don't know what to do. But now, I don't know what to do. I just want to be one month because there are so many artists to prioritize. And it's a good thing that they are making those jobs. So for me, my producer, I like Marshall because he's patient with me. So I like that about him and his patient and he will give me my song within the week. All right. On the flip side, you're a producer when it comes to the world of film and TV. Do you see them in yourself when you come to TV? No, because I'm, you see the difference with me, I'm an actress and I'm a producer. So I don't want to go to Vibhaya because I've been there. No, I just correct you because you see the good thing is I'm a Christian. You are on tape number 20. I'm a Christian. I have to, you see, my job is also my ministry. So I have to show you the love of Christ. The worst thing you can do is come to the set drunk. Not even hungover drunk because we don't know. So up on the town, you see, I'll just talk to you like this. This is how I'd say it. You see what we call job. It would be good if you appreciate this honor that we have drunk. And this is because if you do, we're not sure if we're drunk or not. Future actors out there. Don't show up to subpoenas drunk and over the place. Yes. You're working really closely with the Nairobi women's rep. Yeah, I was at Art Exhibition. Art Exhibition Kule Railways Museum. Yes. And for a moment cameras guns are cool. What are you doing with Nairobi women's rep? Women's rep made me to look when I campaigned in 2017. I used to be on her campaign team. I was very close to her and I supported her vision. Because of how on our own personal conversation. But for me usually I say, What do you want to go to do for you through you working for me? What is it? She didn't ask me what do you want me to do for you? If I get the seat or whatever. So I was like, oh this woman is so wise. She told me everything I do I ask God first. Even when I want to pick food from my fridge. What am I eating today God? Chicken or fish? So I was like... It's something simple. If I come out from KBC, White Fight 4, I will ask God which road do I take? Because everything has a purpose. If I go to Nangestate and I go to Mui Avenue, there's a purpose. Maybe somebody I was to meet on Mui Avenue would do something for me. Or I would do something for them. But because I go to Nangestate, I would have missed that maybe it would be a destiny helper. And that will affect the whole of my life. Because one step. I would go to KBC. And I learned that because I went to the wrong audition. I went to the wrong audition. I was like, why am I doing this role? Anyway, I went to the wrong audition. I went to the wrong audition. But when I went to the wrong audition, I had a mind for KBC. So I went to KBC. I went to the wrong place. It looked like a mistake, but it wasn't because there was a purpose. And if it was not that show in KBC, I went to the wrong place. Because that's what led me to the media side of life. So everything happens for a reason. Before we get back to what you're doing with the past series, have you always been like this? The spiritual where you believe everything is interconnected and there's a supreme being above us. Have you always been the spiritual? Of course, everything is connected. Everything is connected. Because if I imagine that there's something I can do, maybe it's something I can do, I'm like, oh, it was so that I can... I can do what I imagine. But it is because I knew what I was worth. Not so many people know what I'm worth actually. Just because when you know what you're worth, you can't take some things. I believe in every kind of rejection. It has a purpose. Every delay, maybe the station is closed, I've been rejected not just by a man, but even by jobs, by auditions, by many other things, by friends. In the long run, everything has a purpose. As long as it's not about the past. Yes. Of course, there's no need to stand at home. But of course, God has always been in the picture for me. It's just that, the more wisdom you have, the more you spend time with God. Back to what you're doing at the office of the Nairobi women. When we met during the campaign, I prayed about it. I said, hey, this is somebody I want to support. I don't want anything from her. I just want to support her. Because most politicians come here and they don't want to support her. So, and I know for women, it's a group, there's no opportunity. So, I asked my mother-in-law, to give me her position, job, you know. So, I just wanted to support her. But when we got to the seat, she said I'm from the arts and culture. Because you see, that's something I know. She said I'm from the arts and culture, because I'm from the arts and culture. So, it was her who actually put me in that docket. So, she asked for it. So, because she saw who you are. So, there are ministries like Health, Co-Officer, Business, whatever. So, I head arts and culture in the all of Nairobi. But I also head Langata and Macadara Consequences. So, I'm a sectional head also. A sectional head as well. But you head arts and culture across. All right. How many ministries do you guys have? About eight. Because you see, we are 17 sectional heads. So, like, one of them is a ministry. Because for me, arts, culture and sports. But there's also one who heads sports alone. All right. But for me also, I help her in sports. But my main thing is arts and culture. So, to come here, we will work together. I feel that. So, you guys coordinate and work together on a day-to-day. So, we will work together on a day-to-day. We will work together on disability. We will work together on entrepreneurship. Water, sanitation. Yeah. I've seen you on the ground really active at the art exhibition. What are some of the projects under your docket? So, we have a mobile film competition coming during the end of the year. So, stay tuned. When you follow the film. Mobile film competition. So, it's a film competition where you just record it with your mobile phone. So, the theme for that will be based on the SDGs Sustainable Development Goals which are gender, poverty, you know. Zero Anger. Zero Anger. Zero Anger. Zero Anger. Zero Anger. Zero Anger. So, we want you to make a film like things that empower that talk about poverty. How can we end poverty? Gender equality. Employment for youth. Yeah, and then, of course, prize money, mentorship, certification. And then, also, we have a project where it's the 50-50 project where, like you see most of the guys who work at Shule Film School who apply for it and say, do you have experience? It's just a part of the experience. So, for the 50-50 project, we say 50% of let's say for, if I have a show, 50% of the crew will be professionals. The other 50 will be in Etonini and then, also, the other 50 will be women. So, we are empowering women, but also empowering the ones who don't have experience to gain experience. And be paid, also. It's paid in the process. There's money going around. And also, we usually welcome your proposals. Like, we have plays. We go for plays. People invite us for plays. More usually, we give money from our office. Music. We have a music video competition because many people want to be hanged. They don't know how to shoot video. They don't have money to shoot the video. So, we have a competition which will be coming for shooting your music videos for you. For artists, yeah. And then, so much more, but like I said, you can apply too. How do we keep tabs with what's going on at the office of the Nairobi women's rap? You can follow Esther Pasaris. Especially, she's very active on Twitter. You'll get a lot of information there. And also, our office is at KCC, 15th floor. It's always open to people to walk in and out. Just carry your ID, with a computer. My king's pair. My princesses. Really? All right. So, back to the music. Since this is your core business now. All right. Are we looking to see any albums in future collaborations? What are we to expect when it comes to the music side of Sabrina? So, I have a new collaboration. It's like two weeks old with the Ecuador kids. Keep it real and I'm blessed. Hip-hop trap. All right. I also have a dance song. It's not just hip-hop trap but it's more like rap. I'm not going to rap. I'm not singing anymore. So, that's a new brand. Even my artist name now is Sabina Redeemed. Before it was Sabina. I have a collaboration with somebody who I can't stay. And then he got saved. Do you have an idea what that is? I have a list. Every sender is who you think. All right. Take a guess on our Facebook page right there. Don't forget there's a question on Facebook as well. That you need to address. But senders, that guess of yours. I have my own. It used to be a sick rapper. Yes. Now he's doing gospel music. I can say he got saved. All right. He got saved. No, I can't. I can't. All right. I need to link it to the viewers. Just tell us what you think or who you think that could be. There's a picture of Sabrina on our Facebook page. Keep it real. I'm blessed. You know those are their real names. Yes, yes. Iqudida is doing amazing stuff. Iqudida is really progressive. Yes. Studio session is going on. Yes, it's going on. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. But you're good with kids, obviously. Yes, yes. I'm so excited. All right. How can they find the song? The song is on YouTube. Just talk to them. Look them straight into their eyes. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. Iqudida. But you see, Iqudida is a big artist. Iqudida is a big artist. It's even an honor for him to let me put the song on his channel. You know. At times, I feel like I'm not that good. So you have to be visionally. That's good for the song. Iqudida's channel has 100 times subscribers than mine. So the song will move faster and reach more people. And for me, it's about the ministry. I want people to hear the song so that they hear from God. So it's not about that. Because even the song has been featuring the kids. It's my song. But we always sit as our song. Because if it wasn't with them, it would be a different thing. It would be a different vibe altogether. It would be a different reach altogether. Your last message. I don't have a last message. I'm not going. Alright, Mr. Producer. There's nothing I can do. We have to stay. I am on strike. The show ends with a good end today. So we can go on and on and on. So there's nothing I can do. I'm still here. Maybe tomorrow I'll come again. There's nothing I can do. There's nothing I can do. There's nothing I can do. There's nothing I can do. So my last message is Start. Just start. Whatever it is you're supposed to start. Do it today. You know what I'm talking about. Just don't worry. Even for me, so many things I was like, oh my God, I remember my first cooking show. I don't have money. How will I shoot a season? But I did it. Start. Just start today. And if I didn't start with that small thing, today I wouldn't be here having short films for Mnet. For I don't know, you know, all those shows. Yeah, check out Render. Subscribe to my channel. Like, follow, share, tweet, everything. You heard it straight from us. She's doing amazing stuff for herself. And for the people of Nairobi. Yes, that is a video right there. That is some follow the video. Wow. And they better put Render. This is my awesome before I started rapping. Yup. All right. You've seen it. Get straight to our YouTube channels. Like, subscribe, share. We're going to be playing a music in a few. Kalamivali is coming up next with Galstock. I don't know where. Don't type that out.