 That's really interesting cold open cold open Just we're video started and some people get really thrown off when we were in the middle of a sentence when that happens So oh, I'm about throwing that out as a warning so that they understand so I Think we had open I think we have to do an episode like this where you use a translator fairly soon Because otherwise the they're gonna get so good that it's just gonna be like a stalking And it's not gonna be interesting people are gonna go well. Yeah, of course it works It's like AI. Yeah, and and our most of our audience will be AI agents by that point Yeah, they probably are already you won't be impressed There's something to be said about creating a responsible bubble to live in And I say that because Veronica and Patrick yesterday on the show both reacted to the story about Huawei including machine learning with the skepticism of like, yeah, it's everybody's buzzword these days Just say you have AI and I'm like, huh. I actually yes I know that happens, but I don't pay attention to any of those claims I only look at the ones like DeepMind and stuff that are legit and are actually doing things So and the while we want apparently is working So wait, are you saying they're in a bubble or you're in a bubble? No, I'm in a bubble. Oh I'm preventing myself from seeing the the more spurious claims very often Spurious claims. Where have I heard that? That's my that's my new band Spurious clams That Is my cover band of spurious claims. Yes, it's a selfish and we're not clams We're muscles and they just do cover they do cover music from all the bands that recorded muscle shows You know, I think Before I started listening to podcasts. I probably wouldn't have understood all of those jokes Ah, podcasts are really useful. Yeah. Well, that that's actually my main aim is to understand more of Lorande Vutek I fear, you know the day that happens and you're like, you know what actually the show is not that good. I Mean, I understand a fair portion of it now Because I know a little bit of French and I know all of the topics, right? I'm like, oh, they're talking about the Facebook Whatever, right? So, yeah. All right, you guys ready? I'm ready. Oh, uh, Sarah. You do not I put in a location introduction I don't know if you want to put in a location introduction Patrick Um, as you know, I like them so all I will add mine Audibly, I won't bother writing it then but I will give you that Patrick. So, you know, oh, you're actually oh go ahead No, no, no, I was just giving you up from quote Colin. So All right Soon as How can I call it I'm stuck and No, I mean from the DTNS What in Finland the DTNS longhouse Longhouse what's a longhouse? That's like a traditional Viking structure. Oh, right Sure, that works Yeah Explain where I am. I don't know All right. Here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday October 17th 2017 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt And from studio feline at Venice Beach. I'm Sarah Lane and from the DTNS longhouse in the beautiful But rainy Finnish countryside. I'm Patrick Beja joining us. Of course is our producer Roger Chang who is in a secret location I'm in a secret location. It looks like the location I record from every week or every designate that survivor We we can't right, right? Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. You're putting way too much on my shoulders right now Uh, we are going to talk about not only facebook's acquisition of a teen oriented app Uh, but sort of this this struggled to find a nicer internet and what this might mean for it Let's start however with a few tech things you should know The windows 10 fall creators update or if you're in the uk the windows 10 autumn creators update is available now for all Users among the new features are one drive files on demand So the files will show even if they're not locally stored Uh windows mixed reality support you can actually use that even if you don't have a headset But it's mostly meant to support headsets. There's 3d paint. You can now create things put it in mixed reality The my people contact manager lets you pin contacts to your task bar A bunch of new features in the edge browser pen and touch functions some security updates a lot of other stuff But it's there now windows 10 fall creators update get it. Enjoy it. Love it Well, you might not love this story as much some drone news coming out of canada regarding an incident that happened last week It was last thursday actually an unmanned aerial vehicle flying outside an airport's exclusion zone And also 450 meters high which is above the legal limit Struck a sky jet passenger airplane approaching quibbock city. The plane suffered just minor damage It was a small plan. I think about six people on board Uh, the the landed safely But it's believed to be the first confirmed collision of a drone with a passenger plane Uh, and no harm done really Uh, it kind of sounds like it scuffed the paint maybe dented something if that But the key here is the person flying the drone was outside of the exclusion zone They weren't violating airport space. They were just too high and that's how they got in the flight path Reuters reports that fiverr fiverr Five former and microsoft employees say microsoft's internal bug tracking database Was breached by attackers in 2013 the database included descriptions of critical vulnerabilities Which were fixed within months of the breach Yeah, a lot of people are making a lot of this because of what could have happened, which is totally fair Uh, thankfully it doesn't sound like anything did happen Although some folks are claiming microsoft didn't do enough investigation to see what effects it might have had that they were fixed Rather quickly, but it's unsettling Also, don't we maybe we don't know what happened. Maybe some bad people did things, you know that Weren't made public that they weren't discovered that's possible too. Yeah Here's some more top stories microsoft announced the surface book to The successor to the original surface book comes in a 13.5 inch and 15 inch screen size model Like the original it has a full tablet in the screen that could be separated and used Independently the 13.5 inch version can have a seventh gen i5 or eighth gen i7 processor up to 16 gigabytes of ram And up to a terabyte of storage i7 versions have a discreet nvidia gtx 10 50 gpu All the 15 inch versions all have i7 processors and 16 gigabytes of ram and they get a gtx 10 60 GPU the ports are pretty much the same as on the original surface book with the addition of a usbc port unfortunately The usbc port does not support thunderbolt 3. It's only usbc Pricing starts at $1500 for the 13 inch model and starts at $2,500 for the 15 inch model pre-orders begin november 9th for shipping on november 16th This this is much thinner than the rather bulky original surface book They've been they've been getting thinner every time they kind of did a a thinner version of the original And then now they've they've gotten it really thin and i still love this idea of being able to pull off the tablet Even though i never do it So why do you like you just want you just want to feel like you've got choice Yeah, i mean the ability i've the times i've done it it's been magical right we're like i'm working on something One time we were ordering food i've used this example before and eileen's like okay give it to me and i was like hold on And boom i just pulled off the tablet and handed it to her that way So you know and showing people things and sometimes it's it's easier Um, my problem is i just don't use the tablet for enough things. I haven't gotten into the habit of that I wonder if it being thinner might help with that. I kind of think so too. Yeah, yeah, it definitely looks Less bulky. There's the weird hinge, which i don't know if i'm reading too much into this but i've looked for a picture of the new Surface book completely closed and i couldn't find one in all the marketing material I've gone to microsoft sites to to few sites and i can't find one and i wonder if it's not because you know that hinge makes it Still slightly open and people don't like it. I don't know. I mean i personally am not a fine fan of that design, but The fact that it's finished certainly a good thing and the fact that you can get discrete GPUs that are powerful for our gamer friends In the audience those are are pretty good. Obviously, they're not as good as desktop versions But a lot better than old discrete GPUs that had a significant lower amount of power than the desktop versions While we're we're sort of on the subject of what's under the hood Google revealed that the new pixel 2 and the pixel 2 xl Have the company's first in-house consumer system on a chip called the pixel visual core Which google says will improve and speed up image processing and it'll open up its hdr feature to third-party apps as well The pixel virtual core won't be enabled until android orio a point one though So You know there's a bit of a weight here But the company said other imaging and machine learning functions will take advantage of the new chip down the road Kind of interesting that they this sort of You know on the day that a lot of the nda's lifted Suddenly You know they admit hey, we hit a secret chip in there can't use it yet But it's gonna be so cool And apparently it will be cool. I can't wait to see it get enabled Is it the the first time that google designs a chip? I i'm guessing they designed the first in-house system on a chip according to google consumer system on a chip anyway Yeah, right, right. So I think that's significant as well. It's another brick in their road to Making sure their hardware is designed internally and they are taking this very very seriously And if it's image processing and all the third-party apps that might be able to use this in the not too distant future I mean that makes the whole ecosystem uh better and With google buying a large chunk of htc future pixel phones might have more in-house designed elements to them as well Google them again announced a new advanced protection option for securing google accounts The opt-in service requires usb keys to login to devices or bluetooth le key for mobile Non-google services are not allowed to access gmail or google drive Users also get more intensive and therefore slower malware scanning and And stricter account recovery process that takes longer This is kind of a high-level thing. This is a paul depotesta level thing if you are someone who is Definitely a target And and and needs to defend themselves You will go to these great lengths. I wouldn't recommend that every single person out there needs to do this But if you're also just want to be super careful and you don't mind the inconveniences It's nice to know that they are offering this level of security. I mean I use a usb key As well, I don't use one of the bluetooth dongles, but I'd like that. This is now an option I would like to be able to mix and match this I I might want to allow a couple of outside services that I absolutely trust to access google drive So I wouldn't want to go full in on this myself But I'd like to take advantage of a lot of pieces of this I hear that if they do an example of a service that you would like to for sure access Oh, I would definitely consider saying don't let me log in unless I have my my two dongles But say that knowing exactly what you're going to make of that My my usb key and my bluetooth key that that that is Way more secure, right? It's it's not necessarily It's not necessary for most people to do that probably an authenticator app is good enough But I cringe when somebody only allows two-factor authentication from sms I Don't love the authenticator app because of the fact that it's tied to a phone So if I switch phones now, I have to go through a lot of trouble Those keys are great being able to limit the services and say nobody can access any of these services unless I allow them to I think is smart too Patrick, do you're gonna say something? I was gonna let it go, but I was what I was gonna say is um If you allow some services, you know what will happen You know, you're saying I'd like to not have to go all in and allow a few services that I really need But if that is enabled then People are just what about this let's say I want to you know, I don't know. I want to integrate Uh google drive with dropbox and I trust dropbox. Yes. I'm opening myself up to another path But it's a path. I'm fully aware of that. I've also secured, right? So sure sure, but I mean you would secure it I think one of the goals of this service Is to make sure that the people who use it are secure themselves And if you give them the choice then they're going to go, ah this web page. I just found seems trustworthy my grandfather on facebook sent me the link so You know that happens Paypal announced venmo is now available at more than 2 million u.s Retailers for shopping on mobile venmo purchases will carry the same refund and purchase protections as paypal And the venmo option will only be available for desktop Will only be available on mobile not available on your desktop web use which I find odd But I guess they figure most of their people are on mobile and they want to limit it. I don't know Yeah, the venmo model is I mean it's pretty mobile and I can see especially where paypal has already been having a little trouble Between two services that are both owned by paypal and do the same thing most of the time That that makes sense, but I mean Well, I'm enthusiastic on venmo when someone's paying me. I'm not as enthusiastic when I have to pay someone else, but it's a It's a service. I really like it. It makes sense that They would continue to integrate here I don't really know venmo at all But I really like that idea of someone paying me sarah. So maybe You know venmo's the one where it's it's you can choose to to be public about what who's why money's being transferred or to just keep it private but reading the Sort of the main venmo feed at least it used to be was Very eye-opening because people would forget and then they were like sharing what they the weird things they paid for the night for with Higher world or even like a loose group of friends who are more like acquaintances. Anyway, it's fun stuff to do Google we're back to google again. I know but there's a lot of google news today The company has removed a calorie counter feature in google maps that had displayed the number of calories burned If you walked a particular route and how long you walked routes were also shown as the equivalent to a number of mini cupcakes meaning if you you know Didn't eat the cupcakes then this would be something that you would burn off basically The company told in gadget that the update was being tested on ios But then removed after some very negative reactions. I saw a lot of those reactions People were like Don't put dieting into my life. It was like there were some there were some angry folks. I wasn't sure that It was totally warranted, but I could see the kind of cutesy nature of it just rubbing people the wrong way Well, I think the cardinal sin was they didn't ask you if you wanted it, right? If you put in driving directions, it showed you the walking directions with a calorie count No matter what and that's just that's just annoying and especially if you're someone who's sensitive about that You feel like google's being pushy. They're fat shaming me by doing this, right? And then you had cupcakes if you're already in that mindset add the cupcakes on top of it and suddenly it's insulting Is is it though? I mean I'm just saying what the I'm not saying it was to me No, I know I know but I understand, you know, I read a little bit of the feedback as well and This veers off tech so I won't stay on it for too long, but the feedback was pretty pretty strong and pretty negative and I I you know, it does feel to me I come from a different culture and in France. We don't have we're probably, you know, some of the healthiest people food Wise there is I'm wondering if on that front things are That kind of feedback is as warranted as the anger makes it seem that being said I understand not being able to Remove it because that was one of the issues. You can't even disable it that I I know I mean, I understand it would be a problem for some people Let me opt in And let me choose to remove it if I want Yeah, I didn't get too bent out of shape over this personally, but I mean I'm also going to go to the ice cream shop and be like that's the ice cream I'm getting. I don't care How many calories in there? But that but it but it does it sort of creates like oh You're using maps maybe quite regularly to get around and now it's like a fitness app that maybe will Not make you feel like you're living up to Social standards and yeah, it's just it's pushy and it's in the wrong kind of way Yeah Folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines.com available Also on the amazon echo as a flash briefing in the anchor app and on the google home through anchor and that's a look at our top stories All right, facebook has acquired an app called tbh After to be honest It's an app generally used by teens in the united states and it's pretty targeted towards teens tbh is a polling app So you sign up you tell it what grade you're in Really focused on teens i'm telling you and then it will access your contacts list with your permission And start pushing polls to you that say like who has the best smile or who would you kiss right now? And it gives you four options pulled from your contacts list If you want to submit your own polls you can but they have to be approved before they get put in the hopper So it's not something where you can just start posting shameful polls People who are chosen as answers get gems So you only find out if you've been chosen and they get the option to contact the person that voted for them if you want Now on the back of this news Patrick it made you think Do we need a nice version of the web? Is that what this is? Uh, you know, it's I think uh, we're kind of changing Uh, our relationship to maybe not our relationship yet, but at least the way we view the internet I think a few years ago, uh, we were looking at interactions social interactions as they were I think we can say distorted by uh, the internet, you know comments and the anonymity was the main culprit people were Saying was distorting the the relationships And we were sort of thinking Yeah, that's the way it goes. You know, that's the internet. That's just the youtube comment section That's that's how it is and it was it wasn't great, but it wasn't really something that was, um Having so much weight that it it impacted it made us think maybe we we should do things differently And I don't think we're quite quite there yet, but we've seen a few attempts at, um actively proactively influencing the usage of those, uh, social dynamics To be honest is one of those apps. I've seen I can think of a couple of others. There's, uh, Sahara, which is a Saudi app that provides anonymous feedback, but it's mostly for the work workplace and At least in the beginning it's very successful and in the beginning it was showing surprisingly Positive feedback. There's also imzi, which is a failed network that was purposefully very, um Targetedly I would say trying to be the nice reddit because reddit is a wonderful place wonderful community But it can be as harsh as it can be supportive and intelligent Um, so imzi was having all cutesy imagery and trying to say hey, you're in a nice place we're having fun and everything's cool and Sadly the the app failed But I do think maybe we're seeing the beginnings of People and and tech developers Trying to starting to think Hey, maybe we shouldn't just think that's the way the internet is Maybe we should maybe try to shape it a little bit like we you know the usage of it Like we do with any tool which can be used for good or bad And the completely hands-off approach is maybe not the best one So I have opinions on this of course, but I wonder what you guys think You know what? I've been seeing tbh Kind of around my news feed and definitely with friends of mine who have teenage kids It definitely seems sort of teen to 20 ish And quite honestly, I was confused for a while. I was like there's this is some joke You know, there was some viral video I didn't understand and everyone's referencing it or something Because I can't keep up with what the kids are always doing but But now that I realize okay, okay It's an app i'm familiar with it the fact that facebook sees how active Its younger users are on this app even if it's the flavor of the month It's nothing for them to go ahead and pick that up and integrate it And facebook also has a bit of a pr crisis and I think that uh something that Can sort of point to a mostly a positive experience and kind of a accolades based polling kind of gamification That's fine. That's all fine and good. I just feel like we've seen so many companies try to do stuff like this and There's you know money involved, but it's kind of a we're making, you know, best intentions stuff I mean form spring I had feelings about this at first and then it got weird Anonymity obviously makes things difficult, but even something like instagram It's like when instagram launched it was like look, we'll make your foes pretty And it's gonna be so much better and like we're just gonna clean it up and you're gonna look really good and flattering And it's like and now that's kind of turned on its head and everyone's like it's fake It's not real life. Yeah, it encourages an unrealistic expectation for your life Yeah, and so it's it's well, I I mean on instagram one interesting thing was that you had pictures So you it was more difficult to have nasty stuff on it. It was just beautiful photos But yeah, well, that's true. Although a lot of stuff on instagram is just pictures of text now, but but uh You know, I even remember uh amber macarthur and I used to Show social hour and we looked at all sorts of different websites and she was like Upworthy seems kind of cool. Like it's all kind of like uplifting stories and we were like, uh, okay You know, it's it seems kind of pleasant and then that became like a real spammy experience Certainly for me online. So it's like I just I don't want to say that we don't need a nicer web I certainly think we do. I just don't know how yet another app That relies on a contact list And for you to kind of remain real active with that is going to change much See the brilliance of the design here gets me which is It's really hard for this to make someone feel bad You're only going to be feeling bad if you like me have no friends on it And you get no gems if you're ignored you could yeah So that you know that that's but that's sort of an absence thing that's common in a lot of experiences It's not like people can go after you because they can't create polls Uh without having them approved and the polls that come out are like first place on my bff list Now the problem is this really is meant for teens a teen is likely to have you know 30 or 40 people in their contacts list I don't know they're gonna have a certain number of people that are mostly going to be their friends from school And their family whereas I have a contact list that stretches back to my handspring visor Uh in 1999, uh, so when it says first place on my bff list I get michael I don't know. I don't know what michael john devorak Annie gauss or mark mower Who's a friend of mine from college? But i'm like like my contact list sometimes i'm like guy from twitter and it's like And then I get adding him to my I get The next one is berke Kristen brant somebody I follow on twitter I've had on shows before she's great But I mean I don't know if she's most likely to win the lottery But lose the ticket or not. I just I don't know who this edward guy is that's on here So it doesn't really work for me, but I wonder my whole point setting all that up is this is really well designed if I'm a sophomore in high school Uh, I wonder if there's a way to do that for adults Uh to say hey, let's let's have a way to communicate with each other in a way that we enjoy and we find Uh add something to our life and encourages positivity I do like that idea of design that encourages a positive outcome And I hate to just be this like cynical person who thinks humans are horrible But it's like linkedin kind of does that when you're recommending somebody for a certain skill you're giving them, you know giving them props But even that is like It all feels so fabricated and that's for sure kind of an adult network, but uh or for grown-ups not adult network That's different I don't know people use linkedin for all sorts of things that can be very positive. I guess Exactly no judgment, but Yeah, it's it's something like Facebook adding, you know likes and hearts. It's You know, these are all It they're all they seem to be steps toward people wanting to have more tools to be positive because everybody realizes that the internet can be a Well cesspool sometimes, but yeah, I mean even to your point Tom somebody who like is never winning a poll on on tbh Well, that's not going to make you feel very good. You might not Do anything bad or be able to do anything that would be considered negative energy on that particular app But it's not necessarily going to stop you from doing it elsewhere. So it's like it's kind of dodging the real problem Well, I mean So yes, it's not going to feel you make you feel you very good if you don't get any positive anything on that app But it's very different from actively getting hammered over, you know, facebook comments Because you know, you have a picture of you where you look a little bit weird and you're getting bullied and shamed So I think the the the fact that I'm not saying this one app is the answer to everything what I'm what I'm wondering is should The the the risks or you know the distorted nature of social interactions over the internet Should that be taken into account? At the core level of some designs Maybe in the same way, you know, we're talking a lot about inclusion inclusiveness in the tech world now and When you don't have inclusiveness beyond the fact that it's good or bad or you know takes Makes business sense You create a different kind of product when you integrate this at the core of your thinking and uh in a different completely different area The internet does have some negativity attached to it in those areas. So Until now we've been we haven't really been Taking them into account. We haven't really been thinking about them. We're just assuming, you know, that's the internet but If we look at this when we design the product, I'm not saying We should have, you know risk-free poles and and uh safe spaces in every app we design from here on especially since it would Probably make for a fairly fake uh environment Although, you know, even on that point, I would say we have a lot of negativity maybe it wouldn't be such a bad thing to um Offset it by a little bit of positivity even if it's not artificial but selective, right? But um, but would the products designed with this in mind would they be different? I'm even thinking, you know Of I go on reddit a lot and in the past few months, maybe six months or so um, there's a new subreddit that has been that has been going up on slash all All the time and that reddit is wholesome memes and it's just Nice memes of people doing nice things and having nice things happen to them And it's usually gifts and stuff like that and it's not fake or not more fake than any other meme and it's not, you know artificial It's just that I think the community was feeling the need to To offset a little bit of the negativity and horror and horribleness that we see on reddit all the time by a little bit of positivity. So I I mean my personal opinion is that maybe we don't need to transform the entire way of what how we're doing things But maybe taking that into account because now we know now we've learned what? The internet and social interactions due to the way we interact with one another So maybe keep that in mind when you're designing your app And if you have a way to make a choice that will favor something rather than something else Which would be you know nicer rather than more horrible Maybe it would be a good thing. Yeah Well, thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit, which stays very nice I have to say you can submit stories of vote on i'm a daily tech news show reddit.com And also hang out in our facebook group, which is also a full of nice people facebook.com slash groups Slash daily tech news show time to get to our messages of the day sarah Yeah, first one comes from scott who says hi sarah and patrick. So scott knew that we were going to pick this email today I said I saw on monday show the discussion about the artificial pancreas and that's adventurous to me because i've had type 1 Diabetes for 36 years now a couple years ago There was an early part of the same study from the university of virginia It was a meetup for adults that he participated in at the time though The pump was not yet put under the skin. It was less automated, but it was still monitoring important levels Looking at this most recent report. They've gone a lot farther with the study. They've completed the loop they've made it fully automatic and Company called tannin will use the same algorithm when they upgrade the software on their current pump beta bionics another Company that's also been working on the eyelet insulin pump I'm supposed to be released in 2020 at least that scott's information He says this means the world to people with type 1 diabetes to remove the burden of carb counting Constantly acting as your own pancreas a relief that cannot be described by any words in any language He says as always I love what you guys do long time patron here And don't intend to stop anytime soon. Keep up the great work. Well scott that was so heartfelt my goodness That's it's so nice to hear from somebody who really needs this technology How much of an impact it actually makes on people all day every day Yeah, thanks for writing in scott. Appreciate the insight there And then de gradier from finally it's fall in atlanta said on monday's show It was good to hear that organizations that sell wi-fi enabled hardware were working to and or have already patched their products I still use my original iphone and I have a ton of older wi-fi enabled devices that I still use I'm not really worried about those but it made me consider the threat risk Of unsupported devices that are still in use that may have critical functions And what time of vulnerabilities will remain if the it cost of patching for crack has been determined to be too high Part of my job is ensuring devices that were deployed meet a particular level of protection And it takes years to patch things sometimes Also regarding using https to protect against crack How can I verify that the internet connection various apps create are using https? It's good point you use https everywhere on your browser doesn't mean it's going to help if you're using an app So thank you de gradier for that as well and thank you patrick beja for joining us Thank you for having me always happy to be on what do you got going on these days besides dts labs? Well, obviously dts labs games, which we recorded the first episode of with scott. We did a um Panorama of the consoles available today for this holiday season and which ones are good for what so you can go check that out And if you want more gaming you can go listen to pixels, which I also recorded with scott last week um, we talked about a the the controversy with loot boxes, which is uh pretty Heavily discussed in the gaming world right now And my love for shadow of war the new game in the lord of the rings universe Which I gave my impressions on on that episode. It's called pixels and it's available at frenchspin.com Thanks to everybody who supports us on patreon Nancy and steven tusan wrote in and said first i love the new format the additions the extras like dts labs When i heard about sarah joining i jumped at the chance to help out where i could But found it hard to figure out how to increase my donation I didn't realize patreon lets you change the amount before okaying the transaction. Duh I previously I just clicked the add a dollar box Which didn't add a dollar it just dropped my contribution to one dollar Just wanted to let you know in case there are others like me That looked for an easy way to increase their support only to have it backfire But didn't notice my wife and I love you all in front of behind and others like us beside the microphones Well, thank you, nancy and steve and uh, yeah Uh, you might want to check maybe you accidentally lowered your bill. I don't know patreon.com Dtns to support the show Our email address is feedback at daily tech news show dot com I've got an email address too and i'm in there. So I want to see more And we're gonna answer them In fact, that's not a little lab's idea we have but we'll come to that another day We are live money through friday at 4 30 p.m. Eastern 20 30 utc at alpha geek radio dot com And of course diamond club dot tv and our website is daily tech news show dot com Don't forget. We'll be back tomorrow with scott johnson talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com Diamond club hopes you have enjoyed this bro Good show you guys Excellent. You got you guys got really choppy towards the end. Am I choppy as well? No, you never did Everyone sounded fine. Yeah, every sound everyone sounded all right to me too It's weird. I think uh, it's the same as I got from sarah Last week, but I was in a completely different place. So I'm wondering if uh, hang on That issue last week was my windows machine the windows. Okay. All right. I mean you may have had something separate But what happened at the end because roger couldn't hear me either Oh, okay. That machine is now A machine that props up a different laptop It's it's gone to the farm upstate It's it's providing a good vertical inch plus Well, what should we call that good show? I to dongles Robot.tv There's also from internet with love Canadian Joan gets high too high Tom wants to pull the trigger on the surface book his finger disagrees Venmo good as long as you're getting paid Welcome to the internet. I love you. That's nice Carrot or pole approach to a nicer internet welcome to the nicer net I like the idea of someone paying me Don't fat shame me google We need a nice version of the web um The internet sugar coated Surface book loses weight the mountains will always get their drone Google I'm trying to do the mixed reality But I lost the dinosaur Oh, he needs me to tap. Is that daffy duck? No Yeah, this is not working. Welcome to the information super nice way But do you see the dinosaur that yes down in the middle there? So this is the windows mixed reality He just pops down on that shelf Oh, the low t-rex Yeah, way better in person all that technology. So you may have a dinosaur in your room LinkedIn is an adult network Exist with the positivity So he looks great right now on the floor, but I can't show you that because it's mixed reality From internet with love is at the top my two dongles comes in second. No, I can't yeah, he's still over there on the floor Welcome to the internet. I love you. I love it Love it Any votes? No, nothing I like doing something about the nice net. I just we there were a few versions of Those that I thought would all work. Let come on. Be honest. You just think this is all disgusting because you're so Uh, you think people are horrible. So you don't want to have love and the internet in the same sentence Absolutely not. I think some people are horrible, but most people are not horrible We've just built a weird internet where lots of people behave The internet people who are horrible appear more frequent and louder. That's my yes theory Um, right and they get to they get to repeat themselves multiple times over a vast Maybe we should be Lovely more loudly You guys are awesome. I think you're amazing. So from internet with love sound fake Uh, there's also we should be nicer on my tbh To be honest, I need the title now All right, let's go with from internet with love. All right See I feel fuzzy you're already right Fuzzy logic to fuzzy feelings Yeah, you know, that's that's all that's all that's ever wrong guys. Just compliment me more Or maybe they should go back to the nothing nice that you don't have anything nice to say Don't say anything at all. You have nothing nice to post don't post anything at all I don't know that's why my twitter is so empty What time are we commencing post or sorry bonus show Yeah, as soon as we're done here as soon as i'm done posting this we could just start Yeah, okay. I mean i'm not going anywhere. I'm just curious. Yeah I too am not going anywhere. Well, I heard what sarah is talking about The people at the co-executive producer and above level get a 30 minute bonus audio show every month I wish I could show this to you. Maybe I could take a screenshot. You really like dinosaurs What if you like the way the augmented reality works like it really works better than I expected it Um, it looks cool. I want to I want one of Sigmund Freud next to my bed so I can tell him All my crazy ass dreams I had a really prosaic dream the other night where I dreamt I had eight cars And I was busy trying to find street parking for all of them, but I misplaced three of them And I was running around across the city trying to look for them You know, I had a dream. It wasn't about Cars, but I had a dream that like I was in Amsterdam with my friend's dog And the dog like got away from me and I'm like trying to find the dog and I don't know where I am and There must be some like Feelings of organizational challenge those dreams man Because it's just like they're so it's not even really a nightmare. You're just like annoyed in the dream like You feel exhausted. It's like why did I dream about working when I just have to wake up and work Right. Yeah, or you're like, you know, what really would have sucked if I like Someone's dog like ran off on me and bore in my hand What if what if the dog was just like totally chilling out like one of those coffee houses The funny thing was the dogs this dog doesn't exist Like it's a fictional dog that my brain made up for a dream, but the dog's name was Brett And and it just it was like so many weird details where I'm like, what the heck You know, have I talked to a Brett recently? Like where did Brett come from? Maybe it's a Brett from your past I mean, I went to school with a Brett, but who didn't go to your dog He was he's full human as far as I know, but was he was he a faithful classmate? Uh, he was a nice one He was a very nice guy He's my facebook friend. I know what his kids are doing on tbh. Yeah, I was gonna say That's funny, you know That's that's kind of the extent of it All right, so I took a picture of the t-rex on my microphone And i'm tweeting it now on your microphone. Yeah, he was oh, right on your right, right the house rex The house rex you know Tom the t-rex I noticed that ray got to go into the office Into here you mean no Eileen posted a picture of of ray like in the car like she was going to work Oh, no, she was dropping her off at the place where she plays with other doggies. I got it. Got it. Yeah preschool Puppy preschool puppy school That's exactly what that's fun too. I thought it was a dog to work today or something No Ray's it's still a little bit whiny for that. I think that's why I I don't know if they're allowed to bring dogs in that new location or not. They were at the old place, but Yeah, sometimes brand new offices. They You know, yeah, when I was when I was working at pluto tv earlier this year Really nice office very like high up really beautiful view of kind of hollywood west hollywood and everybody had a dog and it was like It seemed like it would be more You know, uh Chaotic, but it it was actually really nice. I felt like the dogs just made everybody happy Yeah Well, they allowed dogs at youtube space in the office portion not in the space after a while because there's an incident apparently Well wards and things. Yeah but But uh, we never Sawyer couldn't go because he's too crazy And jango wouldn't go because uh, and you remember this from twit She will go around and eat everything out of trash cans if you're not stopping her, right, right? I had forgotten Uh, yeah that jango was fond of leftover lunch. Oh my gosh a tissue paper too This is gross Uh, so yeah, so I don't know what ray's office culture is going to end up being like Well, you know guys, I'm probably gonna I'm gonna leave Yes, of course. We understand well past midnight. Yes. Now that it's actually wednesday As you totally turn into a squash variant Well, it is past midnight and I haven't yet. So unless I'm lying on that half time zone thing Uh, I'm not turning into a Variety of squash. All right. 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