 Welcome to the Runlet Valdachi Report. It's gonna be my new show and Rob's new show on this station. I've been away for a few months, battling the big C word, but I'm so pleased to be back. I wanna thank all the people that sent me cards and letters and visited texts and so on and so forth. I can't thank you enough for that. And I can't thank this station enough for doing an award ceremony for me just a few nights ago where my buddies that are here today spoke on my behalf. It was such a great evening. But I wanna begin by introducing my co-host, Rob Valdachi. His political experience was serving as the brother and close advisor to one of the greatest governors in the history of the state of Maine in my humble opinion, Rob Valdachi. John Valdachi, excuse me. And then to my right is my beloved law partner, Ken Outschula, who is considered to be one of the finest political analysts both in the state and in the country. He's on national TV programs and he's on state TV programs and he has his own podcast. And last but absolutely not least, we could not get Donald Trump, but we have the next best thing. We have David Jones, who's the owner of F.O. Bailey, which by the way is over 200 years old and one of the oldest 75 companies in the country. David is very well versed in politics and is a huge Trump supporter. David, welcome on this show. I appreciate you having me here. Amongst this crowd is just a real honor. To the right of me. To the right. He wanted to be to the front. I wanted to make sure I sat all the way on the right. If we had to go far right, we'd have to put you outside the studio, David. That's fine. But I wanna open with the first question that will define your presence tonight. The election, 2020. Was it stolen? Was it rigged? And if so, by what brilliant crime committing Democrat did it? I don't think the election was stolen. I think that with the circumstances surrounding the election, we're not normal. I don't like this new way of voting. I think we should have ballots that we can physically count. And that way there's no question, but it is what it is. Joe Biden was elected president of the United States and once he's sworn in, there's nothing you can do about it. Refreshing! How refreshing! I know, it's a very... We could end the show. Can you tell Donald Trump that? Yeah. Although he's riding the wave of the false election to a new nomination. Well, you can say that as much as you want, but I've had the pleasure of meeting Trump and he's a very smart guy. He's not like, he's one of these guys in public. He's one person and in private, he's another. But his ideas, I think, are refreshing. I am a big advocate for reducing the size of government. I think, yeah, to about 20% of what it is today. Well, what are you going to cut out? What 75% are you cutting out? Why is it that we need so much government in our lives? But here's the... Do you need them to decide for you what you can do right and what's right and wrong for you? By the way, I know I've met Donald Trump. Yeah. Donald Trump is a brilliant populist. He rode the wave of fear to the election, which he did. He made Middle America sit back and say, oh my God, I'm going to lose my job. I'm going to lose, I'm losing everything to the immigrants that have come to the country and taking over and stuff. He's brilliant. Yeah, he was a brilliant... I think he used your playbook against you is what he did because all through the election, I watched that first. I spent a lot of time on the Trump campaign when he was campaigning here in Maine. I created a super PAC, the first one ever created in the state of Maine. It's called Making Maine Great Again. You got money. All right. We did what we could do to help Donald Trump win the state. We came very close. You should be doing the hush money that you gave. We don't see that. That's where you guys want to go. You know, Mike... Let me take one. That's my point about... Here's the point. He used fear and he also was brilliant in picking off one candidate as a candidate. So he's the only one in government that ever used fear? I mean, isn't that what they do to us? I thought it was Joe Biden did. FDR said the... Ladies and gentlemen... The worst thing, the greatest threat is fear. Nothing to fear but fear itself. Yes, he made middle America fearful of losing their jobs and having their white women rape by... Welcome to the Ken Owens Show. Welcome to the Ken Owens Show. Rob, we ain't gonna... We're gonna edge-wise. I think it's our show. I think, first of all, this is gonna be very entertaining. And before we get too much into it, and I can already see your complexion starting to get redder and redder as we go into this... You do look a little red in the face, man. We've only started here just a few minutes. But first of all, it's great to have you back in the seat. And I'm honored to be working together with you on this new program. And we've got some great guests coming up. Well, your job is to get the celebrities in the... Well, we're celebrities in the... Thank you. Go ahead, Rob. First question. Harry asked you a simple question about whether or not you thought the election was rigged. You said, David, that you believe that it was a fair and free election and that Joe Biden is the president. Duly elected. You are a Trump supporter. Trump continues to play this argument that the election was stolen. He continues to do that day in and day out. And how can you... And not to get into, at this point, the fact that we had an insurrection, he fired... That wasn't an insurrection. I was right in that insurrection, but come on. What's the difference? It was a big difference. No, come on. They stormed the Capitol building. They stormed the Capitol building. They stormed the Capitol building, right? There were people that got out of control, and I think it was a disgraceful day for America. But Donald Trump has to do that. He has to do that. Did you watch the video? Or did you just watch the lines that they wanted you to watch, CNN or something? I watched every minute of it. I saw Trump appointed judges finding people guilty of it. How many... What's your point there? What they did was wrong. What they did was wrong. How do you report somebody who instigated an insurrection? Very simply, because he's the only guy... Dave, he also put tremendous pressure on his vice president to do something that was totally unconstitutional, even at the best advice... And you know you have kind of proof of that, right? He said Mike Pence said that. Mike Pence... Have you read his book? No, I haven't read his book. Mike Pence has been on record saying he... Look, he's Trump's vice president. He talked to legal scholars. The opinion was, without a doubt, that he had no right to overturn that vote. His role was purely ministerial, and he did the right thing. One of the few things that Pence did that was right. Donald Trump announced that Mike Pence had stabbed them in the back, had betrayed them by not halting the count of the Electoral College, and outside the Capitol, they were saying to hang... Hang him. If they had caught him, he'd be dead. Yes. Oh, did you see some of the people in the insurrection? I saw the crowd, and I looked at the crowd, and you know, this was... There were instigators in the crowd? All right, then I... Are you saying that... Keep... The instigators in the crowd, FBI agents in the crowd, there was Capitol Police leading the people through the Capitol, especially the guy with his name with the headdress on. Yeah. They escorted him to the pulpit, all right? So they brought him there and walked him in. I watched the video. I watched the video. The videos that Tucker Carlson ended up with? Did they edit the video that I watched on TV? I'd have to see what you watched. It shows him walking in with his thing. Wait, hold on. Tucker Carlson, you're a good friend, okay? Is the one who took all the films from the security cameras and edited it, and showed on Fox News one police officer walking and people following him and played that into a... Well, there were two police officers and there were two people that were walking. It was one guy sitting up against the pulpit. Completely edited. And the other guy was escorted, right? Completely edited. All right, so clearly there's been a disagreement here. People hurt. Go ahead. People hurt. So the good thing is your credibility is very strong when you say you don't believe the election was stolen because I still run into people who say absolutely stolen. And the question... 25% of all Republicans believe that the election was stolen. But the question I ask of them... Disconcerting. The question I ask of them, which you don't need to answer, is how come all these judges couldn't find any evidence? I want to move to one other thing. I want to... What they couldn't find was evidence that they could prove in the court of law. Oh, no, there was... How about the... Isn't that where they're going to prove it? Well, it didn't hold up in the court of law. How about the Mike Pillow company's guy who said five million who said... Wait, Kenny, what? The Mike Pillow guy who said, I will pay a million dollars. Anybody can prove that the Chinese didn't get involved in the fraud... What about the dossier? And the arbitrator found the guesstimate and said, in fact, he did for the dossier. He has nothing to do with it. What's the dossier have to do with this? This is your candidate. What's your name? Hillary Rotten Clinton. All right, so you got... He went about burning women and everything. I lived who paid a million dollars. She had nothing to do with that. Oh, she had nothing to do with it. Listen, I'm not going to say... So all the dossier that was created by... I'm not... What's your name, Steele? I think his name is Steele. All right, come on. Are you saying that that didn't happen? Wait, hold on a sec. The Democrats were wrong. Jesus. Hillary Clinton was not. But the Democratic Party was just like the... The head of the Democratic Party cheated, frankly, the senator from Vermont out of potentially getting the nomination. I'm not saying Democrats don't do things that are completely unethical, if not illegal. I don't think Hillary Clinton did that and you guys can pick on her all you want. But certainly the Democrats, the National Democratic Party, certainly did. And so he wanted Hillary to get the nomination. Right. Fixed it. No doubt about it. But Hillary's not on trial today. No, no. And she's not running for president. She's not running for a pattern of what the other side has been doing to win elections, right? So you look at what's happened here over the years. We voted, we had an election. You know, Nixon, when he ran against Kennedy, he said, I'm done. 19-C, you're going back to 19-C. No, but I'm sure there was a battle. You had Ronald Reagan, Jim O'Neill. There was relationships there. People could work across the aisle. We didn't fight like this. We didn't... Right. That's a good point. We didn't label people. That's what bothers me. Yeah. It bothers me, too. And if you're any kind of a civil-ledded, level-headed person, you're going to know that, you know, that's just a methodology to divide us. And are we all stupid? That we're going to allow these people to manipulate us? Yeah, the American public, yes. The average American voter is an idiot. Absolutely. Well, when they're getting things done, you put it because we're wrong. No, we're wrong. I said, here's why. They vote because of its fear. And voting because of fear is a stupid thing. It's been that way since days of kid. I don't think so, Dave. I think Trump... You're ruled by fear. Trump has been the epitome of a grievance-oriented politician. He was able to tap in to the grievances that the average American has had. When this country, unlike a lot of European countries, we are a melting pot. We are a nation of immigrants. I'm Italian, Lebanese. Yeah, so you're not. Yeah. But you're a child of immigrants, too. I want to move off the 2020 and come to 2024. OK, yes. We all know the polls of just the last couple of days say that most Americans want neither Biden or Trump to run. Biden just announced he's running. Is he running or walking or crawling? Or... I mean, Trump is not that young. David, he's only a few years younger than Trump, older than Trump. He's only a few years younger than Trump. So I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't think Biden's going to go first this year now. By 2024, does anybody have a chance against Trump? Does the Senate? Does Pence? No. Not a prayer. So in your opinion, as probably one of the top Republican strategists here in Maine... Wow, I don't know about that. Well, I think you are. Your opinion is it's going to be Trump and Biden, isn't it? Because no one's going to run against Biden. And the Democrats are not going to allow a primary. They're not going to have a debate. No, they're not going to have a primary. But then he's sitting past that. They doubt, you've got Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is running, he's already polling at 15%. You've got other candidates that are running and they're not going to allow a debate. No. I mean, 15% out of the gate, it's not an insignificant number. Seventy-some percent of the Democrats, I think I've read a poll today, that do not want Biden to be the candidate. Oh, I think it's more than 74% percent. How about you, Ken? Ken, do you think Biden's a good candidate? Go ahead. No, I would not want to, well, first of all, I agree with you. The issue is going to be Biden versus Trump. So first of all, I agree with him. Would you not vote for Biden in that scenario? So Donald Trump is giving the nominee. Right. The Santa had a chance, but frankly, he does not play well with his personality. He's going down. And frankly, I think Donald DeSantis was a little more dangerous than Donald Trump because he was able to discuss some of his personal. Totally agree. Okay, so Donald Trump will be the candidate. Right. Here's the problem with the Democrats. And would Joe Biden be my choice? No. Okay. Who else? That's the million dollar question. Right. Who else? Oprah. Oprah. I think Joe Biden is too old. He comes off way too feeble. He can't walk. He can't talk. Hey, hey, hey, come on. I don't agree with that. Sorry. I don't agree with that, but that's not the point. The point is, Joe Biden can do one thing that no other Democrat can do. He can say, I ran against him and I beat him. Exactly. And that is his claim to the nomination. I think he needs a little more than that. No. What I'm saying is he can't do the nomination. I ran the basement of my home and I won an election. He didn't. He was out there. My favorite. We had COVID too, David, in all fairness. So the problem is, you have Pete Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, who I really liked at the beginning. She has done a very bad job, in my opinion. Well, she's never been given a shot. I agree, but her personality is not. She's like DeSantis. She's not a woman. She doesn't have the charm. And Donald Trump is a charming human being. I mean, people like him. I agree. I just asked all the 26 or 28 women who have filed sexual. So you asked any politician about all the heads that, what's his name, sniffs, as he's walking around in a crowd. I mean, you always got to throw that. This is where we go. This is where we go. We're getting down into the gutter now. You did it, Rob. You see, this is my point. And this is why I'm glad we're all here together. You had to bring up whatever bimbos this guy supposedly cares. There's 17 women who have alleged sexual misconduct. Are you electing a pope? Or are you electing a president? How many people have accused Joe Biden of sexually assaulting them? Name one. Name one. I'm not looking to go there. By the way, we all know that Kennedy and other politicians. Sexuals? And Clinton. Bill Clinton, what he did was immoral and ethical, and he should have resigned from the presidency. I have no doubt about that. He did not have sex with that woman. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Let's hope. All right, Dary has a question. By the way, Kamala Harris, not popular. Pete Buttigieg looks like a boy scout. He would not do it. You probably don't like Governor Whitmer from Michigan. I think she'd be a very good candidate. But nobody has the national exposure that Joe Biden is. So we're stuck with these, frankly, two angry old white men. Well, wait a minute, Joe Biden still has a record to be proud of. He's actually very successful. He's accomplished a lot in the face of tremendous partisanship, David. Really? David disagrees. Go ahead. Tell us why you disagree. Give me one instance of what he's accomplished. How about the reconstruction bills? How about the government bill? Right now, we're worth $31 trillion in debt. There's spending money. And Donald Trump authorized a $2.1 trillion. We're $31 trillion in debt. We have a $7 trillion tax cut that we're paying for, that our generation is going to be paying for. Whoever. Our kids are going to be paying for it. It's not about us. It's about our kids. It's about our grandkids. And this is where it has to stop. It's people like us that can make a difference. We don't consider throwing acronyms and slandering the candidates. Can I ask you a question? Sure. Does more rallying and being ethical and moral have anything to do with who we should elect for president? I think a person should be a decent, moral fiber, but it's going to be awful hard. Good to get someone. I think Barack Obama was ethical and moral. Do you think George W. Bush was ethical and moral? See, I think both those people were, frankly, ethical and moral. I do, too. Absolutely. I think George Bush brought some credibility to White House. I think Barack Obama, when he was, you know, the way he handled himself, he did what he did. Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was good. Ronald Reagan's the icon. So there's no doubt about it. Clinton had sex with an intern in the overall office. Was that my daughter? And Donald Trump? I'm sorry, president and no president. He insulted women. He's a liar. He's a thief. He's going to be prosecuted. That's what I want to do next. You're making assumptions. I want to get into that because we could spend all day. You're making assumptions. I'm going to. Go ahead. I want to get to the indictments. There's only one so far. I want to agree with you, David. I know you feel this way. I've told any Trump people, I think the New York indictment was absolutely foolish. It's a far. I don't agree with you on that, David. Go ahead and tell me why. Tell them why. First of all, Alvin Bragg, the DA, initially, when he took over that office from Cyrus Vance, made the decision to hold off on the proceeding forward with the indictments. He didn't feel there was enough evidence. Now, months later, he reached the point before a grand jury was able to deliver over 30 indictments, felony charges against Donald Trump, for hush money payments tied to the election. And I don't think he would have done that if he didn't think he had a solid case. He's been threatened. His family's been threatened. Horrible. He knew full well that if he went forward with an indictment of the first time in history of a former president that he was going to be getting the wrath of God thrown at him. And that's exactly what's happened. I think there's a hell of a lot there, Derry. I wouldn't dismiss it. Is it the strongest case against it? I think he should have waited. I think he should have waited. I don't know. I'm in between you guys. Go ahead. The misdemeanor charges were easy. The felony charges were ludicrous. Here's the problem. Criminal charges as Derry and I yet to prove beyond reasonable doubt. We all know that. All he needs is an excuse. You've got to tie it to for the election fraud. You've got to tie it into I did this for the election, which may be true. But all he has to say is I don't want my wife to find out about it. There's your reasonable doubts. I agree with you. The felony charges were and frankly I wish he had waited because I think the charges in Georgia are far more credible and supportive. I agree. The federal I think is the biggest thing in the world since the election. But the investigation is a very tough thing to prove. Very tough. Oh, absolutely. If you look at the definition of inciting a riot, it's almost like I hate to associate with libel and slander, but the actual malice standard which we had in the Fox News thing. That's a very high burden of proof. It's not your comment. Yeah. They said something wrong and that's libel and slander. No, inciting a riot, you've got to show intention. And you know, say what you want about Donald Trump. He didn't say, hey, everybody goes storm the Capitol and kill some people and dig over the government. Well, he pretty much did. No, he did not. He directly did. That's not enough. He stopped short. That's not gonna be enough. But when Giuliani says, trial by fire, that's a little different. He's a lawyer. I didn't say about Giuliani. We're not talking about Giuliani. Now look, you know, and I actually, on the race show, I interviewed Rudy Giuliani for about, yeah, for about 45 minutes. And we had some great conversation. And what, you know, I think in his day, Rudy Giuliani, Giuliani was a great man. In his day. In his day. It's embarrassing how he's become a man. You know, but I think, you know, he was told to say. He followed the money trail. Well, I don't know if that was it. I think he was just, he just went down the wrong path. But, you know, when I talked to him, I said, why is it that politicians are held to one standard and we as Americans are held to another? Why is it that Americans don't get away with anything and politicians get away with everything? Well, and it happens all the time. I mean, why men get away with a lot? No, it's, it's, yes. So you look at it and, you know, the common working man or woman in the United States that doesn't have money and they do something wrong. I mean, it's, the book's thrown at them. They don't have the money to buy out it and they get the good lawyers like, you know, Ken Ulster, right? Derry Runlet, right? So, you know, that's the truth. They can't afford it. So they can't afford it. The fans, they get a PD and what do they end up with? They end up in jail, criminal record in most places. If you had the money, it would be washed away. It's just that the Samsung got away with murder. All right? And we interviewed F. Lee Bailey who, thanks to Ryan. He has an entirely different point about it. Right, and OJ was killed. I know. I, but we had him on and I talked, and he swears up and down that OJ Simpson did. But my, my point is that, you know, there seems to be two standards here in the United States for America. All right. I grew up, what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. Can I just say, if you said I… What was wrong is left. with murder. He's avoiding the taxes. He's inflating the value of his property. You don't like the law. You don't like the tax law. That's fraud. That's fraud. It's not fraud. Doesn't that indicate, well, the brilliance on his path that he's been able to take over the city? That's what he said in the debate against Hillary. Yeah. You don't like to change the law. When you got a $700 million tax rebate, so he got a refund of $700 million. Yes, so what? If you could take it, if you had the ability to do it, would you do it? What? By lying? No, no, no, no. Did you? No, I'm not saying that. You don't know that he lied. You're suing. You see, this is where you go. Absolutely no, no, no. If you look at the tax returns, we know now that he inflated the values of the properties to borrow money and he deflated the prices when he sold it. That's what he did. But you don't hear anything coming out about tax returns anymore. Don't we all do that about that? We will. We will. It's gone. It's gone, yeah. The issue was the New York indictments. Yeah, yeah. That was Sam's books. I would not have done it. Look, I understand, see, I think it's the weakest of all the things we've done to you. I don't disagree with that. And my trial, it's not going to matter because it's not going to happen before the election. And you're going to have Georgia come out. Why Georgia's waiting until the end of summer to come out with their indictments? I don't understand. Okay, I'm going to jump right ahead. We're two attorneys. My partner Bill Childs agrees with me. Donald Trump, no matter what the charges, anywhere, anyhow, jaywalking in Kansas, whatever, will not serve one day in jail. No, he'll die before then. I agree. Appeals and all that stuff. By the way, you Trump supporters, you don't fear that something bad is going to happen to them, like go to jail or whatever. No. That's not going to happen. No. Right now it's playing to his advantage. Yeah. A million bucks a day. A million. My God, his run raising is out. As a victim. Off the charts, and it's America speaking. So do we have a representative Republican or not? This is not a democracy. So let's make it clear. This government is supposed to do what we want. And if people are giving him money, they want him for a reason. They feel like he represents that and their thoughts. Whatever it is. Whatever their reason is. Is it financial? The things that you like about him so much, when he gets to be president, is it foreign policy? Is it economic? What is it primarily that he's done so well? Just keep going. Because foreign policy, we have a lot of things that we don't want to do. Foreign policy. Everybody hates us. When he was president, everybody hated him. He should have gotten Nobel Peace Prize for the accord. He didn't get that. We gave Barack, we gave Barack and St. Obama a Nobel Peace Prize for nothing. He did nothing. And so Trump gets the accord in place and brings peace. What accord? What accord? What the hell was it? I forget what it was. Did he move the embassy to Tel Aviv? No, no. He moved the embassy to Tel Aviv. And I forget that I'm drawing a blank. I don't know why. But he brought these people together and they signed a treaty. I forget what that is called. I don't think there's anything he's ever done. No, he did. He went to get out of NATO, which would have been the end of Ukraine had he succeeded in that. Wow. Every country in the world bring the sigh relief when he was not elected president. Well, I don't know if that's true. We didn't have all these countries saying they're going to abandon the dollar. The dollar was stronger. Our economy was stronger. Our gas prices were half the price. The last one who balanced the budget. Why do you want to ignore the facts? That's what bothers me. We're going to have one person talking at a time. The president is a lawyer. The president gets way too much credit when the economy is good. Way too much blame when the economy is bad. Let's give me an example. George W. Bush was not at. Bill Clinton was the cause of the mortgage meltdown in 2007 and 2008. Absolutely. That was not George W. Bush. Who got blamed for it? George W. Bush. George W. Bush. George W. Bush. And the point is this. Presidents have very little to do with the success or failure of the economy. They really do. I agree. Donald Trump did not make the economy strong. I don't agree. The economy was strong and Donald Trump was president when that happened. Oh, so when he took over everything was just hunky-dory. It was crashing before. But we were energy independent. You've never been independent. We were energy independent. Never. Never. We were producing more oil than we are today. Never. The Biden turns around and says, well, the oil companies, they won't produce. Well, they won't produce because he won't. They won't. He won't. They're scared to invest the money. They won't produce because it's a pendulum. It's a pendulum. No. Because the markets have to. And when it was president, it chops the head off of whoever they want. Rob, go ahead. Sir, no. I mean, this is good. This is good to play. How about Fox? Why did Fox pay $756 million? They lied. They never admitted it. They never admitted it. They didn't have to. That was the deal. That was the deal. They made the deal. This is what I'm saying. This goes back. What do you mean they lied? Well, obviously, no one's going to spend $3 quarters of a billion. How do you feel about that, Dave? I watch news. I don't believe anything I hear. And I believe half of what I see. Well, my niece constantly talks about fake news, fake news on NBC. I never heard NBC pay any settlements to anybody or CBS. Well, I'll give you an example, Derek. Go ahead. I was in top one in 2016. I rented a room at the Regency. And we had a few hundred people there. We had a victory party. No one thought he was going to win. I knew he was going to win. So we had the party. And we had four TVs there. And we had MSNBC, CNN, Fox, and one other one. Right? And so it was funny because here, Fox is reporting that he won. And MSNBC had him at 205. CNN had him at 215. And they would not call the states. The states were very close. It doesn't matter. It was called. They knew what they had. They had the results. Even in 2020, they waited for the last minute to call. Why would they do that? And then they sit there and cry. And they start throwing four-letter expletives out. Who did that? Who did that? Who did that? I forget his name. It's a guy I can see his face. I remember CNN. No. It would have been on MSNBC. On national TV? On national TV. Four-letter? Yep. Well, I must have missed that. I'll pull the clips. But the bottom line is... But we agree that paying $756 million, just like with the Michael Jackson lawsuits, he pays $27 million to some kid that made it up. The other thing is... Yeah. You don't write that kind of money if you didn't do anything right. I still wonder how Stormy and this playboy model had the audacity to extort money from the most powerful man in the world. That's another story. But Fox... Why are you faulting Stormy Daniels? I'm not. I'm not faulting her at all. I'm just saying... The audacity? What do you mean? An ordinary person wouldn't say, I think I'm just going to extort money. An ordinary person is not a porn star. But moving on to Fox. Moving on to Fox. Nothing is going to be wrong with that. Will Fox... Does Fox agree that they... By paying that, did they admit to... At least to you they did. We don't know what the terms are. I sat there and had a conference with them but I can tell you that they don't write that kind of check unless they know they did something wrong. Fox News did issue a statement that said that they lied in effect. What they did do is make the on-air personalities admit that they had lied on air. Ken, do you think that's why Tucker just got the axe? I think Tucker is one of the fall guys for Fox. And frankly, I mean, I've got to give Fox credit. He's got a 2.4 million person audience. I mean, it's incredible. I have other faults with Tucker Carlson because I think he's homophobic. I think he's racist. White supremacist. I think he's got white supremacist. He always spoke howly of you, Ken. Thank you. But when you look at it, you've got... Sean Hannity was no better. And I mean, you think about somebody who's really... Ann Coulter, who actually was an anti-Trump for a while. I mean, there was a conservative who called it like it was. Besides, it was Cheney, who should be a national hero, by the way. The bottom line is, you know, it's a surprise to me why Tucker Carlson got the boot. I think he's a fall guy and I think there was some other issues about him that led to it. But I don't know why he's the one. I think there'll be some of the people leaving. And I choose not to speculate on that. Are you doing really? Dave, let me ask you a question. I think we have the evidence. No, we don't. But what we... Again, it's speculation. David. But we have his emails. We have his emails. Let's talk about that. What I was going to say is, Tucker Carlson's on record, among others, disparaging Donald Trump with passion, despising him. And yet, at the same time, they go on air extolling his virtues. I mean, how do you reconcile that? I mean, do you... Well, did you see his interview with Trump? Well, Trump was a great interview. I mean, he asked some hard questions and Trump answered them. How did he ask the very hard questions? Dave, there's a good interview. You have the tapes. You have the emails and the texts of these Fox commentators who... Say one thing on air and another. Right. And talk about the election. They're entitled to their opinions. They're extolling his bullshit. Yeah, but if you can pretend you're a journalist. No, wait, wait. They just... No, no, no, no. They're not journalists. They're commentators. They're commentators. They're commentators. And they're scripts. Commentators should be telling the truth. Yeah, exactly. Then tell the people that they work for, not to write the script the way it is, because all they are, in my opinion, is parrots. The reason why... They're great at rating whatever's on that screen. Why? Because I think what's happened because of the settlement, I think Fox News is going to exercise more control over the content. And Tucker Carlson does not want anyone to exercise content, his content, because... And I think it's all a matter of they're going to put some restrictions on him and he doesn't need it. He can go anywhere. I mean, really... Well, he signed off on Friday, so he was going to be on yesterday. He had no intention. So something happened over the weekend. We don't know what it is. Yeah, it was the last minute. Absolutely. And look, I've heard all kinds of things. I'm sure everyone in this room has. But do I believe any of it? Like I said, I believe none of what I hear and half of what I say. Dave, you and Ray have hosted a show, a radio show. It's a Ray Richardson show. Ray Richardson is my partner. So you had Sean Spicer on your show this morning. Did you talk at all about the Tucker... Yeah, we talked. We talked. I mean, he's an inside guy. Well, he went... He's known Tucker since high school. Okay. So it's not just a... Was he shocked? We didn't ask if he was shocked, but he did say, if you think this is the last you're going to hear from Tucker Carlson, you've got another thing coming. Right? And I agree. What will happen? What would Dave do? Is someone else to pick him up? Someone else? If I were Tucker Carlson, I'd start on that work. Well, there are some rumors going around, actually, that Bill Riley and Tucker Carlson are thinking about starting, you know, buy Newsmax, buy... You know, Riley Carlson the putt taken right after me. Yeah, I know it. What's with that? But I mean, you know, there's... You know, in my mind... There's definitely room for a new network. You know, I... I watch the other ones, all right, painstakingly. But I do, you know, the only show I would watch anymore really is Tucker, because he takes on the tough tub. He's a liar. He's a liar. Well, we... See, he lied. See, he clearly lied. This is why America is so divided. It's because that's all we want to do is call people names. Oh, hold on a second. Hold on a second. What's the root of the problem? When you look at... You said you... The only thing you watch is Tucker Carlson. You said that. John, I'll take the time. I don't watch TV. Here's my response. All right, so get that. Here's a guy who, as Rob said, wrote emails saying, I hate this guy. I can't... I don't think I can take another minute of this guy. He's a liar, extolling his virtues. So if you're watching a commentator who you know is lying to you, why are you watching him? You can't believe a word he says. He's a liar. Can you believe the words that any of them say? Some commentators, I can't. Who? Tell me one you can really trust. I wouldn't trust Don Lemon, but... Yeah, he's gone. No, he's gone. But I... You know what I would trust? Anderson Cooper? I would trust. I think Anderson Cooper is a saint. And his king. Not a political commentator. I wouldn't trust him. No, but I watch MSNBC. I watch CNN. I used to watch Fox. My brother, John, watches Fox. Why, John? Because he wants to hear the other side. Sure. I used to listen to Russell Limbaugh all the time. Kenny, I try to watch Fox. I can't. When they focus on Hunter Biden's laptop, when they focus on all of these... I mean, those things don't matter, right? They don't matter because he's not the president. He's not the president's guy. Hunter Biden is not the president of the United States. He's not. But his father enables him. His father conspired with it. All right? And the laptop's the key to it. So I guess it really doesn't matter. You know, the big guy's there. You know, who cares? David, as soon as they go back... By the way, I have to say... Okay, so they went back to Cabinels' 15th birthday. Well... But he's running for Supreme Court Justice, right? By the way, I didn't like the Kavanaugh thing, and everybody going back to high school, whatever. I will say that that's why... I think that was constant. The stormy thing, putting that up. But I want to focus on what I consider to be one of the most important issues for this president. And that's Ukraine, those poor Ukrainian people, those innocent people that are being killed. Please tell me what Trump will do that. Trump would not have gone into different... Well, number one, it wouldn't have happened if Trump was president. But how would he have stopped the president? It would not have happened. There was a mutual respect there between him... But what would he do to him? You don't respect... He's sleeping in bed with Putin. I agree with that. So, look... I can't wait to see the pictures they have. All you're doing, you're not resolving. What would he do to resolve it? What would Trump do to resolve it? Look, Trump's foreign policy worked. You know, he brought peace to the Middle East. He moved the embassy in Tel Aviv. What peace to the Middle East, please. Come on now. I got a call on this. How did he bring peace to the Middle East? How did he do that? Somebody should Google it for me. You said it, my friend. How do you... The Palestinians and the Israelis have been in war since 1967. Are they at war now? Yes. They are. They're bombshoots every day. Every day. And people are dying every day. Yes. In the last week, they just had... Generations. They just had... Well, that's been going on for 5,000 years. He did that. I've been there. I've been there until the presidency. Ukraine is today. So, you asked... What will you do about Ukraine? I'm not for sending money to Ukraine. All right? I'm not for having... Trump's the only president that didn't get us in another war. Now, are you going to take that away from him, too? He did get us in another war. He did not. He's the only president that never got us involved in another war. This guy, Biden, right now... Why didn't Obama get us involved in a war? Did he? No. He was in office for 8 years. No, no, no. Big deal. Trump's policy, his foreign policy, was stellar in my book. He had respect. America first. I got stellar. I love the United States of America. Dave, we all do. Okay. Then let's work to fix it and make sure that... Should we not be transferred to a foreign country? Should we not be transferred to Germany? We shouldn't be spending money on a foreign country. So, shut down NATO. Hold on. When we have people in the United States that are starving to death, can't put oil in their car. We spend way too much money on welfare. Let's not go to the camera. Can't put gas in their car. The bottom line is, if we invest in our own country, I sell real estate. People buy ramshackle shacks, and then they re... There's two types of investors. One, bleeds it for all the money they can get out of it, and the other one reinvests into the property. That's capitalism, my friend. But the one that reinvests has the long-term gain. He ends up with a nicer property. What's that to do with Ukraine? What it has to do with investing in the United States instead of foreign country. So, we should just live back there and see Ukraine? No. Peace through force is the only way. I don't want boots on the ground. I don't want American soldiers in Ukraine. I don't want money sent to Ukraine. Let me finish this. I have a friend, and I won't say his name. He was very good friends with the administration in Ukraine. There was $120-some billion that they said they gave to Ukraine. Well, let me tell you. You know how much that money actually reached Ukraine? Yeah. Please tell me. No. It's not getting there. The money is not going into all the hacks that are getting fed money. I'm telling you, they're not seeing it. He said maybe. I question that. No, I don't. I know my friend is 100%. Here's my question. Maybe $25 billion or $120 billion. All right. Let me answer the question. There's my question to you, because the first thing you said was it would have never happened. It would have. You're claiming that Putin would not have tried to annex Ukraine, and what he said was very clearly, I want to restore the Soviet Union to its greatness. I'm going to go after countries that used to be part of the Soviet Union. I'm going to start with Ukraine, and he wanted access to the Black Sea. And he didn't want NATO on his border. And why would he? That's right. Now he takes over Ukraine. Wait. Hold on. What's next to Ukraine? Hold on here. Poland, right? Aren't they in NATO? They're next. But he didn't want to. It's all started because Ukraine was going to join NATO. That's why this happened. How would Donald Trump have prevented that from happening? Putin would have backed off because the great Donald Trump was addressing it? No. It would have been a red carpet for him. Absolutely. He would have known Donald Trump would have done nothing to stop that. He would have watched into Ukraine. What about Crimea? So, David, can we agree that you say you don't want us to send money, but can we agree that the president who is elected should do something about this Ukraine thing? Something about it? Maybe? No? Not so much? We've got Americans here that need help. We have people in the United States from America. We have to invest in our country. We have to invest in our own country. We're not going to use that money for poor people in the United States. And why is that again? Because this is a Republican philosophy. We have people storming the United States. Wait. What's the answer? This is a Republican philosophy. That we don't invest in our country? Smaller government? Amen. You don't give money to welfare? No. No, we don't expect welfare. No, hand up. Not a hand out. That's my motto. You're not going to take care of poor people. That's not what the Republicans do. Poor people can take care of themselves. Do you need to take care of them? Some people need to. Why? Some people do. I'll admit there is a small portion of our population. Here's a point right here. You're saying that a small number of people in the United States actually need gifts and so on and so forth. Yeah, there are people that are challenged, disabled. I want to take care of them. But if Americans historically want to work, they want to work. And we've taken that away from now. And it's like, you know, how do you catch a wild pig? You put up one side of a fence, some corn. Next day you put up another side of a fence, some corn. The pig comes in. Put up a third side of a fence with some corn. The pig comes in. Oh, put a gate up with the door and throw the corn in there. And then you close it. No, I'm equating it with people. Forget about Ukraine. I'm talking about Americans. If they become dependent on government, all right, then that's where the problem is. And that's what they want. They want to be dependent on government. I don't believe in a welfare system. And I believe that people- You don't believe in what? A welfare system. I don't think any of us do. I believe people who get welfare should do welfare. Stop it. But here's what I'm saying to you. You're saying let's not give Ukraine money. Let's keep it in the United States and spend it on poor people. That's not going to happen. I didn't say spend it on poor people. No, tax cuts. More tax cuts. I said invest it in the United States. But how would you invest in more manufacturing jobs? Why are we outsourcing so many things here in the United States? Why do we outsource so much? Because other countries have slave wages and don't have the- And why are our wages more expensive than their wages? And why are they not able to buy? Because we make sure that people are protected in the world. So they're protected and starved to death. But that's all right. What I'm saying is if you're talking about the average American worker, okay, we have minimum wage. China doesn't have a minimum wage. Have you been to China? No. I've been to China a few times. They haven't been in a way. And I've literally been all over the world. You said they have a minimum wage. They have a way of doing business. Yeah. Slave labor. You want to hear? No. How about in Malaysia? How about in Thailand? You're not in Cambodia. We're talking an hour. And the hour is almost up. Is it really? Jesus. Can we go an hour and a half? Well, we're coming back. I'll tell you this is too good. David, one of the things I wanted to get to, because this is sort of our show. Sort of our show. Sort of our show. Sort of our show. It's the Kenneth James show. That would be good. That would be a good show. Tonight it became your show. But I want to say, I want to get to this issue, because it comes right to the heart of me. I have a transgender child, a daughter. Yeah? It's the LBGTQ issues are very, very important to me and to many people that have, why is the President, the President, the Sanitas, the main Republicans, some of them, why is this LBGTQ issue so big to them? Why do they care? We've done that. Can you tell us why the Republicans are around? Well, it's not just Republicans. Okay? So 29% of the children in Maine that are in high school in the state of Maine are confused about their gender. 29%, it's just statistic. We can prove it. Let me just point out to you. 29%. No, in the state of Maine, there are 1.9% of Maine citizens are transgender. That's not what I said. Well, how do you get the statistic? 29% are confused. Where does that come from? Well, you let me talk. Yeah. I don't know where that comes from. Where does this come from? Don't just throw out a number. It was a study done in the state of Maine. By whom? I'll tell you where I got my statistic. The bottom line is 29%. Listen to what I say. Listen to what I have to say. Listen to what they do. Throw out numbers. No. And people say, oh, 29%. 29% are the children in high school. Are you listening to what I'm saying? I don't believe you, because you've noticed that you can't get it. Can you let them? Yeah, let them. Use that number without any backup. You know, I can back up mine. There's certain things I remember with certain things that I don't. So what are they going to do? What laws are going to be passed? So why is it such a big issue? I grew up in New Jersey, and we had some people that were gay. They were my niece. I have a gay niece. I have some gay friends. And the ones I talked to about, they don't feel like it should be an issue. I mean, you want to be who you are, be who you are. What passed laws on that? Why do you have to have things like transgenders competing in girl sports? Why not? So a guy that's ranked 432 in the country jumps in and says, all of a sudden, I'm a girl, I'm a girl. He's number one now, and he takes it away. Now you're doing it. I don't care. It happened. Let me talk about that. So this is what they're doing. That's the point. That was number one. He asked me a question. But he's talking about, he's making it up on the fly here, guys. I'm not making it up on the fly. The guy from the University of Penn who won the State Contest and the Big Ten Contest came in last place nationally. So he didn't put anybody out of the awards ceremony. Nobody. It was all a facade. It was all makeup. Your daughter, let me ask this. Your daughter's all her life trained to be an athlete. She wouldn't care one bit. Let me finish. My daughter's no better in her races than she was before. Right. So your daughter... He's a good guy who can run. Right. Your daughter trains her entire life to run a race. But she didn't change. So she could run in races. I get it. That's the point. That's not what I'm saying. No guy becomes a woman. I'm trying. You see, I love his 3Ds at 1R. I'm not a D. No, he's not a D. He's a... I'm an I. I'm unregistered. It was such a design. So that's one point. Right. And the other point, I guess, is education. We don't want to discuss it until we're 18. We don't want them hearing about it from teachers that can't go to the principal or the guidance counselor. It's a good job to educate our children. They're asked by the students. Did you see the books that are in schools today? Yeah. They all will convert people. If it was going to be gay, they're going to read them. No, no, that's not what I'm... Become a teacher for listening. Is that what we're worried about? I don't know what he's talking about. Do you want a five- or a six-year-old kid looking at pornography? That's not pornography. Why don't we just play more books in there? That's not pornography. Have you seen a book that's a five- and a six-year-old kid? Absolutely. And it's pornography. What title are you referring to, sir? Gender Queer. That's not pornography. Have you said that? Yes, I am. Oh, that's not pornography? It is absolutely not pornography. Really? That's why I am referring to it. So you're going to read that... No, you're going to read that pornography. You would read that... Absolutely. Let me... Oh, way ahead. Marjorie Taylor Greene calls the Democrats pedophiles. You don't go that far. No. That people that... No. There are some... My daughter, when she went through this... Some individuals that run for governor are pedophiles. That's right. I would be very offended if Marjorie Taylor Greene would say I'm a pedophile because I supported my daughter when she was 40 years old and wanted to turn to her. You don't agree that we're pedophiles? No. Okay, thanks. Absolutely not. Why would I? Let me ask this question, Dave. In life, I get up and I go to the show with Graeme because I care about people. I'm not so far from Marjorie Taylor Greene. I want to see us find a way, and Rob talk, and I talk about this all the time, that we can come together, all right? And not have these... Just like the Beatles. We're throwing the stuff together. We throw stuff out all the time, and all it does is ignite the fire. I just want to find common ground. I want to go back to the days when we had Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill. You know, relationships. Mitchell and Dole. What have we got? And Tom Daschle hugging George Bush on the center floor. I mean, why can't we just do that and put... Because, you know... It's a new day because that won't happen. No, no, see, you're accepting... You're not going back there. Reagan said if anyone who agrees with me 80% of the time is not my enemy 20% of the time. And that's really what it's all about. So we let these stupid issues that are divisionary issues get in the way of good decision-making. David, where does it come from? I think it started... Well, I think it started before Donald Trump came down the escalator at Trump Tower, bashing the Mexicans and proposing a wall that Mexico was going to pay for to just wall the United States off from these brown-skinned immigrants who were... Well, how many friends do you have that died from fentanyl? I've known a few. Do you know how much that comes in? I've had three nephews die. It doesn't come in over the border. That's not how they come in. Oh, well, what's the flying in on a stork? Yes, it doesn't come in... You know, most illegal aliens are here because they got in legally on a green card and didn't return. So when they capture the immigrants coming into the country with pounds of fentanyl or balloons inside their belly... I mean, you know how much fentanyl it takes to kill a person? You can make fentanyl better. You can make fentanyl better. Yeah, it's like... Absolutely. It's insane. That's not where all the fentanyls come from. That wall... I truly believe it. That wall is going to... I think it's a huge... I think it would have been a huge benefit. You're absolutely wrong. No. Well, have you been down there? There's not... How about you and I go down there and look at it? Dave, the statistics, it's just so good at statistics, show that the influx of... Who prepared the statistics? Doesn't come in over the border. Who prepared the statistics? The Drug Enforcement Agency is where I got my statistics before you get here. And they'll tell you that, first of all, most illegal aliens in the country got here legally on a green card and haven't left. That is something like 90% of illegal aliens. And the drug influx, the drugs come in from airplane for boats. The people coming over the border looking for asylum arping and fiddling with them. My point was, you were talking about the Kumbaya moments to come together, all for that. Why don't we have it today? And I think the rhetoric and the hate and the... that's being spewed out of the mouths of Donald Trump all the way down to a majority of Taylor Greene's and Jim Jordan's... They made it worse. But I think it's made it worse. It's made it worse. It's made it worse. It started with Obama. It started with Obama. The mega crowd are... I think in their vision, they're threatened by brown-skinned people. They're threatened by new immigrants coming into the... Mega. A lot of them. Mega. There we go. Mega. Our president said mega. White supremacists, white Christian supremacists want to see this country become like them. They want this... Like it used to be. Like it used to be back in the 50s. When blacks and women knew their place. Yeah. Oh, so is that... And I think that's... And I think that's... David, I think that's where the Republican Party is at. I think Trump... I don't know a single Republican and I know a lot of Republican... A lot of them, you know. And I don't know anyone I've ever heard that say that I would consider racist... Did you hear what Donald Trump said on the famous bus about women, how he treats women? Why are you bouncing around? Every time I get on the topic, I've got to bounce off of this. Because I said Republican. Donald Trump has set an example of sexism. See, everyone's... The world's coming to an end because it's Donald J. Trump. The world's coming to an end to an end, as we know it, because we have lost our way as a country. We have lost our way. We've gone to GOV and not GOD. The bottom line is there's no religion in our homes. GOV is God. You know more people have died in the name of God than any other reason. It's always been the source of all words. That's why I say God is not the solution there. If you read any history book, opinion or behavior is. But behavior is. But religion is not. Religion is an indoctrination. No differ the Republicans and Democrats have an indoctrination. We only have five of those. Right. And I want to say this because I want my hour public to know this. To the Democrats that are Annie Trump, I say to them, you know, back off, every time you go after them, every time you get upset, he makes more money. So what if you just back off for a while and stop hating them so much? be the still news that's number number two and for the for the Trump people I say to you why worry nothing's happened to him but some of my friends get so upset oh you know the New York I say to them he he he he has enough trouble going to the restroom every day he's 77 years old to eat it takes more time to just live just to play golf I don't think Trump sits up all day long so I say to both sides let it let them let the we're talking about Trump for an hour so you're part of the problem there exactly and because what I'm saying is to any Trump is relax relax if he's supposed to go down he'll go down I've said this before and again if Donald J. Trump committed a crime then he should be held accountable like any other American show thank you period all right but I do not like the persecution I do not like the surveillance I do not the fun they don't like to our agencies being used and weaponized against individuals I don't know what I mean it's been we want to ignore the fact that that they surveilled Donald Trump you want to ignore that the dossier was created by hell you want to ignore agency agencies agency the FBI's trail Donald Trump to a lawful do a law prior to and oh and what did you read the one did you read the war a judge you read the war the warrant it was legal no who I don't want to be who else under under on the perjury they said would they they sign that warrant and they lied all right so go after that person but that don't play that a lot of people get warrants and they'll the judge blah blah blah blah David David do you trust the judiciary in this country to deal with these issues a good question what's that I don't have you don't like after the Texas judge did the anti-abortion pill and that's a whole other issue yeah which we didn't get there but what we're gonna by the way we're gonna do this again because you guys are too much fun yeah as we go through the the upcoming election I think it'd be great to bring you guys back you know I brought you guys a little present I can't wait is it right right here make America right now one at the office thank you one of my friends gave me a Donald Trump coin yeah and he since passed away and when he gave it to me I told him I said I will cherish this and I will listen to you buy a Trump steak but I will tell you David and I agreed upon this when he came down the escalator I turned a marijuana said he's going to be the president and I said the same thing the week Montendale and Sandy Montendale huge Trump supporters by the way and they loved me for that comment ladies and gentlemen I've got to tell you how pleased I am to have Rob with me again Rob the final word about where you think we're going to go in the future toss about the Gianni Russo yeah we've got Gianni Russo coming back of you the Hollywood Godfather is coming back in July we're gonna have a full hour with them and I know you and Ray are going to be having them on the show that's right Kenny talk a little bit about your podcast news to me it's news to me podcast good just put my name Ken all children it's hard to pop them out but it's news to me podcast Apple podcast weekly I drop it on Sunday 15 minutes I don't want and for the best real estate guy around David Jones F. O. Bailey and I do rate with Ray Richardson we do political brew every week on W. C. S. H. and you and Ray W. L. B. I do show with him on Tuesdays and Wednesdays morning it's from six to nine I stay here sometimes six to ten well it's four hours David David you're a wonderful guy and my friend Ken you're over the top I love you folks we're hoping on in May the temptations are coming to Portland I have a friend that knows him very well I'm hoping to have at least one of the temptations on this show Rob and I are going to go to the concert and see the temptations before tops and we're hoping the next show will be a little lighter than this one it'll be controversy it will be the temptations we'll be bringing you back oh yeah bring you back and thanks so much for watching the run like Baldachi report thank you