 Okay. All right. Welcome to the translation of the talk Festival of Democracy by Daniel Möhring, Holger, Nuri Maren and Oliver Gemballa. There were a few collaborations that happened during the G20. Also in cooperation with the CCC there were especially relevant for this talk today. There is no time project and the FCMC and they're probably going to explain what they exactly did. And we both have representatives of both of these initiatives. All right. And translation to you for you will be doing today, Mahler and Ningvi. So have fun with us. Bear with us. I hope you're still enjoying Congress on day three. And all right. Have fun with the talk. Applause from the audience. We can hear a helicopter noise at the moment. They're trying to raise it up. So it's even louder. Still helicopter noise. I think they're trying to get you in the mood for what Hamburg sounded like during the days of G20. Thank you that we can be here. There was more helicopter noise. All right. We want to introduce to you FCMC, the alternative media center and Tint, 48 hour live stream. And both of these are projects that have very different scales, but both of them used media. And there was TV like formats that were used to get to a broader audience and public. But before we start describing these projects, let's jump back a little bit in the chronology of things. And Marin is going to talk a little bit about how Hamburg developed and felt like before G20, a time where we all really felt that something needed to be done. All right. The G20, I wanted to bring that back to memory. I mean, obviously a lot of you already knew G20 is an informal get together of the most important industrial and bordering countries which followed the G7 and G8 and is the important meeting where finance, climate politics, migration changes, things like that are being discussed. So there's a lot of stuff that's being discussed and that can be criticized without even talking about the people being present such as Putin, Trump and Erdogan. Have we seen them? All right. Look at them. That's them. That's the G20. In the beginning of the year of 2016, it was announced that the German government was going to have the head of G20 and decided that they were going to have it in July 2017 in Hamburg. And that is interesting from a question of why it makes sense to have things like that happening in cities like Hamburg. And I mean, ever since Seattle and Geneva, I mean, it's been a question of does it really make sense to have these? And I mean, like the one in Heiligndam in 2007, there was a reason that it was put in the peripheries. Like why? Because it's a lot easier with the infrastructures and also with security reasons to have these meetings and get-togethers in the peripheries. So this time around, they wanted to have to show kind of as a proof of democracy to have the big summit, the G20 in a big city. There was a public information event happening in 2016 in the Congress Hall in Hamburg, which was selected as the place where G20 was supposed to be taken taking place. The blue zone is the inner city of Hamburg. The Congress halls are very centrally located. You can see the FCMC. You can see down below where Tint was located. You can see where the Philharmonics were are. And you see how it's like located right in the center. And you can see right next to FCMC, there's St. Pauli and Standschanse and the Red Flora, which are the party and bar districts of Hamburg, and especially Red Flora as one of the alternative left centers. And it was becoming more and more clear that it was a question of safety to have that taking place directly in the heart of the city. And half a year before the summit took place, you could see the situation dramatizing further and further and you could see the increase of the discussion around safety and security issues with regards to the summit. And in September, there was an event. People were invited. It was about double the size of this room. There were about 800 people who lived in the area who came to show up to understand and get informed. And they wanted to know how the politicians thought that what the summit would look like and how it would concern them. And there was two microphones in the room through which they could ask questions. Of course, there were gigantic queues of 50 to 100 people right behind the microphones. The two microphones that were in the room, and there were always a lot of concern and worries, and people weren't really interested if you could celebrate children's parties during the summit. And if it was possible to get a pizza delivered, those were things that were also amongst the questions that were asked. But there was also massive concerns that were being raised from people who live in the area. Contrary to the questions asked, the politicians representatives, the political representatives, especially the Minister of Internal Affairs and the Mayor of Hamburg stood their ground that the summit having it in a big city like Hamburg, it should be working and showing that a democratically functioning society can handle stuff like that. And we have given the title to this talk. Can we go back to the title? Yeah. Okay, thank you. A Festival of Democracy. Or is it a scheduled state of emergency? And it became more and more clear that this was supposed to be used as an event to drive the discourse of inner safety and security and the fight against terrorism. So there was a lot of power given to the police. It was announced beforehand by Antti Grotus, the Minister of Internal Affairs, that this event, the summit, would be basically a window into the workings of modern police work. And that it was never really considered that it was clear from the get-go that this was not supposed to be a de-escalation. There were 10,000 police officers that were supposed to be there. And in the end it was 31,000. And I think, to be honest, this number was probably higher, the dark number of, we probably don't even know how many press, like how many policemen were actually present for the summit. The Hamburg Yellow Press took a gigantic role, the Hamburg Abendland warned off the biggest black bloc that would be facing Hamburg. And the welcome to hell demonstrations that were announced the night before the G20 was supposed to happen. And it was put into direct correlation to the escalation that was, it was basically announced beforehand before it actually took place. And it was, and then that's what then happened on the night of the 6th of July. There was a new temporary prison that was introduced. There was a social media team by the police that was being increased and staffed more heavily that were supposed to do the work on, the police work on Facebook and Twitter. There was telephone lines for civilians, the press department of the police is being higher staffed. And you can see, month in advance before the summit, you have the different discourses that are filling the rooms. We're on the one hand, there's the discourse, it would be better to just leave the city. There's advice to just, there's like by high officials from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, why don't you go to the Baltic Sea for the day, if you could. They would really advise you to do that. Offices and companies are letting their people off for the day. And there's shops that are like barricading their doors. And the path to what will happen during the summit was made and laid out much beforehand. And the politicians were really busy with trying to calm everyone down. We have a quote here from the Mayor of Hamburg, who compares the G20 summit to the harvest birthday. And I'm to be honest, still baffled that the summit is not over yet and how the discourse is still going on. That's a quote by the Mayor of Hamburg. We're going to show you a short chronology of the week of the summit to stress that starting with Monday, the 3rd of July, there were a couple, 10,000 people in the city on Monday night what happens, it happens what was basically made possible weeks beforehand. There's a legal camp that is taken down by the police and the illegality of the action of the police is then in the aftermath given. So that was sort of a safe space for activists, not far from the convention center. And there were a lot of people on the streets all throughout Hamburg. And it was very much peaceful until the first escalation tactics by the police started on the 5th of July, the so-called alternative summit at the Kampnagel station started. And there was a demo rave on Wednesday. Everything for everyone. There was a title and again, there were 10,000 of people on the streets. And then on Thursday, the 10th, the Welcome to Hell demonstration, sorry, on the 7th of July, there were actions all throughout the city trying to bar passage. And this led to this nice split screen image on Friday. You see all the summit participants listening to Beethoven's 9th symphony in the newly built Elbphilharmonie. And you have also garbage on the streets of St. Pauli. And then on Saturday, the largest demonstration actually 20 with over 80,000 participants. And again, this peaceful protest was harassed by police. So so much for the chronology of this week. And I now want to pass back to Tint. There is no time. Hi. So that was a short introduction. And I'm now going to try to explain what we did. Unlike FCMC, we were going to look at the structures behind this whole spectacle. So we didn't just want to bash those political figures. But we really wanted to take a closer look at this event. We didn't really expect anything great to come out of it. Does anybody know what came out of it? I don't think so. So that was very distant. And for us, it wasn't about looking what's happening in Hamburg at the summit. We wanted to look at the substance. We wanted to really think about this festival of hopelessness. Like what's up with that? Why do people feel so disenfranchised? And Nouriel is going to continue. We started out with a very strong critical thought about the economic situations in which we all live. So for us, we came up with this idea of developing a TV channel in which the official agenda of the G20 should be discussed. And Tint, we can talk about this in three ways. The content first that really focused on this 48-hour live stream. A large part of that was our developed interview format and also some documentary features and other short clips. The place where this took place was where we produced these videos. Most people at Tint lived there for the time of production. And every day there were spectators coming and seeing this live. And the third part is the network. So from the place where we were, we transmitted this into the whole city of Hamburg, into bars, libraries, into public and sort of public institutions. And even and especially into the area around the summit, which of course was where activities and demonstrations were prohibited during the time of the summit. And so we tried to take these narratives from the G20 summit and reinterpret them. And so we invited expert speakers to develop a critical perspective, giving examples and trying to find ways to deal with the situation. So as an example, possibilities of digitalization. So we talked about the widespread digitalization that's happening and logistics. And of course we know about that in the harbor city of Hamburg. And we also discussed that these crucial points of logistics, whether they can be changed or not. All right. So yeah, we're going to talk more about these places. But I'm just going to say something about our group. So this is really different from FCMC, where a lot of people were involved. And for us, it was more about basically a group of friends. It was maybe 15 people in the core group and 50 that really were involved in the whole process. Three quarters of us were women, which is quite interesting. We had like 6000 euros as a budget. And most of us come out of artistic contacts. So just to give you a rough idea. And yeah, we're going to continue talking about the place. So what you can see here is down there in the picture. That's the archipelago. A 50 square meter swimming studio that we put into the area of hammer broke outside of the blue zone that you saw earlier. So a lot was on land, for example, the stage and places for sleeping, kitchen and whatnot. Next picture. What you see here is what we really felt in situ. We really felt, you know, this was a contrast to what was happening in the rest of the city. It was very much idyllic. And it was really a place to calm down. And we only saw the helicopters far away on the horizon. And so the people working there, that was the film crew, camera, sound, live cutting. Next picture, the set team. So studio design, mask lighting, stage managers, infrastructure team and fantastic cooks that provided us all with food. As for all other tasks, we had content that was, you know, the core of it all. And there was an organizational group that was tasked with preparing this content. And, you know, which experts can we invite to talk about this? And we really try to educate ourselves to get on the same level. And this worked really well. And it was a great experience for all of us to make this happen. And so here in this list, you can see all the titles of our, of the official G20 agenda. And so the dumb titles we tried to, you know, reinterpret and use for our means, as I've said earlier. And we've tried to reach out to different groups, to the FCMC, to the Chaos Computer Club, who, to people who really helped us. And our declared goal was not to have this very simplified criticism of the situation in which we live, but to really think about what's going on and to find points where people can focus direction. So systematic criticism and not just, you know, showing pictures and flashy images of some representatives. So we saw ourselves as part of the regular protest, not outside of it. And we just wanted to add something to the protest that was out there on the street. And so we have some examples for that if we continue. That's what our stream looked like in all of the places throughout the city where you could watch it. And yeah, we also had this area for text where we could announce stuff, whatever came into our minds. And then we had this fed by Twitter and other sources, flashing news at the bottom. This is something different, a panel with Bini Adamczak, who did an introduction to the terms work and economy, labor and economy and why that is relevant today. Another panel on the topic of Africa. Did you mention yet that down there? Yeah. All right. Sorry. So one topic at G20 was deepening friendship with Africa. And so we had a historian there. And it was about the colonial past of Germany and Hamburg self image as a gateway to the world. And in this talk, it was also about the genocide the Germans did in the 20th century in Africa with the people. And we wanted to show on what foundation the G20 talked about the deepening partnership with Africa. And so the next picture, we're going to talk a little bit about these kind of receiver points that we built spread out through the whole city. Let's do a little excursion the techniques later. We had on site a car where we had life editing and then who was from the free public channel Tide and we had a coder from the Vok team so that we could generate a signal. So we were like, how are we going to put that on the internet? So we then asked next door at the tire car park, we're apart from G20 and we'd like to put an antenna on your roof. Surprisingly, they were really happy and they were like compliance. We explained a little to them what we were doing, but they were happy and worked with us and it seemed that proved to be a very robust solution from there on out. We went to the server of the CCC or the Vok and from there on the stream was spread out further to YouTube to a website and so on and so forth. And then it went also to the server of infobeamer.com that then helped by giving us their software in an adaptive way that was made for our project. And from there it went to all the different points of our Raspberry Pi in the city that we had set up and it was received the way that we showed you before with the little infos and fields and the talks and the Twitter feed below. And now we're going to talk a little bit about the receiver stations. We're kind of running out of time so very briefly about this. We had 40 places all over Hamburg. In the center it was really easy to find partners that would put up screens in the fringes. It was a bit more difficult because we really had to build up trust and it was a lot of times about understandingly so that people did not want to be regarded while they understood our criticism. I mean they really understood our criticism at the same time. They didn't want to do the step to be part of a political activist and portray themselves as such. Next picture please. All right. There were what you can see with the Tuva era is nothing that we started. It was something that another group started that went out with a little pocket projector and projected it on their own initiatives and places in the city and that obviously made us very happy. The communication with these receiver places, even though I show this in a bit of a negative light, it was also a very essential part of the project to raise these questions and address these questions whether or not you want to portray yourself as political. All right. Let's go quickly on. All right. Very shortly and briefly. I think for all of us this was a very interesting and wonderful experience that these things can be made possible, that you can have an idea and with a lot of persistence you can really get stuff going and the ball rolling and you can see people politicizing and that was a very important and good experience and all of a sudden you have these people with lots of capacities and special knowledge and special technicians and it was all there and I think that was something that we were going for that you can make stuff possible if you just want them. But let's talk about FCMC. All right. Cut. Let's talk about FCMC and Oli you should be smiling. All right. Applause for the smiling person on stage. Okay. So there's a few people that are live here through another channel. So we get these beautiful hints of people not smiling enough on stage. So FCMC is they have this it was born out of this mood that we were talking about earlier. There was the sneaking suspicion that there would be a very one-sided media coverage and there was a general criticism on the G20 summit that which is why in beginning of February 2017 we decided that we wanted to have an independent international media center and wanted to give a space and became more concrete that turned into FCMC and that then was located in the stadium of the Soccer Club FC Seng Paoli. We asked ourselves how can we make it possible under the circumstances of a big state event to give pluralistic media coverage. So FCMC was supposed to be part of a piece of the protest as well with the overall goal to show and cover the G20 summit but also the protests and the surrounding protests and do that in a differentiated manner. It was supposed to be a media experiment. We really saw this as an experiment. And we never intended to have something concrete or an idea that was to be fulfilled. It was really about how can a media activist practice look like. So as a project this was to be a very diverse and you can see that in the FC generator up there is a lot of names and different names showing up how you can interpret the FCMC. So all of this was obviously not born out of the blue but it was initiated out of a network a concrete network that is very local. It's a very Hamburg based network but above all and that was very important was carried on internationally. Some of them locally got together but also were spread out. In the beginning there was a small group with different backgrounds to like name this. There's no time for that. I'm sorry. But we had the immense of luck that we found a perfect space for this mad big project and that was the stadium of FC Sankt Paoli and the contact to them. That came out of a lot of work that was done in the district from a lot of people from the network and also from people representatives of the soccer club. And so there was a lot of trust from the side of the football club towards us and they really wanted to support our idea and project. So on the first of May we finalized our contracts and then there was finally a concrete legal ground for there was a first press release that then came out on the 14th of May that announced that coalition and all in all this project there was driven by a lot of groups and small companies that come from the district Sankt Paoli and it was supported in experience time and they really there was one company that gave 9,000 portions of food and we have a short clip that we want to show you. We also worked together with mainstream media this is one of the examples network, computer boards, keyboards, monitors, places of work. These are the comparisons between the G20 official offices and the alternative one in the stadium of Sankt Paoli. The official one is done by the official press office of the German government, 4,800 journalists from 65 countries who are organized from representatives of 700 media. Every journalist that can be proved that they are journalists that has an official paper that they are supposed to publish on the report they have to have a journalistic background and then they can accredited for the official bureau. For the ones who do not fit those means there is the independent media center, FCMC, a little bit improvised based on donations with lots of with technical support from the chaos computer club around 400 accredited from roughly two dozen countries by the voluntary run organizers. Those are freelancers, those are people that are in on editing boards, that's TV, print, radio, everybody's there. I mean there's also a lot of media activists who are doing blogging and social media. It's mainly G20 critical people from the left spectrum that find work space. There's going to be live space, there's going to be press conferences and discussion rounds that is being hosted by the cult, almost cult like soccer club and the soccer club thinks it's really important to have an alternative media coverage. It's very helpful when talking about G20 summit to show more facets and different lights and it's I think there's a lot of different aspects that are going to happen content-based wise also that should be looked at from different sides. The first press conference tonight not everything was running smoothly but it's also the first alternative press center as part of the G20 history and a symbol of how it separates the city into two sides. I mean there's a few theses in this little clip but that's maybe something for another talk. There was a lot that was raised in this talk and we really had an invitation to give people and I mean it was also kind of we wanted a critical journalism. We wanted to give a critical questioning of journalism a platform so we came up with this idea reinventing critical journalism and times of effective populism and this is to this day the unresolved research questions for this project. We never had the goal to in any way shape or form really fulfill this ideal but we obviously did a lot in the framework of this at least that's what we hope. I mean we also send out an open invitation and open accreditation to with very few critical aspects that you're not allowed to do like being part of the police or a secret service or such things as that then you could not become accredited with us but other than that we were really open. You only needed an email address with reference to the media or background that you have. We really tried to keep it as low level as possible and target it towards media activists as well as professional journalists with press cards and press IDs and everybody was welcome really. We wanted to really work against the becoming more and more precarial working circumstances that journalists find themselves in so we didn't have any money that was needed to be put in. There was no we just gave work spaces and a press ID wasn't necessary in order to become accredited and you could even sign up on grounds through this form that you saw beforehand you could we could see who got accredited and then who then actually showed up on site we had a few numbers we had about 1143 people who did wanted to get accredited and then 978 people actually checked in so accreditation was also the sign up and it was also how people were split up by the different skills for the media center but also different tasks and works so we had 493 people checked in for the crew. Just a quick overview that we're not going to go through oh can I can I quickly you can see it's a bit like the angel system that we used for the accreditation here and wanted to use that for the different shifts but the shifts for congress are very different so a lot of stuff that we planned we had to change on site and we couldn't execute everything that we wanted to do the way that we wanted to do and we had to do that very short notice so if you do things like that a lot of people that help are a lot better absolutely a very essential piece in building this was collective processes in the context of the center there was self organizing professional but not commercial I think that was really what's important it was all based on donation but also low level like low in entry levels for example for the different what a very open editing concept and idea yeah and we had of course so we also had a lot of discussions in the beginning about all these processes and we're going to give an example later but even during this experiment we had different forms and ways of communicating that we thought of and so yeah we're gonna give an example for that here you can see one of the main elements the daily press conferences held on the south side of the stadium again a brief summary it was a week of really hard work there were helicopters everywhere so yeah don't mention the sound quality it was the noise stayed with us constantly and so we were very happy to have this sort of refugium space and in our immediate neighborhood there are some other projects so the catering anti-fuck cooking for the people who came to the demonstrations and participated soccer matches and throughout all this we really stayed within the stadium for 24 seven without having to talk to any sort of janitor so that was really due to the mutual respect and trust with the soccer club and our good very good work leading up to the summit so this is a brief overview on the map you see the different spaces the journal space and the social space next to it i'm going to talk about that a bit more so we really try to invite a lot of people to this so we tried to using the german press agencies mailing this to invite people and get people from different backgrounds to come lawyers representatives of the demonstrations and political activists and so they could talk about the daily news or even about the stuff that was talked about at the camp nagel so about long-term goals and we really try to have lots of different commentaries given here it was done every morning at nine o'clock translated simultaneously and in cooperation with the ccc wok sent to the internet as a live stream the social space wasn't uh we didn't put as much work into this as the tint so this is a regular room um recreational room of the fc sank pauli we didn't want to have any pictures taken within the fc mc we had the stage for that but um inside we wanted it to be very much quiet we didn't want any home stories about this project and all of these inquiries were done uh outside on the stage or somewhere else in interviews so this was a recreational room to calm down to rest and there was also a bar and so the main workstations uh those were the studios where you could create and edit journalistic pieces and we entered this room on sunday and stayed for seven days and there was like no trial at all no trial period and so it was very interesting to see how this collaborative situation uh developed itself how people came in with certain interests and that brings us to the next slide uh plan there was a original original idea for um decision making and uh production production structure so this worked on some levels but not on others and the important thing for us what was um some words on the press codex we to uh keep within the bounds of the law we had to have some structure to not violate any privacy rights uh any uh journalism laws and so yeah i can show this on my laptop but not up there so on the right you see this uh cvd there was a structure for people to hand in material they filmed on the street and then have other people uh edit that and for me there was quite an interesting process because this really you know questions the terms of authorship and really creates a huge pool of material um that really led to very heterogeneous results uh i just wanted to point out we're you know we don't have any time whatsoever so very short we really broke this down uh into everyone can read and write everywhere no right distribution whatsoever and the way we handled we entered on sunday and then tuesday at six p.m the first press release went out and it worked all right um technical side of things uh acceptance station for media what i talked about um so you know we deleted the uh chewed data metadata from the photos um we had 10 work spaces for cutting two studios um this open broadcasted software an interesting live direction tool where people really learned to use it and use it well within a very short period of time and so this really you know went straight through the roof uh on sunday um because really the first press conference on tuesday after two days that's amazing and then we also had this uh radio studio working with us um this was available for uh everyone uh people could bring in their own uh yeah guests for interviews uh we had technical assistance provided some of photos so the fcmc um some numbers it cost us 50 000 euros uh which were covered by uh donations and so thank you to everyone who participated in that applause for that so all of this is still um available online except for uh our temporary tweets we're going to talk about what sort of applications we use to um spread our material there was a youtube channel uh everything we produce is still on media.ccc.de over 70 videos produced during those six days the archive on youtube is still up as well we also had this video um stream maybe similar to uh what tint did um to have this show locally on browsers in various places in hamburg what we also want to mention is krasvots tv grassroot tv another organization from hamburg yeah so this is youtube you all know this and now we're just going to show some material that was um produced at fcmc focus point hamburg very welcome to the fifth press conference servus hello a little bit louder hi hi we're live at fcmc and now we're watching part of the protesters the media center works as a platform for independent media coverage on g20 summit until sunday we have crazy days ahead of us and we are want everyone to take on their professional job responsibly uh question question and do not buy into the yellow press kind of headlines the reason that i'm participating is the alternative summit of the people at the time of the g20 is because we are living in a very divided very fragmented very brutalized world and we're a world where just one thinking of neoliberalism is dominating all country's policies we need to think alternatives that protect the planet and that protect the livelihoods and lives and freedoms of people and we need more solidarity hi fellows i'm sorry i don't speak german but he does africa for us africans is in africa we find a lot all the material all the premier materials for development we're now listening to music from the protests we're living we're experiencing at the moment an attack on democracy on the liberal democracy yesterday we had the problem that six colleagues known to us were not given the accreditation from the official press offices and or they got taken away from them uh without any sense uh arbitrarily arbitrarily all right let's look at the first photo it's basically like civil war that are being produced by the people who are in the state power and not the ones who are standing out peacefully we're here because they're killing us so our messages to come together to make solidarity okay we come from paris we're two journalists and we're watching the police storming the chance the chaos people that you can see here have covered their faces have weaponized themselves that are not passive we do need uh the state of emergency is what what we need is the guarantee for gathering available gathering and what that's what we're fighting for we are trying to talk to the police and asking them to take a step back from escalation and escalating the scenario and it really fears us that there's a couple of the anti-g20 protesters that are attacking small shops and that are setting fires on cars that are people are living here and the people that are living here are on their side of the protesters and we're with you and you need to take a step back and we're upset and angry for the cuts on civil rights that we're experiencing from the sides of the politicians who just want to show and we need to she's reading something that is really hard to translate because everything is going on very quickly all right helmet can you explain to them why we didn't have another choice after waiting for a long time and then storming onto the shoulder with weapons shoulder that is located in the stern chance uh i'm sorry you have to really forgive the kind of blurry lines uh because this is like a heat detector can you see them assume lighting a mullet of cocktail and he's throwing it to the uh this is like a life-threatening attack on the people who are being put on site do you have any more questions all right big applause for the video clip that we just saw i hope you guys forgive me any kind of inconsistencies that might have happened because there was a lot of quick quotes we did our best up here all right okay we got another five minutes and we thought we'd give like a 15 minutes for questions but um announcing if you want to come up to us and talk to us we're we're going to be outside of the hall just after the talk and available for you guys to talk to and we have time um i would like to do a final round and have to uh talk about uh the um showcase of modern police work that we started it was talked about in the beginning i mean you might have had of uh for weeks now we have the public um search for still for trying to track down people who um should be on the wanted list of the police of vandalizing during g20 and at the moment uh there's a lot of offence towards personal rights that obvious at least are being mirrored by the media coverage uh you might have uh seen the title of zutat saitung or have it in your background that g20 is not a free pass for breaking the law where you have the feeling that the colleague riba prente is one of the few people that upholds the press codex and it's obviously something that's still very viral it's not known to me that to this extent we ever had police braving showing off with working with uh software and automated understanding and video footage of of trying to understand how specific people moved during g20 to then afterwards prosecute them so the showcase of modern police work is something that we really need to watch i don't really know i'm just going to pass on the microphone because we really are running out of time i just quickly wanted to uh underline that we obviously are not up here together without reasons it's obviously important to announce like a collaborator in these things to to create bounds i mean we create assemblies we combine skills we read together and that's how we get further ahead and the circumstances are not being set in stone and this is what we want to pass on to you that we didn't just do a project and you can also do this there's a plus from the audience for that okay all right you can do this as well if when you have the ccc and the vock on your side for example yeah really uh to summarize and to and we have our final resolution and you can see it on the fcmc.tv where we want to uh show that g20 in Buenos Aires is just up ahead and to inspire people and if maybe you're thinking about it maybe somebody's here like come come up to us talk to us we we really want to be part of this in spanish english and german our resolution is up on the page one more thing not just in our own idea before the talk there was one person that came up to me that asked that tomorrow at three at the rocket there is supposed to be a picture taken for imprisoned people from the g20 summit i don't know more about this but i wanted to pass it on i have another thing another call that i want to send out there on saturday we were in the disposition to try to record our own live stream so if anybody's got this on video the live stream of the fcmc we would really like to have this thank you oh a plus from the audience do we still have time for a question or two um i think i'm afraid we're out of time uh anybody can give me a show of hand uh according to my watch we're out of time i really want to ask for a big round of applause for this great talk uh there's lots of applause going on right now