 Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official Mr. Mako, what's going on? None of my dad walk on Man, Boss Talk 101 in the building, you know what I'm saying, we back man You know what I'm saying, like we never left man, it's crazy how things be coming together You know God is good, I have to start off saying that man Every time we get into a show, we gotta let you know that God is good, no he's great You know what I'm saying man, check it man, we got a guy here today really don't need no introduction man I done seen him in a few videos, so he can rap, so we gonna figure it out today You know what I'm saying, I put niggas on the spot on Boss Talk 101 man, Jose Bodeca is in the building man What's going on man? Man, I can't call it Say man, you finally made it man, you made this the big league right here Yes sir We little league but we big league at the same time It's a mindset, it's a mindset No man, I just, I love the hustle man Off the show Appreciate you for coming on the show man I've been researching and checking you know what I'm saying, trying to see the projects and everything But the first thing I want to get into, you know I like to go back into the back story right That's how we do it man, so growing up, Bodeca, Jose Bodeca Being in, he was out of Highland Hills Right So how did you, how did you grow up, did you grow up, did you have a silver spoon in your mouth? Was you the only child niggas, you the only child You the only child Did you have your mom and dad there? I got three little sisters now, I got three little sisters, I'm the oldest child And you're the only boy Yeah, I'm the only boy Wow, protective I'ma let you make it then if you have I got five sisters Yeah, yeah, I'ma let you make it niggas First Yeah Well you have to be strong, there you go You don't pull a good purple line though Yeah, yeah, yeah No, no, if he has five sisters, I mean he's a ladies man Oh no, he real emotional, no, don't play me niggas You know how they treat a lady You know, hey Yeah, yeah, yeah, emotional, like, you know, emotional I ain't gonna say emotional, I say, you know, every woman is different I had a nigga that was gonna be, I was gonna be, I was gonna really be like a low D's I was gonna be, you remember I was gonna get me a rapper, nigga And I got one, but he was like, damn me He emotional, man, like, every time we do something to be like this, that, I'm like, nah, I can't do it See, look, when you're the oldest, you don't really get too many emotions You just get all the problems Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah You gotta be strong Ready to fix it Yeah You gotta hear all them female problems, they come to you for everything Still to this day Really? Still to this day Oh, yeah, I love all my babies Yeah, that's dope For real Imagine how they probably fend off all the ladies who come at you Ah, man, they, a lot of times, they was younger, so They was trying to see what they can get out of them too Yeah, yeah, no, that's dope Yeah, my auntie one time, I'm glad you said that My auntie did that one time She, I had started talking to this girl about what I'm gonna be with her You know what I'm saying? And I come home one day and the lady at my house, she done bought groceries and everything, nigga My auntie said, yeah, my nephew, he, yeah, y'all gonna be together, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I know She done worked the whole, about $150 about it Yeah Man, shout out to Aneese, man, she a real one, man She the reason I sit here today, you know what I'm saying? She the reason I'm here, bro If it weren't for her, I wouldn't be sitting here looking at y'all, man Some stuff went down that were heavy in my life And it was because of her, man And I shout it to the day that I die, you know what I'm saying? If it weren't for her, I wouldn't even be here I'd be somewhere way away, y'all be like, damn, man, that nigga, that's still gone See, they'll be the people, they'll be the people that we look back on And we always cherish that, you know what I'm saying? Man, I would play by Aneese, that would get you in trouble Yeah, for real I go down through there So did you have both your mom and dad in your life? Well, nah, my dad lived in Houston, you know And I had my mom and my grandmother, you know My dad was in the army Okay And you know, I'ma just say this I didn't say this at first when I was younger I used to be like, he left her But as you grow up, you understand, like, why men lead women So, you know, it just didn't work out That's all I'm gonna say How old was you then? He ain't... He left her when I was two weeks Wow But he left to go to the army? Nah, he left to go on and on and on Whenever he laid his hat was his home Is he still living? Oh, yeah, man, he actually married He got married after he left her That's what I said, my mama was a handful So you'll just have to know her to understand Do you have a relationship with him? Yeah I actually just came from seeing him Okay, that's good My granny always said that no matter Like what goes on with your parents They're still your parents Yeah So you gotta love them anyway That's why I just love grannies When mamas be trippin' or daddies be trippin' Grannies will hold it all together Oh, yeah, she'd equalize Yeah, man You know, my grandma Yeah, shout out to Annie V. Wallace, man She used to feed a nigga off the citizen bus With that check coming in, that brown envelope, baby Well, nothing like it, man I mean, she's the only one coming up with a little money My mama and them, they wasn't doing right, man But my granny, man, she was gonna come up with some You know, some groceries, some apples Yeah, a nigga, some bananas That seemed like a gold, man You know, candy was cool But man, that apple and banana gets you through You know what I'm saying? My granny, she was more so like a stew maker Like she made beef stews And a vegetable stew Last all week Yeah, y'all had to eat it all week Stew But it'd be good on that Saturday When that thing's set, aw, man Did you get a recipe so you can cook it yourself? Nah I said what we said nigga had, I'm a whole group of They'll try to show it enough to go over there Can't nobody do it like grandma She said that about granny Nobody, they can do it They can't do it like her But they tried They can do their own little Everybody got their own signature dish But grandma, she just handles it She good to hot water cornbread Oh, yeah, oh, yeah That's all the cornbread she makes She didn't believe it I know when you can cook, nigga Hot water cornbread Yeah, yeah, yeah You got that on a meal You can't cook unless you cook some hot water cornbread Shout out to the people who cookin' that hot water cornbread On the side, baby That's the only downside, man They try to put them on to it up close Yeah, yeah, yeah So when did you discover that you like to rap That you love the music Are we going into the rap? I just want to know what age I want to know what age he started Well, we always, you know We went into them stages Where we was coming up on, like, the battle rap So we liked to listen to, like, the battle rap Like, like, Cassidy Like, I remember Cassidy and Freeway Went at it probably, like, three, four times You know what I'm saying? I liked it to meet meals with the braids To the back, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, before we met a little Snoop Zero, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, I know what you're talkin' about Nigga, they had nothin' I met the nigga at the casino Nigga still ain't like he had them braids A little bit in me Nah, for the show, yeah Nah, I'll shout out my boy, me here A real cat man Been around him a couple times Yeah, yeah, it's dope, right? Yeah, for sure I didn't really mess with him I ain't gonna lie to you He was at the casino We were gambling a little bit But it really was his manager Man, I got a thing about the manager I know if I get cool with the manager I'll understand what's going on With the whole movement You know what I'm saying? For sure So that was before Bostock But I always was rockin' out Yeah, I always been a part of it Yeah, yeah, I'm fine I was goin' on in this show No, for sure We were through Philly I'm like, yeah, work here If it ain't hard, nah All them niggas be at the top No, for sure, yeah Hey, man, you gotta have You gotta know what's goin' on You gotta see it for yourself So I like that Yeah, yeah, yeah You go to the hood when you go out of town Oh, yeah, man I go straight to the hood That's what a good food is Man, for sure One thing, I'ma know where the food is Yeah, for sure Y'all probably gonna go to that fight Y'all go to that fight up there I talk about that He's a food finder Oh, yeah I'ma tell you Go to Eminem's on the strip That's a black-owned business, man Eminem's like the candy Right Eminem's soul food I'm gonna have to check him out Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna I'll be up there But we'll be up there before y'all Uh-oh Oh, yeah, man In a little bit I'ma be doin' this little uh It's gonna be like a little podcast Why, uh What? Yeah, why I'm doin' I'm talkin' about the food Yeah, talkin' about the food in the deep You goin' have the food on there? Oh, yeah, man It's gonna be kinda takin' you down through there Yeah Okay, so if you talkin' about food in the deep Where would you recommend would be the best food that you've ever had in Dallas? I mean, I gotta go with home You know, best food I ever had came out with my granny kids Okay, other than your granny kids I mean, it just depends on the day You know What's your favorite kind of food? Me, I like like like pastas and stuff like that And it's a place It's a couple of places that I actually go to It's a place called The Freeman Right across from Twisty Ruber Okay, I know what that is They got a pretty good Cajun Creole pasta that I like So for me who loves seafood Where would you recommend? It's a place called Crazy Crab and Grand Perry 360 They got good crab legs and stuff like that I don't eat crab legs You gotta know where to go A lot of people right now are talkin' about crab legs and crawfish and stuff like that because it's a season But I'm talkin' about more like your catfish or maybe your red snapper or the catfish Stuff like that It's a place from the island Yeah, it's a place called S&J's on Lancaster Road It's pretty good Yeah, they gonna put that season in on you for sure You don't taste that damn home S&J So you gotta remember that S&J for that catfish We goin' over there Yeah, it's comin' like it can't hot out the grease Okay, now don't be playin' cause we got dope bellies over here in 20 We can do a cook-off, nigga I'll bring a plate you bring a plate You know what I'm sayin'? I'm the baddest, man I'm talkin' about you go over to your spot when you get it I'm gonna go to my spot and I'm gonna bring the plate together If we meet right here, nigga and we gon' see it Do that tasting test No, we do that tasting test where you won't know where it's from you just have them in place But we would know and you taste it first and you name which one is the best What you tellin', I'm bad I'm bad You gon' know I'm bad I'm bad I can tell, nigga I don't know how to play, nigga He love to taste the food People call, they come in Dallas and call me like, hey, man where we need to go eat it? Really? You know So Yeah, yeah, yeah You got it How do you find these places, though? I be all over the internet See me, I go deep I read the comments I wanna hear the reviews You know what I'm sayin'? Then I try that myself Yeah, I look at stuff like that Especially pictures You know how sometimes they post those really good pictures Yeah, it looks really good Yeah, it looks really good They'll fool you But after the pictures I look down the comments And I'm not just people saying I'm going to go But when they went how was it and what they at and stuff like that The baddest soul food place in Dallas right now is called Taste the Ways Look it up on Instagram Taste the Ways Where is that? It's right there on Keys They actually relocating The baddest soul food in the D Okay, I'm gonna put that in my phone Taste the Ways catering Yes, ma'am Yeah, it's bad Mm-hmm It's bad Okay How far is the furthest you've ever driven in, I want to say in Dallas but in Texas to get good food Oh I actually drove to Houston to eat I'm taking you to the country I'm gonna show you something You're playing with me, man Don't play with me, man And how true is this thing that the best food is found in the little hole in the wall places Taste the Ways is one of those little that should have a big restaurant but it's in a little place and I'm telling you We're gonna be your first guests when we do that parking Yeah, for sure For sure For sure, it's gonna be bad I'm telling you Do you know what I found out about the hole in the walls, though when they expand to make bigger for some reason It don't taste the same It don't taste the same That grill got to be It changes That comes from the people that you hire not having the same love for what you do is what you do You can't duplicate it because they can't be you They can't love it They can't love it because it ain't they true love it ain't they dream I've seen that happen already and I'm like No, I can't go over there anymore Yeah I don't It's a couple places that didn't got like that But like I said the people that really love what they do they're gonna make sure that everything is up to par with their food because this is what they love to do You know what I mean Let's go back to let's go back to you growing up Right Right When you grew up you was like Yeah you was a stomp down you from you from Highland Hills but you might not always been in Highland Hill was you always in Highland Hill Well starting out I lived I lived actually in a couple different neighborhoods Yeah, yeah, cause mama didn't be tripping Yeah No, I did I did too I stayed in East Dallas Projects Okay Shout out to East Dallas Project Shout out to East Dallas Project I stayed in Oak Cliff on like Woodtown Okay Shout out to Charleston Village is going down you know what I'm saying Yeah, so what do you think is the just the most influential place that you stayed? The most influential place Growing up I'm talking about that little place growing up It would have to be it would have to be I would say a little of Highland Hills and a little of Woodtown because in Woodtown like we was more so out the house like running around Highland Hills was like the home ground like where we always came back to Was Grandma at the Highland Hill? Yeah, in my pop hall Yeah, remember before he passed Yeah I'll be in my pop hall I'll be in the pop hall man Yeah, we like I said I learned a lot staying everywhere I stayed but I was always cool like I used to crack jokes scorn Yeah, yeah That's me You see how he cut up He was having a good time No, for sure we got to have a good time so I grew a lot of love and got a lot of love in all those neighborhoods You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah So I even stayed in the suburbs like Lancaster Yeah, yeah, yeah Round about like 2000, what was that? 2005 Okay 2004 He's a young buck He was like 20 Young buck I think I was like who was going into like the 4th, 5th grade No, I was like 6th and 7th grade summer Okay And I was like 12 going on 13 Yeah And you know it was that year that everybody got Section 8 Yeah, come on, man You know what I'm saying? Yeah, government teasing everything, man We were saying before then we were saying Wheeling Terrace Projects The Terror Dome That's what they called the older heads That's what they called the Wheeling Terrace Apartment Yeah, I know what it is We had moved to Lancaster We had got a house and I never get it because we were like yeah It's up We were trying to get off the floor You know what I'm saying? We set up on the floor so kind of find out so it was only we had to go to the floor but it was all good I was just talking to a guy earlier today he got a son called Hard Living Rowe and he said three families in the house I'm like that's the way we were too Not for real It was like we didn't have a lot growing up and that's a lot of our stories they reflect each other You know what I'm saying? So that's dope, man That's how you know it be real Yeah, so are we going to get into the musical a little more now? Yes Okay, I'm going to let you know what I'm saying? Because she like talk about that food You know what I'm saying? But who inspired you to do that music? I'm going to be honest like I done did comedy You know what I'm saying? You did comedy? Are you good? Oh yeah I'm pretty good I don't say that, man I'm pretty good One thing about me I'm a hustler So like I said You actually wrote it out Yeah Comedy What did you perform? I performed at this place called Tavern Tavern Hall I think that's Uptown Did they boo you off the stage? No, no I was a headliner No My first I promised to God on my daughter's on my daughter's life shout out my little girl I'm going to let you know Shout it out My first gig I was the headliner of the show First time ever performing on stage That's fabulous God to give you favor This is me now Tell me a joke Aw, hell He don't got nothing for you No, because if You gotta learn You gotta be standing up and you gotta See, that was like That was probably like two and a half years ago So the last actual script I wrote that it been a long time How long would you do that for? I done that for probably about a good year You wanted to give it a try Yeah So why didn't you keep it up? Just for when coming from when we come from like it's hard to be labeled a funny guy Yeah It's hard to be labeled a funny guy Yeah, and I I didn't really want my legacy to be known for me being funny I want that to be something more so that people around me that be around me every day they just vibe like we gone hot side we gone shoot the shit and so what really like persuaded me to do music was actually my people like they used to always tell me like bro you been rapping all these years and shout out yellow beads that's my brother How about get into that? We always be together before I actually rap I was always his right hand man like right on the side of every show like blood we family so you know I always wanted to be there for him and my people used to be like bro you can rap you you mean all these people Yeah you build relationships and you just sitting around not doing nothing like trying to do some music and I seen the money that was coming to bro from music she one years old you know and I was just like man I'm trying to take her and my family this street she beautiful I saw her picture I appreciate it so I seen the build up with yellow but you and yellow y'all went to school together right oh yeah how was you when you met yellow we were about 16, 17 16, 17 like sophomore going in the junior yeah I see him on there with Earl Spenson Thomas I see him with Thomas a lot me and Thomas I met Thomas and his son like T but when I see him he always try to go in you talking about you crack jokes but he always they always got something going yeah yeah they got someone they got beat in basketball somebody done got I mean Thomas be the lightning I don't know if Thomas lying or what really cause Thomas act like he went in a lot of damn basketball games nah shout out my bro Thomas Thomas got something he got something yeah so you be like look at the camera I'll be like y'all he melding again y'all this ass I'm trying to sell a dollar so I what I what I was thinking about I said man you know them guys look like they're having a lot of fun you know what I mean that's a lot of what they be with us like yeah oh we we're from the streets but we ain't walking around with a friend they said I don't do number make you old you know what I mean but when I met y'all I told him this the other night when I when I was out with him I said man I first met you it was that big T right but he was respectful as hell I guess I'm old so nigga looking like this old nigga I like your work I like what you're doing and he was like yeah thank you man real respectful then my cousin confirmed it cause he don't know it then my cousin the one I was just telling them to root me let me just be over his house he had Zeke TV just so happened yellow went by Bruin and he was in there and we was on this show we just talked about that a while back and he was like he was like man yellow did my he did my shout out he was kind of you know tripped and didn't do it right and I said you know what I had the same experience with the little niggas you know I'm talking that big boy talk I had the same experience with the little niggas little niggas must be respectful you know them the two times I'd have heard stories about him but it seems to be that way with him and I know you know so when y'all started out I know you roughed him up a little bit on you know exercise your right on the capping you know what I'm saying he actually gave me a run and it was funny because at that time at my school there wasn't nobody fucking with me oh so you cap hard yeah I would cap king like I would put you down I would put you down but it was all fun and jokes you know there was nothing to hurt nobody feelings but it used to be so little yeah he got a little that's why I come to rap like this the niggas got a sound you know every niggas from G's all them niggas sound any of them niggas where it's offset from everybody that's where the niggas win it I'm checking them out it's not only them it's certain even Devin the dude you go back to the older this that squeak it's a squeak it's a different sound ain't it so what when you heard you said niggas squeak and niggas what you tell it it was he used to always wear the glass oh okay before we could afford the real he had to fake him sound you know this is what it is though so you punched the niggas I hear them with a good one but one prepared for him to be so loud and funny so it fucked the whole class up because they was like damn he didn't get it back he was roasting me okay so ever since the end that's been my boy I was like what the hell I ain't been a battle with you everyday yeah yeah yeah but do y'all you still get my run for money yeah yeah we outside everyday everyday that's what yeah the thing yeah he saved on tune into the channel I know if I bring enough of you niggas over here you gonna watch your whole damn family over here now what niggas no and Erica banks on the way niggas let's go no chance no chance yeah I think I think that's where we win that man is that we we show love to the city man you know I tell y'all with all the violence everything going somebody had to step up and play and say let's bridge the gap you know what I'm saying let's build some bridges you know what I'm saying the niggas the old niggas come through you know what I'm saying with the wisdom with the wisdom but it takes that man with the wisdom it gotta be some love it gotta be some love in the city man so you know that's the whole game with me I think that's why God put me in here you know what I'm saying me and my wife and my family you know what I'm saying how you feeling on the show yeah talk about it yeah that's a beautiful thing you know what I'm saying the whole family set up all day yeah I seen you and the baby girl I see it I say okay now is she gonna be on the pocket put her on the put her somewhere I got to once she get more comfortable with me being able to just do other things cause when I'm with her cause she requires all your attention yeah she don't want nothing but all my attention that's dope that's dope do you want more and niggas scared of baby mama you don't want no drama yeah that's cause I don't cause me and her ain't together right now I don't want to be together at some point I might bump my head enough to get myself together I think that's where our women sometimes they give up on us too easy they'll leave they ain't got time yeah I'm done with this that niggas suck and their grandma tell them the same thing leave that niggas girl you ain't worth a damn you know it'd be like that and we got to do better man you know you gotta realize man she'll help me so at the end of the day for sure usually my cousin told me he say man I left my wife he say but you know he married somebody else but at the time he said I could have made it work man but I chose to move on see what it be is we be too stubborn to actually put that take that extra step to be like well let's sit down and talk about it man be so they be so sometimes it's deeper than that ain't it yeah it could be way better it could a lot of situations could be avoided with just a little conversation conversation that's so real but the reason why I asked you and the reason why I ask you if you wanted more was the main fact that since you give her all the attention you know little girls be like I don't want no other brother she's not ready for that right now probably be when she like four yeah cause she feel like she gonna how to share you cause she don't even have six nieces and nephews three boys and three girls the last two are twins mmhmm and they was born two weeks apart so my little girl was born and then two weeks later the twins was born so they right there by each other whenever she has a lot of playmates oh yeah whenever and she got six nieces I mean six cousins on her mama's side too oh wow so she was born into a big family yeah so she ain't really gotta worry about nothing let me ask you something let's get to the label the GRC thing well I see you I see you with the GRC I see you down there to get rich content yeah what's up with that talk to me I'm gonna tell you something I think I tapped into a little bit of something about some apparel nigga ain't brought us no shirt or nothing I don't know no wait a minute no wait a minute no no bruh you come over here it's my fault let me tell you something man shout out to P what is the name putting God first PGL's man he brought us shirts he came yeah man you know what I should have made sure like you like you came prepared I should have been more prepared next time I promise you I got you but anywhere you go listen to me y'all too dope to not do it bruh y'all should be moving different I'm being real I'll be watching man like when you come to something like this y'all need to be making them moments because the visuals are so important now for real and it don't take much y'all niggas got money too y'all niggas a trip man y'all niggas a trip man so you know you gotta get your camera guy we're a team so everybody got their own parts like shout out my brother you know what I'm saying Fat Porter over the closing part of the GRC he actually had some like business stuff that he had to take care of the work he couldn't come like he normally be here and he would have had it ready you see that's the thing about us we're a team like everybody got their part like right now I'm just the front face of you know what I'm saying everything will come out more we actually have more rappers we got the closing like we got pretty in pay for the women that's dope man so like I said it's a lot of positive stuff we do throughout all the negative the negative look that they put out of us well I did today we fading that right now we don't show love we fading that that's the whole game about us we gonna fade everything and make it to work or if you ever need some help we've been here 15 years we know about clothes yeah I've been doing this so and then you see the work that's the work man so anytime if you have any questions or anything any leads anything you need say hey E-Man what you think about this or what we need to do or how I need to develop this brand or how can I get it in the different states right now I got so many partners in different states with stores and I talked to them for years but I had this relationship over 15 years 16, 17 years and like a cloud helped me out with this in Rhode Island I can call the purple carpet in Miami or I can call the Jesus in Atlanta and get these clothes to get these shirts out here yeah that's the good thing about it we all help each other correct right when everybody got the same goal for us just making a deep look better you know I'm saying that that's a blessing shout out to Carl Canoc I appreciate that I can pick your phone up and call him right now you don't make me cap on you It's money. I swear I seen a person get rich off of selling fruit. Yeah, definitely. You can get rich in a way. We had a million dollar deal off of selling fruit, remember that? She was like, I made a million dollars this year and I'm about, I'm gonna tell you something. I'll give you some game on some. We opened up along, we done had seven stores, man. And the thing you gotta realize is people watch your movement. Right. People watch how you move. So the lady used to go to the beauty salon, a white lady. And she seen me and shout out to this when I was having Pooka there and Pooka Leroy there with his studio over there, I was trying to help. I helped, bro. So at the end of the day, it was like we was rocking out with them. But she seen me at the Walmart and she was like, ee, hi Stephanie, that's my wife name. I was like, she going good? Y'all still got the store? I said, yeah, we've been over there for 15, well at that time probably about 13 years. No, hell no, about 11 years. So it was like, okay. She was like, well, we going out of town, me and my husband for six months. And I can show you where we made a million dollars cash if y'all could want to take over our business until we come back. I'm just showing you how business is. When you do good business, people want to do business with you. They see your longevity, so they be like they respect it. You know what I mean? So if you don't lie to people, if you straight up about what you say, strong about what your word is, you could change the world, brother. I don't have people to call me with million dollar deals about buying buildings because they knew I was interested in real estate. I just didn't want to go in the partnership. Because I kept my word for many, many years. No, for sure. Does that make sense? Yeah, it's solid to tell you. Sometime you got to be able to be true with yourself. Like stand on what you believe, like for as no matter what it is. You know what I'm saying? That's why I try to tell the little young cats that come around the shop, like when you don't never supposed to just look at your situation or how you raised up or what you got on your plate right now, you don't look at that as your future or what you got to look forward to in life. Like you can change your situation by being for one attentive, you know what I'm saying? I don't sound like, we trained in the young cats that be around there. No, I like that. And you know what I'm saying? We teach them to pick up guns, we teach them to finish school and get some money. No, that's good. Because they need that positivity and especially they already look up to you. Right, right. They're gonna take that and implement it in their life. No, for real. If just anybody try to tell them that, like their dad or anybody, a lot of times they don't ever listen. Yeah. But when you talking about your clothing line, where can they find that if someone wanted to? It's a gear rich clothing on IG and it's called Pretty and Paid. Okay. That's also on IG. So there's a website that they can find it on? No, just IG, because you can sell them on IG and everything. You really set it up, right? You can do it all on IG. Yeah, yeah, you can do it all on IG. We actually getting ready to open. We working towards the store. Oh, you got it. Yeah. It's just a whole storyline to the gear rich thing. It's just like Noah's Ark. You know how it was two of everything on the boat. Right. And basically how he doing a book too for the kids. He gonna do a gear rich book, because gear, like... I wanna meet him. Oh yeah, you gotta meet him, man. Like I said, Fairport, he a very intelligent guy. I wanna talk to him. Like I said, we a whole team. We gonna... And it's all the information about getting rich for the kids is that what it is. Because we like to listen to, we had our kids listen to Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Rich Dad, Poor Dad, you have to train your kids of how to manage money and how to think about it. Yeah, because like you say, everything is a mindset first. That's right. Anything in life, like before they was millionaires, they thought about being a millionaire. They put it in their mind that they wanted to do. And work ethic is everything. That's exactly right. I don't have the best work ethic. You don't, let's get into that. No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm just kidding. You're amazing. Why do you think you don't have, why do you procrastinate? I mean because, Jose Bodego, you procrastinate too damn long. No, we don't know if it's that. It could be something else. It could be something else. All right, let's talk about it. That's what I'm trying to put it out there. I gotta make the decisions for everybody, you know. So like what I do is, yeah, what I do is important for all of us. Like because they all looking for me to get us over the hump, which we all a team, but I'm the rapper. So I'm the one that's the main scene. Like I'm the one that's on the main scene. So a lot of what I do, like those are my biggest critics. And I say I procrastinate because I still have, you know, everyday life, you know what I'm saying? And I don't always put everything, but I put a lot now, don't get me wrong. But it's always, I'm one of those people that I always can feel like I could be doing better than what I'm doing. And I take the blame for my own stuff. But you gotta be a good delegator. And that's what you're expressing. We've had a lot of different people over the years who work for us. We've changed teams, changed strategies. That's the part of the hustle. The show for show. That's the part of the hustle. And you have to have a... And they ain't enough far from there. And you have to have a strong, you have to be strong, a willed. And you can't, you gotta be willing to let people walk in and out of your life without even carrying. It's business at the end of the day. So a lot of people that don't fit the script gotta be pushed out of the script. Because it can slow the whole team down. You write about that. You write about that. That's why I say we all got a part. So won't nobody feel overworked. You know what I'm saying? We all got a part that we do. Like I said, those are my biggest critics because I respect their opinions. And they're gonna tell me, it rather is it hurt or not. They're gonna tell me that this is what need to be heard. That's good. Constructive criticism is always great. Yeah, you gotta be able to take constructive criticism. And I pride myself on being an open ear. My granny always told me a long time that you ain't never too old to learn something new. Yeah, and that's dope. So I wanna ask you a question. Like the music, because I listen to your music. Right. Some of it's, when is the kids, we hear the same thing, even I tell Charleston. We hear the stuff about the tool and all that. But where is that song that's gonna help that kid? Right. Is it coming? Is it ever gonna come? No, I see. You're hard. Like you too damn hard. So we gotta do something. Yeah, I was basically trying to work on getting in there. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I got a lot of different styles. That's why I call myself Bodega. That pain, when it's time for that pain, they gonna fall in love with it. Cause I'm gonna let them know that when you come from pain, it's just like a, what's they call it? A sunshine flower growing out of the concrete. Like you can come from some of the roughest places and still spread out to be something very beautiful. It just take a little time. So the reason I asked you that question was because I know that you're an artist. So you know you can do it both ways. Right, right, right. You can still maintain that same, you know, error to where I say nigga, don't come over here with trying to flex, but I got kids and your daughter and stuff like that so that you can teach somebody else how to come out of their situation. You've seen a lot of things. We just talked about growing up house to house and all that other stuff. So you have a story that's deeper than just something. The something that I said, yeah, you go. Oh, I say a lot of that. Yeah, a lot of that gonna be expressed in a defamation of character. I look for that cause you say it on another interview that then came out, you push that back. Yeah, I pushed it back. Yeah. Cause I basically want to give this app, Mr. Bodega is out on all platforms. I basically want to get at a little bit more time to catch people's ear. Because like I say, a lot of people feel like that was a hell of a project. And I gotta tell them that's just only the beginning. Like I said, my work ethic is what's gonna push me. It ain't always the best, but it's gonna push me over in just a minute. Because like I say, I come from nothing. So and one thing about growing up in the streets, like when you really from the streets, you realize they're like, you don't want to be here forever. You know what I'm saying? And when I had my daughter, it kind of opened my eyes to a lot of things that were happening to switch my goals. Like switch what's important to me. And like having a hundred thousand in jewelry ain't nothing compared to having a hundred thousand in your little girl name. Before she even graduated out of high school. Like that's what I'm pushing towards. Educating her how to manage it. How to manage it, yeah. And having a family house, like my granny, she stay with my mom right now. Like I'm planning on buying a family house. You know what I'm saying? Before I buy my own house, I'm gonna buy a family house. That's how it's supposed to be. With our last name on it. So we can have some forever. You know what I'm saying? That's dope, man. I'm happy that you're coming out with this project because when you talk about helping the youth that are around you, teaching them, people don't understand, well I didn't realize how powerful this mic is, how powerful music is. I know that young kids listen to them and we always say they listen to them in a negative way. You know what I mean? So I can't understand when people do positive music, why they don't take that and run with it and help change their life. Why is always the negative that they take and run with it and not a positive? It's the people. It's the person. Like it's the extra person that they look at for that. You know what I mean? Like when you look at NBA young boy, like shout out to NBA young boy, no, not down talking or nothing, but they look up to him, they wanna be like him, they see that. So if he was to rap about that type of stuff, it'll make them do that. They're listening. It's all about the getting their ear. That's why I'm working so hard to get that platform. You know what I'm saying? So I can show him that. That's why like Park, you like, like to Park, he could be that hardcore and he could talk and talk, but he also could flip and make to where people could come out of the situation. That's why his music was resonated so well with mine. We know the people coming up in my time. And for generations to come because everybody said that he was way ahead of the time. Because now we're still dealing with the same situations that he was talking about back then. Yeah. I got a question for you. Would you ever sign to anybody else outside of PMG? Yeah, nigga. Yeah, you like, yeah, yeah. Billion dollars coming in. Billion dollars coming in. That's the good thing about doing business with family. Like he'll understand like it'll still be, we'll all still be together, true or not. Yeah, we'll be together. But if they come with a dead type of deal, he the type to be like, boy, you better go get that money. Like they said on Friday. Yeah. You better go get that money. Get that money. That's the type of relationship that I had. Like nobody want to hold nobody back. Yeah, definitely, man. Like at the end of the day, he saw love. Yeah, he saw love. Him and my other cousin, like that's my baby guy appearance. So of course, like he didn't know what I'm doing it for. Like most people do this shit to be famous and be able to walk around and everybody know them. Like I always tell anybody one thing about me, I hustle for my last name, not my first name. I like that. And I represent for the have nots. You know what I'm saying? You got a song. I want to hear it. So that name, but hold on. The name Jose Bodega, where did that come from? And how old were you when that name was created? I created that like around, I was probably like 17 or 18. Like I said, that was my, like when I was doing the comedy, that was my, that was going to be my, So that was your comedy. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I said, I try to keep it simple. Where did it come from? Cause I've heard Bodega before. Bodega is, so you know, like that's like a, like a, like a swat me. Like you can get anything that you need out of a Bodega. Oh, okay. I use that for, it's pretending to my rap style. Black Mesa. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I like it. You speak Spanish? Man, if I have to, you know, I prep myself before I get there to why I can be able to, one thing about me, like I said, I like to educate myself to different things. So I want to be able to sit around anybody in bed but have a intelligent conversation and not look like, ah, that's just a boy from the hood that don't know me. Cause with a name like that, you better speak it. Let me ask you this. Big homie. With the shit. How did you, how did you end up linking with him to do that song? He actually was somebody there. Like was a big fan of what I did. Like my, he say, you love the way that I rap. And he was like, he wanted to do a feature with me. And like I told him, I was like, shit, it was my first time doing a feature with somebody. So I'ma give you the heat. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I respect that. Yeah, yeah. So I gave him, you know what I'm saying? We could laugh down there. And it's really a good record. No, no, it definitely is. It's a good record. Like I say, I got told him, just stay down. Everything is gonna pick up in a minute. Who produced that beat? It was a nice song. That was actually one of his producers. One of his producers. Yeah, I just. He from the city. Yeah, he from Holla Hills too. Okay, dope. I had laid the verse on her form. Like I said, we collared. It was a good song. It's a hell of a project. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I liked the way it went down. I just believed, I didn't know where he was from. I had adapted to him because I adapted to you, you know? The statement, I think you spoke a little bit on it, but what was the process for that? Basically I wanted to come right home. How do you process it, man? Do you write or do you punch in? I punch in. You punch in. I punch in. Yeah, I knew it, yeah, yeah. You was a punch in, dude. Yeah, I let the beat take me wherever. Yeah, and then you just started. Yeah, hold that, now bring that back, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, cause what it was with me, like I was in a point to where I like, cause like I said, I didn't want nothing to be, I didn't want nothing to be given to me. So, like when he, when Yella knew I could rap back in the day, cause like I said, way back in high school, we used to rap in my cousin garage. Be honest, though, be honest. Did you spank that nigga on the song before? I mean, you know, we, I mean, go on the track, I know I just said it. Yeah, I'm finna give it to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just one thing about me back in the day, when, when, when, before Yella came, I was the best rapper out of the group. Okay. Out of our group, cause I could freestyle, like, and I always rap for people like rap, when they come to the garage, like I rap, like anybody that comes to the garage, I'm gonna rap for them. Like my cousin, like we got other people like my, my Ken Folk, his name, Boo Man, he freestyle. Like that's where we come from, freestyling in the garage. You know what I'm saying? All type of crazy rap styles. You know what I mean? So punching it, I ain't nothing but me just remembering a lot of different shit that I used to already say when I was young, you know what I'm saying? So what it was, was Yella was the, he could make a song. That nigga fly with it. Like even way back then. No, no, no. He been like that every time. He could make a song. That's the part I liked about it, man. That nigga, he could listen to you. He gonna make a listen to you out of this world. And I couldn't do that. Yeah. I could rap. You could rap on him, but you couldn't get that song going. I couldn't make a hook for nothing. He knew that, didn't he? Yeah, he knew it. So I just took the back row and I played sports. Yeah. So you were really, you get him over there with that flyness. So you could who? No, I played football. Oh, you played football. That's so crazy. With all of the people that's been coming in, especially musicians, I'm learning so much about the music and realized, when I hear somebody writing, I'm thinking you're writing from start to end, including the hook. Right. I didn't realize that you have somebody who is a hook man. You know what I mean? Yeah, no shame. Shout out to no shame. Right. And stuff like that. Yes, people that see what I do is, I go out of my emotions. Like how I'm feeling throughout the day. Like sometimes I'll be feeling like a million dollars and I go in the studio and talk about it. You know what I'm saying? I put it to where everybody can understand in my way of how I feel. Or some days I'll be feeling down. So I go in there and I let you know to weather the storm. You know what I'm saying? Like I say, I try to be, I try to give them more than one style. So I won't be put in a box. Let me tell you something while I got it on my mind, man. When you go out of here and you go rap with a nigger from out of state, don't let us down, nigga. I'm watching you. Look, look, I'm just, I can't wait. Listen, bro. I'm watching everything, man. You go and get on the track with somebody. I got a represent. And if they eat you up, I'm gonna call you and say, man, what the hell would you think? Out of too big. I'm a big nigga. You can't finish this play. You're gonna kill the band. It's a big play to fool. You're gonna kill it, man. Because you gotta feel that way. It's a competition, man. Yeah, see, and it's our artistry. You know, it's how it makes for a good song. I'm gonna tell you something, y'all. I wouldn't, every time he went up, like when he did the song with Chris Brown, I'm watching that nigga. I'm watching everything. Every time, I'm like, nigga, okay. He think he just watching the Earl Spence fight. Nigga, I'm watching you, nigga. Yeah, nigga, you going up here, you representing us. So how you do with this one? How you do with that one, you know? That's the way it be, man. But he ain't let me down. I mean, ain't gonna lie. That's the whole game. So you look forward to going into that competition market. I'm ready. But that's what I call it, the competition. Yeah, I'm ready. See, cause I look at it like this. I look up to Biggie Smiles. That's one. I knew that. I knew that. Top three all time. We might well go into it now. Top three artists of all time, Dead or Alive. Any genre. Any genre. Dead or Alive. Male or female? Male or female. Well, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Biggie Smiles. Okay. Gotta go Biggie. All the big niggas wanna pick Biggie. I'm gonna be there and keep going, Biggie Smiles. Number two. And then, I gotta go Jay-Z. There you go again. I thought his number two was gonna be 2-Pop. Cause you can't say Biggie and not say 2-Pop. No, let me see where he going. For to be very listening. Very good. He not gonna say it. Who is your third one? He not gonna say it. I don't care. I don't want him to say that. I'm just listening. My third one, it's gonna trip y'all out. Who is it? Eminem. Oh, this is it. I can't deal with Bodega. Jose Bodega can't come back to Bob's talk, man. Now, I wonder about the UGK thing. It was more about being in the south and being from the south. But to younger, you younger. And I gotta get that part. That's the part that I'm learning. See, I, like I said, Forrest, when I say the greatest of all time, cause they did it bigger than Biggie. Okay, you look at how big, how many people they touch. Forrest, like, down south. Oh, don't give me that. I'm not gonna go there. Don't come out. I don't want that. I don't want that. You can't even do that now. You just, you make you three and that's it. But that's my three though. That's my three though. Cause I like lyrical rappers though. And I'm gonna tell you, the best one out of that for me is Biggie. I'm gonna be honest because Mike Jones, he educated me on that. He told me down. You gotta go back and watch that scene. Cause he, you gotta go tap into that. Cause Mike Jones told about Biggie man. He was really arguing with me. Now tell me who, cause he talking about how he was big and he still was able to appeal to the masses like that. Yeah, because people don't understand. Like when you that big, like I look at him as a hell of a musician for us with the music because he was a heavy set guy and he was able to perform night in and night out. And like people know that actually perform like when you're performing, it takes a lot of your body to perform. And it, and I've been winded a lot of nights on stage and I wouldn't even have his size. So I commend him being able to put it down like that. Like that, you gotta love. But when women look at him, he made big sexy again. And that's what I do. Cause it's for him. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Did Lordease be getting the right size shoes for you? You know, bringing them? See, one time you're right. You remember that? Yeah, yeah, me, yeah. With that 40 to 14, I always had to do 14. Yeah, see, that's, and like I said, he was a good, he was a good person to look up to. And he seemed like in a very short time, right? Yeah, yeah. And then of course he's part of Jamaican too. Yeah, I heard that. Yeah, the stylist. Everybody argued with me about that because I take Biggie Smiles over Tupac. And you see, and the funny thing, cause I'm from Jamaica, but I take Tupac over Biggie. Right, right. But don't get me wrong. Like I said, it's just in, in artistry, you know, music, like Poc could make, he told the big stories. I love this. Yeah. Like he, I just told you about that. I love for Poc. Don't get me wrong. I love that man. He, like I said, they paid away for music. And it was just a sad thing that they was took away from the music. So early because they had so much influence. What an offer. That was so, so much influential. Biggie had a style to him that was different from Tupac. Tupac tend to want to be gangsta and everything like that. But Biggie didn't have to come up to me, didn't come across gangsta. No, no, no. He had a smooth, he was just like this. Yeah, like fly wrap. That's what I like to call it. They both did that. They both had the moments with that. Yeah, but see, just a thing like. Tupac didn't come across to me like that at all. He was more like. With Biggie, like you said, when you come from the hood and you was stuck there. And like I said, when I say stuck there, like we didn't have no option. Like that was what we had to do until we, to the Lord. Like my money, I always say into the Lord blessed us. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still to this day though. How old is Granny? She finna be 80. Man, and I love the way you smile when Granny, let me say Granny. Yeah, let me say Granny, that's a smile. That's a whole different level. Yeah, that's my baby. Make sure she watches this. Oh yeah. What's her name? Irma Jean. Shout out to Irma Jean, man. Your boy, E, C, O and Mr. M- the official Mr. M- He can know she a grandma because that those names, people not naming their kids those names. Irma Jean, that's my baby. She on play. Yeah, she on play. Still to this day. That's good. Whenever you see her got her glasses on her nose, she looking up at you. She not even looking in her glasses. How's that, Bodega? Oh yeah, man. We gotta get, we gotta, you know, the thing I look at you, man, and when I look at you, I expect a lot from you. Right. You know, as far as with the people around you, you're a leader, man. Right, right, right. And, you know, you talked about the stigma. We not gonna get into the stigma that much or the way people allegedly the character. But you the, you the guy to fix it. Right, right, right. You understand what was happening with the youngsters around you, building bridges, and like I talked about earlier, not walls, educating the ones around you about God. You express God, a high power. So, you know, you got to let somebody gotta do it. Yeah, somebody gotta do it. Like somebody gotta let the kids know that it's more to life. And they, they get caught in that box where they feel like, okay, this is how to, this is how you get the big jury and the good calls and the pretty women. That's all they see. Because that's what they see. They don't see this lawyer over here with, with, with, with six figures in the bank account. And he came from that same place because he don't, it ain't, the lawyer don't got no way to tell his story. That's right. So that's what I'm gonna do. I'm a tell a story for the have nots. So you gonna put it in the music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's gonna be dope. Yeah, man. I'm gonna be holding you to it. I'm gonna call him and be like, hey, hey, low D's, where the hell is, where the hell is Jose Bodego with this music? Like I said, I love to have nots. You don't see me talk about that all the time. Like somebody gotta, gotta let them know that we know y'all out here too. We all out here together. When you can't forget the people that there's have less because I have less. That's right. Well you, you know where it is to have less. That's why we have this platform. And I've always said this on almost every, every episode that that's why we go back into your backstory and we try to hear these stories because someone who is watching, who is going through the same thing that you went through and see where you are right now, know that there is a choice because I've met so many people who said, I felt like I had no choice but to do this. You know what I mean? But I love, I commend, I can't wait for those songs, songs to come out. That's why I say, my point is the wrong way to say to send us prayer. That's dope. Like I said, I don't knock nobody for what they had to do in life. You know what I'm saying? Everybody come from different walks of life where they had to do different things to be successful. And I also feel like that, yeah, God know, God see the robbers. You know what I'm saying? God see the ones that's after doing this subject they really don't want to do, but they doing it for a purpose. Like it'd be a lot of people out there that really don't have no other choice. You know what I'm saying? And they got the choice but they're not educated to know the choice. Okay, let me actually opinion on this. This is just a situation. I'm not on call, no names or anything like that. But when you see a person, because I've met a person who was making the six figures a year. I mean, great job, everything like that. But end up leaving that to go to the street life. You understand what I mean? Because he wanted to be around those women, mainly strippers and all of that. He wanted that type of life. See, because that lifestyle appeals more to people. Like basically what I mean when I say that he is. He end up getting killed from that life too. Yeah, because like you say, just because people want to travel that road, that road is dangerous. It's just like the army men, when they on camp field, when they going through live field, where they walking through gunshots and stuff like that. It's just like that in life. Is it the adrenaline or something like that? Because I can't understand that life, you making really, really good money and you come over here and. Because like you say, they see again, going off what they see. They see the rappers with the strippers and they see the big money guys with the strippers. And a lot of people think once they get money, it's the answer. But money's not necessarily the answer. It definitely is. Money is just the criteria. Like there's just something you gotta have in life. You know what I'm saying? That's a part of the things that you gotta be able to take care of your business with. And they feel like once they get the money, now they can be. And I don't understand why people want to be somebody from the streets, because it ain't as all as it cracked up to be. It's a lot of, it look good on when you rap about it, but it's far from good when you live it. But a lot of people think that when you have money, you gain respect as well. And it don't always come like that because even like being a black person and you get money, you still have to deal with racism. Yeah, you, just cause you got a hundred thousand dollars or just cause you got a million dollars, 10,000, 50,000, whatever you want to call it. That don't change the color of your skin. Exactly. That don't change. Hey, Robert Smith got eight billion. He the richest black American man and he's still, still gonna try it. He's still, you wouldn't know him if you walked in today cause he ain't into sports. Right. And that was, that come way from, right. And that come way from like our ancestors, like the color of your skin ain't gonna change. Ain't gonna change. So you still gonna have to deal with adversity of being a black man or a ethnic, you know what I'm saying? But a lot of people still feel that way. That these kids feel like, oh, if I have it, I'll be okay. Yeah. Yeah, they gonna feel like that cause that's what we make them feel like. That's what they see. Like they think having pretty good cars and nice houses is life. They don't know they having good health is life. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like I said, my granny, a lot of my friends and brothers around me, they keep me level headed on different things. That's the blessing right there. Yeah, cause like I say, I could blow up tomorrow and I still only difference it'll be, I'll be doing more for the people that are less fortunate because my granny, I always, cause we was the ones at those, in those lines on Christmas. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Waiting to get the two toys a piece. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I've been there. Yeah. I mean, you got a lot of the same thing going on. Cause your salvation aren't in line. That teaches you integrity, man. That teaches you how to, how to, how to respect. To set your pride aside and be thankful for what you do have. You know what I'm saying? My granny was big on making us thankful for the things that we do have versus the things that we do not. You know what I mean? So let me check this music out. I want to see if I can't find a beat. I'm gonna give me about a 16 out of you. I know who your favorite producer cause you're a music producer. Yeah. Who's your favorite damn producer? I like, Oh. You know anything about it? You don't know anything about Rock T? Oh, my God, I've never heard of him. You know what I mean? He's from the neighborhood, but he made a beat. Y'all don't even know he's from the neighborhood. I've been trying to fuck with everybody though, but I fucked with Monster. Yeah, I seen that. I looked that up. Yeah, a lot of. But do Monster, he got some stuff on here? Yeah, I think so. Is it M-O-N-S-T-A? Send him an email. Y'all know you niggas be rapping. Y'all rap 24 sell. I was on that boat with Yellow Beesie, man. That nigga did not stop rapping. He love that stuff, man. Yeah, yeah, got to, man. I was like, this nigga really doing this. Like it was one nigga that made me think about Omarion. Niggas say that nigga was dancing when he met him. He said that nigga kept dancing the whole night. I said, he said, that nigga really liked this, here. I seen Yellow, I was like, damn, that nigga, he just, he ain't gonna stop. Like, you know, stop and eat, nigga. But I like it though, cause that tell me you love what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, you love what you do. You wasn't on there, was you? Y'all wasn't even, why you didn't come? I was actually sick that day. Y'all was actually having fun. I ain't wanna be the one on the couch. Okay. Everybody was on the couch. We were like, you know, every since I left, these people like to ask him, I say, where he was like, some people didn't want him to come. Y'all was sick, man. Y'all got to be E.C. on the official, Mr. Michael. We was in the building. Like I said, I was sick, man. Y'all like, how the hell he get on this boat? I was sick. No, we interviewed different. We knew to the set, man. We love hard. You know what I'm saying? That's what it's about, man. Yeah, man. It ain't tripping. Put me on some slope. Did you? Yeah, that might be cool, like that. You can ride with that? Yeah. I gotta bring you in, nigga. Don't try to. Check it, man. Check it, man. It's a unique hospital. It's your boy, E-C-E-O, man. We on Boss Talk 101, man. Check my whole J. Bo Dake in the building. Uh, I hear the talking in the backgrounds for the niggas that hate me, but never act out, holding your tongue. You pillar talking. I been workin' my thumbs. You was cappin' ridin' around with them guns. Okay. I was flinstoned. Pick your poison. I ain't the one you wanna pick on. I get acted a little niggas. I get my kerp on. Swear to God, I put all of the hard times in my earlobes. Grew up in the trench and slept with that nine by my window. Yes, son. I'm a big dog. Now let me be specific. I came from kickin' doves. Now I got a feature ticket. Yeah, man. Check it, man. That's my boy, E-C-E-O, nigga, man. I know, man. Say it, man. Hey, man, I didn't have to pay for it, either. I'm at the curtside right now, nigga. Check it, man. Jose Bodega come in and bless that game, man. Boss talk one-on-one. It's about to go down. Say it, man. So how you feel? You don't see big business, man. How you feel when you put that music down, man? Like, how make you feel? Like, you know, I don't rap, you know what I'm sayin'? Like I said, I rap about, like I go from what's in the heart. You know what I'm sayin'? What I'm feelin'? Yeah. What I'm goin' through. You know what I'm sayin'? I feel like different things. You know what I mean? So I try to give. So, okay, just like R&B. I always say, we've had some R&B people come on and whenever they write a certain song is because they're in those feelings. They're feeling whatever. But when you have to go on stage and you have to perform this and you're not in that space at that time, how different is your performance at that time because you're not the same mind frame? Okay, well, like with me, I like to be more like, like, you know how some people, they like to be buzzed. Like, I say so much in my bars, like in my verses, so I actually rap sober. Like, I perform sober. Wow. No drinks, no weed, nothing. And I just, like I said, I go out there and I lay it out. Yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? That's cool. Cause like I said, I'm big, so every step, it's like an energy meet on a game. Like, it's just goin' down. And every more I move and jumpin' around. So I like to stay level-headed because like I said, since I've started doing music, I fell in love with the people. You know what I'm sayin'? I feel like I could be that person, you know what I'm sayin'? To make them feel good about not havin' as much as everybody else. You know what I'm sayin'? Cause this, all this jewelry, the nice clothes, that's just a front. Like, that's just a, when I say front, I don't mean like a front. Like I'm frontin', I mean like, that's just out of appearance. Right, it's materialistic stuff. Some of the ugliest people on the outside have the most beautiful things to say. You know what I'm sayin'? That's dope, I like that. What is it? You tryin' to be a poet, nigga? Hey, man, you're a poet, man. I gotta ask this, man, too long you, man. Well, y'all, what was the process of that? Cause I didn't ask, and that's the one, that's the last one y'all done together, right? Right. So how was it, I mean, and was it big for you? Or was it, was it your song? Was it his song? Well, it was my song. Okay. What it was, was him and Freddie was gettin' ready to put that project out. I seen where you said you had some with Troboy, but I couldn't find them. Yeah, it ain't that shit. I couldn't find them. I'm like, I can't find them. That's what I wanted to do was, I wanted to get everybody behind my music. I didn't want to be built off of future features because of people that I know, you know what I'm sayin'? Like, I know I have it a lot easier than a lot of other artists because the people that I know that in the positions, the places in the positions that they're in, so me, I don't want to use that. Okay. I'm gonna show y'all my grind so y'all can fall in love with me. Yeah. And then, I can go to that. Because like I say, I can get features with all the big artists in the B. I know that. If I wanted to, but I don't want to be that guy. Like I said, I want to represent for the have-nots. They gon' love me after this. I like your spirit. I like the things that you're saying. You have your head on your shoulder. Yeah, they gon' love me after this. So that song there, though, when y'all was rapping it, you know, what was the moment, what was the video? Let's talk about the video and let's talk about the process of the song before we get out of there. Okay. The process, how we did it was, I had, it was crazy because I had been working and I had been wanting to show bro, like, yeah. Yeah, I'm getting it in. Yeah, I'm getting it in, I'm working. So he thought he was finna have me out of guard. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, hey man, we finna get ready to drop the project tomorrow. So you need to go ahead and if you want to be on there, you gotta put some on there. I was at the studio last night. I got some. And I didn't even have to go through, I honestly, first song that I played for him, that was too long. And I had just recorded it the night before. Cause see what I do is I go to the studio, I'm different, I'll rap early in the morning. Like I wake up at nine o'clock in the morning and then I go to the studio until like one or two. And that's when my creative juices be formed. I can rap at night if I have to, but it is my session. And that's where the majority of people go is late night. Yeah, if it's my session, I'm early in the morning while everybody else is asleep. I'm the same way, right babe? While everybody else is asleep. I'm ready to be up. I'm ready. Cause I want to get it out the way. It's a job. You know what I'm saying? I love it, but it's a job. So what happened on that? So you, when you, when I played it for him, him and everybody that was in the studio was like, boy, that's a hit. You sure you want to put this on? On our project? I'm like, I don't care. I got a lot of music. Like I ain't, I'm working. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I want it to just be something more. You know, so when I put that out, for when I played it for him, he was like, yeah, I'm feeling like something. How long did it take him to do his verse? It took him about 30 minutes. Yeah. Let him know. I say, I'm checking. Yeah. Get inside that studio with your nigga. Jose Bodega. Yella. I see what's going on. He went in there and see, I had went so hard on it tomorrow. I know him. I know him. He was like, oh yeah. I'm for the kid. You on this one? I said, okay. Yeah. You like that. Yeah. That's dope. And when we shot the video. Did you redo your verse? Are you? Okay. I don't know. You know, I'm just saying. One thing about me, man, I stand on these lyrics. Already. Like I said, it's just my confidence and my heart. You know what I'm saying? I can rap with anybody. You know, I ain't gonna. Cause I'm giving you real. Like it ain't fabricated. So it's gonna come right out. And I just like to say it in a fly away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it won't be so rough. I already look like a cave man. I gotta give him, at least gotta sound sexy on the beat. So I'm saying. Stop it, man. Yeah. I'm already the ugly nigga. I gotta be fly on the beat. You gotta come on with it. I ain't nothing wrong with being ugly nigga. I always said I was no handsome nigga. I never claimed to be no pretty boy. The worst ones is the ones that say they're handsome. Believe that. So I was a video process. Cause I see y'all in that. The video man, that, look, like I said, my manager, he was, he, he did his shit. Like he set up everything. One, like I said, shout out a little DZ, PMG, heavy hitters. Yo man. I don't think I had to do was just pull up. Pull up and do your part. Do my part. Yeah. Let me, let me, let me ask you for that young kid out there that that pretty much came up just like you. I don't know how, don't know really know how he's gonna figure it out, you know, he's about 15. What would you say to him to motivate him to keep going and how would you tell him to strategize? First I tell him finish school. Okay. You know what I'm saying? You, you, you, you ain't gonna be nothing if you don't know how to count the money. Yeah. You ain't gonna do nothing but fuck you over. That's real. That's real. You're so. And count money don't always mean physically count money. You have to look under books and know that it's not gonna be. Don't get bigger than just the money you got. Pay attention to, pay attention to everything. You know what I'm saying? If you wanna do music, work at it every day. Get in that studio, you know what I'm saying? You understand that the quality ain't gonna be as best as it can in the beginning but work on your craft. Okay. The word when you do get that chance or the opportunity to get in that big studio is how you, with the music is, I feel like it's 90% business. Okay. 10% talent. Okay. Cause, and I learned that through it then going through the processes of doing music that it ain't all about what you say or how you say it on a beat. Yeah. You gotta be able to be sold. Mm-hmm. And I hate to say it like that but that's just really how it is. No, just talk your talk, man. That's real. So they gotta be able to sell you. So even if you don't have the jury, you gotta have the mentality, the initiative, the heart. Okay. Cause I heard stories like people would know like his big artist that you wouldn't even think of got signed with 3000 followers. Wow. And I heard that story through, you know what I'm saying? Being in the business. Yeah. That's dope. Favorite ain't fair, I always say that. God picks who he want. Right. You know, people don't, they don't get it. They think it's something they're doing but God already wrote it out. Yeah. So I think that's the part where exactly what God has for you can't nobody get it, no way, jury. So I like that part of what you say. But you can't hinder yourself from and block yourself from your own blessings. By being positioned incorrectly. Right? Right. And thank you so much for coming on the show, man. God for show is our love. We love you, bro. That's our love. Listen man, you got a new family now and I'm coming on your show. When you get it going and if you need some help starting it, you know I'm your guy. Call me. I need to know how to do this or I won't do that and I'm your guy, okay? But we good. We good. Thank you so much, man. And I enjoy it, child. We wish you much love. Wish you much success. Much love, much success, bro. You know what I'm saying? And like I say, we're here. I was only the beginning. We're here and anytime you're gonna drop a project, you're like, I'm gonna come over there and get something. No, we're gonna rock out, man. So hey, we love you, bro. And say this been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.