 And many thanks for staying with us this beautiful Monday morning. We have Okpunabon Katari on standby. He joins us off the press. Okpunabon, happy holiday. And thank you for joining us. Good morning, Nancy. Good morning, Andrews, and happy holiday. All right, then. Let's take a look at the punch newspaper. As always, we run through the pages of the National Dailies, and we have, I guess, share their thoughts on the big stories. On the punch, 2023 budget federal government plans, 1.35 trillion-hour war chest against Boko Haram and bandits. I find that really interesting. Underneath, to acquire fighter jets, ammunition, and budgets, one billion-hour for terrorist persecution. IG and Baxon rode petrol in nothing states and promises advocate security. That's what we find underneath the board caption on the punch newspaper. Muslim-Muslim aggrieved APC Christians to dump Tunibu and Shatima. Federal government borrowed 22.3 trillion-hour foreign education garb 609 million dollars according to the Central Bank of Nigeria. Controversy surrounds alleged release of 101 Boko Haram terrorists. Presidency, Attiku, Governors IU, begin campaign in Uyo. That's the capital of Aqaibam state. Forex, scarcity hits gas suppliers and price hike imminent. Shareholders knock Kogi and group alleged exploitation. NDLEA seizes one billion-trama-dollar Lagos Airport. Hoodloom's rape-quarra-vacity students arrested with 87 phones. And internet fraudsters contact Facebook hairballist, dismemberment man for ritual. You also have a picture, a pictorial representation of a pro-Tunibu rally, a ground yesterday APC. Very excited. That's what the punch is quoted to say. Well, let's move away from the punches. We have the leadership newspaper. The leadership says, hell or after hell, it's Lokoja. Let's not forget that's a lot is going on, prayers and thoughts, but we're also hoping that actions would also be greeted with all of this thoughts as Lokoja is facing a serious flooding issue. There's also a pictorial representation. If you look at the front page, you see that very saddening. And you have this paper saying that the deployed drones in telling the story of the misery of many dead and displaced persons and businesses ruined by the floods in Niger's north central region. Transporters hike fare as fuel scarcity lingers. And there might just also be a lot of connection with the situation in Lokoja. Now, just before we move away from the punch, I beg your pardon, the leadership newspaper, Mass Decession, Retirement Looms as Military Proposes New Service Scheme. That's it on the leadership. This, their newspaper, is the next one. This, their newspaper, is the next paper for us. Emerging business leaders from north, matching tech unicorns of the south. They are bold, audacious, and ready to take Niger to new frontiers. Now, there's also a pictorial representation to that story. Buhari grieves as Anambra recovers 16 borders in both tragedy and a federal government words into Dangote Kogi government's dispute. PDP kicks off presidential campaign in Uyo. And that's it on this day newspaper. Now, quickly, we'll turn our attention to the daily trust before we have a guest share his thoughts on some of the headlines. On the daily trust, House 62 Airlines went Moribah since 1960. House 62 Airlines went Moribah since 1960. Multiple charges hash business environment responsible. That's what operators are saying. Need for alternative funding. 3,000 rendered homeless as flood heats 17 emo communities. A non-disclosure of leaf-ted crude caught freezes three oil and gas firms account. Half-load submerged 4,400 hectares of rice in Nassarua. It's a lot for food security. Anambra boat accident. 16 bodies recovered as Buhari orders rescue operation. That's the boat accident. Very unfortunate. Dangote to approach quarters. Kogi moves to recover the company. These are some of the headlines this morning on the daily trust newspaper. Okunabon Katara's with us. Okunabon, thank you for being with us this morning on the breakfast. Thank you. Thank you once more, Messi. All right. Let's start off with the punch. On the punch, we have the 2023 budget as focus. And the federal government is proposing 1.35 trillion Naira as watchers against Boko Haram and bandits. However, we also see that for the fight against terrorists and the prosecution, the federal government is set to acquire fighter jets, ammunition, and has budgeted. There's a budget of 1 billion Naira for all of this. What are your thoughts, especially when we understand that there's also a lot that happened in 2021, you know, or the budget that we have over time for the fight against terrorists and all of the equipments that we have actually poachers. But it feels like, you know, the fight against terrorists, bandits, and whatever you are still on the high. Okunabon? I've lost you guys, but I can hear you now. I lost you at the point. So I'd like you to share your thoughts on the federal government's proposal or plans to spend 1.35 trillion Naira. This is like a war chest against Boko Haram and bandits. I heard that. I heard that. So my question is, what do you make of this, especially when we know that over the years, we have, you know, spent so much in terms of defense, we have acquired, you know, different jet fighters and what have you, but we don't seem to be victorious against the fight against bandits and Boko Haram. Let's see, can you hear me? Loud and clear. Ok, what we are bothered about is the efficacy of the expenditure. It is actually going to produce the desired results. And because if we go by antecedent, you realize that the issue of banditry has become, or Boko Haram banditry did not do what I did. Those issues have become gravely trained for the military top brass. I'm going to use the immediate past statuses as examples. I'm talking of Burakai and Koh. Where billions of Naira were spent, or what have they spent on the fight against crime and criminality by this bandit. And when their subsensors came into office, they said, including the President, Chief of Amistad, and all the southern states, said the Chief of Amistad, who was not, after that time, the Chief of Amistad, because the man died, his predecessor died in a plane crash. But even the NSN corroborated the story that all the monies that were released to the former family teams who were not accounted for, and there was nothing, no purchase on ground to justify the need of those monies. So that is why we talk of the efficacy of the expenditure. I agree going to produce the desired result. How is this now a gravely trade? In other words, a conduit flight is not a kind of an opportunity for these service teams to test or align their pockets. That is our real worry. And again, if you look at the fight against terrorism, well, the President's service team and the President's representatives are not commending as they're from predicate, the top five. But not, I think, he will justify all the monies released to the Ministry of Defense could be justified, because I think this service to a very large extent are almost, almost winning the war. Because even today, you say, you've got to the particular community. By tomorrow, the service would have raided and raided our capital, three other communities. So it's a complicated situation. Nevertheless, why we have to commend the President for their effort, for what he's doing? A man who will not even make so much learn about the socks, if you even imagine the way you're remaining adept on your needs, trade adept on your needs. He didn't make much learn about it. He was not an empty vessel. One like this other one that will remain one person, I will want to make, turn it into one bigger piece. But I think that the major problem that you guys are having is not just the money that have been budgeted for this, but the issue of the misuse of those monies that have been budgeted. And that is why whenever they say, X amount is budgeted to fight Boko Haram or the soldiers here or what have been, a lot of people impune the sincerity because it is seen as one country fight. And an opportunity for these soldiers to make a lot of money, to fed up or lie in their pockets. And sadly, we have the President that is not even bothered about the corruption in the defense ministry. Rather, what he does is to reward corruption by promoting all those that we accused, not by Nigerians, not just by the alcoholics, not the ordinary Nigerians, but the energy, not much is either right or wrong. And these presidential service teams, these are radio ligations, not coming from another Nigeria. And Mr. President, to all of those, I wanted to use the word, but it was an air, so all of those characters decided to promote them and make them impossible. In other words, it's to making them from persecution. And I strongly believe that whoever will succeed, Mr. President, to investigate those allegations, to investigate those things. We have the NSE, we have another number of witnesses that will come out to stop searching and cause the allegation to defend the NSE system. So my question here now is, do you think that finance is the issue? Because every other time we seem to be paying attention to it. I mean, when we talk about the financing. They said they spend this money on purchase of arms and ammunition to fight the war. That is what they are paid. So of course you can't go by, because if it's about the technical know-how, I believe our soldiers have what it takes to fight in Bukohara. In as much as a lot of people say because it is, it is not a conventional one, for example, it's a little bit complicated. But I don't think so. The truth about it is that you're talking about a commitment, you're talking about incentives, you're talking about commitment. And that's what I'm saying. When these money are released, the service fees don't even, it doesn't even take them down. Because they don't buy the equipment, so it's not difficult to fight in Bukohara. You can't fight them without the equipment. Number two, you get the money of incentives. And like when some of these, as that was your relief, they said it as those who are going to pay themselves. So on their way they meet about three different checkpoints. The second one will tell you by then, we apologize, but you have to give us our own cost. The second one will tell you by then, we apologize, there's nothing we can do about it. The second one will tell you what to take care of. That's what I mean. So you need the money because you need to buy a equipment. No doubt about that. But it goes beyond the money. It has to do with incentives and commitment by both the federal government and the soldiers on ground. Because these soldiers on ground know that any day they die, they will not die in vain. They will put in their best. That is number one. Number two, if they are also encouraged, that's what I'm saying to you. They are also encouraged. Unfortunately, you cannot say that you cannot say that you are not encouraged. You cannot say that you are not encouraged. You are not bothered about this weather. How do you think it's going to be committed? That it's going to be compromised. That's the point I'm making. So the money is just to me. But it goes beyond, excuse me, it goes beyond finance. It has to do with incentives. It has to do with commitment. It has to do with water. These are the issues. So it's a top mantra of issues. But you cannot rule out money. Money has to be cultural in the world because you need to buy these equipment. That is number one. Number two, you also need to encourage the soldiers that are going there to die. Because when you send a man to go by look around, he's not sure what he's going to survive. It's not much. Although that is what he's trying for. So they are cultural as that money is. The other thing is incentives. The top of the leadership. These leaders have been saying in this world, as you look around, you can imagine, you come out from this city. Chief of Amistad, Burakha, who said they were going to last for 10 years. You have already made up his mind that they are going to some other character. He's not up his mind already. And he's not going to. And so he says that because he knew that he had embedded the funds. As I was saying, behind this example, you have embedded the funds. And in order to give a reason for not being able to contain the situation, he said he's going to last for 20 years. Even if he's going to last for 40 years, what are your efforts in stopping this? What are the reforms that you are leaving? So it's not that we're not just talking about funds. We are talking about incentives. We are talking about the commitment. We are talking about the provision of the needed arms and ammunition to fight in this war. Well, I mean, we need to move away from that. Even though some people would say that we live in a system where we don't seem to understand the kind of war that's been fought. And sometimes we pay attention to saying, hey, we need the Turkano jets. I mean, the kind of war that we're in is not the conventional war. And so do you need the Turkano jets? Are we getting the right equipment? That's on the one hand. We also have a situation where just recently, you have a person who's actually made some comment saying that due to the fact that the military is not properly taken care of and what have you on the payment and all of the issues surrounding the welfare. Some persons have resulted to sabotage. You know, arms and what have you. So there's a lot that's going on beyond just saying we're chunking monies. We were purchasing the fighter jets and what have you. And when we look at it with the current results that we have, it's it's not yielding anything that we expect. But basically, you don't have to record what I said. For example, the vision of the jet, you just mentioned, only the answer to tell you would be relevant on that jet. But you see, it goes beyond that. It's seen as a great injury in a lot of cities as an opportunity to make money to light their pockets in a lot of these characters. So they are not really bothered. That's why it's up to the leadership. There is no sincerity of people. The question is, are these things done for essentially good reasons? The answer is no, because there's no commitment. And the commander is also not bothered. When I read this example, his media advisors would come up, sportsmen would come up to make one announcement, make one announcement together. And at the end of it all, you see, you show them what you're going to do, show the high blood pressure of the society, the greater people, and the name of a complete performance. You gather the money, you say, you need such a man. What is for me to do? They don't go to him to tell him we need it. He's a general, a retired general. You should know. They go to him to say, we need it. And he says, okay, we need it before. They go, they take the phone, go work your way, and do whatever they want to do with it. There is no, if that's the case, a man cannot get it. So they are not really bothered. What they really want is the money to blind their pocket. That's the point. Even the soldiers, they can't do it. They're not really comfortable. So you can see the level of compromise. And how will you end this war? Is that one great victory? So, otherwise, you even need to build up a business, one trillion, to contain this. Then it's actually working. Nigerians will be happy with it. Nigerians are incensed, because so much is attached of this, but the nation will not be able to show for it. And you've said these things cannot be expected from that nation. They are comfortable. That is why Nigerians are bitter about it. About whatever they say, it's a matter of being budgeted. The capital that Nigerians are content, that money has dug in back to the Sahil Sea. It's not for any Nigerian purpose. Open up on Katera. Let's also look at the leadership newspaper. It talks about Haka Hill. It's Lokoja. And it's the issue of the flooding. I'd like you to show your thoughts on this. The situation that has led us as a country, because whatever affects a certain part of the country, affects the entire country. And we hear reports saying that goods and services or products have not been able to be moved to the other parts due to the current situation, not to talk about those who lost their lives. But really, what do you think that the government should be doing? Some quarters have said that a state of emergency should have been declared. Your thoughts? While the truth is, it's a global disaster. You have floods all over the world right now. I mean, as America, a lot of these Western countries here, they even have the most sophisticated equipment to fight this. But there is really nothing you can do. But what Nigerians are bothered about is the rescue mission. That is what Nigerians are really bothered about. Now, the difference between what we have here in Nigeria and the other civilized life is that when you have to flood another civilized life, it is beyond the human capacity to continue. But in Nigeria, these things are not made because of lack of time planning. Who likes a lack of it or who likes to disrepair to the time planning rules and time planning laws. And that's why you have to flood. You have shanties, most of them do on waterways, most of them do on villages and so on. Now, I'm not an expert. I'm not a time planner. I'm not an expert in that. But it is very simple. What we expect and given the way we live in this part of the world, I'm talking about such an idea as school. When these shanties and school and houses or people build, they're not just shanties. They mean you go and you see beautiful buildings, expensive buildings on villages and so on. When, for example, because we have a system that is compromised, rather than stop the building or rather than demolish the building, you see that what most of these people do is go to bribe the officials and disarm the other way. It is only when you have this disaster that you see people shouting and talking. Then the next one, system two, about when these things happen within seconds, within minutes, you see this movement needs to save lives and property. That is also not the case in this part of the world. There is not even a delay and so much damage will not be caused before you see the government responding. So these are the issues. But what I think about the problem is the global issues. And then if there is, you see, in America, in some of these countries, in this one, this one is safe here. But the problem is the response system mechanism is much better until there are those problems that are different to at least do a damage control in this civilized land. Yeah, it is not the case. I'm saying the flooding in those civilized countries are not occasioned by the disregard for town planning laws. But in this one of the countries, most times disregard for town planning laws. Don't build on this, but this is the one I will. Don't build on this. Don't do this. The authorities will get money and receive rights and allow this country to go ahead and build. And we will only respond. The less of them in most cases wait in that part of the world. It's so sad, it's unfortunate. But even those who are involved can not escalate themselves because they know that what they are doing is wrong. But probably because of the situation, the harshness of the economy, why they know that what they are doing is wrong. But it's like, what is wrong? You see a building that is deadly. And you know that the integrity of that building is in question. You see cracks all over, pieces all over. Yes, you want to move into that building. Believe in that. Why are you feeling that there is nothing wrong? So you will tell you, God is on my side, nothing wrong. I mean, it is so ridiculous. So most times living in these buildings are guilty of what we accuse the government of. If you know that this is the work of God, you don't need to write anybody down. Because eventually it is going to affect you and all your money you start doing it with, including your life and the life of your loved ones. So we end up with what we call the... So this is from the government agency. I think that's the name again. We have to do a lot, a whole lot of publicity on this. I'm talking about no one, no one. That's not a very good thing. We have to do a whole lot. No one is talking about sleeping. No one is talking about inactive. I have to speak like that. All that is wrong. This is not the way it's supposed to be. It is treading itself and treading its duty in terms of our next creation. It has to do a lot on this. So why are you also going to blame the government? You're also going to blame the victims. Open up on Kateria. I mean quickly, let's just move this on. It's still on the leadership newspaper. And we're talking about the current situation in Lokoja. But you have rightly stated, although you have tilted the other side of the divide, you have stated that this is a global phenomenon. And we understand that flooding happens across, but some people believe that the flooding that we're experiencing in Nigeria is manmade because of human activities and other issues that you have mentioned. And this particular one is that, I mean, if you have denimers putting out information, are we not supposed to be proactive? Because when you talk about natural disaster, the disaster is happening. Probably your ears are not inclined. If your ears are inclined, all you said is what I said. I told you I said this government is comfortable because they did rise and turn the other way. I said all that. And so what you're saying, you're only reoccurring what I said. I said, including the victims, who got to rise, knowing too well that what they are doing is wrong. So I think that this is not enough, it's not enough, it's not enough. But there, in Nigeria, the difference is, one, the government, for example, are compromised. And two, the victims themselves are equally guilty. They are comfortable because they rise, the government officials, to be compromised. And that is why it is not me. You know that this is a drainage. Why build on it? This is a water. Well, why build on it? And at the end of the day, you spend hundreds of millions on the digital education, only for it to be demand or washed away by water. Now, it goes beyond the editing. You're also talking of you, your life, and the lives of your loved ones. I said all this. I said it's good money. We agree that it's an international number. In Nigeria, the difference, that's what I said. I said, but in Nigeria, the difference is that, in most cases, it is money. And also, the rest of the system is bad, where this is happening. It's bad. So you are practically right when I got here, like I said. The Daily Trust, the People's Democratic Party, begins her presidential campaign today, or they've started their campaign already. What are your thoughts, really? Especially when it's like there has been a lot of trouble. Of course, they have to start. The ban has released their presidential campaign. A lot of people thought that giving the excuse in the party is a major delay. But, I mean, no one man is indispensable in this world. No one man. And Mr. President, Mr. President, the format back to the country, will not put anything on hold because of a macroscopic view. Why the campaigns will go on? The negotiations can continue. And if it goes to future, better. If it doesn't, fine. It's not going to be there because A, B, C, E, S, D, and O are good. Therefore, my decision should be on hold. No, it's not going to be. So, I mean, we need to take it to a prime one, because here's the chairman of the campaign council, that is number one. And number two, they know that the problem is going to be a plenty of problems. And not to give up that there is going to be a whole start. Now you have a director who wants to post certain efforts in the state. He really needs to look at the decision he's provided in sign. You realize that you're trying to push the other political parties from campaigning. That's what he's trying to do. So, the project is always that. I mean, I know how you said it, Dan. I want to be the president of the campaign. I want to be the president of the campaign. And that is what they're doing. They have to keep up. They have to keep up. And so the future is in that problem today. Well, thank you so much. We have to go on. We appreciate your thoughts. And making our time to be with us this morning on Off the Press and the Breakfast. Thank you. All right. Then have a great day. And that's the march we can take this morning on Off the Press, up on the Bon Quatara as a public affairs analyst. It's been great with his thoughts on some of our national dailies. We'll return tomorrow with the paper review. But in the meantime, we take a break. But just before then, let's tell you what happened today in history being the 10th of October. Stay with us.