 o iimajin. Kenya hizit that corruption steals 250,000 jobs for the young people because if you steal one cent, that cent could also as well employ another one person somewhere. Therefore, I believe the consequences of corruption should be very dire and we have had several members of parliament, I remember Dindi Nyoro from Kiharu, who proposed that let us make anybody who steals suffer the consequences as an economic crime because let us look at corruption from these three angles. Number one, we have bribery. Number two, we have contractual agreements. Number four, we have what they in simple terms, what they normally call, I know you have had them, kickbacks. We also have inter institutional corruption. That one tells you that from looking at it from different angles, several people including we the citizens have in one way or the other precipitated corruption in Kenya. Therefore, that one tells you that the backstops with each and every person, the moment Amatatu driver decides to bribe a police officer even when their cars, their Amatatu's are in order, that one tells you the sense of irresponsibility in the citizenry. I normally like quoting an African socialist by the name Thomas Ankara. He was one of the revolutionists of Bukinafaso. He said that a citizen without patriotic education is a potential criminal. So how does patriotism at a global age help citizens to think into their mind and digest corruption and reject it with all man as possible right now? Briefly. Let me make that final point. How many people have bribed to get their children admitted in a county school and they were called into a sub county school? I can bet they are very many and they are the ones out there making so much noise about corruption. It begins from the family set up. Daniel, do you think the constitution or the law should be revised to ensure people who are convicted of corruption suffer a long loss of financially and even embarrassment of a long time actually? And can it work? That's what I said before. Right now it's quite difficult to what do you convict somebody on corruption unless the conviction goes through economic crime the way it's mentioned. Because anybody who is taken to court over corruption the penal code or all these laws refer that to an economic crime and that is the only point they can use to refer. But that's what I said. There is elaborate measures to deal with that if. So when we are able to describe corruption as a public theft then we know how to deal with it. The penal code is very clear on how to deal with somebody who is a stolen from the public coffers. Well comparatively like we are mentioning our history denotes that these has been here with us since independence and it's something that is embedded in our culture. Because like my colleague has mentioned consciously or unconsciously we socialize our children to corruption. When you send them to a shop you give them kaperimende. And you see we never realize that at that level we are bringing up a generation who would require to be you know. But I think that is appreciation. No. Why would you appreciate a child for sending him or her on something that would be helped. No. You would want to bring it differently. So this is why I'm saying it's so helpful. It's the way we are brought up unconsciously we are socialized to corrupt activities. And it takes a lot of time for us to undo or to relearn some of these behaviors. But then I was just thinking loud when it comes to our... And I wish that would be very brief because I'm told you are out of time. Probably we started late. But then Mujiri has made some proposals. The countries where you see you've had people's hands chopped off. Countries like in Arabian countries. When you just there is an evidence of awareness about it. Some even resigned even before. And you've had countries where even just a train derails. Before even call for a public inquest the minister of transport resigned automatically taking that responsibility. Our country needs a bulldozer. A bulldozer for a leadership and as a president is the way we are seeing it in Tanzania. When it comes to corruption we need somebody to bulldoze. But if we are taking time being alphabetic and being fabrication about corruption. It's a long time. Lastly we cannot forget this is youth television. It is young people who are suffering the burden of corruption. Why would you follow young people defaulting on help? But we have gone a lot of billions and billions that have gone the drain from the coffers. It is sincere. It is really one of things that we really don't expect in this country. Many thanks. We are out of time. Many thanks for coming and sharing your opinions and sentiments on how we should fight corruption. They have been my guest Daniel Orogo and Gunjeri Kariuki, both political analysts. My name is Dereva Hilary. Coming up next is Waimashariki. Stay tuned. I'll see you on Friday. Have a good night.