 Welcome to the ITU Plenty Potentiary Conference 2022, PP22 here in the wonderful Bucharest, Romania, where I've got the great pleasure of being joined in the studio today by Sabin Shamas, who is the chair of PP22. Sabin, welcome to the studio. Thank you very much for the invitation, Rex. Now, good to see you again. We're finally here in Romania at PP22, an event that we've been preparing for, we've been waiting for. And back in the studio in Geneva, we talked about PP22 and how you thought it was going to be. Now we're here, and it's definitely happening and underway. We've got thousands of delegates treading the esteemed halls of here, of the Palace of the Parliament in Bucharest. It's the second largest public building in the world. How has it compared to your expectations and how has your experience as chair of such an important event been so far? When it comes to my country, I'm very demanding. And I have very high expectations. But I have to admit that what my colleagues from the other institution managed to prepare here for all the thousands of delegations that are here in Romania is beyond my expectation. So they did a great job in outstanding in mind. And you can see this in the eyes of the delegates which are here in the building every day. Regarding my feeling as a chairman, how do I feel? We started well. We started very well the conference in a very successful manner and this is very important because a good start is going to increase the chances of having a very successful conference here in Romania. But this is not only because of the first two days. It's because of the preparation process we had in the last year. I mean, me, my team in Romania and all the member states that joined the interregional meetings, interregional dialogue that work in different groups in the previous conferences we had all around the world like WTDC or WTDA. So it's like a prize at the end of the road. It's an achievement we are going to have together because we worked a lot in the last year. That's why I'm very confident and that's why we had such a good start because we prepared for the start. Let's hope that the conference will stay the same and we'll have a very successful one, as I said. You mentioned the delegates. Obviously you've been in a lot of conversations here. I wanted to find out what's the feedback beam like that you've received so far? They are impressed, honestly. I'm not that surprised because we are in the biggest civilian building in the world and it's a palace. It's not just a building, the biggest one, but it's a palace. I'm very lucky to have the office in this palace and they are impressed by the venue and this is influencing the way that people are behaving in the end because the atmosphere is a very good one. They are impressed by how we managed to organize everything here and also about the openness of the other delegations to have a good dialogue, to have a very productive dialogue, to start the work early, to start to manage our time in a wisely manner so we'll have the time to enjoy when it's normal and even late in the evening, maybe the city or maybe enjoy a bit of Romania during the weekend which should be a normal thing during the conference. They are prepared to work hard during the night if it's needed but we'll try to be as efficient as possible with the time we have. The vibe is very good both related to how the things are organized but also with how the conference started and how much openness we can find at any country that is present here. It's true because you mentioned Romania. Quite often you go to conferences like this and all you ever see is the inside of a building. However, here we have got an amazingly massive building that people can't see here. The studio is actually this incredible chandeliers here in the ceiling here and the studio has been built within these large spaces but I wanted to ask you about the ICT sector here in Romania. Do you think that the ICT sector will be affected by this conference and if so how? You cannot imagine how much interest raised this conference here in Bucharest. It is true that it was on the very last mile when the conference started actually but now everybody is asking on the social networks on the internet in general how can I attend? It's not possible unfortunately for everybody even if we organize a side event for Romanian industry that's a parliamentary and private sector forum where we are going to have a dialogue between a public sector and a private sector with international residents representation here but the sector in general they started to ask ICT about which are the opportunities how can we engage, this is huge we never had in Romania something like that before not in the ICT sector but in general I mean having 193 countries being represented here the present is somewhere above 180 if I'm right but having such a great event in Romania it's something that will stay in the memory of the people in Romania not only ICT sector for a long time. And I think Romania itself will hopefully stay in their memories too I'm sure that they will have hopefully an opportunity to explore the country now that they're here or at least the city and all the wonderful things it has to offer but certainly the conversations here are extremely important and thank you very much for helping us be here and we look forward to catching up with you at the end of the conference as well. Sure and it's our real pleasure to have you here and we are so happy when we see how confident are people about the success of this conference and how happy are they about and surprised about Romania and Bucharest. Stepan Cermas, the chair of the ICT Platypus Energy Conference 2022 thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much.