 Because I know Nate usually does. Yeah. So the meeting is now being recorded. Call to order. Yo, do you have anything to start? I had a few conversations with Nate. About tonight's meeting. He called. He called. We had, we spoke this afternoon. Okay. Do you want to go ahead or should I go? I'll leave it to you. You'll type in if I have any details. Yeah. So I'm typically by this time, Nate has guidelines from, oh, here he comes from here. We were just starting. So you can jump in. From DHCD about the process. And today he hasn't received any information. So I'm going to let Nate take it away. Hey, everyone. Sorry. I'm on two Zoom meetings at once. It's pretty exciting. Life can't get much better. I think two Zoom meetings at the same time. So the, um, yeah, you know, for people in the audience. So, you know, DHCD had said. That they would have guidance documents out in January. And I thought they'd have them out by now, but they haven't issued anything regarding the 2021 process. So. You know, I spoke with Gail today. This afternoon. I think the best thing to do is just to wait a few weeks to have this meeting. So, you know, I wouldn't want the committee to. You know, I think it's a great discussion of prioritizing recommendations and proposals when the city might change something. They haven't indicated one way or the other. They. You know, I asked my program rep last week, and they still said to use last year's guidance documents. And so we follow the process pretty exactly. It's just. You know, they have, because they haven't issued anything. I just. I would out of caution. I wouldn't want to do something and then have, you know, the state come back and say, well, actually you could fund more social services because of COVID. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you could make that change, right? And they might. Have some small change that we haven't taken into account. So. Just to be cautious. I would. You know, if everyone listening to say we could wait a few weeks until the state has issued their guidance documents, and then we could meet again. You know, there was a round table discussion with communities this week. And some communities haven't even started their process yet. They're assuming that DHC is going to push the whole thing back by a few months. So I, you know, I'd like to wait. See what they do. It's, it's somewhat disappointing because. We still don't have our 2020 grant award either. So, you know, usually we get that in the fall. And we haven't even received an announcement yet. It's now mid January. So. They're quite behind. So typically we, you know, have this timeline that's based on. The final date at which you need to get everything into the state. Correct. And I don't remember what that date is typically been in the past. So usually it's all like the third week in February. It's range anywhere from like Valentine's Day to the end of February. I think last year it may have been. Like the 21st or, you know, somewhere around there. So. You know, on the, this round table discussion earlier this week. You know, communities were saying that even if the city said that they would follow a similar timeline, how can they, they haven't even made a grant announcement yet. Right. They're like, so how do communities even prepare an application if they haven't. Provided that, you know, that timeline. So. I think some communities are anticipating that the deadline for the application to the state may be pushed back, you know, two or three months. You know, I think we have a really good process. So even if we have to wait a few weeks, I feel like we've done the public input. We've had our. Request for proposals. And so we can. You know, if we ever need to change something, I feel like we could make a pretty small change too. If we have to, you know, Change a review criteria or something, or if they. If the state comes back and says, here are the priorities. You know, we've already done the. You know, I think we have a really good process. So even if we have to wait a few weeks, I feel like we've done the public input. We've had our. We've had our priorities. You know, we've already done the. Solicited the request for proposals. So I don't, you know, if they really lengthen the deadline, we could reconsider. Do we open up the proposal process again? Or are we satisfied with what we've done? I think that would be a town, the town and the committee would discuss how that could work out. And that may depend on the timing too. If you hear something next week. Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, I mean, I mean, then maybe the timing doesn't change that much, but it does take a couple of months. Then who knows, right? Right. Yeah. I mean. They did send an email out. Like I said, my program reps and an email out, I emailed her last week and she seemed to. See, she indicated that something should be coming by the end of the month. So, you know, my thought is we get, you know, they post something in a week or two, and then we have this meeting in three weeks. So we could anticipate and then, you know, hopefully by then we'll, we can just go through the process. So we don't even need to hold the January 28th date at this point, or we should continue to hold that. No, I wouldn't hold it. Yeah. Yeah, no, I apologize. They had said originally that they would have information out in January. And so I was, I was optimistic they'd have it out by this meeting. So then, you know, we could, we could understand what they're looking for. I blame you, Nate. Just, just close. Somebody needs to be blamed. You know, I just wanted you to have the proposals and get your, your rankings in and then fill the beans. I don't want to do that. Getting your homework done and then there's no quiz. It's like a snow day. I think we could, I mean, we could, I'll call up a calendar. If we think. I mean, we could just say, you know, for instance, like there's February 2nd to Tuesday. I mean, we could say that first week in February, the second week, and we could just schedule something. And then it'd be. You know, I could email everyone and let them know. We could wait two weeks before sending a notification out. So, you know, I'd post it online. I'd email them. I'd email them. So we could try to set a date now. I don't know what, what works for people. You know, we said the second week in February, that's the 8th through the 12th. If there's. You know, a certain day that works better or. Any day that week works for me, the week before is not so great for me, but that week is fine. Sure. We could try the week of eight. I just can't do the 11th. All right. That's a Thursday. Is the ninth good for people that Tuesday. Ninth works for me. I'm. They're both fine for me. So this is just sort of, we're just penciling this date in. It's tentative. Just. Given the fact that we don't know when you're going to hear. Right. Right. Yeah. This, this way, if they do. Issue some documents in the next two weeks. And it seems like we're okay to move forward. Right. You know, we could just, I could confirm that date over email and then post it online and let everyone know. And I talked to Nate today. He's going to get back to the applicants just to let them know that there's been a. That our work is delayed because. The guidelines haven't been put out yet, but set forth. So we did our work. It's just. We're reliant on the guidelines. When we do. The meeting. Will you share the rank. The compilation of the rank orders with us in advance, or do we just see it at the meeting? Usually if, you know, I would share it a little bit in advance and we'd at least have at the meeting. So, you know, I can share the screen and you can see. See the order yet. Great. Yeah. I mean, at this point, you know, we did. Like I said, I think, you know, we had inquiries from a number of organizations that ended up not submitting proposals for, say, social services. Or capital projects. So there was opportunity for, you know. More proposals to be submitted. We, you know, we did go through that process. So. Even if it's delayed by a few weeks, I feel comfortable with the process we've had. I think, you know, the question would be if the HD really delays this application. What, I mean. Some communities, I think thought, think that maybe it's going to be pushed back until like May. Which would be extremely late. It's never been do that late before. So. You know, I'm anticipating maybe they push it back a few weeks. And then I think we'd be fine. If they really say, you know, they push it back by months. You know, I think that's a discussion. We could have with the committee. You know, what's, what's the, you know, what's the process to. Move forward then if they really delay it that much, but. And do you, in your experiences, that's not something that you would likely know by our next meeting, for example, or it has nothing like this ever happened before. So there's no experience to draw on. Yeah, this is unprecedented that it's been this, I think it's a combination of COVID. They've been really busy working with that. And then I think the HUD audit has really slowed them down. So, you know, they can't make any actions or take any actions until HUD approved their five year plan. And typically that would have happened. Like in July or August, maybe September. So for it not to be approved, until now is really late. So I think, I think HUD took. It's really scrutinizing states. And, you know, divisions that get block grant money. So, you know, because of that too, it makes me wonder the state has said that they're not going to make big changes, but what a pod recommends changes. To the program. And so then they have to implement them. You know, in the, in the 21. Grant round. So. Although they've said not to worry. It's just, I, you know, I realized this week that I just, I, you know, I would, I would feel bad for the committee and for the applicants if we went through the whole process. And then, you know, two weeks from now, the issue guidance documents that contradict what we've done or say we need to do something differently. But this has never happened before. I mean, this is really late. You know, in the last 10 years, it's always been due to, you know, unfortunately right around now. So everyone has to submit proposals around the holidays and then work really hard. At the summer year. Okay. So great. We'll, we'll look to hear from you that you'll confirm the February meeting. And did we, did we say the ninth, right? Very nice. Yeah. I just want to say, I said tonight today that, um, you know, I think I'm the, um, or one of the old timers in the group that the responses to the questions from the agencies were, I thought were really comprehensive. There was a lot of detail and well done. And that, that's kind of new for us is to send out these questions. Before we meet to make decisions. And I was impressed with the way that the responses came in. I don't know. And I, anybody else felt the same way, but it was, I don't know, I thought there was a lot of good work on the side of the agencies. I also thought it made the process a little more fair because, um, There were some things that they could address rather, you know, straightforwardly that, you know, we had a scene in the application. And so giving them a second chance to come back. I think levels of playing field a bit. Now the hard work begin, we'll begin because we on five agencies, five, five, you know, projects. So we'll see. But maybe DHC, you'll change their mind and make our work easier. Yeah. I had no promises, but yeah, it'd be nice if they did. No, no thought. Nate that, um, the change in administration, new HUD secretary and appointees coming in is going to. Make any difference or that's not a part of it. Um, you know, this money is for next federal fiscal year. So, you know, they would probably say it's not a part of it, but maybe, right? Maybe they're anticipating, you know, is there. You know, they were assuming probably level funding, you know, and program, you know, and programmatically it wouldn't change. So maybe, you know, maybe they are considering, well, what if, what if budgets are cut a little bit or, you know, maybe because of COVID, what if they're still need to be redirected to certain priorities. And so. You know, the state hasn't said anything about that, but it could be part of the consideration now. You know, knowing that. You know, I think the effects from this pandemic will still be felt, you know, so I think, you know, I could see where they might change priorities for next year. And really push certain things, but. It's without having, you know, any guidance right now. I'm not really sure what they would do. Okay. All right. Thank you. Yeah. Sorry about that. I was hoping. I was hoping. I was hoping that have something out by now. So I, you know, for the committee and those in attendance, I. You know, you can have a short meeting tonight. You can have a quick evening. That means you can get back to your other meeting. Yes. Yeah. It's on my, I have another screen. And it's still going on. All the scores come in today eventually. I think so. I, um, I'll let people know if I, if I, I think, I think they did. Okay. Yeah. So thanks everyone. I know that's a lot of work for the committee to read and. You know, to make recommendations or rankings. All right. So we'll just. Hang out and wait until we hear back from you. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, it's been, I think, I don't know if you can see who's in the audience, but I'm assuming there are people there who can hear this. And then we can just email out to all the applicants. Tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. Good to see everyone. You too. Yeah, blame me. You can all blame me to blame. I need to blame. Look at zoom free evening. My gosh, I'll take that anytime. Thank you. I didn't even know there was something to blame for. And I was blaming. Take care, folks. Yeah. Everyone. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.