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Wow and to do so I want to sing a cappella for a second it worked and we are doing a movie review and since it is February I don't know if I'm doing official romance month but we are going to do romance films and so obviously today we are doing a review of the I guess it would be qualified as a romance film yes Lamhe well I think it qualified why were you doubting there's a gray area here what else would it be psychological thrill but anyways obviously we're doing the 1991 great year by the way Lamhe directed by Yash very unknown actor most I mean director most most people are unfamiliar with produced by him I'm now I also wanted to get to some romance films that he directed as well and I know we've seen some but since he has that big romance kind of series coming out that we are pretty excited for I wanted to get some more films so we can get a lot more references and that kind of stuff yeah produced directed by him screenplay by honey irani and dialogue by Rahi Rahi Masum Reza and starring once again a couple of unknowns Anokabor Shredevi and Anapankar everywhere a whole heap of other people but anyways obviously it came out in 1991 if you haven't watched it we saw it on Amazon you can go watch it come back I think a lot I mean this is it's kind of a cult classic a lot of people know of this film yeah quite a bit but if you haven't watched it go watch it come back because it'll be a spoiler filter big time big time your initial thoughts please Rick well there's a lot that we're going to talk about but my biggest takeaway from this is probably one of the greatest lines in cinematic history cut which is don't hit a retarded child please I'm gonna bleep that out why it's on it's in the movie I'm aware it's so uncomfortable it's it's so awful speaking of which this is probably one of the single greatest compilations of putrefying horrendous you had a split second to just say something awful white acting in the history of all cinema on the planet sometimes they even say anything no they ruined it right it just saw the back of their head and you knew oh god please don't say anything but and they ruined it just not saying anything exactly at all seriousness this is one of the most excruciating movies I've actually ever liked yeah it's it's I this is a very it's a very interesting film and I think the most interesting part is the dialogue you kind of have to have because oftentimes I often say I was like we don't judge films off of our modern-day lens but sometimes it's a little difficult yeah based off of some scenarios but also the there's a whole different aspect of just the filmmaking and the beauty and the the well-made-ness of a film as well that I will talk about but then there's also the I would call it semi-problematic problematic it's some people don't think so as well well that's just subject matter yeah there's also some glaringly hideous moments when it comes to acting and everybody okay the one who has it the least is Shredevi yeah and then and El Capour but pretty much what one of my favorite things and it's just the standard of the day and it just drives me crazy is how many times people are directed to say their line into the middle distance yeah but you know just them so I was talking to them and I told them that I would tell them about the days that I remember so long ago when I was a child back at the river you remember those days when we used to walk along the sand and it's just how it was yeah but on a pump curse should we start with him yeah movie so we'll get into the the subject matter and a little bit then we'll talk about the filmmaking like we normally do first yeah I think the most interesting part is actually the the subject matter and what some people think would be problematic some people don't think it's problematic the biggest issue I have with the film is the age difference how how is an age difference like that ever gonna work between two oh wait I don't know I don't think it's the I don't think it's particularly the age difference as opposed to all the haters who told me that and Ronnie and I would never yeah anyways but yeah let's get into the the acting the story first but actually I will get to an on a pump current a second yeah we will how can you not the most on a pump curve ever seen oh but he was more on a pump curve than on a pump cur that's I want to talk about the our two leads first yeah I especially enjoyed them but Shredevi first and foremost obviously she's a phenomenal actress India loves dual roles more than oh yeah any country I've ever seen in India they just they love their stars have two characters I knew played by the same actor in a movie when she died which I loved I was like oh cool she died but she's not gone no she will be back hour 45 oh yeah how are they gonna bring her back but she will be back absolutely absolutely but I especially in the first hour I was her just beauty was just dripping what okay my word is one of the most gorgeous women what technically would you say the color of her eyes are are they light brown or hazel brown they are stars yeah they're like almost a color I've never seen yeah they're her her her eye color is just magnetic she uh she has she I equate her like to like a zaudition now in terms of like zaudition has these massive massive eyes right and that's one of one of the attributes attributes about her but man she obviously in the beginning when she was just in you know dancing and in the in the Rajasthani traditional clothing and she was just I mean the entire film she was gorgeous but especially that first hour when it was adult Shredavi or I mean I guess they're both technically adults right yeah but mom Shredavi right she was just so gorgeous like it's just you just it's almost like when you sit there but different though like when a shari or rise on screen yeah my god yeah it's must be easy for this director yeah and it must be easy for every leading man I just like one of my complements of Anil Kapoor is I believe 100% he's in love with her oh yeah well how can you not look at Shredavi and just be flabbergasted because she's such a beautiful beautiful lady and I thought outside of obviously when she was like directed to you know yeah obviously it's it's just the it's the time of the day and and like when they want them to act like a little childish it's always like so different to how you know people in the West would do certain scenes but it's very different very common as well you got to have that you have to have those you know what it's like watching Indians particularly Hindi cinema of this day and age you have to have a particular lens on to appreciate it for what it is or you're gonna not enjoy the experience in the same way that if you went into a 3d film without the glasses on you're just gonna be annoyed yeah you have to have a certain perspective to appreciate yeah I thought I don't think this film is totally that because I think there's a lot of good things about this film in terms of like how it was directed and yeah the weaving this of the story and all that but I thought Shredavi did a very good job I thought Anil Kapoor also it was so funny in the beginning he looks so young I know younger than mr. India yeah he lived without the very he was like but like he's a very subdued actor obviously but then obviously there were times as well that white was his character slap happy yes people had a problem with cutter sing but and it was amazing in memory sometimes it was a backhand sometimes it was a forehand I loved the fact that they made a song song about the slap and this her flash dance moments yeah yeah I loved it I was like oh this is like a footloose like yeah yeah angry yeah I did love it moment but then they incorporated the slaps into the over and over which I thought was a lot of fun the songs in this were gorgeous yeah songs are my some of my favorite I wouldn't I mean I I would have been shocked if the songs weren't gorgeous of course just the time of Bollywood the word I've know about this film we see we saw one song when she was given them that glob glob 9000 in the I saw it again yep she was and I also appreciated in the score we had the main theme but there were also variations on the theme throughout the film where you would hear it but it was either changed by tempo yeah we're even changed melodically so it sounded more positive and then yeah it was really nice I 100% believed in Okapur it fell in love with her yeah immediately yeah which is not surprising you could put any man I guess in that or woman in that scenario and they probably would have fallen in love with Shredevi yeah because of how gorgeous she is right yeah and I so I believe there I believe that this young girl was infatuated with him yes creepily so once again yes and she was five so we'll get into that yeah I know couple man there was a moment where someone said how can you tolerate this man and I thought it's really hard it's it's getting really hard for me to tolerate this man we've seen Anil Kapoor and it you mean Anupam Kuru Anupam Kuru sorry in many films be to this style like this yes and we've all seen be very subdued and it's he's I think of a very versatile time sometimes this stuff works really well but I think it's more when this works when everybody else is on his level yeah like in a cabica or whatever the SRK film said he's in right and that right dad right this he was like so drastically above everyone else yeah there was no just shocking to me there wasn't anything charming about it to me in the same way that there is like in DDLJ and things of that nature yeah there wasn't any charm it was just oh good grief somebody tell this guy to ratchet down and that's coming from a New York Italian loud improv comedic guy yeah thinking good grief this hurts do you remember in Harvest you remember Paula Roche yeah yeah oh yeah sorry that's a very personal you know absolutely Paula Roche he's an Anupam Kuru he was a local theater actor that he was in our church yeah and he's very sweet very similar yeah in terms of acting style yes but yeah he was the most like I mean he brought it down at some points and I was like okay especially at the end the last 30 minutes he this is nice there here take it on a boom and obviously I know that was his character I know he was directed to do that yeah but it was just written that way it was like hey it was like a show a punch to the face he gets credit for going all in at the end the whole time because one of the things you want no matter what the genre is one of the things you want your actors to bring if you're the director and the writer and the cast you want them to come in with way more yeah and have them bring it down rather than try to draw something out of them yeah he he brought it all man this is not by unleashed not by Anupam Kuru but there's another obviously the first line that you said which was so I took a picture of it I took a picture of two lines that line that you said because it's just people used it all the time back in the day Hollywood everywhere in regular life and it's just and looking now in 2023 it's like oh my god but it didn't mean any back then I can vouch for this cut being alive in that era at a time when it was used all the time yeah you would call somebody retarded as but because the only definition we had for people at the time who suffered from any kind of what at the time was called mental retardation yeah it was a standard to call somebody retarded it didn't carry the level of yeah insult that it should have yeah as it does today I'm sorry picture that but there's also a line that she Debbie says that when she's talking to honor pump curse would be wife right and she says why are you so emotional she says I'm in that was a great moment I also thought it was written pretty well that moment where they're having the meal or the vanilla ice cream she said he was just straight up she was vicious I was like oh I'm scared of you yeah and but I did it with a smile she did just cold she was like it was and then I guess we could get into some of the obvious I love the the overall score like I said before and it's beautiful I think a lot of the way it was weaved because I thought it was gonna almost be a Casablanca situation in the beginning of yeah it's gonna be like a love triangle right me too interesting right she died he died everybody yeah right it's just so interesting how Indian films just do like you're dead and then how people die also I also this is this is just not good writing but it's kind of endearing for the time where the way you propel the story forward is not just exposition in the opening about hey we've been here for three days and now we all know you've been there for three days but this hello you lost the case losing everything yes in with matter of 60 seconds yeah you gotta you gotta push the story gotta push the three-hour film it took them 60 seconds to do that every was still alive this moment chance to kill her and that was fast too they kill like oh like oh she's she's got oh she was in car crash she yeah he's dead yeah you lost the place what do you want to save the baby or her no save her baby's fine she's dead and the antagonists who get the place we don't know why they won the case maybe her dad did something really heinous and that's why he lost the case yeah we don't know when they show up they're obviously they're practically twiddling their mustaches yeah give us our property yeah it was almost I think was it from the bad guys from what's that dragon movie how to train your dragon no no no the green the green dragon is an old film oh not puff the magic dragon why am I forgetting never ending story that's not a dragon no no no it's an animated dragon oh but everybody else is real oh Pete's drag each dragon yeah the villains and that I forget what their names are I don't remember I asked if their names in the very similar to the yeah the maniacal right so let did you find the story at all problematic any part of it problematic there was a part where there's two things I had particularly the love story yeah yeah yeah here's one thing I had a problem with was another freaking Kashi what Anita man here's another woman loving a guy for years and he just ditches her even though she was totally in love and dedicated to the guy granted you shouldn't good grief grant obviously he shouldn't have pulled her along if he wasn't in love with it exactly that's his fault but that's what I mean she was the Kashi in this don't marry somebody because they love you obviously but don't pull them along either no if there's one thing I had that was problematic for me it was I didn't feel and again look at the film in the time and the kind of film that it is I didn't feel like there was something anything in the script that really did give me a justification for him saying he truly did only love her for her I think that was an entire crock of crap at the end yeah yeah he loved her because she reminded me of her mom yeah that period and I was versus loving her for her I was struggling with once I had the film ended and I wish it it didn't and that's I'm not gonna fault the film for it it I kind of I knew how it was gonna end oh god they're gonna be together they're gonna be together of course but I didn't want it because I was liking how the dynamic of I was like okay Anil Kapoor obviously loved Shredevi he's struggling with the fact that she looks very cool but I was believing him I was like I don't think he loves you right I think he was like he's the idea he loves the idea he's like you look like the person I love right you are not right you also I saw you grow up right which is there's like age difference obviously doesn't really mean anything to me obviously as you as long as your adults right it's like exactly as long as you have adults the issue with the gray area I would say lies in like let's say this is the scenario I saw your granddaughter right grow up right and then once she turned 18 we got together right that's a little strange yeah right yes okay yeah that's that's the problematic part I'm like that's that adds a level of strangeness to it it would be not it's not Woody Allen no right obviously that's point that's a different that's a different thing level right of weirdness because obviously he wasn't her father and obviously she didn't really see him as a father figure but he did see her grow up she and it's not bad for her really to be in love with an older person that's very common for Gary common to believe oh I love this man he's like yeah I want to marry my dad when I'm older kind of thing obviously right and so that's not really the strange part but like if I was to like yeah and then I'd not date her when she was younger but then once she turned 18 she showed interest in me and you'd question how long have you shown interest in this little girl you absolutely right when did that light switch turn on so I guess I think they could have avoided all that and just ended it like with him going his own way and it's almost a tragic tragedy especially for Shredevi yeah and him thinking oh I could have been with this girl even though she wasn't actually her yeah that's how I was or even or even addressed it yeah I mean again it's not that kind of film but I knew I was gonna end but had that been addressed in some way where one of the struggles he's having is that moral conundrum yes if you have a sense of propriety yeah the idea is gonna cross your mind yeah and you'll you'll justify yeah what even in an age difference yeah if you're honest you're going to address it for example my wife and I yeah the the moment we both realized we had been falling in love with each other mm-hmm it was a matter of days we were conversing about how realistic is this relationship yeah you're in India I'm in America that was one thing can we handle the long distance yeah number two age difference do you want children I want more children yeah I'm am I okay with the fact that I could be dead in 20 years mm-hmm is she okay with the fact that could be dead in 20 years you you are brutally honest about that stuff yeah granted it's not the kind of movie no it would have been nice to have seen it I thought someone see the end was very rushed like in terms of them like it happened in the last five minutes right he had a very quick turnaround of yeah no you know what actually you don't smell like her you don't you don't really want her to make me feel like her yes I honestly probably would have preferred it to like you could have I could have I could cut this movie without adding anything to end correctly and it could have been like hours is rough he got yeah yeah that's it but again from this time yeah it could have how I would have preferred it to end once again I'm not taking away from the film this show how why after watching it I think this could have even been a better movie ending this way because you and you leave people with like questions and longing and something what I wanted you tell me what you wanted at the end and I have I had a very could have said he married her whether he did or not means no nothing to me you could speculate as the audience whether he did and then the end her giving that speech at the doing like almost the play kind of thing I think that would have been a perfect ending okay just ended we're on the same page I think that would have been perfect here's what I was hoping for but knew it wasn't gonna happen yeah I knew it wasn't gonna happen he's telling her no I see a different gleam in your eye you smell different that whole nine yards she didn't have any facial change he says I love you yeah no facial change he extends his arms no facial change she starts walking up to him I wanted her to slap and say you're deceiving yourself yeah and you're playing with my emotions yeah and it end with the heartbreak of could they have ever been together yeah that would have been great too and if she had said the monologue there after slapping him that would have been epic for me yeah but you knew it was gonna end now yeah it's you're together all everything's great old-school Bollywood of course you knew it was gonna end up together it's just yes the standard fare of the day if they have to have you happy in the end absolutely and if you don't think this film is probably like you can let us know why you don't think it's problematic at all whether you because I posted it on patreon right after I finished the film I was like just finished it I'm gathering my thoughts of what I think about it do you think this film is at all problematic yes explain why no explain why I got over a hundred comments of people both ways explaining if they think it's but it's problematic or if it's not problematic at all but there's two aspects of it I'm interested in which of the ones they considered because obviously you and I find the aspect of he's known her since childhood yeah not necessarily the age gap yeah no that makes no difference to me me too I like I'm interested to know how many people have a problem with just the age gap itself yeah I mean there are people that will be people of course that but I mean if he just met this random person that he had never met before who looks like her which looks like her hasn't she done a film where she's probably yeah we've seen a film where she's done that and she was like an 18-year-old woman our role as long as she's an adult and they met at his age and her as a legal adult right and but they didn't know each other as children he didn't like see her grow up right I wouldn't have had an issue right I was like okay you're too contending adults you guys do what you'd like to know it to me I thought about that and it's still this morning before I came here I thought if Indrani had died and had a kid that grew up and looked like her it'd be it'd be really weird but granted you've also been dating Indrani she never I never loved never never returned but even still yeah it's that it's still a gray area I can't think of any ex I've had who if they had a kid grew up and looked like them I wouldn't be a little weirded out on myself by the fact that I was yeah liking them it's problematic it's a minimum of gray area right minimum at minimum so you guys got I think the conversation is fun though to for a film like this to stir up yeah I think that's that's good for a film to do as opposed to like oh yeah that's that's standard fair kind of right film I thought it was very interesting I enjoyed the film I think it's a good film yeah even for all of the pain yeah I still what held it together for me was her yeah like so many films we see where it's there's a there's a lone actress who's just holding it all together and that was this should never use the next aspect of that was I for the most part enjoyed a nil in this yeah yeah yeah and I even as dreadful as it is I kind of have this guilty pleasure would be like I don't eat fruit loops or Captain Crunch for breakfast but if there might be this one or two times a year I might just venture out and just have it just to have it and that's how I feel about I don't occur granted though he's gonna like we saw I think it was a really good performance in that year he's a solid actor in that ran beer film right yeah and no no no he's a solid actor and I thought we thought he did a good job in yes he did a very I think he's probably the strongest performance very grounded no he's a solid obviously doing what he was told to do especially for the 90s yeah like I said he he gave it all yeah he did yeah anyways let us know what you thought about the film which we are next kind of romance film from yash I say yash it makes me think of KGF yes Chopra specifically and I know Kapoor and treat it I know they did quite a few films together yes I think click 12 yeah I think so I don't know that exact number but I know that there's I can't remember anyways let us know what it should be down below