 Should this new Asian-American doll that is supposed to rival Barbie represent for all types of Asians? Why are why not? Let's talk about it. Yeah, this got controversial in the next shark Instagram section Andrew Obviously an Asian-American doll designed a rival, you know American girl or Barbie from silly to serious I'm definitely gonna put this in the silly lane firmly Andrew But there was some serious conversations that emerged from it, but long story short Andrew There is a entrepreneur that started Jilly Bing Asian-American dolls Andrew because she said that dolls are our children's first friend They also help make a child make sense of the world around them It makes a huge difference when the toys they interact with showcase real-life Images and customs that they are familiar with so long story short Andrew She saw the Asian-American dolls that Barbie or American girl put out and was disappointed She made her own but some people are debating it right and what is the major debate here? I guess I guess most people are not against this doll. I mean, I think that's good. Obviously dolls are representation It is a toy. It's a media. It's all these types of things that mean certain things to especially girls or and boys growing up But I guess like what's the what's the issue here? Well, I guess the main issue in the IG comments section Andrew It's certain sort of turned into a how come East Asians are the only Asians that get to be part of Asian-American representation But then a lot of people were arguing being like but she's Chinese-American and it's her own company Right, of course, she's gonna make it in her likeness Well, it's because people saw the doll and the doll was representing Essentially an East Asian girl like a Chinese girl right and obviously the woman who's creating it is Chinese-American So of course, she's making the doll in her likeness now She only has one doll out right right She does have plans to create other dolls But just the fact that this sparked into a gigantic thread where people were going back and forth It does reveal something that is a deeper discussion in the Asian-American Honestly, I have seen a lot of comments recently I think particularly from Southeast Asian people and these are just comments on the internet not that people are not that every Southeast Asian person feels this way exactly But there is a lot of like hey, how come East Asians whenever they do something that is supposed to represent Asian-Americans It's always very East Asian focused very Chinese Korean Which is a fair question. No, let's talk about it And the next issue that got brought up in a lot of serious stuff that got brought up from the silly topic Andrew It's who cares about dolls Do we need Asian-American dolls to feel whole and why do we put our self-worth in something that's not even a part of our culture? Because in Asia, I guess girls don't really grow up playing with dolls as much Maybe the Philippines is the one exception. Oh, why? No, they just have more American culture of playing I'm saying in Eastern culture. They don't traditionally play with dolls, right, right? It's well, it's not or especially I would say hyper realistic dolls Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then of course last but not least who's actually to blame some people were like well Asians only make up six percent So why are you coming crying saying our whole society's racist just because we don't got dolls that look like you? Interesting. Yeah, okay. All right. Let's get in the comment section because there are a lot of different thoughts Real quick Andrew. I got to show the Korean tan doll that she was dissatisfied with from American girl, right? This is the Jilly Bing right here and boom. I got to hit you at the end with the Barbie representation Andrew This is Renee Chow apparently an ABG. Yo, though. I don't know. Are those supposed to be Asian Barbies They look like Italian girls from Jersey Shore. No, no these don't look like full-on ABGs I would say this is the new glamour like Laguna Beach ABG archetype. I've been starting to see in 2023 Oh, this girl looks like a skater kind of like whitewash Asian girl. Anyways, let's get into the comment section Someone said are there American American dolls in China, huh? How come there aren't like are there just like why would we have Chinese dolls in America? Well, yeah I mean obviously America's an immigrant country and prides itself on that not every country does so I think there is some entitlement and Expectations somebody says this is so great. You got to make people feel good in their own skin These are sort of the ones basically like saying, you know, you saw a void in the market You saw a problem you attacked it good for you, right? Okay? I mean, I think that that's right Right like if you see something and you're a small-time entrepreneur you can fill that void Yeah, I mean dude if there's a market for more authentic Asian food You open up a more authentic Asian restaurant make sense This guy said, you know, I'm white and I support the existence of this but it's not because watts are super racist against Asians It's just because Asians only make up 6% of the population. Why would you have a bunch of dolls that look like you? Yeah, I think from the economic standpoint How much does it cost to change the Barbie dolls to look more Asian and what's the market for Asian American kids to buy dolls? I mean who knows but maybe this this woman's trying to make this doll to slip in there and that becomes the Barbie for all Asian American women Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that's the hope she said cute But how come they only care about diversity when one doll represents one Asian ethnicity? What about Filipino and Indians this doll does not visually represent us Maybe they should have waited in this and releasing this and released like three dolls or more dolls beforehand Because Joey dolls released various ethnicities at once. So it made all the Asians feel represented to some degree I was kind of offended by this Okay, so I do see what she's saying in the sense like if you're gonna peg yourself as making the Asian American doll And then it's only one doll and the doll clearly looks more East Asian I do think it's fair for people to ask and be like, hey, are you launching other Asian dolls? Or is this just the Chinese American doll? Should you just call it Chinese American doll? And if she just called it this is the first Chinese American doll Then would she even be in trouble because that would be completely accurate, right? Some people were saying well, she has to start somewhere and it's a very small business probably with limited capitalization So how could she launch like a full line? She actually does have some drawings of other types of Asians South Asians Southeast Asian I believe she has some biracial dolls as well But some people doubted her someone said nope You will never see her launch a company or make dolls of other races I believe that was from like a Polynesian girl kind of like there's some doubt I guess in some of the lesser represented Asian worlds And I'm not saying it's from everybody but from certain people that the East Asians care about them Oh, you're saying that they doubt that a lot of the East Asians with the power are actually going to help them be represented Right, right, right because the East Asians they feel invisible To relative to I guess white people or black people But then Southeast Asians or Polynesians or you know other people that are even less visible within the Asian subgroups are like doubting them Well, here's the fact is that not all Asians care about other Asians Not all East Asians care about other East Asians Obviously as Chinese guys or East Asian guys we do a good job and we've grown up around all types of Asian people So we obviously try to include everybody's perspective and everybody's culture on our channel So I feel like we do a good job, but not everybody thinks like us Yeah, I would agree with that and you know, they don't necessarily have those life experiences in their toolkit or their composition I do agree with this though And do you agree with me that the creators of crazy rich Asians because they made so much money on that movie They probably could make a smaller indie movie that incorporates all the Asians to feel more inclusive, right? I'm not saying that they will I'm not asking everybody to be do it how I would do it You know what I mean because obviously everybody can make their own decisions with their own life and their own funding and their own Time however they want that's how just life works in general But I guess are people just gonna have to settle for being inspired by CRA But do the creators of something ultra profitable like CRA have any responsibility to the community to bring it all together in a Maloo I think there's a little bit of responsibility for sure There sure definitely is but I think as far as like giving a motion picture just for the sake of giving it out I feel like that would seem like charity and ultimately you need that project to be good So if there is a good Southeast Asian based story which there are out there Especially like books that are written about Southeast Asian lies that are really good I think pushing for those good stories is very important But yeah, I don't know about like just giving it for like you don't want to make it feel like charity I would even like to see the one for charity for me. That's how I think that's fair That's fair Somebody said before anybody complains about the price because the doll of Jilly being Andrews about $70 Look at how expensive American girl dolls are So basically people are like what so they're gonna be using the same Manufactured in China child-driven labor did she even care about diversity and someone says oh you didn't give a f about cheap China made products your whole life But now this first woman wants to create the Asian doll and now you all of a sudden care so much Hilarious debate hilarious debate someone wants to make an Asian doll and this is what it turns into yeah Somebody said I have no idea what's going on I used to play with Barbies when I was young and I never thought of the ethnicity of color and then of course some people got into this Some people got into that somebody said stop infantilizing women to act like they're so impacted by beauty standards But other people were arguing back by saying well, that's just biology women are impacted by the dolls that they play Yeah, and those beauty standards. So like I said Andrew silly to serious Jilly being it's such a silly thing, but it turned into some really serious arguments Funny is besides even just how Barbie actually looks because Barbie it's not clear I mean Barbie. There's some Asian people and non There's some Arabic Italian women who look like Barbie, you know different ethnicities woman with like I guess really large features in a Really small head that's like considered Barbie beautiful just looks like there's even some black women who look kind of like who have that shape of Barbie Right possibly a different skin color, but I think to me. It's a lot of Barbie's lifestyle That was very white. So to me. It's like her lifestyle was very blonde very Laguna Beach right may have influenced people, but I think nowadays with the amount of media and Art and movies and shows that we have now I do think dolls don't mean as much to a young woman's life That it would have been nice to have this Jilly Bing product and I'm not say go out check it out Jill would check out the website see if you like it or not, but like 10 years ago or maybe 20 25 years ago Like women our age that grew up with dolls before this whole media boom You're saying that that would have been even more impactful given the metrics of that It's not just Barbie and her blonde hair is Barbie in the pink car. It's Barbie's house. That's all pink It's Ken who's blonde these all run together. It's not just Barbie herself There was a very specific type of girl that I saw on my Instagram stories dress up in Small pink dresses and go see the Barbie movie. I'm just saying you guys tell me Somebody says Well, what do you guys think when you go to Asia and you look at the Asian dolls? They don't even look Asian either just like the animes do not look Asian They look more Western and somebody said no, they're not designed to look as Western they just look more abstract and somebody said no everybody knows that animes and Asian dolls look like abstract Western people so Asians are not even proud of how they look fundamentally This is a lot of this could be like a whole video on its own, right? Yeah Yeah, I am looking at some of these Asian dolls and they look pretty creepy. All right So what I have here Andrew is actually a traditional Japanese doll We used to actually have these in the crib. I remember our mom kind of grew up in Japan Then we also have a traditional Shinto doll from a temple Andrew Here we have the anime dollhouse like French, you know Prince tea house doll. Yeah, so I think they're probably depicting like European people. This is these two girls right here. Yeah, I don't know Yeah, it's tough to say man, but I get you know, that's like a whole Beauty standards, you know, um somebody said she should have looked to the wealth of pop culture in Asia and found the Internal piece that she needed why don't more Asian Americans do this I always watched everything from Asia from soap operas to musics and I never felt like I needed an Asian American version of anything This is a good debate right Andrew. Yeah, so what do you think man? She's saying, you know, I'm Korean I like watch just Korean dramas and listen to Korean music I don't even care if we get Asian American anything because I'm tapped into over there Well, other people they're not like that Right. Well, I think Koreans are in a particular situation Koreans have a lot of great content a lot of amazing Content that they can kind of submerse themselves into and Chinese probably do too to be honest It's not as great, but they have a lot of content wealth of it. Yeah, they have a wealth of content Vietnamese I would say have less to be honest that is accessible Philippines has some but it's probably not as Successful, I mean accessible. So I'm saying like not everybody's in that situation So not everybody has this gigantic hard drive to tap back into but not only that Andrew not everybody relates to it Yeah, I don't I'm not gonna tell a mother that has a daughter that like, yo, don't worry about a Southeast Asian doll Don't worry about getting a Filipino doll. It's not important. I'm not gonna say it's not important But I just don't think it's that important. You know what I mean? Yeah, like I just think there's a lot of other things that you could do somebody said Asians are almost a forgotten minority Efforts to be inclusive often exclude them. That's sad. We can do better and this guy said I'm Asian And I'd rather be forgotten in American site society than be treated like a minority In fact, I've never felt like a minority in my professional life because I work in academia and high-tech business I was the co-founder of a startup Basically, we you know Asians aren't a forgotten minority There are simply people in those fields and that's how I prefer it So this kind of goes to the thing about like Asian Americans depending on what you're raised and what fields you enter And you may not even feel like a person of color that needs to take The steps that a person of color needs to take to feel represented It's because some people were saying well, who's forgotten our Asians forgotten relative to the Western Milo Right to the flow of like the Western potluck But then who even within the Asians and this brings us back to our original discussion about East Asian versus like taekwadi Versus Southeast Asian versus Siberian versus Central Asians our South Asians evens included. Who's the forgotten of the forgotten? Fascinating I know what you mean like the Underrepresented of the underrepresented somebody said she won't be able to make it after two or three years I just checked her website statistics, and it only has 400 unique visitors a month. There's no way she can make enough money to get by What a comment man, maybe not. I don't know if it's not popular It's not gonna happen. I mean, I'll tell you this guys in the game of business Andrew There is nothing moral or immoral, right? It's just about product market fit your own marketing and your ability to get word of mouth out there and your own Internal business equations right like you have to ban it manage your cogs your cost of goods sold right right right? I mean I would say I mean good for her for making the doll It might not be fully successful, and it might just inspire some other people to do their own thing too You know all these things you never know It's that it's just one entrepreneur But maybe she could spark the mind of someone from another group that wants to do something or she she also represents everybody else Dolls and to that point Andrew do we even need this entire Asian American representation movement at all and different people have different answers Right, I have I have a feeling and I'll speak on this from a Chinese perspective I have a feeling that a lot of people are never going to be satisfied with the representation Almost to an extent like they'll almost never be satisfied until they get exactly what they want But I mean to a 10 out of 10 level like their vision Yeah, but I also think a lot of people don't know fully what they want, and they don't know fully what's going to work And what's very valuable, you know, but that's not to say you shouldn't speak up about it I think you should and you everybody can have your opinion I'm glad that this Filipino woman voiced her opinion Yeah, and everybody should leave that comment because ultimately a comment is just really meant to spark a discussion It's not really meant to move the needle per se, but yeah I mean I think it's good to discuss, but hopefully I just think it it just shows another Asian Entrepreneur, and I think that it will spark more Asian entrepreneurs to do their own yeah shout out to a jelly bean check out our website down below I think my final takeaway Andrew is that uh Asian Americans on their general metrics I'm not saying there's not a split between different groups or whatever But on the general metrics are doing pretty well in terms of family stability Income at least some middle-tier career success. I'm not gonna say obviously we've done cover the other articles Maybe the eight nine out of ten success and the ten out of ten success seems a little out of reach depending on what industry You picked but um there's just not a lot of Asian pop cultural representation Yeah, you know I mean and it's just like the pros and cons of our game plan Do you think we need to shift our game plan? Is it a mode now where we need to focus more on some of the soft power that we didn't accumulate? I don't know you guys let me know in the comments down below Let me know your thoughts on all this our dolls important And do you want do does one Asian product need to represent for all Asians? I mean it is tough, but maybe there should be some responsibility you guys let me know in the comments down below We are the hot pop boys and until next time we out. Peace