 Yeah, back on the Sports Mag Zone, it's been just over 24 hours since Elaine Thompson-Hira's management team confirmed her split from coach Shaniki Osborne. Recall now that Osborne started coaching the five-time Olympic gold medalist in July this year following her fifth place finish in the 100 meters at Jamaica's World Championship trials. The partnership was short-lived due to what her management team has described as excessive compensation demands. Now, we are joined live on the Sports Mag Zone by Darren Heerah. He is the husband of Elaine Thompson-Hira and a lot has been said about Darren Heerah in the social media space and I think just right across the country and many who have been following this story. Darren, first of all, it's a pleasure to have you on the Sports Mag Zone. Good afternoon. How are you doing? I'm good. Pleasure to be on. I'm trying to solve the problem as well. Yeah. Yeah, first of all, Darren, I've never seen you in a public space doing an interview before. No. Why did you feel the need to come on this time around? What's different? I mean, like, typically, I mean, you want to see different stories for whatever reasons. Now, I just let it pass because, I mean, I didn't see the need to come and explain so, but I think this year is a little bit, this coming season, I think I decide to approach it a little bit because at the end of the day, we are human and I think all the stuff that's been going on from the time Elaine left MVP up until this moment, I think it was an attack, if you may wish, the timing up a little bit off or against her, in a little sense. For me, it's not really here and not there. I know basically all the decisions that I make are all for the best, to get the best out of the situation fairly. However, this particular situation now, I don't, from my point of view, I didn't see the need for it to be really escalated. Yes, on the side of fans are were born, it was 1079. So it's under the assumption that it was because of the coaching setup. I was trying to get done from what, 2022 at the end of the 2022 season, I mean, believe it or not, Elaine did not plan to leave MVP. I was basically dragged into a situation. I had to coach, I couldn't, I mean, you know, and Elaine is a season professional where she's been in our system for 10 years and she documents everything. So pretty much it is just a matter of following doctors' instructions and others because we're trying not to reinvent the wheel too much, but at the same time, try to make sure that she could stay in training, which is the most important part of it. I reached out to Ms. Asber and then, I mean, from what? This was September 2022, but she was still at MVP at the time. I was trying to make sure that the change wasn't as drastic in terms of what she would have done in terms of track workouts and training routines and stuff. So that, you know, workout throughout this year, as, I mean, May, April, sometime there about the situation on my phone, still in a very cold. So in the trials, I mean, Elaine wasn't able to train for about three months. She got to the trials and the championship. And basically we thought she, you know, I mean, it's Elaine, so we are trying to make sure that she has the best opportunity of making a team against doctors' orders. After the championship, she was basically advised to sit out for two weeks, which she did while the championship was going on. I was in dialogue with Ms. Asber to Mr. Russell basically was pushing for that to happen. So I mean, I had no issues because through the time, I was trying to find a situation for her that would work. So after the championship, we decided to give it a try. Ms. Asber was hesitant until Elaine was cleared to train by the doctors. She took two weeks. We're monitoring that. She came on the track. She came and got a record. We did that and that worked all well. So going into the championship, we decided to go. And whatever she needed to do, whatever the team needed her for, whether it be the E-start, finals, or just to be there while she was training, she was there. As she continued training and she progressed, the pain basically became minimal. We basically just kept on going and going. And we found some meats that she could get to competing after the championship. And it worked out where she ended the season at 10.79. Okay. So basically, it was like easing into a situation. At that point, we didn't discuss anything about compensation or anything like that. As soon as the season ended in September, I was trying to start the situation out in terms of coming to an agreement where payments and finances were concerned. Due to an existing contract with different sponsors, typically a coach would earn 10% to 15% in a normal situation. And the situation is not as such. There's no coach on it. She did her contract herself. So I am not on it as a coach. There's no coach on it. It's basically for her to work or whatever the salary would be between her and the coach. Because you cannot disclose the terms or the figures on the contract. So I think that was initially an issue where I was trying to communicate that to Ms. Asbir. She kept, she insisted on 15%, which I basically was trying to explain that. I cannot give 15%. Obviously, if I say, if I give you a figure and you go and divide that figure by 15%, by 0.15% you basically, you will be at the actual figure. Yeah, hold it there for a second and let me see if I can get some context in here in terms of when the negotiation started about her remuneration for the next year. You're saying that she wanted 15%, which she has said, by the way, in an article that was published on Sportsmax.tv earlier today. And she was sticking out for that 15%. At some point though, I get the impression that it was said to her that percentage is not going to work. And what she said is that you kept pushing for her to give a figure that would essentially be her remuneration, even though what she really wanted was the 15%. Right, because I didn't want to propose a figure that she wouldn't be comfortable with. And I did not necessarily want the back and forth drawn on situation. So I asked her to give me a figure that she was comfortable with. And then we could work from there. I did not get a figure. So I gave her a proposal. The moment I gave her a proposal, she instantly said that she didn't want it. Elaine was away at the time. So I communicated this to Elaine. And then she met with Elaine. And after that meeting, I guess they assumed that Elaine was agreeing, but that wasn't the situation. I went back to her again, tried to, after the meeting, I went back to her a couple of days after to try to come up with an agreement. And basically that did not happen. And then she said she had an agent or a manager that she would see in person that basically was in the incident. This is Damian Russell. And this is how he ended the conversation. Right, into the conversation. She said that he would be, I was hesitant a bit, but then I wanted to work. So I didn't want a third party to come in to discuss such a person of that. I mean, she was okay with it. So I went ahead. So it was our first conversation. It went as if we could reach an agreement because I had presented an offer with a lot of bonuses, with high bonuses. There was a base, but the bonuses were high. Since Elaine already had a contract in existence and she had nothing to do with Elaine getting this contract. So it is now her work that she would be basically compensated for. So whatever Elaine did in this upcoming season, she would be getting 15% of everything from that plus her base. They thought maybe the base was because I gave her higher base than the bonuses than normal on this deal that I gave. So this mediator, manager, agent, whichever way you want to put it, he, we taught this as the Saturday. And he said, okay, then maybe the bonuses were too high. So would you be okay to take on the bonuses a bit and bring up the base? I said, no problem. Just come up with something that you guys are comfortable with. The following morning, which was the Sunday morning, he sent me a figure by text, but he sent me a proposal by text. So the figure and the proposal, I thought it was a mistake. I thought that it was, you know, like maybe the writer figure and you write an additional zero extra zero on it. That's what I thought. So I sent the figure back with a question sign and asked if this is what the figure is. He said, yes, he knows, he knew what he sent. So I asked him to rework that the mud, the mud standard. Duran, can you give us any idea of what that figure was? The figure is, I can tell that he's over 100 million Jamaican dollars, pretty much, put it that way. Per year. Per year. And I asked him that, is this what you want per year? He said, yes. Give us an idea in the U.S. In the U.S., it's a little less than a million other U.S. dollars per year. What? A bit less. Because the bonus and everything were still in there. A million U.S. dollars. Correct, correct, correct. So that's the figure I sent. So then I worked much and I said, you do know this is X percentage of almost five over four million U.S. dollars, right? And he was, he said he knew exactly what he sent. Yeah, they're on hold it right there. We have to go to a break. And when I mean a break, I mean a break for the end of today's show. We want to thank all our viewers for joining us on the Sports Mag Zone today, Lance and Mariah. We have to run. But tell you what, you can catch the remainder of this interview with Darren Iroh during tomorrow's Sports Mag Zone. We start at 430 Jamaican time, 530 ECT. Join us then.