 I never in my life seen a 2k community this divided there's accusations of 2k blacklist and content creators 2k themselves are firing back at some of the criticisms people are upset with season 3 level 40 reward being ass cheeks and the dribblers is polarized some people love this new patch that nerf zigzag some people hate it bro yo alright so this is the format of this video I'm going to run through the news and what people are saying and then we're going to get deeper into what it really means yo if y'all new to the channel be sure to subscribe you'll be updated next time I drop by video it's a big satisfying red button when you hit it you smile and drop a like on the video you don't have to but you know it'll help the video do better okay let's get into it so when I mean polarizing I mean polarizing j.a bridge forth tweets if you like the mba 2k 22 season 3 patch go see a doctor therapist psychiatrist counselor mentor and a life coach and then on the opposite side of the spectrum Devo is tweeting saying just played my first game after the patch and I love it w patch so then Ronnie jumped in on the mix and started poking fun at some of the people that were nerfed with the season 3 updates he said left right left right spammers be like with the squid games mean Hank the tank hops in the mix says this is the best patch 2k ever dropped and not 12 hours later tweeting not only the 2k nerf dribbling but they decided to drop the world's worst season rewards I've ever seen in my life a few days after I won't be shocked if even more people stop playing 2k wait the frustration began to mount from there because people realized level 40 reward for season 3 was ass power coming to that realization on twitter saying wtf is this level 40 reward and it was like the iced out animation skins and if y'all missed my last video I kinda went into detail on all the changes with season 3 and the patch that dropped the main thing you need to know is that they nerf zigzagging so the people that used to boost this way and boost this way and boost this way now not only is it way more challenging to boost in every not even challenging it's just not possible to boost in other directions but if you do it for long enough it actually penalizes you when you shoot the basketball now so I guess you have more of an incentive to get your teammates involved and stop zigzagging power follows up though he says seasons needs to be eliminated forever worst system ever the same scarf as level 21 reward in the store is available to buy but a different color law and he shows screenshots here of the level 21 iced out scarf and then on swags in a different color is the same scarf why even grind for 40 when all the rewards are in swags regardless of whether the rewards are good or not I'm not enjoying the game I miss having a system that rewarded people for playing not punishing them I miss rewards that were new not last year swags inventory I miss having events where we had a goal to complete together not divided us by our archetype but most of all I miss this community that's a goddamn poem he dropped right there so more and more people were having the conversation I guess there's plenty of content critics talking about it and I may not only did a patch drop but a season 3 update drop so there was plenty to talk about 2k I'm not gonna lie for the better part of 2 days was trending on my twitter it wasn't trending on overall twitter but because I'm in the community and I'm in the bubble anytime there's enough conversation about 2k ends up popping out on the side of my page all I had to say that the conversation was being had by thousands of people on twitter all day for days but then things began to get more interesting because power decided to drop this bomb he said ok I'm just gonna say it so people stop asking I'm not gonna get a logo and 2k is purposefully not giving anyone a df a logo because someone at 2k has a personal vendetta against me it is what it is but it's petty they are punishing all of my friends because they don't like me Hank responded saying they have a vendetta against me also Badge plug responds bro that is not true just keep grinding and stay positive I think he's trolling there to which power responds they basically told me I don't do rumors solo responds what did I do to them that was so bad power power responds nothing all me this is actually the first time this conversation has been had publicly I believe I mean y'all know my history if you don't fill you in I was one of the first people to receive a logo when they first started doing it in 2k 19 there was probably a handful of like 10 people back then who had a logo it was almost exclusively large content creators trodan etc etc like the content creators you guys are probably familiar with not only that but my face scan was quite literally in the game so when you guys watch my NBA 2k 19 videos you'll see my face that was scanned in 2k's trailer where they do it at they scan my face and everything but something happened between 2k 19 to 2k 20 I want to make a distinction here there's 2k the development team visual concepts and then there's 2k the publisher these are the guys that are paid to like promote the game and sell as many copies as possible these are not the same thing they kind of they work together with one another because the devs obviously want to sell more of their game but the publisher owns the game the devs create it so think about a label promo wing little babies new mixtape or whatever think about it like that that's the form of the relationship I'm talking about I'm not sure how the dev team feels about my videos I mean I've gotten DMs from time to time from some of them discussing something I've said in a video either correcting me because they felt like I was wrong or like congratulating me on saying something that like not a lot of people talk on I'm not sure at the end of the day I never my goal and I say this in a lot of my videos is never to offend the developers I don't know the first thing about developing I took a course in grade 11 and learned a little bit of JavaScript and all that taught me was that developing video games is fucking hard that being said a lot of the stuff I say in my videos is like hire more people I understand the stress on developers is crazy the community events that I did go to I'm fully aware that these developers run 60 to 80 hours especially in crunch time trying to get this game out so the solution is not to get the developers to work harder to just get more of them there's plenty of talented developers out there I'm saying that to say that my frustration a lot of the time lies with the publisher so that being said when I get on these videos and I'm just honest to y'all about how I feel about the game and that this needs to change and is this person's fault a lot of that blame lies on the publisher 2k sports for whatever reason between the time 2k 19 and 2k 20 they just felt like I wasn't deserving of another logo I made jokes in my videos about how they stripped me of my logo and things of that nature but I've never outwardly asked anybody at 2k because some of the people still follow me for a logo I'm like yo bro I'm not begging for this logo I've never really cared that much about the logo it was cool to have but I'm not bending over backwards to receive one of them that being said the logo became like a bigger and a bigger deal as time went on and 2k has these like logo shows now where they hand out like dozens of logos and you'll never see me in the replies or even tweeting about the logo show because again to me it's just not a big deal it does suck that my like real face scan that 2k scan they could just put it on my player if they wanted to and they don't do it I feel like my video does something about me it makes me want to play the game more just knowing that my real face is for real in the game and it looks fucking realistic but because I know what it's like to not receive the benefits of having a good relationship with 2k I believe what power is saying I don't know how many of y'all were paying attention at the launch of NBA 2k 22 but there were plenty of content critters that got access to like news exclusively before I was even aware that things were going on and this was stuff that was fed to them by 2k it sucks it's like I'm playing at a disadvantage because I want to have my own mind and I don't want to like recite talking points that somebody gives me bro I built this channel like and I my blow up was in 2k 17 I built it with me speaking my own mind it would it would defraud everything that I am and everything this channel is about it for whatever reason I was willing to compromise that for a working professional relationship ever since 2k 20 I imagine this somewhat cordial at the end of the day I get to sit here and make videos so I can't complain too much right it's a little disheartening to know that I feel like I'm a big part of this community but it never gets paid out by 2k in terms of like there's no love shown in reciprocation and yeah I can sit here and be critical on these videos but bro I sit here and I played a fucking game dog I played a game and I drop videos on the game and I'm part of the community there's times where even to me bro it just felt like I was being ousted while other people were being welcome because they were willing to do what I wasn't so I to some what extent I feel what power is talking about the community discussion kind of just grew from there there were people comparing 2k 22 to 2k 18 which is something that I never thought would ever happen if you played 2k 18 do you know exactly why Hank the tank tweeted I hate to say it but 2k 18 is greater than 2k 22 he probably just saying that in the moment that's a fucking wild statement I think he's wrong but then things began to get interesting because 2k themselves started firing shots back at some of the content creators that were levying this criticism there was luck on Twitter who said 2k logo shows are a joke first off no disrespect to anyone who got logos why is the logo show about smaller creators it takes away from the big creators who also deserve it why does 2k clown other 2k workers for speaking good about DF keep our name out your mouth lazy ad company so I mean he's dropping some private information that there's no real way to verify but 2k is clowning developers or people who work for 2k that's speaking good about DF at the end of the day 2k's goals to make as much money as possible if somebody gets in the way of that I'm sure they're gonna be comfortable steamrolling them there's nothing they'll stop at in the pursuit of profit I'm telling you bro this how fucking businesses work y'all there's a handful of developers and publishers that I don't feel like would act like that but for the most part most publishers will move in accordance to what makes more money I'm telling you if you don't make the more money they'll pack you up ASAP but anyway Ronnie responded to that tweet saying see you are discrediting people so let me do that to you now a guy on Twitter named Mills said guys like myself Eric and GGB and countless others are living proof that you can be critical of games and still work with them closely as creators it's a matter of 2a respect and establishing strong relationships I mean there's no doubt that for the most part 2k takes criticism better than the average publisher 2k gets levied a lot of criticism mostly because their games come out unfinished but I've seen publishers act way more egregiously than 2k's ever acted objectively so what he's saying I would argue is pretty true for the most part you could be respectful to developers and publishers and keep that respect can stay there while you criticize them I feel like the point 2k misses a lot of the time is that it gets frustrating to be in this community and know that y'all could be doing better and it's like it's almost negligent how careless these games drop sometimes or how careless these updates are or some decisions are made and it's like you just didn't think about what community would want at all so 2k also has to understand the reason people feel charged is because they care about the fucking game so if they get on a video and they express the way they feel about the game it shouldn't be taken as disrespect as much as it should be taken that there's a guy who's passionate about this thing and to them you're ruining it so how could they not be angry how could they not be heated and charged in that conversation but anyway all of that to say Mitchell quotes we did that tweet I just read out earlier saying this is the tweet you're allowed to criticize that's perfectly fine we'd love to hear that we're actively trying to work closer with creators in fact we have been trying to convince people internally every day how valuable you are like every day Mills nails it here I yo bro this statement right here this shit like this scares me dawg as a content creator it scares me bro you have to convince people that content creators are valuable there's people that don't believe it until you tell them otherwise it's crazy it's scary bro I'm telling you when this is your job it's scary that like at any moment you can get ice like they could just put you on the sideline and you could be playing at a disadvantage that's scary he's right for the most part 2k does allow for all parts they allow criticism if 2k could criticize back they're perfectly like Ronnie's firing back at somebody is not an indictment on Ronnie Ronnie's allowed to do that in fact he's been doing it more and more that's Ronnie's opinion the same way you was given your opinion we all are entitled to our freedom of speech the only problem I have is when it feels like people are receiving benefits by like doing what 2k wants to be done at that point it's like what's the word for it it's sponsored I guess like when I sit here and I do a sponsorship on this channel I say at the beginning and the end of the sponsorship that is sponsored just to let you guys know that hey guys I'm being paid to say these things this is an ad now you would hope that the person you're watching has the integrity to just take ads that are like things that they believe in but if you're receiving benefits for something and then at no point ever disclosing that you're receiving benefits for that thing then it is a little bit deceptive too but the conversation continued annoying put out some tweets saying I hope when the numbers come back from 2k on their sales and online activity on the game it humbles them to realize the power of not only content creators but of a community who doesn't get what they ask for a great game but the community doesn't get heard it's funny 2k21 atrocious in terms of views relative to other 2k 2k21 sold incredible there's not always a correlation between like how many people are watching the game and how successful it sells it's not one to one so we'll see I think in February is when 2k is going to release their report and then we'll see then how well 2k sold between the time it launched in September all the way up until February and how it compares to previous 2k's I'll probably drop a video on this channel with my reaction followed up though saying the game is not being touched for the rest of the year from being honest not the same as 20 pandemic just dry boring content and unplayable 2k so dirt right now I feel like they're going down the madden route just keeping it 100 I feel like this is worthy of like its own documentary so there's no point of diving too much deeper but this is actually the general sentiment for a lot of people it's funny because when I talk to a lot of casual players they don't see these same problems it's a lot of the people who've been in the community for a while that are upset with the way things are people that are newer to the community are like they're like on newbie mode like they don't really see any of these problems they're not heated in these exchanges and for the most part they're not even actually part of a lot of these conversations this is a lot of you see a lot of these OG's talking which I mean it's not necessarily a bad thing but I have a lot of conversations with people that don't cite nothing wrong they be talking to me like yo 2k is a blast I'll be on the park I have these 3 bills I have a great time playing with my friends and then on the polar opposite is the people that have been doing it for 6-7 years talking about yo this shit is ass this is ass this was better before and things of that nature shakedown prior to saying admit it this is the coldest city slam champion in the game prove me wrong show me yours showing off some of his gear within the game man that's a fire fucking shot jeez that's in the game that looks like a real photo someone took god damn someone in my stream said they didn't know anyone who got a logo yesterday so I kept it real with him a couple other people that got left out too you know what I mean I'm not the only one so it's the next one bro I'm not trippin it's not gonna stop the gron I don't know half the people who got one that's how it's supposed to be though I agree with him actually on that I know that a lot of large content creators feel like his disrespect for that 2k is not showing love to them by blessing them with a logo and maybe for like the first month I didn't get one in 2k20 I was like damn 2k like I felt pretty like I was like come on dawg come on dawg but after that I was like yeah shouldn't it go to the smaller content creators isn't it a lot harder to be a smaller content creator than a larger content creator as a larger content creator you're probably getting games regardless like you could do without the logo the logo is gonna bless some of the smaller content creators that might get some attention as a result they might get some games as a result and they might get some followers as a result well I feel like the larger content creators play a big role and it would be nice for them to be recognized in some way bro I have no problem with smaller content creators being blessed with a logo the reality is it kinda does water down the value of a logo but I mean as Ronnie said right here on this tweet exactly great video Corey and I were talking about this this morning saying that 0.0003% of daily players have a logo but isn't this what makes a logo a logo you'll know those that have it if you didn't before it's our dream to reward those by doing it the right way I'm sorry I was late I can't fucking read correct the reality is the logo doesn't always translate to views I would argue it doesn't translate to much views at all but it is a lot of motivation for smaller content creators and I know how easy it can be to convince yourself to quit when you're a small content creator I don't see a problem with them blessing small content creators at all especially because in the midst of doing that a lot of the time they do bless larger content creators with a logo anyway the logo to me is a non-issue but the issue of viewership continues to get brought up BatchPlug says this is extremely embarrassing I will never suck 2k for a logo this season just started and ALT4 has more viewers what is ALT4? what is OSU? never even heard of these games yet they complete with the multi-billion dollar corporation uninvited guest to a screenshot here of a live viewership for NBA 2K22 Batch follows up saying I'm going to continue playing the game trying to do entertaining content for you guys like these wages I want to do and go for these big streaks until I dislike the game but damn 2k what are you doing so sad it got to the point where some content creators like double H just flat-out started posting Fortnite related stuff you're not even posting 2k no more look he's a Fortnite rumor if you guys cared guys tilted towers might be coming back Loki new Fortnite season is a W first of all I saw some fucking dickhead in my comment section talking about watching agent pretend to care about Fortnite because one of my old like two videos ago was sponsored by Fortnite alright dickhead you don't watch my videos I've been talking about how much I can suck Epic Games in a lot of my videos because Epic Games is one of the examples of a good dev team dog it's a good publisher and a good dev team they did it right Sony invested in them because they have fucking leverage they run the most popular gaming engine anyway that kinda just got me heated cause he was basically saying I was dishonest besides the point alright back on topic so there's a lot of criticism being levy agent how you feel about it I don't think blacklist is the right word blacklist would be like 2k saying damn don't play this game no more you're getting banned and there's been publishers in history that have just flat out banned people EA is one of them I've seen them do it to a guy in the FIFA community before and we all just pretend like this didn't happen last year a lot of y'all have to realize content creators is not you you are not us in terms of like you just hop on the game and play with your friends and you get off a lot of these people have to live and die the game so they might get more frustrated than the average players because they have to make videos about it and then edit the videos about it and post it and then record more and play it and edit and upload like it's their life to do this so it's more frustrating when something goes wrong the average person isn't that invested that's the first thing is is true I'm party of it that 2k has favorites they have people that they prefer to work with then they have others that they just kind of ignore like I'm just one of the people that they ignore that being said there's people in 2k that follow me if for whatever reason I ever needed something I imagine I could reach out whether or not they respond is completely up to them but I'm not blacklisted it does suck that there's times where someone else gets access to news before me or to a screen job before me or whatever it happened a lot at the launch of NBA 2k 22 it sucks that my face is not in the game no more my logo is not in the game no more but the reality is if these were things I cared about I just ask any one of them and who knows they might shut me down and be like nah you're too negative or maybe you criticize too much I have no idea what they might say reality is I kind of like operating independently because the 2k community is show me a ton of support playback is more of like my commentary reaction channel I have with low agent zero ones more of my lifestyle channel I'll do videos with just like me and things that I care about or I find interesting of course y'all probably watch amp we got the fake merch from like two years ago on right now this is my group channel I have with five of my friends and then peer to peer is my podcast number one gaming podcast on the fucking planet all of that to say is years ago I realized I don't want to be dependent on 2k if I want to do this stuff for a living I should treat it like it's a job like something I should take seriously not something I just do passively and that's what I've been doing and I've diversified the reality is I'm a do these 2k videos for as long as I can that's what I owe the 2k community for giving me this head start and allowed me to do the thing that I've been dreaming about for my whole life for a living there's plenty to be thankful about there's worse fates in life than you having to make 2k videos that being said 2k is and I do mean this one of the most atrociously ran games on the planet if you're a part of any other gaming community or you watch other gaming videos on the internet you can relate for some reason it just is like negligent careless stupid mistakes and 2k makes them frequently so I fully understand when people is heated about reality is 2k has their favorites is people is gonna have access to stuff that you won't have access to if you're not willing to bend the knee these are all the reality of being a content creator I guess no one just spoken on it publicly is the first time that it's happening I'm not upset about any of the stuff I guess like in the moment I might be like damn everybody else got the screenshot before me because keep in mind I make videos that's news so if someone else has access to something days ahead of time has a video planned and when all y'all get to see publicly boom that moment they drop a video they're ahead of the curve but okay man I've built out this as like a career for me and I'm thankful for that so I guess all of that to say the 2k community is in a very interesting polarizing position I'm gonna make a documentary probably in the next week or two just diving deep into some of the issues why but I've never seen people as polarized as what I'm seeing right now 2k themselves is taking the liberty to fire shots at content creators content creators firing shots back people either love or hate the update and it's like everyone's kind of just waiting to see like how did this 2k perform did it perform horribly did it perform incredibly anyway that's been basically all the news I don't want to drag it on longer than it has to be it's been a long video already if y'all enjoyed the video man y'all would see more subscribe to the channel links to all my other channels in the description if y'all want to catch that content otherwise I'll catch you guys in the next one I'm out peace