 Is it a type C mini type C mini hdmi I don't know No, I'm wondering is what's the port yeah Oh, there's that damn flag flies water No, well, you can see the plug on it. Yeah And pretty soon I literally can't even run away Why is the stream status Why is it back? Yeah, I am You know It's gonna dog actually only ten minutes. Look at that really at nine ten. Yeah, of course Darren, I think you quit. I really should figure that out. So he's supposed to be the guy posting all the time It's that guy's me But you can't because you can't bring up It's the equipment man. I'm not just land on the wall, please See we have a third member of the podcast. Yeah, right to fly. All right. I just try to kill it. All right, all right worry about it after I guess You're in the middle of the podcast We're looking good Well first advertising that go by the way, we're still taking advertisers here. All right Think up here we go Hey everyone, welcome back to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode 67 road to e3 week 5 Yeah, bro One more episode and it's e3. Did we take off in a plane? Well, we've taken up for the episode because I was still it'll be recording couple days gone. Yeah, so yeah It's gonna be exciting times there This week though, it's a little different goes in this week's road to e3 We're gonna be talking about all non-Nintendo things Essentially I originally was gonna make this episode like let's look at Sony's conference Microsoft's conference and go back through all of the major Third-party conferences and tumble games that might not like come to switch But you know what we already did the third-party thing last week So who really cares we're just gonna hit on Sony and Microsoft this week might be a shorter episode or it might be a longer episode Wherever the conversation takes us all I know is we're actually starting this episode practically on time This is on time for us. Yeah, right. So there is again. No daring this week at this point I'm just not even gonna mention. There's no Darren anyone. I don't even know if this is even part of the podcast All right, I know he's alive because he posted a picture on Facebook of fishing. Yeah, so it's like you were just fishing Yeah, but you can't get back to me Darren. I'm sorry. I'm questioning your dedication As much as he was bragging about never missing an episode, right? I will say the the one obvious Nintendo thing we have going here is rocking some new coasters Actually, I've had him for a little while haven't been using it much. Yeah. I got my duck hunt coaster He's got his three out three if you don't believe it was it's officially copyrighted by Nintendo made in China, of course 2017 anyways busting those out trying to get a little bit less rings on the table Even though we're probably in a repainting over it already. Yeah, as if we don't have enough paint here, right? So yeah before we hop into this since I feel like this is gonna be a shorter podcast I just got at this feeling I do too. How's your week been going man? I haven't talked to you much. Oh Not too bad not too bad. Well Not too bad not too good. I guess Holiday on Monday, so no work. No, that was fun weekend. It was up and up and stacked fish and hang out We actually hung out on that Monday a little bit tons of Sun Dehydrated the hell out of myself And then I dehydrated the hell out of myself on Monday night. Yeah. Yeah, if you saw that $500 stream night Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. Um then Tuesday was just a normal day or whatever Wednesday at half-day work because I had my physical. Yeah Those are always fun, aren't they? Yeah, yeah, let's just say I'm at the heaviest I've ever been in my life I'm surprisingly not yeah, cuz I went to the doctor today for those who are wondering This is the day I found out that I was gonna have knee surgery if you're wondering what that's all about There's a whole other video up about it But when I went in and I stepped on the scale. I'm like, huh, I really have been eating for three days I'm down like 12 pounds Alrighty, and I like that. I'm usually scared to step on the doctor scale. Yeah, I'm gonna be worse than that Oh, I'm better than that. Yeah Thanks. Thank you for I guess and making me not want to eat. You have damn hernia. Yeah, great Yeah, so phone out him the heaviest I've ever been Pre-diabetic That's always so yeah. Yeah, but not there yet. You gotta work at it. So you know, I know I Am definitely well aware that's why I'm hitting it. I'm hitting hence why I only got the six inch Sub in the fridge is open. Yeah, okay. Yeah, no, um, well, we'll Work on that a little bit together this summer to because I'm because obviously to work out well It's not the work. Well after July I come right but beyond that Actually my diet has to change a little bit. Yeah, I could eat pretty much whatever I want But to help restrengthen the wall in there. I have to have like more whole grains Super lean meat Stuff like that doesn't mean that I can't eat out I would have to cut back on that a little bit. I suppose you got to probably cut back on the spice a little bit for a little while no Well the first week it's like a liquid diet. Yeah, so I'm gonna be yeah By the time I'm back to normal four weeks later or close to normal I probably would have dropped already 30 40. Oh, just in the just between the surgery and the diet change I had to just recover. Yeah, but after that. Yeah, I will we'll see what happens But I do plan to Obviously cut back on portion size. I already do that. No, that's already one That's probably the only reason I haven't blown up even bigger because I haven't cutting back on portion size Even when I make frozen pizzas now, I'm only eating half a pizza for some of you guys Crazy was like dude. I used to down the whole thing. Oh, if not, or like we could easily do two in a rating when I was ordering in pizza You know like Domino's I eat the whole thing. I want to say now me. Yeah, I have a two three sizes Like I've been making myself do that. However, there is a caveat now. Oh boy Because I'm not be able to eat this kind of food once I have my surgery pretty much for the next two weeks All hands are off. I mean, what the hell I like. Yeah, and I'm gonna drink whatever I feel like because everything's changing Well, but I'm not gonna go crazy basically what I'm trying to give me to tell myself is we're good when I'm in LA I'm not gonna give a crap and I'm gonna do what I want because I just don't care because I'm only there once a year Right. All right. Once every other year. Yeah, yeah, right So, yeah, anyways, let's get into the actual podcast before we get into it. The camera is Flickering so I just wanted to there's nothing I can do about it. We are aware that there is a glitch in the camera it I Don't know what to tell you my kids step on things break things and We do have a more professional great camera. We could be using but we don't have the right cord to actually use it The way that we would want to for this. So Yeah We'll figure it out eventually. Maybe someday Sorry, I keep dreaming of the day when I could have a camera here camera there camera there and the multiple Yeah, I could change it up. Not that we need multiple angles only two of us, right? Maybe someday maybe there'll be three of us at this table a 360 360 view. All right. Oh, yeah Ceiling can't open to spin around Anyways folks We do I have a third member of the podcast pop in here. It's called the fly. Oh, yeah The giant fly that we can't get we've been trying to kill Elma. Anyways, yeah The first time we're gonna talk about actually deals with Sony. We're gonna go Sony's press conference and Microsoft's press conference The known games that are going to be at Sony's press conference for sure our Death Stranding Kingdom Hearts 3 dreams No, so I'm not here the last of us part to spider-man and Street Fighter 5 and then the rumored games that might also appear there our day has gone Shenmue 3 and of course that Final Fantasy 7 remake that's been announced twice and has been eight or ten years and whatever. Yeah. Yeah any of those games like Standout to you excite you and anything that piques your interest a little bit. Um, I'm not sure how many these games I know you saw some of Death Stranding. Right. I was gonna say that's the one that we saw last year. It was definitely intriguing If we had a chance, I don't know if this is playable, correct We don't know these are just at the press conference. Okay If it's playable, it would be interesting to kind of play it But we'll see right especially if that new leaked list that came out to legit for what's playable Then we know, okay, there's only nine games at the Nintendo booth So then if we can get all nine of those games done in the first day and a half Then we can kind of start going, okay Well, we'll try to see what if there's any switch games play with these other booths But if there's not while we're already there, right, we might as well play something else, right? Like as an example if we can't play NBA 2k 19 on switch there. Mm-hmm. We can still play NBA 2k 19 Yeah, won't be on switch and we still give some impressions for what the switch version might be like even though it won't be at 60 FPS, right So there's that And just like FIFA 19 although playing the FIFA 19 version for other system Well, there's supposedly my FIFA 19 might be at the Nintendo booth Yeah, right um the Kingdom Hearts 3 is always Freaking fantastic. I had that preview event and all that footage is out there now and it's like, oh my gosh The game looks gorgeous. I don't know if it controls the greatest, but God does it look good? Yeah, I'm sorry when you tell me Toy Story is like real and I could play it I'm sold right Period. I've never played a Kingdom Hearts game sue me Yeah, right. I don't know how I've never played it since I love Disney so much Heck I put epip mickey and epip mickey too, but I didn't play well see the run Nintendo systems Yeah, that's kind of the thing. Yeah, very true. Very true. Yeah, but wasn't Kingdom Hearts on Not one and two oh, they weren't no where they were no Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 were never on Nintendo what it was is they like chained memories Kingdom Hearts 2 and a half something like that like they had Like they have like the side games that are part of the main story. We're like 3ds and stuff Yeah, but okay. I thought or DS. I don't remember it's been so long, but no, I never played them Kingdom Hearts 1 2 I think we're just PlayStation I could be wrong on that by the way because I never played them. I think I never played them So it's not like I really know Kingdom Hearts 3 is only announced for PlayStation 4 so I just that's why I kind of want to do might have only been PlayStation right PlayStation 2 I believe or PlayStation 1 PlayStation 3 or PlayStation 2 please. Yeah, you guys will know better than me. I never played Okay, and the other games. Um, it'd be interesting to see a spider-man cuz you know movie to Game well, it's not a movie game. No, it's not a movie. Yeah. Okay. Good. No, I mean it is made by the game Have you remember the Batman? Arkham City. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's made by the people who did that. Oh, nice. Okay, so and then yeah, it should be good And it they've shown it off before it looks It actually looks like they finally made a good spider-man game for the first time in history spider-man Because somehow web slinging is such a hard concept to get correct. Well, it did And it looks like they nailed it, but we'll see yeah again a lot of the stuff gameplay We've seen you because we've seen trailers with him web slinging Haven't seen people playing the web slinging parts, but we have seen like him fighting people in like warehouses and stuff like that And it's like yeah, okay, it looks like Batman. Mm-hmm Looks like the beat-em-up stuff and that's great with some spider-man moves, but we'll see Well, we'll see it looks good I know a lot of you guys out there have talked about in art some of our live streams I'll excited you are for that one wish it was coming to switch But again, I think Sony's kind of paying for it. So yeah, so probably not yeah I mean when I look at the list, obviously, you know, you brought up some some good ones I have to say I Am ashamed to admit that I have never played the last of us Yeah, I'm in that boat too. So see It came on a PlayStation 3. I have PlayStation 3 Just go buy it for that But I don't want to because I want to play the remastered version of PlayStation 4 I don't own a PlayStation 4. We'll get there someday folks There's gonna be a trifecta of current-gen systems or I'll just wait till PlayStation 5 comes. Yeah But um, but don't worry might not be backwards compatible. Yeah, I know so then I still have to get the four to play Yeah, the last most right anyways The thing is is I'm really into like I Like shows and movies that are like post-apocalypse or apocalyptic zombie movies even like even like they're like the Walking Dead show Which I know it's kind of around along in the through for some people I still love like the first four seasons force five seasons because it's just really I mean It was based on comics. So it's kind of got good source material, but it's just a really Interesting piece and the last of us is that kind of like the world's going to hell everything's becoming zombies and They're this is the last of us So there's not that many folk people left and we obviously you know about the main character and the girl and everything And the last of us part two I think was focusing on the girl can I'm not 100% sure because again, I haven't played the games So it's funny to people tell us spoilers. Well, you know, here's the thing I still know pretty much nothing about the last of us's story. So is it really that hard to avoid spoilers? I'm just like it's been out forever, and I still don't know much and some of you guys are going on the comments No, well this happens. I'm still know you're talking. Oh, that's not right exactly Well, you tell you could spoil the entire story to me and I still wouldn't know anything because I haven't played It's like do I believe what you're saying or are you trolling me? I wouldn't know because I haven't played Yeah, so that that's the cool thing of that. That's I don't know Here's the thing it's hard for me to be spoiled unless I want to be spoiled is basically what I'm saying Right, I mean I just don't believe anyone. Yeah, right. You just don't believe anyone. It doesn't really matter. You're not spoiled Yeah, because you never believed it in the first place But but it's a game that I know I would love if I played it and it is going to be one of the very first games I pick up with the PlayStation 4 hopefully later this year and That being said, I really want to see where part two is going to take us Just any it's naughty dog. They all they do is make excellence, right, you know, it's them and rock star It's like, you know, Red Dead Redemption 2 coming out this year. Just know going to be amazing games So I'm really really really excited for that one You know, you already mentioned a lot of the going dreams is interesting I liked when it was first shown off, but apparently it's been like canned and rebooted like two or three times Really, I don't really know what it's ultimately going to become if it doesn't have right on right now and I don't know if it was Yeah, I don't know Street Fighter 5. I mean it's Street Fighter. Yeah, right either you take it or you leave it And then you know some of the rumored ones like like days gone From you know, the things rumored about it sounds nice, but again, I don't really believe it till I see it You know what I just say if you just don't believe anything to you to see it then suddenly you're never spoiled. Are ya? Shenmue 3 Okay, I did not I did not play Shenmue 2 I didn't play my bad My bad, I should have played Shenmue 2 still need to get my hands on it But I played the first Shenmue Shenmue 3 is all my it's a it's a labor of love I mean it's partially fan funded for crying out loud It was only going to exist of enough fans supported it They did and then Sony backed for the rest of the money needed to make it and it's like Yeah, okay fans want it. Let's make it happen I that's the one game on the list I'm like that might not be about profit margins as much as it is about a labor of love for the fans Can't wait to see just more of Shenmue 3, baby Final Fantasy 7 So I just find it hilarious here is my confession my old friend. Okay. Yeah, I've never played Final Fantasy 7. Yeah, here by but I played wait one two three four five six and then eight nine ten and eleven twelve and Then fifteen a little bit and Chris chronicles and we had crystal chronicles So here's the funny thing I played all these other Final Fantasy games but the one that everyone says is the best Final Fantasy game and I think it's because that was the first one to release only on PlayStation at the time when they switched from Nintendo and And and maybe I think it was on PC to for some reason I didn't buy it on PC But then I bought Final Fantasy 8 on PC Don't ask me why I think I had some sour grapes. Yeah, I was a kid I think I was just like screw you square. Yeah, took it away from Nintendo. Oh, I'm not buying how dare you and Should have but I thought I went to the refines console or yeah And the thing is I'm over all that stuff as an adult, but I just I've never gone back to pick it up again Yeah So don't worry, you'll just win another 10 years and you'll be able to pick it up Yeah, and I'm also hoping that this is coming to switch. I don't think it's going to yeah for sure Sony's funding some of it but I really hope that that shows up just because It's been something they've announced and announced they've announced it twice been in development been scratched brought back in development again I really want to see it happen. Just like it's kind of like To me it's almost akin to if they would finally do ocarina of time in HD Like just one of those milestone games that even if I don't think ocarina of time is is all that in a bag of chips Maybe yeah, maybe I play Final Fantasy 7. I don't think it's all that in a bag of chips But it's still that significant portion of gaming history that you would just like to see brought into today's world Where there's a lot of people today that have never played And so yeah, and not just like HD in it like actually remastered and one of those people yeah, so I really want to see that You know out of all the games the game I mean I Know the last of us part two is gonna be great. I am very curious about Death Stranding Not just because it's the game. I've seen the most of because Hello, you know who's who's making it come on Kojima Not to mention and Norman Reedus is like not to mention me what half-hour showcase that they had I mean that video is long Yeah, that was good though. It was very I mean it got a little long in the truth at one point like yeah But it's all cinematic. Yeah, right, right. They're trying to show what it is without it's Kojima, right? It's what Kojima does. Okay. Oh, I know. I don't really know what this game is right because that's just what you're not gonna Know you know the random baby until it releases. You're not gonna even know what this thing is You know the random baby. Yeah the random baby Which I think as obviously a key part of the story, but I don't I don't get it yet I and then you I'm guessing aliens. Oh, I know all I know is it's Kojima and He's never let me down in his whole career Anytime I bought a game he and played a game that he has created and now he's on his own free of Konami I want to see what he does with his very first-ever game on his own as a studio Is it gonna be all hype and no deliverance like mighty number nine was by the Mega Man creator? Or is it going to be 20 billion times better than it would have ever been if it had been in the Konami game because Konami is Konami I mean he's gonna Konami, but we'll see. That's the thing I believe that Kojima is very talented whether or not he is also an equally talented team with them. I don't know right, so I Really want to see how that turns out and again It'd be nice to know is it coming this year is it coming next year like Kojima teases things for you So like we could still be talking about Death Stranding at E3 next year and the year after and you're after But before it'll be a PlayStation 6 game. You're right releases, but it'll be at E3 every single right? And obviously we'll see you by the time by the time releases will have seen the whole game in cinematic We'll see eight hours of cut right out of the total 50 hours Yeah Love you Kojima. I can't wait to I really I have high hopes out of all the games at E3 That are not like a Nintendo game do death stranding. I have such high hopes for that. That is the game that If I feel like it's living up to the hype I will probably at least buy a used PlayStation 4 just to play it even though I want a pro It's fine. It'll it'll be worth me buying the cheaper used PlayStation 4 just like that happens Oh, oh dang. Oh, no, I get to play the last house for a bastard. Oh dang now I go need to play the last Guardian. Oh shoot the Uncharted series. I finally get to play that. Oh I'm gonna be so angry about all this. Oh horizon zero dawn. Yeah guys I am a Nintendo fan through and through but you gotta give some Sony props at this generation man They have kind of nailed it this generation. So Good on them console Wars or BS Seriously, there can be more than one great console out there fanboys Well, there goes there goes some subscribers some subscribers So speaking of console Wars The company that has been most kind of disliked in the console race this year or really just overall this generation has been Microsoft and we're talking of course about Xbox one Xbox one X now at this point plus the Xbox one s yes on all confusing naming conventions it's Microsoft although The Nintendo had Wii U. So we really wanted to talk we yeah, we know I know I know like We kind of made sense. The Wii was fine. That's a new brand, right? But like the Wii U after you just had like we play and we sport Yeah, and we draw you draw tab when it was it was the Wii you draw tablet I don't know we draw a tablet that the like it just Anyway, so there's so many we blank accessories we blank games like we use just a terrible name, right You know, you had like DS to 3 oh 3DS whole clever because it has 3D screens, but it's not a 3D DS It's a brand new generation of hardware. So again kind of confusing branding. It's just Okay, so I can't really pull it. We really complain about the branding, but yeah, besides I don't think the branding is why it didn't work. What do you only fly? Oh our third third cast member Flying around right anyways Here's the funny thing One of the things that Xbox has been most chastised for this generation is their lack of exclusive games and by the way When I say exclusive games, I'm not talking about the fact that oh, there's no Xbox only games They breathe some on PC Microsoft is a PC company right that doesn't bother me that they do that Let's just talk about games that they're gonna have on Xbox that are not on PlayStation 4. Okay, or switch Um and the only game the only game confirmed to be shown this year is ooblets That's it one title. Yeah one title confirmed ooblets It's not like Nintendo. We're like the only confirmed title to be shown is Smash Bros. But it's Smash Bros. Yeah Hey, hey Don't knock this and we know about other games coming. We know about Mario tennis and like so it's like we In Metroid and Yoshi like we know other games that are coming. So it's kind of like Hey, man, this could be the best game ever. I'm sure it looks interesting. So I am not gonna knock it It's just like like that's the only title. We know you know, I get where you're coming from Um, but give me crap. There is some rumored titles, of course One of them. I think we'll probably most likely see because we've seen it before and it was delayed From the launch of the Xbox one X and of course, I'm a crackdown three That is not confirmed to be at E3 However, it would be surprising if it wasn't because it originally was gonna be an Xbox one X launch game But it wasn't ready. So they delayed it So if they're ever gonna release it in this generation Feels like needs to be at this E3 to come out later this year is Microsoft's big game this year, right? holiday You think maybe It depends because the one of them would that be too late or one of their other rumor games is Gears of War 5 Yeah, so that could be the big one. Yeah, one of those would be like the end of summer Yeah, or maybe they're gonna double up the holiday have one land in October the one in November. Yeah, November I don't know But yeah, those are like the two big ones of course that everyone all Microsoft fans should be hoping show up as Gears of War 5 and crackdown 3 and then they have below which Looks admittedly like it could be a very interesting game need to see more of it And then Ori in the will of the wisp again that you know if you guys remember Ori in the blind forest Kind of a follow-up to that and Or in the blind force is very good so or in will of the wisp is kind of more of an indie title But it looks very very promising title in itself just makes me want to play the game Oh, yeah, the or in the blind force is really good. So or in the will of the wisp is probably gonna be equally excellent my big thing here, of course is By the way, what I should know, you know that we're in our second topic is out of both these topics We're not mentioning third-party games We're talking about games that are going to be exclusive right now We'll get into what games you might think might showcase for their third party wise because I feel like that's one thing You know when it sounds like man Microsoft only has ooblets and then maybe four other games like mm-hmm Yeah, they're gonna have Madden shown off there. There's gonna be Call of Duty There's gonna be this there's gonna be much games that are coming to the console that may not be with Because I gotta remember it's just like with Nintendo You know like even if the nine games are all they're gonna have playable on the show floor and if you're curious I made a video about that already what those nine games are It's still that they're gonna show way more than nine games off. Mm-hmm. That's just what they have playable. So yeah, I think I mean does any of those games excite you? Crackdown 3 and you are a crackdown fan. I know you're a crackdown fan. Yeah, I mean I've only played the first one in Half of it probably but it's a fantastic game. You don't need to play two. No two is just Yeah, they didn't really live up to the promise of one. Actually, no, you know what? I may have played a little bit of two now. I think about it. I remember we played some one for yes No, I know I won for sure, but I may have played a little bit of two fun I now I think about it or crackdown 3 what has me excited is Trying to be like cracked on one but with completely destructible environments interesting and it using cloud processing to pull that off Interesting, which also would technically mean it probably needs a constant online connection and that might turn some people off on eaters and Xbox You probably have it connected online all the time anyways So yeah, but yeah, what's the thing? Yeah, if it does my thing is if they stick to the cloud processing on the physics If it does something that is beyond anything I've ever seen before physics wise then it's like Okay Because crackdown 3 was always like their proof of concept that their cloud computing can be used in addition to the power of the system Right to create something that is not possible on all consoles now The thing that I would like to see them do is basically if there is an internet connection use the The cloud computing, but if you don't then turn off the destructible environments and stuff like that So it doesn't or I don't know so that way you don't if you're in a place where you don't have an internet connection It's probably don't know an Xbox play No, let's say I take it up to the cabin. I don't have internet there But I still want to play crackdown. I can't because if it needs an internet connection I mean, it'd be nice to see that. Let's be really you wouldn't bring it to your cabin You just bring your switch right but I'm just no crazy situation. That's not real. No, I don't even have an Xbox one So, I know I know I'm just it's just a high pick a hypothetical. I know what you're saying I hear you it's one of those things where you we would like to live in a world where if a largely single-player experience Doesn't need an online connection But it's also one of those things to me like if the point of this game is to prove That you can create this thing that goes beyond what a console can do Because of the cloud computing and it's kind of like yeah, but if they do that for you then it totally ruins the whole purpose of the Yes, no Well, it's like it kind of like Splatoon 2 because you can play Splatoon 2 offline, but why would you it's not Defeats the purpose of Splatoon 2 and I know it's talking about a multiplayer game But it's just like crackdown 3 if the big purpose is that cloud computing enabling a Game that isn't possible without it then putting it in a situation where you can't use that cloud computing and still be able To play would make it a far lesser experience to the point that you can obviously I go It's obviously a lesser experience if you can't play that at all Yeah, but at least when you do play you're always getting the best of the best experience, right? But there the thing is is that there's well, I'm just devil's advocate. No, no, no, I know I know I'm now I think we don't know right I haven't seen like how amazing this is supposed to be because the cloud computing yet The thing is is we're talking about a smile a small probably a Minor amount of cases where you're not gonna have internet well for Xbox, right? but so The fact that that's Then again, I mean why would you put it for a small amount of cases, but I Mean it's just something that I'd like to see more It was more common with 360 for a lot of people not to have it on internet But that was also the first time people started having internet like I said, well the actual internet So like it was still one of those things. We're not everybody quite has it. So it's fine Whereas Xbox one X was clearly built as a multimedia internet machine, right and I think that's okay It's also, you know If you want single-player experiences on the go you get a PlayStation 4 you get a switch Switch from the go PlayStation 4 you want to go to your cabin, whatever right or get it or not your cabin. Damn it Um But yeah, I don't know I mean I'm excited for crackdown through just because it is supposed to be that proof of concept Not just because I like crackdown. I do like crackdown, but that proof of concept is like But also, you know where I was going with that sure to bring it back around is that there's So I mean so little cases that you know the proof of concept is still gonna be there With how many people are actually still connected to the internet it's it's the proof of concept is gonna be there No matter what if even if they put the other thing in there because it is a small amount of cases That's gonna be without the internet Yeah, well my my thing is it's just like I use in this between two cases kind of But if you remove the internet defeats the purpose of the game Like I'm not saying that it can't be a good game of the internet But it's like if the game is so heavily built around a physics engine that's reliant on that cloud computing And you just remove the cloud computing from the game. It's gonna feel like a completely different I mean imagine that the physics in Breath of the Wild all the wild amazing physics required a cloud And you remove the cloud now you don't have those physics anymore breath of the wild feel completely different It'd be like a totally different game physics wise, yeah So it's kind of one of those like yeah, it moves the structural environment So it's not just that it's the physics of all of it So like the physics are supposed to be with the cloud computing This is just Microsoft by the way that argued this the cloud computer supposed to enable physics that aren't possible with any single device I mean so and the thing is we just haven't seen enough of we've seen teasers We've seen we saw we saw the I brought the destruction of iron because that's how they initially showed it off But that doesn't mean that's the only way right right and everything else we've seen a trailer from it I've just been prescripted stuff. So I really wanted I Think I need to see what this is I finally needed to have the whole veil lifted off it and let's see Are you even still using cloud computing or did you make this an Xbox one x exclusive because that has enough power to do what you Want or if you are still using cloud computing why? What makes the cloud computing so necessary for what you're doing with crackdown 3 or did you create crackdown 3? Kind of like sugar me a moto did like with Star Fox zero to be a proof of concept for what cloud computing can do because my here's my thing and I Want video games to be able to exist for their own merits So when they announced we were making Star Fox zero I was all excited till they kind of say all but we're basing it around the game pad and I'm like so you are creating Star Fox zero to prove late in the we use life cycle that the game pad is worth it Okay, that means that you're basing the game to prove a concept that's already been rejected Relevant and so like my thing is and I'm not saying that the cloud computing here can't be useful in the future, right? No for sure You know, I think this is Microsoft's idea of look We're not we're not talking about game streaming although you'll be able to get this this game through their game streaming or not the game streaming They're they're game rental service basically but I think that I'm hoping that crackdown 3 wasn't built in the mind to be a showcase For the cloud computing rather they wanted to use cloud. I'm like I'm hoping the people that the making crackdown love crackdown Wanted to go with cloud computing because they believe it's going to enhance the game, right? To their complete vision of what they want right now That's my hope and if that's the case And you definitely are not going to rip that out and give someone a chance to play it That's outside of the vision of the game now if it's just we're just a proof of concept Of course you can rip it out well then that means that the game wasn't really rebuilt with it and that extra Probably means we have a less impressive game because the game probably isn't that good It was built as a choke. It was a Star Fox zero. Yeah, it was a and by the way, I think I don't think Star Fox zero is a bad game It's just I don't think it's as good as it could be because I think it was so focused I'm proving a concept of something rather than trying to be the best Star Fox game it possibly could be That's just my opinion of course. I don't know I think we should ask them on what they think I mean, oh, yeah, always you guys could chime in Cuz crackdown threes obviously the game we're both most excited for I don't I love I love gears. So I did play It's legit good every time. So it's legit good every time. I think I stopped playing at three in middle of three. Yeah, so In Gears 4 was pretty good. I'm sure Gears 5 will be good. Is there any game? So there's not a lot of games right here for Microsoft and this has been kind of with them in Chastise for all year Is there any game you'd like to see them announced that isn't listed here? I mean, there's that one major franchise out there that it's been a few years Oh, God, the only thing that when you think of Xbox you think of what? Oh? Halo Yeah, another Halo game even though that they said they were done with Halo about what six times now eight times So I think that was before that was bungee. That was bungee. Yeah, bungee was done. Bungee is legit Yeah, they're not even right Microsoft has nothing to do with them anymore so Because there's been some whispers on the wind about a Halo 6 Whether or not that would I think a Halo 6 would be here an excellent launch title for the next console Yeah, for sure doesn't mean they can't tease it here, right? They could breath of the wild this SOV Tease it as a future Xbox and don't don't even say Xbox one just say a future Xbox release And then when you announce Xbox whenever that is actually that'd be that's launched. This would be the time to do it Show it off and if you're ready to do it just announce your next next console and say it's a launch launch game I mean, you know Do you actually do you actually think Microsoft or Sony are gonna announce their new systems this year? How long has it been since though the one X has been out The Xbox one X has only been out since November last year. Okay PlayStation 4 Pro was PlayStation's last mid-gen upgrade that was end of 2016 and PlayStation 4 and Xbox want to both end on the market since Right, I could see Sony. We're at five years this year, right technically Well, you know this holiday will be it's one of those things that I could see Sony announcing the PlayStation 5 But at the same point in time When you see all those games, no, I don't know. No, I know I know I know But at the same point in time I can see the argument for Microsoft because if they want to get rid of this this Stigma of the Xbox, you know, not having games right now or you Exclusive games what what better way than to announce a a new system with a an exclusive game sure Um, no, I hear you. I don't think we're getting any announcements this year. Hey Well, I remember Xbox one and PlayStation 4 were not even technically announced at E3 No, I know they had their own announcement event and then a big blow out at E3 And I'm not saying that they're gonna do that again because who knows they might change it up every console gen Yeah, but I do think that next year Next year. I think is the first year will finally see okay Maybe they'll tease it next year and release in 2020 or release at holiday next year Because then we're six years in Sony's gonna end it with a bunch of big games just like they did in PlayStation 3 I mean PlayStation 3 ended with like GTA 5 and the last of us in like the final year Like are you kidding? How do you end with two of the best games on the platform and then you say? Oh, by the way, go buy a new console here. Oh A month ago and I'll go buy it But it works it sounds backwards to us at least it sounds backwards to me because I'm used to Nintendo Well, they just abandoned they It's like the system doesn't even exist for the final year or two and then they bring you and they bring you a new platform Whereas Sony's like now we're gonna keep giving you great games up to the PlayStation 4 So you build trust that you should pick up this system day one because you know We're gonna keep bringing it all through the generation No reality is what they did with PlayStation 4. They didn't really bring it at all for almost two and a half years They hit you hard now. They're hitting you hard The worlds of the end of three so because well because this is the thing It's an interesting strategy because Nintendo hits you hard in the first two to two to two and a half to three years And then it gets really really dry Whereas PlayStation hits you really really hard in the last two and a half to three years And then it's really dry for the first couple years of the system It's like which strategy is better. I don't know because they both keep working get right I know as a gamer I'd rather just never have a dry spell and what helps Sony's case is that they have 100% full third-party support So that really fills in the gaps whereas Nintendo doesn't but I don't know I mean, maybe this is that maybe switches the time and we'll finally not go years With no like AAA game coming out because it really doesn't feel like making one right Thank you. We and we you Anyways Cool, well, I think I'm just looking at this Is there any third-party games you think I'm gonna show them that you're excited for for either of them? Because third-party games are always multi-plats. They could be shown at one or both or I can't I don't know The only one that madly is Madden. Yeah, that's about the only one tabs for a space both Sorry, I mean what no red dead. I'm too big. Oh, yeah. No, I know you're excited for that one And that's probably will be shown again at one of these conferences Whichever one has the marketing rights, you know, they always Just like the exclusive marketing rights for the first tell no one will be interesting If like Sony has marketing rights for Call of Duty, but then Microsoft is marketing rights for battlefield Yeah, kind of becomes like even though they're all both on for the same platform It is a completely pointless marketing battle Yeah, it would be funny to see Microsoft and Sony try to battle it out marketing Call of Duty versus battlefield They both have the game right I think that would just be a hilarious like just just just butt heads and duke it out in the market Yeah, these games when it's completely irrelevant because everyone gets to play it Yeah, you know, I mean there's that day one exclusive map pack that no one gives a crap about That one random person out there probably is that the the fanboys care Exclusive map a day one you can't get to a week later You can't get to a week later. Whoo Great There goes more sauce That's all right. It's all right. I'm not my way by the way with trouble games. I don't even come to yeah No, I mean more subs then Anyways, um, I guess we'll just end this by tossing it out to you guys out there What games are you most excited to see from Sony and Microsoft? You know, we didn't even throw like, you know, maybe there's a surprise game for rare coming in I know they just didn't see a thieves, but yeah, you could develop more than one game at a time That's like a thing that happens. Are you sure? Well, I don't know for air catcher and there's a lot of people that don't like see a thief So they think it doesn't matter as rare can't make a good game or whatever I happen to think see a thieves is is okay. It's People I think misunderstand what kind of game it is looks beautiful. Oh, yeah, and there's no doubt It's gorgeous. Anyways, um, you guys know if there's any of these games you're excited for any third-party games You want to see on these platforms? Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna complete the trifecta. Hopefully later this year, you know God willing everything goes well for me health-wise and money-wise and everything, but uh All right, I think that's gonna be it As I said, it's probably a shorter podcast because we're talking about stuff that we're not as knowledgeable about So I'd rather kind of throw the conversation out at you guys get it going heck You guys light up our knowledge other games We're missing on these lists that are supposed to be on here that are that are rumored or are known to be coming games That you know, hey, do we misspeak on some games? Right, let us know that these are the companies that we're not that I we pay attention to because we pay attention to whole industry Right, but we're not like Hawkeye news for Sony like we are for Nintendo, right? I could tell you prop I could tell you the financial results for Nintendo's sales of games in Japan and the UK and the last MPD report off the top of my head I can't tell you anything about what Sony and Xbox did. I can't so Because I don't pay enough attention because that's not what we do here I do I have to throw the caveat in here. Remember we are recording this on a Thursday before the Monday comes out So anything in between? You got to throw the caveat in there. All right Be sure to join us on our next episode which I can you believe it it lands on the Monday before E3? And it is the betting special which we will note when we record it We're gonna put down the day and time it started because the EA stuff and a bunch of third-party conferences do happen over that weekend Not a bunch. I think there's one other besides EA So some of our bets like might be answered before you even get to the betting special But you will know that we have recorded it beforehand So, you know that you hey, we just already have some points Well, nothing's finalist until after and after E3 because we might even have bets for like what's gonna be shown at the tree house Which that always sucks because just like last time for the tree house. We had to go back through all of the tree house footage That was fun Yay, that's what I want to do with my time. It's okay. I like watching the tree house footage Plus I'm gonna be reporting on news and I'm in conversations And I feel like even when we go hands-on with the games We should still see what the trio said interviews etc to formulate our conversations better But yeah, maybe I'll have someone maybe I'll have one of our moderators who plans to watch all of the tree house footage Go through and timestamp it for us. So, we know This is when they did that my attendance is when they smashed that way like If we say we got smashed off day one, you know, okay We're so we know we're gonna talk about smash today So we get our footage out and then let's have a conversation about it And let's make sure we see what tree house and everyone else said about it So like we have the full picture, but all right folks That's gonna be it I am the dinner over jams from Nintendo Prime and you are Eric more and you can catch him on Twitter at emo 87 90 You can find me at Ninty Prime or at Nate jams just follow the Ninty Prime. Oh, it's all it really matters You can also to follow us on Facebook at facebook.com slash Nintendo Prime Yeah, subscribe to us like our channel if you like it. 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I don't think it's cracked a thousand views But I have a feeling that that betting special. Yeah, people love bats. Yeah, they love that and they love watching Eric suffer I was gonna say are we gonna I'm the only one that's ever truly suffered Yeah There is that I mean and even the pie one which I had so much fun with yeah, you just got to take a shower And it's all done and I'm sitting in my office So really Really even though I win most of the time. I want everybody special. I'm the loser. Yeah, it's just for it It's funny how that works. I'm always the yeah. Yeah. Are we sure we're not gonna call it the watch Eric get bent special Eric losing special. Yeah, right. That used to be one. Yeah, right. You know, maybe this will be the time He thought he had me at the game awards. Oh God should have had me PUBG, but you know what? The thing is now we know now we have that league list of games out there. So it's like, oh, no am I So who's gonna take the fortnight bet that's now like a hundred percent guaranteed it right? Well, it's gonna be for tonight's gonna be there. Well, yeah, right. Yeah, I'm gonna pump G. I guess Hey, watch watch. Hope you think it's about something. I was giving you a point and I got it, right? I The cal tank pubg, you know, of course, you know, hey, hey, there is a small glimmer of hope that it will get destroyed But okay, I don't see it All right This is the Nintendo Prime podcast episode 67 rode the E3 week five to the next week for our betting special And then all of our E3 coverage gonna be wild. We're gonna have exclusive gameplay clips hands-on impressions a Podcast an extra bonus podcast that week in person. Hopefully with four of us If not for these three, I'm not sure who those guests are gonna be yet We're meeting up with different people who have time who makes things work. We'll find out and yeah, we're gonna be Live coverage from E3 that's not actually live, but it's coverage from at the basically we have an entire week's worth Coverage from us actually being a non-live live looking at E3 How do you cut like do you guys have suggestions for how I advertise it like so I'm always like yeah live coverage from E3 But we're not really live. But what it is is we have coverage from a three itself Like we're actually gonna be at E3 covering it. What do you call that coverage on site on? Site coverage E3. Does that sounds like a lame kind of it's not epic I mean by the way if we can pull it off We are gonna attempt to have some live stream discussions with you guys Q&A's and all that stuff If it works out for us, we don't know if it's gonna work out for us because we haven't got to the Internet yet to test it out Hey Including the day that that comes out the day that the road E3 Week six podcast comes out We I that's the Monday I plan to once I think the Sony conference is done do a Q&A thing with that if because then we don't have any videos to upload But we'll see we'll see what happens Maybe I'll be live streaming all day because we can somehow get that to work the hotel claims that I'm not talking about like high-speed internet Everyone thinks like one megabytes high-speed internet So but they claim to have the fastest hotel internet in LA but that might just be it's two megabytes for a second It's dial-up All right, folks. We'll catch you next week now one other thing before we oh That we can possibly cut out there. We could possibly cut out it I'm just gonna get I'm just gonna question you should we throw it to them on our punishment again. Yes, okay folks Anyone who's mentioned the end of the podcast you have the right and the privilege to give punishment suggestions Down in the comments, of course on what should happen to the loser of the betting special now We would prefer if it was something that could be done while we're out in LA If it's not and it's something we have to do when we get back here That's fine as well Like if you if you want to be a lot live live stream stand-up comedy or something I'm just throwing ideas out that I have but those are my ideas Yeah, and I like to have to collaborate a little bit on these ideas because otherwise it just seems like it's a side out Right, right. Oh Jesus. It's almost like I plan for Eric to lose. Yeah, right? Yeah. All right, folks. We'll catch you next time Cool, cool. Nice and short. Keep it. I don't know if we hit it now. Keep it legal Whoo Might be the shit. Oh, there it goes Yeah, right I don't know but kill the stream