 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump, mind pump, with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this random episode of Mind Pump, make sure you hang into the end because we get into some really good health and fitness stuff when we get towards the end, but we definitely might piss some people off with some of the political shit. Adam, Justin, and I actually have no direction in this podcast. This is not a Q and A, we just go off. Well, it's been a while since we just lit the mics up and just talked about what's on our mind right now, huh? Yeah. Thought it would be a good time since we're all fast and we're all clear minded. They sure as not throwback Thursday. Yeah, it went crazy. We talked about winning and losing. Adam had a funny shit story. We talked about dogs. Car accidents. Yeah, dogs value to human evolution. We got into politics. We got into Adam's bachelor party. We talked about our fast. Then we end on the fast. We talk a lot about the 72 hour fast that I'm starting Justin and Adam. Actually, by the time this airs, we will have been completing this fast. Doug is doing it too. And I think our girlfriends and wives are all doing this too. So it's kind of cool if you listen to the very end, we kind of talk about the synergy, what we're doing during the fast. A lot of it involves not eating, how we're going to get out of fast, what we hope to get out of this pretty complicated, this whole process. Also, you are in January. You know what that means? Oh yeah. That means you can get a free mind pump t-shirt. Oh, that's what it means. Yeah. Now let me tell you something about that mind pump t-shirt. Tell us how special it is, Sal. They actually ran some studies on it and they found that people put the shirt on, have 50% more orgasms. What? Get laid 30% more often. Is it because it like the friction on the nipples or what? It's because the shirts are woven from 30% more. They're woven. Justin, you hear that? You better get that on right away. That means you can have sex at least three times this month. Special guaranteed. Special Yak fur, special Yak fur t-shirt. Now, most of that was false, but here's the true part. You do get a free t-shirt. Here's all you got to do. Enroll in any of our bundles. That's exciting because you were going to do that anyway, weren't you? You are already going to get a maps bundle. In fact, you are going to get the maps super bundle because you're serious about your fitness and you want your whole year planned out for you. You want to wake up in the morning. You want to think about what you got to do. You just want to get on your phone, click on the site, log into your membership portal, look up your workout for today. Follow the videos where Adam, Justin and myself are teaching you what to do. The only like expert personal trainers would, not like stupid fitness celebrities would. And you follow the program. And at the end of the year, you're fucking awesome. More awesome than you are now. Oh yeah. Enroll in the super bundle. You get a free t-shirt. Enroll in any of the bundles. You get a free t-shirt. Are you sure it wasn't horny goat fur? I'm positive, Justin. By the way, if you want to get those, I got to tell you where to go, mindpumpmedia.com. Skilly me dee, bee dee, bee deew. Skilly dee, bee deew. I love you. That was good. That was a. That was fantastical. That was really, hey. Did we really open up with that? So apparently there's a, I don't know what it is, it's like a website or something. Find out words that are coming in the future. No, not quite, but it's a way to petition. So you set up a petition for a word, like a new word. Like this is a word that we would like to be put in the Webster's dictionary or whatever. Share with them, Sal. Tell them. One of the words that is being petitioned is electronical. Boom. Electronical. Boom. This is for all you fuckers talking shit. It's coming. So what I was going to say is. So there's other people in the world like you. Well, Adam may actually be so brilliant that he's not making words up, Justin. He's just speaking from the future. Wow. I believe this is true. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. In the future, they're going to drop the R from library and they're going to take it out and just be library. Wow. You know what I mean? That's one makes way. Electronical is the other one. They're not going to use the word craze anymore. Anadote. Anadote. It's another one. Anadote. Like these are all futuristic words. What are the other ones that everybody loves to point out? I don't know. I love whenever, as soon as someone gets an opportunity to everyone's just like, I don't know. Like I don't know dude. So last night I watched my son's basketball game again. They're undefeated, dude. Wow. Was that 6-0? Yeah. He's really getting into it. It's like 4 or 5-0. So he's made a couple baskets, which is cool. It's exciting. There's one guy on his team that's really, really good. But I can see how the coach does such a good job coaching them because you can see all the moving parts. Everything as a kid, man. If you've got a good coach, it really separates. Like I can always tell when I'm watching little league type games or with that. Like the team that's just whooping the other teams out. It's an oiled machine versus an individual. Because at that level, the kids aren't really separating themselves yet. Like you said, you could tell there's one kid who's really good. But I mean, for the most part, he's not so dominant. He could take over an entire game. Like when you start getting into high school and college, that's where you really see the separation. At that age, it's really do you have the ability to organize these kids together and get them to focus on simple little goals? And that's what they do. You can see how they're doing the zone defense. And they're all like, it's been hammered into their heads. Like this is what you do. Don't do anything else. And this is the plays that you do. Don't do anything else. So two of the players score most of the points on my son's team. So the other, so we get to the half, what is it called? Half time. Half time, thank you. And we, oh, here's the other thing that's annoying, by the way. I'm not quite sure what the lead is, but if you score so many points more than the other team. Oh, it's a mercy rule. They stop giving you points. Oh, they just stuck it in basketball? But they keep them playing? They keep them playing, but you can't score anymore. Then you can't be more than only did that at T-ball. Do you know how stupid that is? Well, I don't think it's stupid to have a mercy role where you just end the game. No, they didn't end it. But to keep it going and then to stop the score accounting is kind of lame. It's ridiculous. Plus, here's the thing, like let the other team receive the beating that they're going to get. Let them get the shellacking so they know what real life is. Think of the valuable lessons you get. Oh, yeah. Many times it's happened to me. Not only that, but I think it's also there's also something to be said about the kids that are giving the ass beating, because they're also learning a lesson of like, look, when you guys run the system, when we play together as a team, we whooped the shit out of these kids. I can't wait. This is what I would hope. You get all the people on the bench out there. It's like a good old time. Yeah, I can't wait for them. Let's say they dominated these teams and just blew them out of the water, and then the encounter team that doesn't happen, and their challenge, and their character's challenged, or they lose, talk about a great opportunity. You know what I'm saying? But you don't get that when you don't let kids get their ass is kicked. I remember when I was in Jiu-Jitsu. I'll never forget this, dude. I'm doing Jiu-Jitsu. This is towards the end of my whatever you want to call it, Jiu-Jitsu career, close to when I stop. So by this point, I've been training for, I don't know, five and a half years. I'm a purple belt, or just got a purple belt. So when you get to purple, you can kinda teach class and you're pretty good. And in my school, I was legit, I was pretty good. I didn't compete on like these crazy levels, but I was pretty good at my school. This dude visits from Brazil, and this guy comes over and he's a black belt. Now at this point, I could go against other black belts, and although I would usually lose, I could kinda hold my own, especially when it was Nogi. So this was Nogi training, and this guy comes from Brazil, and he's about my size, so he's a pretty big guy. And we go Nogi, and usually when I go against black belts, I can, like I said, I can hold my own, especially Nogi, and sometimes I'll win. This guy, he beat me so fast, and so often, and so easily, it was the biggest ego check of my entire life. But I learned so much from getting my ass kicked by this guy, but I'll never forget where I, like you guys have never done Jiu-Jitsu, but like I'd put my hands on him and tap out. I'd put my supplies in all sports. Like as soon as I put my hands on him, I'd have to be prepared to tap out, or I was gonna get, because he was so fast and so accurate with his positions to the point where towards the end, I was laughing because I couldn't do anything, and then he would start laughing. So then I'm like, you need to teach me what you're doing. So then he would do this thing where he would do a countdown on me, which is fucking humiliating, but it's great. Oh, like countdown before he does the move to you, or whatever? Bro, he would tell me what he was gonna do. He's like, okay, the next thing I'm gonna do on you is I'm gonna arm lock your right arm from the guard. And he'd say, ready, go. And he'd go, 10, nine. And I'd see what he was doing and I couldn't stop him. And he'd get me a fucking arm lock. But great, then afterwards he taught me and I saw what he did and I learned my positioning. So, that's legit. Yeah, let my team, let them lose. Dude, I have a story for you guys last night. So listen to this. So I feel, you know, Katrina, I love my girl, man. She is, right now I'm- You're about to make some, make fun of her or something. I had a preface of a little shit sandwich coming. Right, right. Before I say this. Well, listen, I mean, this woman right now, aside from everything that she does at her own job where she works ridiculous hours and on top of helping me out, you know, with our business. And then on top of that, I've got what I'm going through with the testosterone thing. I got what I'm going through right now with the torn Achilles right now. And then I get really sick last week. So she is just waiting on me hand and foot. And you know what, for the most part, she does run the household. But I think this last week or so, she's realized like there are some little things that I actually do do. She's missing like the caring and the groceries and all this stuff. And we have two stories, right? So she's constantly like running up and down the stairs and doing things for me. And I hate that as it is. And so last night we finally get settled in and we're sitting down to watch a little TV. It's like eight o'clock at night. And you can just, she plops down. She's got me served. She got my meals done. The dogs have been fed. Everyone's taken care of. Finally finished wrapping up work stuff. It's eight o'clock. We're gonna sit down and just relax for a second. She sits down and like catches her breath. We're there for maybe about 15 minutes getting into our show. And Bentley comes walking over and he's kind of like putting his paws up on the couch. And you know, I can just tell when the dogs are trying to get your attention. And they've got wild personalities. And I look at it and I go, did you feed the boys? And she's like, yes, I already fed the boys. I can tell she's just like once to unwind. And I'm like, there's some, Bentley's, I think he might have to go to the bathroom then, huh? And she's like, and that's going all the way downstairs letting him back out. And she did that already a few hours ago. So she's like, no, no, no, he's fine. He's fine. And I'm like, I don't know, huh? And I think he has to go to the bathroom. And she's like, no, no, he's fine. He's fine. And I know that part of that is really, she's just fucking tired. So I just, okay, whatever. I leave it alone. No big deal. About five minutes later, Bentley walks over in front of the TV or watching, looks right at us, squats down and shits. It's just like looking at you with his eyes straight. He don't even, he don't ever shit, he don't shit in the house first of all. He definitely don't shit in front of the TV like that on the wood floor. He's like, I warned you and here it is. He walks right over. I'm laying up there, my legs elevated. She's icing me and stuff like that. Bentley walks in front of the TV, looks right at us and then squats down and legs the biggest shit ever. Oh no. And I just start fucking laughing. And she's a great sport cause I know inside she's pissed cause she knows she's gotta get up and be the one to clean it and shit, right? So she's like, fuck. You know, gets up, shakes her head, has to go clean the lead amounts. How do you clean up a dog shit like that? There's little, I mean, it's not that hard. It leaves, yeah. But you just get a plastic bag. Well, so it's hardwood floor. So it's actually easy to do it on the hardwood floor. Does it give him a crack? The aroma's there though for a bit. Yeah, that's the real pain in the ass is now the aroma's there. I like how you guys reference the shit smell as aroma. Isn't that like the particles of shit flying around you? But when I think of aroma, I think of food. You know what I mean? I think of poop. What? Yeah, like aroma. But it leaves a better word. Yeah. Smell. Leaves a shit smell in the house for me. We got one of those fans that exhaust fans in the house. So those work pretty good actually for heat and for smells. Like, so if I got like a bad smell or if I got something going on in the house where it's really hot, you switch that exhaust power. Dogs are funny, man. Yeah, they are funny. That reminds me of when my daughter was little, my daughter's got this personality where if she's, she can be a little terror if she wants to be. She's eight now, so it's a lot less. But when she was real young, she was a little terror. And so I'll never forget, she was in her high chair eating and when she was done with her food, she had this habit of throwing the rest of her food on the floor. That's how you knew she was done. She'd just, she'd eat and then she was done. She'd go whoosh and just knock everything over. And I tell her, don't throw your food on the floor. So she's eating her food and I can tell she's about to do it. And I said, hey, don't throw your food on the floor. And she like has her hand kind of halfway about to do it. And she looks right at me and she does it real slow. Good. It's like, I'm doing it anyway. Just wipes it all on the floor. And I'm like, ah, beatings. Kids and children beatings. The Bulldogs are the closest dogs. I've had dogs my whole life but they're definitely the closest dogs I've ever had to have like human like personality. What kind of dogs have you had before that? Oh my God. I've had Retrievers, Labs, Shepherds, Rottweilers. Is the Bullies your favorite? Yeah. They're my favorite. They're the most work. So they're, by far, they're not like an easy dog. So if you're somebody who just like wants a dog that you can just put in the backyard and then go throw a ball with it on the weekends, like it's not the dog for you. It's like having a little human. I think that anyone who's thinking about having a kid having an English Bulldogs are the same way. Really? Well, they need a lot of exercise too. Well, they need all that and they follow you around everywhere. Oh, I like that though. Which is great. Dude, I love it. Like that's like, it turned into one of those things that I love about the breed. But yeah, dude, I've been going through the same like, like just like trying to make sure like everybody's on the same schedule of how we're like training, you know, this puppy. And that's been just like quite the fiasco, you know? Cause I have a way of doing things and then trying to get the kids to like understand how to, you know, get them from not like just chewing on everything and chewing on them. And, you know, like getting him out when I asked them to get him out. So the only time he's even, he's been really good though so far, but the only time he's had an accident is cause like I told, we're trying to sleep like an extra couple of minutes, you know and the kids are up and kind of watching TV. And so they're focused on that. He's right next to them. He's taking a shit. And he's like, you're like whimpers. And he's like shitting right next to my son didn't take him out or anything. And oh my God, I woke up so pissed off. No, I used to have. So I grew up with American pit bull terriers. So I love bully breeds, all bully breeds. Whether it's a, you know, bulldog or a pit bull or whatever. And we grew up with pit bulls and we had one that was 90 pounds and he was extreme like most pit bulls extremely muscular and athletic. This dog used to jump and hang on the fence with his legs and just watch people walking by. So we used to get people would ring our doorbell all the time and be like, because you'd freak people out cause it's big old, yeah. He's got this big old pit bull head and he would just hang and he'd watch people walking by and it's like, oh shit. So at one point. So when I was a kid, when I was really young, we had the first pit bull that we ever had and the mailman stopped delivering our mail. He didn't do anything to the dog. The dog didn't do anything to him but it was because he was just scared of. And this was in the 80s when there was like that whole fervor about pit bulls was this big deal. And everybody was scared of him or whatever. Yeah, it's so ridiculous. The media made such a big deal about that. We wouldn't even get our mail. We had to go to the post office to get our mail cause we were afraid of our dog. Oh man. My brother, my little brother had a dog. So my step brother, his parents house, that it was a bull massive, right? Those are massive. Oh, they're massive. And when they stand on their feet, stand up all the way, they'll be over six foot tall. And so this dog could actually stand up and look over an eight foot fence. So you would walk up and he would just be same idea except he's not hanging there like you said. That's so crazy. He would just put his paws up and he'd look over like somebody to become walking up the drive. A dog from the sand lot. And they're, yeah. And he's massive, dude. Talk about like the best like detour for people trying to come around. Yeah, you ain't going in there to rob us. I know people like animal lovers, especially like vegans, they put, they like to say that all animals should be treated a particular way and there's no hierarchy. But I can't agree with that, man. I think when you look at animals like dogs in particular and horses, they're a little higher on the fricking totem pole if you ask me. These are animals that were so domesticated. Well, no, they're just, I mean, lots of animals are domesticated but horses and dogs were key like components to human evolution. If we didn't have dogs, for example, I don't know if humans would have made it at all. And same thing with horses. What's your theory on that? On dogs? Yeah, yeah. Oh. Well, so very- With human evolution, I'm curious. Oh, so it's a very interesting relationship. A warning. Yeah, it's a very interesting relationship. So dogs came from wolves, obviously. And the first wolves to figure out that if they hung around and kept other danger away from us that humans would throw the scraps to them. They'd give them scraps, yeah. And so what happened is through selective breeding where the wolves that were not so afraid of humans and didn't attack us, they stayed around, they bred into, had other pups or whatever. And little by little, we turned these wolves into these domesticated type of animals that we would feed, they would help us hunt, they would protect us, they would bark. And they started- I didn't know that's how that happened. Yeah, and they started taking on the characteristics of puppies. So like barking, lots of barking, that is a puppy characteristic that is not a mature wolf characteristic. But the reason why dogs have these puppy characteristics is humans find them cute. And so they evolve to be cuter. They evolved into, yeah, what we like determine, basically. And they have a very interesting genome where you can take, because think about it. The smallest breed and the largest breed, all didn't exist not that long ago. It was very, very short per time when we turned the wolf into all the crazy breeds that we see now. And that's because there's something in their genome that allows them to evolve very, very, very quickly where we can specifically breed them to turn dogs into expert rat hunters or the point whenever they see something that we need to go get, or they're good at swimming and they love the water or drugs. Or yeah, or exactly. So they were- It's a lot like, it's like that symbiotic relationship. It's like fish that have like cleaner fish that eat like parasites off of them and all that stuff. It's like you're almost like paired to another organism and you both evolve together. Humans needed dogs and dogs needed humans to the point where they do these studies where they'll take like a person and a wolf and they'll put food underneath the particular types hidden under bowls or whatever. And the wolf will try and search for it. And if it doesn't find it, it just keeps looking. A dog will come in, will look, and then after a certain point it stops and it looks up to the human for help. It's almost like it's just bred into them where they rely on humans for cues to help- Now explain to rat people. I'm still trying to figure that one out. I like cats. I mean, they're all right, but you know, it's not like, it's a cat versus dogs. Please, what's your argument? Bro, cats are wild. You ever seen like a regular cat outside like hunt a bird? What do they do for us? Yeah, cats are cool. I didn't even give a shit about us. Not much for companionship though. No, no, no, no. They're about their own deal, you know what I'm saying? No, dogs are legit, very important for human civilization and horses are the other one. Horses are extremely important. Oh yeah. And then all the other- You've got us everywhere. All the other work animals like ox and stuff like that, but dogs for sure. So I placed them on such a high pedestal when it comes to other animals that, you know, I look at a dog and I look at them almost like a human. Like this is something, you know, this is an animal. And everybody shits on insects. Yeah, fuck insects. That's where we're gonna end up eating a rat. Eating, you know, I just read this article. So the hustle guy, we just had him in here, a Sam Parr, right? So I'm super fascinated with his business. I subscribed to his newsletter. And the article yesterday that was in there was talking about rotisserie chicken. Did you read this by any chance? Oh yeah, I also read the tech breakdown. This is pretty fascinating. I think we do, I think I read $250 million a year in rotisserie chicken is sold. And this is something that knew, it happened in Boston Market, like back in 1990 something or 2000 something where- I used to be all about the Boston Market. Where Boston Market came up with this idea where they sell you like the whole chicken. That was brilliant. And it went bananas. It completely revived the business. And that's how Boston Market survived during this time. And then you see later on, now Safeway, now Costco. Safeway and Rayleigh's, Costco, yeah, right. And it's just because it's such an incredible deal. You get for $4.99, you get this whole chicken, right? There it is, Doug, thank you. So this is, oh, $625 million, I was wrong. So $625 million rotisserie chickens at grocery store chains across the country. So Costco's got their hands in Boston Market 1990s. 1994 is what it says. Thank you, Doug. And I didn't know this either. They actually pump it with a half a pound of salt water. Oh yeah, to plump it up. Yeah, to plump it up so it weighs more. It looks like you're getting a lot more in there. I didn't know that. I didn't know that was juicier. Bro, do you know how much shit they do to your food to increase its palatability? Even food that you think is all natural and whatever? Just to change the look and the texture of it because they know you'll eat more of it. It's a fucking game. I found out about my favorite tri-tip that I always used to get from Costco and they just totally inject it with all the saline and all that kind of stuff with the seasoning. But it's like so good. Dude, what about salmon? They color it to make it pink or whatever. So you're more likely to buy it because it's pink. That's so funny. Yeah, you know what they do? You know what a lot of companies do with these rotisserie chickens is like Whole Foods and Costco, I believe. I think they lose money on the chicken. No, it talks about in the article. Oh, does it? Yeah, it actually eats. Because they know that once you go there to buy that. The idea of this, exactly, that's exactly what they do. So they talk about it in this article that that's what they did it to save the business because they found that if we got people here to buy this chicken for $4.99 that we're not really making any money on, it's kind of a wash that you would end up buying other things while you were there. Dude, that's the strategy a lot of grocery stores do. So Whole Foods now that Amazon has bought them, I've noticed that they've lowered the prices on a lot of key products. For example, bottled water. So you know the big gallon bottled water that you'll get like the Crystal Guys or whatever. They used to sell it for like $1.25. Now it's always 98 cents. 98 cents, 98 cents. And I find myself, I remember not going to Whole Foods specifically because the water was more expensive even though it's super irrational when I think about it because it's only another 20 cents. Everything else is so expensive, right? But now that I know that it's 98 cents which is cheaper than anyone else, I tend to shop more Whole Foods. I caught myself doing that and like, fuck. That's a smart strategy. Well, in a sense Thrive Market kind of does that with the whole membership concept. Their prices are so damn low, you gotta be like, there's no way you're making that much money off this and they're not, but they know they're gonna get you on the membership every year. They're like, oh, because we have this many people in the shop. Well, I think what they're doing is they're getting, they have better margins on their brand. That too. Yeah, that's gotta be the big one. Oh, absolutely. So supplement stores do this also. That's the same hustle with them is, you get a supplement store and you try and offer every supplement on the market and you keep your margins extremely low. So you're not making a lot of money there but then you have your own line there in hopes that, hey, 25% of the people that walk through this door will try out our brand and if they try out our brand, we're making 75% or something ridiculous, right? The margins are incredible that way. Wow. Hey, I got some messages today. Remember, we did the episode and we talked about how Oprah was running for president and I was joking around that people are gonna find all kinds of shit on her. Sure enough, man, they're posting pictures left and right of her. Already? Of her? Damn it. Because you know, what's his name? Harvey Weinstein? Yeah. The scumbag shit fuck. Her talking to him? Well, she was like a good friend of his. Like very, very good friends and there's pictures of her. Like a really good friend or so there's a picture of her. Oh, like a good friend. And just pictures of her with him and then her with him, introducing like young actresses to him. So now they're gonna, now they're saying, oh, look, you were in a... Speculating. In enabler. Stupid. Dude, you gotta stay out of that business. Damn. Just so dirty. Just mention you might run and you get fucked. Well, you can mention you might run but if you actually pose a threat, cause I can mention I can run and nobody can do shit. Oprah is definitely a threat. Oprah's a big threat. Well, didn't you say that they already did some polls and they actually said that they, well, I mean, and I believe that. Those polls are shit though. Right. Usually they're not, but they were such a waste. Well, and all the polls were wrong with Trump winning in the first place. So it's not really like it's a big deal. Well, who fills out polls? You know what I mean? Like, where are they getting people to fill it out? It's just random, they'll... Can we talk about how fucked up and stupid I think our voting system is? Why? I just think it's silly. I just don't... How would it, should it be? Well, I think that you should have to pass a test. Really? Yeah. And part of the test should be you should be a citizen who pays their taxes, right? I think you should have to pay your taxes and be a citizen to be able to vote. And I also think that you should be able to pass a very basic test before you decide if your vote goes in on who's gonna be an officer. So here's one. Because let's be honest, okay? 90% of the motherfuckers I've ever met that tell me and vote and they start arguing their point. It's like, I'm listening to them going like, you don't even fucking know what you're talking about right now. You heard some shit on CNN or you heard some shit on Fox. It's all emotionally based. You read one fucking article or you heard someone slam that person so you're taking sides. Nobody really understands. So here's why... That nobody, that's an overginalization. Very few people. Here's why that doesn't exist. First off, who administers the test and who determines what's on that test? That is a big if and who and what. The second you give somebody the power to create a barrier to voting, you have given somebody an incredible power and with that power now, they can persuade you one way in their direction. Oh, they can decide who's gonna pass the test and who isn't. All right, here's some questions we're gonna ask. Then they can say... Or group certain demographics. They can target it based off of like, oh, this community only knows this type of information. They don't make it crazy. Then go back to what you contribute to our society or maybe make votes worth different things. I don't think the fucking kid who's eight, just turned 18 years old, doesn't know shit about anything, should have the same say as the guy who's 60 years old, started three businesses, is way more educated and informed. Should have their vote, should weigh the same? You don't want to give more power to somebody based on arbitrary whatever. So let's say you determine, okay, if you've done, if you contribute more to society, first off, what does that mean? But let's just say, fine, you've started three business or whatever, you have more votes in the sky over here. And I'm just throwing random shit out there. That's what it is. Well, you are accelerating our path towards an oligarchy. You're accelerating the path of the powerful now, run the country and, which it already kind of is that way, but it'll get much, much worse. That's number one. Number two, the problem isn't who gets the vote. The problem is that we've allowed our fundamental liberties to be infringed upon. What I mean by that is, the constitution and the Bill of Rights was designed to prevent tyranny, in particular, tyranny of the majority. So tyranny means that somebody can steal from you, somebody can hurt you, somebody owns your body aside from yourself. That's tyranny. If I came over here and I said, hey, you have to do what I say or I'm gonna throw you in jail and you have to give me this or I'm gonna throw all that stuff. So that's what the Bill of Rights, that's why it exists and that's why we're a constitutional republic. What that means is we are a democracy in who we vote for, but there's certain things you can't vote for. For example, the majority of America should not be able to vote to steal your property or to infringe on these liberties. The problem is we've done that already. The problem is we have taxes, which are an infringement on liberty because if I don't agree to pay something, now you can, through threat of force, take from me, which means now, theoretically, 51% of the population can vote to take 100% of my property and I can't do anything about it. So the problem isn't who gets to vote. The problem is we've infringed on all these liberties. So now it's like, fuck, now you have 47% of the country who pays no federal taxes and if that ever becomes a majority, well, now you're fucked and this is what happens to all pure democracies throughout history. If you study history, you'll find that pure democracies always end in ruin because at some point, the majority starts to vote themselves, everybody else's stuff and then you run out of stuff and then everything goes to shit. So then how would you do it? How you would do it is you would stick to the Bill of Rights. The problem is we've fucked it off. We've totally fucked it off and it's crazy. And I think part of it is that people are so spoiled and we've been through, we've been now in such good time for so long that we take things for granted. Like for example, right now, and I'm not sure when this episode is gonna air, but right now there's something going through Congress that, and I believe Rand Paul might filibuster this. I don't know if you guys know what that is, but where the government will be able to survey you, listen to your phone calls or look at your emails without due process. Now this has been a problem in the past, but they have to renew it or whatever. Like that's a major assault on liberty. In addition to like the Patriot Act, because that was like the start of all this, right? The big brother. That is, well that's part of it I think. You have the Patriot Act, you have the NDAA, the National Defense Authorization Act and these types of things basically erode your liberties. And so when we have those things, they didn't matter, now it matters all of a sudden. Here's another good example. There's, they passed a soda tax in Seattle, I don't know if you guys saw this, where sodas now have to pay an extra tax. So now if you buy like a 12 pack of soda, the price went up like 50, it's like a ridiculous jump in price. And the rationale is this is gonna make people healthier, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, they're gonna let you say, it can create a black market, but here's the argument for that. We think we should be able to tell you what you eat and what you can do, because now we're paying for your healthcare. And that makes sense. Now that I'm being forced to pay for your shit, well now I should be able to tell you what you can and can't do, because otherwise you're gonna cost me more money, and you go down that slippery slope. Now if we back up a little bit and we say, you fuck yourself up man, you pay for yourself, like if I wanna help you out of my own free will, and if there's charities and people wanna help you out, there's nothing wrong with that. But I shouldn't be forced to do it, because the second I get forced, now I should have a say in terms of what you do, and now we go down that path, and we don't wanna go down that path. Nobody wants to go down that path. So it's just, fuck man, it's just the direction we've been going for a long time. When do you think it really started that direction? Because when you think about it, that's how we built this. That's how America was built. It was built that way. Well, if you talk about federal taxes, there's been this argument for a long time. A lot of people have gone to jail over this, but they've made a pretty compelling argument that it was never, it was never put in the Constitution, it was never ratified by all the states. So federal taxes are actually, like you don't legally have to do them. In fact, people have gone all the way to, I'm not sure, I think they've gone to the Supreme Court to argue that. Doug might know better than I do, but this has been an argument for a long time. We used to put things as amendment in the Constitution when we thought they would infringe on a liberty. So you can actually change the Bill of Rights, you just have to go through this long hard process, but nowadays they don't even do that anymore. A lot of that comes from when we're scared. So like World War II comes around and you've got, we need to seize all the gold, everybody's gold, this is a law now. Or if you're a Japanese, even if you're born in America, but you have your parents or Japanese immigrants, we're gonna put you in these internment camps for our safety. Like these are all major infringements on liberty and it's all because people get, they all get freaked out. Right now like the government isn't monitoring the internet. It doesn't control the internet, it's pretty free, right? Well, let's say tomorrow there was a major cyber attack. Let's say everybody's bank account all of a sudden got erased and it was this huge like crazy calamity. And then the government comes out and says, hey, we need to fucking make sure everybody's safe. We need, we're gonna pass this, you know, internet safety act, they'll name it something that sounds good. So we have all 100% control the internet so we can make sure this never happens again. I guarantee you majority of Americans would vote for that shit and then we lost our freedom with our internet. And that's just the game that- Don't you think if that were to happen though, that then we would just create another internet that was free. I think that we'll always have that. I think the rebellion will always live, John. Yeah, yeah. Right, don't you think? It's rebel alliance. Right, the rebel alliance will always exist, right? I mean- That's why these stories keep coming out. You know, you get the matrix, you get like this overwhelming, you know, force that's controlling everything and there's people that are always gonna oppose that. Dude, it's like we take so much for granted, like DUI stop, you know, the automatic DUI stops. Here's a controversial one, where no matter who you are, you have to stop and they stop and they check you to see if you're drunk. And most people are like, well, that's a good thing because, you know, it keeps people, no, that's a search, there's search and seizure without due process or anything. They're just stopping you without any probable cause just cause you're driving through this intersection, that's probably not a good thing. Seatbelt laws is another one. Like there's a law that says you have to wear a seatbelt. Like this is- Like mandating it, yeah. Yeah, no, I think it's a good idea to put on a fucking seatbelt. Of course, it's a good idea to wear one, but it's like you forcing and like taking money for not wearing one, like I don't understand that. That's your own decision. Right, but then we go down the other path of, well, if he gets in an accident, gets super injured, goes to the hospital. Oh yeah, cause everybody's hospital- It could like you to your earlier point that we'd have to pay for it, right? In a sense, if we look at it that way. Yeah, but isn't there stats on that anyways? Like the difference between wearing a belt or not wearing a belt? I don't know, I think it's pretty safe to wear one. Yeah. No, I actually don't think, I think the stats show that it's not that much safer. Really? Yeah, I don't think it's that much, it's not as crazy as you think it is. I think, yeah. I mean there's cases for both. I gotta look at you. Dude, I watched a video, so you know what Jessica does in the car that really gets on my nerves and it's okay if she hears this guy tell her all the time. She puts her feet up on the dash when I'm driving. Do you know how dangerous that is? Oh yeah. If you get an accident. You get a smash in the air. So I watched this video on YouTube where they had these dummies that they used to test like ballistics and shit and it has like fake bones and like flesh that's like a human or whatever and when the airbag comes out it fucking shatters. It shatters much force. Shatters the legs. Shatters the lower body. Yeah, how many PSI is that? It's a ton, huh? Dude, it's crazy. Have you guys ever hit an airbag? I've seen somebody get launched from an airbag, you remember those little jackass sketches? Like they literally put that underneath somebody's like sitting on the couch and it would launch them up into the air. No, no. It's fucking crazy. No. They got that much power, huh? Yeah. Dude, it's like hitting, my friend hit an airbag with her face and she said it felt like if someone took a really pumped up basketball and just threw it as hard as they could at your face. Damn, like that? Like overhand throw, just boom right to the dome. Damn, that's crazy. I didn't know it was that bad. Doug just pulled it up, seatbelt. It says 15,000, 13,000 lives a year. Or saved. That's not a lot. I'm not impressed. I'm not impressed with that. Impressed seatbelts. Yeah, how many accidents are there though? You know what I'm saying? I don't think it's, I think that's a bullshit number. How do you figure that number anyway? Yeah, I know, right? Cause cars are so much safer now. Right, and how do you know it was cause he was wearing a seatbelt, it was safe. That's bull. It's on the engineering now too. It compresses like all the support to stupid law. Every car totals now, even if you get a scratch. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's just like. Yeah, they're designed to fall apart, right? The old school cars are like tanks. Yeah, like my truck, when I used to drive that, it was just like, I get like one little dent in the fender and any other thing in my path is just gonna be strong. Have you guys ever been in a major car accident? I have. Not a major one, just like some minor one. You've been in a major one? Yep, well, pretty major. I was T-boned in my total, my uncle's Mustang. I was 17, God, dude, this is fucking going down memory lane here. I'll never forget this night. This is one of the scariest nights in my life. I was 17 where it was in high school, right? So I'm a senior in high school. Friday nights was football nights and we'd go watch the football game then afterwards it'd be the after party and my cousin and I are at a house party and we start having a couple beers and we decide that we wanna go to a different party. That's like kind of out in the country a little bit, like maybe 10 minutes away. And he's driving his dad's Mustang, Mach 1. It's like a 1969 or so. Oh, that's a nice one, huh? Yeah, it's a badass. It's not like super nice, but it's nice still, you know what I'm saying? For a couple 17 year olds. Yeah, yeah, right. And it's all beefed up and stuff, so it's cool and he's got it. And my cousin had had like three beers and I had one beer. And so I said, hey man, you've had more beers. Why don't I drive? I'll drive, I've only had one beer, so I'll drive. And I really wanna drive the Mustang is what's going down, right? And so he's like, all right, he throws me the keys and we take off. Well, we throw three cases of beer in the trunk and we take off to this other party. And the house that we're heading to, I've never been to this house so we're in it's dark and we're out in the country and we think we're coming up on the road in the address and it's like this long, you know, country roads out in the middle of nowhere and it's just a two lane road. And there's a truck that's kind of barreling down behind me. That's an old Chevy pickup, like Justin's. And I'm getting ready to turn left into this driveway. And the guy behind me must think that I'm my blink, I turn my blinker on and I turn my blinker on and go left. I remember right. But he must think that I'm turning right and he speeds up to go around me. And so I turn and he was already barreling down on me. So he hit me at going like a good 45, 50 miles an hour minimum, I don't remember what they estimated based off his skid marks and stuff. But I go to turn in and he locks him up and it doesn't matter. He's straight, wak, T bones right in the side of the Mustang. Thank God it was an old, old Mustang like that because it did, it hit my driver's side, the side that I was on. I was totally fine. I mean, I got banged up a little bit, a little cut on my head and this and that. He got out of the car and his entire face was covered in blood. And he comes over to us like kind of freaking out trying to blame it on us. Like what are you talking about? That was your fault. And we're fucking scared of death because you drank two beers. I drank a beer because of beers. We're all underage. I got three cases of beer in the trunk. And this guy, it's a Friday late night. So this guy we think was drunk himself because he's bleeding is with his girlfriend. He's freaking out. And he's like, I got to get out of here. I'm like, well, you can't leave. And he's just like, here's my driver's license. I got to go. And he just, they take off and they leave us. And we're freaking out like, oh, fuck, what are we going to do? And this, of course, it's one of those nights too where we lied to our parents where we're at. So we're lying where we're lying where we're at. We're at a house party, we're underage. Right. So cops are coming sooner or later, you know? So we don't know what to do. So we're like, we got to get rid of the evidence of the beer. So we get the beers out and we just start fucking hucking them out. And I remember thinking about like, what a stupid idea. Oh, it was the dumbest idea I read. I mean, it's literally like 70 beers. Such a young idea. Like 70 beer, silver bullets, right? It's the fucking Coors Light cans, right? Just start throwing them. And we just start, and we're like, throw them further. Throw them as far as you can away from the accident. And we chuck these beers out. So to this day, I've always wanted to know if whoever owns the property of this old orchard or whatever it that, came out one day and found 70 beers. He's like the beer fairy came by, spread out everywhere. And so we had a third buddy in the car. It's my best, it was my other best friend, Justin. And he took the fall. So he was the only one who had no beers. So I had a beer, my other buddy, my cousin had three beers. He's in the passenger seat. My best friend's in the back seat, who didn't drink at all. And because the accident happened, I'm freaking out that I had even one beer. And so my buddy steps up to the plate and says that he was driving. Said he drove, and the cops come down. I remember, I've never felt like this before when telling the story to the cops and knowing that we're lying. My knees were hitting each other. I was shaking so hard. I was so scared that my knees were knocking against each other. And I remember having to grab them and hold still while I'm like, oh, this guy's gonna know for sure. And we luckily, we got away with not getting in trouble with the whole drinking thing. We got out and the guy, they ended up finding the guy at his house. They found him hours later. I think it was like eight, 10 hours later so they couldn't prove that he was drunk either. He was too out of it to realize which one of us was drinking. But we ended up having to go, we ended up like a year later having to go to court, small claims court. And my best friend had to stand up to the judge and lie and say, explain how he was driving and do all of it. Dude, that gives me anxiety. Oh, and this is my best friend, Justin. You know who he is. Like he, my poor buddy out forever and dead in for him for that one. It's funny, man, because God, especially when you're a kid. That was the worst accident. That's like good fellas. He took one. Oh, he did. Bro, you get so scared. So for, so I'd never been in a major accident but I thought somebody died one time. I was, me and my cousin were coming home from the gym. We were actually lifting weights and we're both, I want to say we're both 17 years old at the time. So this is before I even worked in fitness. And I had a VW VR six golf which at the time was a kind of a fast car for 17 year olds, like 170 something horsepower. Not that fast today, but back then it was pretty quick. And he had a Dodge Neon that he put like, he put an exhausted headers on or whatever. Not that fast, but for back then it was like a little rice rocket. It was a pretty fast little rice rocket. And anytime we went anywhere, we raced. Didn't matter where we went. We always raced. And I told you guys about my driving history. So we were stupid. We were maniacs and we were done. So on the way home from the gym, this was a ritual. Lift weights and on the way home, we'd race. Now my car was faster than his, especially when you got into the higher speeds. So all the way home from the 24 Fitness on Hillsdale, which is off of the Camden exit. And my exit is off of Santa Teresa all the way down. We're a hundred to 120 miles an hour. And every time he would catch up to me, I'd hit the gas and hit it 120 and he would kind of fall back because his car couldn't go as fast as mine could. So this is on and off, right? I'd slow down to a hundred. He'd catch up, I'd hit 120 and leave him and then just kept doing that. So I'm pulling up to the exit that we're supposed to get off on. So I'm slowing down because we're at the exit and I see him behind me and he's not letting off the gas. And I know why it's cause he wants to win. He wants to cut in front of me last minute when we get off the exit so he can put on his hazards, which means I win the race or whatever and laugh. So I'm thinking of my head. I think this is a great idea. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna wait till he starts to pull up next to me and I'm gonna gun it again so he can't pass me. So we're pulling up to the exit. I'm slowing down. I see him start to come up and he's about to come around me and I hit the gas so now he has no room, but there also was a car in front. So we had nowhere to go, but hit a left and go off of the fucking, like off the freeway into like the ditch or whatever. So all I see in my river mirror is his car spin, go off the freeway and dirt fly all over the place. Oh, shit. And I'm like, he's dead. Like my cousin's dead. There's no way, like there's no way he survived that. So I parked my car and I run over there and I have that fear that you get where you think something really, really bad happened and I run up there and nothing bad happened. His car was in the mud and there was dirt everywhere and he's standing outside his car and we both start laughing and crying. Oh, they give him a hug. And then he's stuck and then the cops pull up and we both look at each other and we make up a fucking bullshit lie. So cop comes up and he's like, oh, the floor was wet. And I remember lying to the police, pick the ground. That's your first since the kid's life. He's driving on the fucking freeway. The floor was wet. It was wet. And you know what's funny is, you know, when you're- He's getting good grip. You know when you're lying and you're so scared that you're lying, that your mouth gets so dry that your words don't want to come out? I was trying to talk to him about my mouth was all dry and my cousin's like trying to do his thing. And I'm like, this is terrible. Such a horrible, horrible experience. I find that really fascinating how we have these mechanisms in our body that do things like that when you know you're lying. And I'm always fascinated by the people that can do that, like that you can just lie so well. You just lie easier. I can't do that. Just practice. Just can't do that. It's how it is, is it practice? Yeah, you just gotta keep lying over and over again. Cause I've been awful. I've always been awful at lying. My mom's told me that since I was a kid. Like as soon as you lie, man, you get a big little sign on your head. Start looking away from people. I'm like, it's like trailing off and like talking to something else. The secret is to believe in your life. You have to really believe your life. You have to really believe your life. To convince yourself. Own it. You know what I'm saying? I think that's what it is. I think that's what it is. Cause I have a couple buddies that I have with that couple. I got a buddy who's like a pathological liar, bro. Like he just, and when I look at him, I'm like this, I'm looking at him telling him lie. He really thinks what he's saying right now. He believes this shit right now. And of course all the years we've been together, I've called him out plenty of times. When you call him out, it just goes down a new, deeper lie. Cause I gotta hold another one. Yeah, it just gets deeper. That's so stressful. That's so drama. It is too much. I just like give up. Oh thank you. Instead I just like entertain the story. Like no way. You're shitting me. Tell me more. And then what? Yeah. You know, funny though, someone, that same friend, he's a great friend of mine. And I planned for sure, reach out to him when we actually, when I actually have a wedding and have, you know, my groomsmen or whatever. I would still consider him that because we go back over 20 years and I have similar stuff. We don't really communicate very much. And we had kind of a hard following out when we got older because, you know, I just, he still lived at home with his parents. He was telling all these lies all the time still. And when we get together, we would just share these high school stories. And I was just, yeah, I was at this point in my life, I'm like, and when we had the following out wasn't that long ago. I was like about 28 years old. And I'm like, bro, man, we've been talking about the same stuff. And I still would entertain it. And then it got to a point where I remember he didn't, he was like the last friend to get a cell phone. He'd call me from his landline. And I was like, I'm already at this point in my life, I'm already like over answering phone calls. I don't answer phone calls. You guys know that, right? It's like, text me, dude. Fuck it, send me a text or DM me or fucking message me on Facebook, like the rest of the world. You know what I'm saying? It's not high school anymore. I don't have time to sit on my phone and talk to a girlfriend for an hour. Mrs. Anderson's home number. Yeah, not to mention, he would call and we talk about the same things. We talk about our sports teams because we do have that in common. And then we talk about high school stories. And I just got to a point in my life where I got older that I just didn't have the time to do that on a regular basis during the week. And I remember it really hurt his feelings, man. It really hurt his feelings and it was a really tough time for me to like explain that to him that, man. Did you actually say that? Did you actually break up with him or did you just ghost him? No, I didn't do either. I didn't like officially break up with him and I didn't ghost him either. He got really upset at me because he finally got a cell phone. Cause I feel like that's what girls do, right? Girls like break up with each other. Yeah, it was. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't consider it. I don't do that. I just kind of stop. I just kind of like, yeah. I do your thing. I'll do mine. I just slowly fade away. I'm a communicator, right? And I'm a very, you know me. I'm a very blunt, straightforward guy. And so I had the conversation that I'm having with you guys with him saying, hey man, it's not anything about, I love you bro. I'll always love you. I'll always consider you like family to me. But when we get together, most of what we talk about is just sports and sharing high school stories, which by the way, I love to do. I enjoy that. I enjoy coming back every once in a while. Haven't seen you in a while. Haven't seen our boys. We get together, have some beers. We talk about the good old days and it's cool. But I don't want to do that every day of the week. I just don't have that in me right now. There's other things in my life right now that I'm like. So you can invite him to your wedding, is what you're saying? No, he would be in my wedding. I would. Yeah, I still consider that. I can't wait for you to get married. You know why? Vegas. You know what, yep, yep, yep. Let me tell you something dude. A lot different than going to CES. You don't, let me tell you something else. A bachelor. A bachelor party, because I've been married before, right? A bachelor party when you're young and you're 20s with your other single buddies. It's fun. Don't get me wrong, it's fun. But a bachelor party when you're older and all your friends come to the bachelor party and are married, somebody might die. That she could go off. Somebody could die. Well, I expect someone to die. That's what I think's gonna happen. What was the movie? What was that movie? It was with, I think Christian Slater was in it or Slater. Christian Slater and Ari Gold. What's Ari Gold's real name? What's his name? Oh, I don't know. He was in it. They're four buddies that are older and one of them gets married. They go to Vegas and it's like, we're gonna, this is, we're going off. The wives are out of town. This is what we're gonna do. And they end up killing the stripper. Remember, they kill around, oh. Yeah, they were. We're not gonna kill a stripper. I don't know if I remember that. You don't remember them. They had to cut her up. Remember the one with Tom Hanks. They had to cut her up in pieces. You guys never seen this movie? Oh my God. They had to cut her up in pieces and they bury her in the Las Vegas desert. Wow. They threw it all in. Oh, I kill you guys. You guys have to see this movie. Check that out on Netflix. I can't wait to your bachelor party. I don't know if you- Where's your best man? Do you know? I do know. It's my childhood best friend, the one who goes back to furthest with me, Jared. So it would for sure be him. Oh, very bad things. Very bad things. Thanks, Doug. Have you seen it before, Doug? Oh, see, Doug knew what it was. You guys never seen that before? No, never. It's got chainsaw. Oh, classic movie, dude. So you're gonna, so good. But he's gonna need assistant to just set up the bachelor party. Well, I feel like me and Justin should be assistant. I think the way Katrina and I- You should be included. I think the way Katrina and I- Don't say it. Yeah, I know. And I'm gonna ruin it for you guys. Don't do it. Don't ruin it, you're gonna have it. Well, this is what I- You're gonna have one together. Yeah, you're gonna have one together. No, no, no. I was gonna say that. Oh, thank God, dude. Lights on stage and it'll be over. I was about to quit mind pump right now. But what we would probably do, and we've talked about this, because her and I are not into the whole big, like we're, I'm not, and no offense to anybody who's listening to this, that this is their dream. This is what we do. Where you do the big white wedding and you spend 100K on everything and you have 400 people there. And like those are cool. Like at one point in my life, I thought that would be cool to do, but at this, when I started to see how much that guy cost- No, I think that's a good idea. The stress behind all that. When I was a kid, I thought it was cool, right? But now I go like, fuck that. And because I have a rad girl that thinks like I think, we're like, you know what? If we're gonna get married and we're gonna spend some money, we're gonna do a fucking badass trip. And the- Yeah, destination wedding. The friends of ours that can afford to do that. Yeah. And the ones that don't love us enough to spend five grand to go come on some crazy trip. And down, right? And we do some badass shit for like a week, bro. We go somewhere, yeah. Awesome, awesome. Thailand. Yeah, and we just go get, I don't know about Thailand, but somewhere fucking really cool. Some super exotic island. Yeah, yeah. Somewhere where they can't. There's no laws. You know, if you were to get married again, if both of you were to get married again, what would it look like? It would be pretty similar to that. I mean, I definitely like the whole like destination thing and just that being, you could minimize. You could minimize it as far as like a lot of people showing up and butt hurt feelings from relatives and all these types of things, which inevitably anybody that's gone through the process knows how that goes and it's always there. Right. So yeah, totally like I highly recommend a destination wedding or just like go into the court, which ironically actually did that with Courtney before we even got married. We went down to the court, we got married. And then, because that way I could get my surgery. And so we got that covered through her insurance and all this kind of stuff, but I didn't even tell my parents about that. Oh wow. Well, you just put it on air now, hopefully. Yeah, hey, mom and dad. We had troubles for insurance fraud. No, they were married. What? They were married. Like it was legal. That's all you need is the legal papers. Have you guys ever been to a destination wedding before? Yes. Yes, I have. I've been to a few of them. I love them. One of my best friends, Mark, got married in Jamaica. And dude, it was badass. Like we went to the resort we stayed at was called the Royal Plantation, which in my opinion is probably one of the best ones on the entire island as far as like how nice it is. And that was back when his wife was cutting the hair for Cindy McCain, so John McCain's wife. And the Royal Plantation, I think only has like two or 300 rooms. They're all oceanfront. It's like a little V of a private beach on the side of that is where all the famous people stay. And it's this even more private and secluded beach. Plus you get this three-story villa with an infinity pool and your own like M16 security guards. Like there's like five of them. And so he had the president or he was, John McCain was running for president at that time. And Cindy McCain were supposed to come to the wedding. And so they rented this villa out. And it was like, I want to say it was 50, 50 or 70 grand for the week or something like that for this villa that in there. And last minute, because it's stuff going on with him running for president, he couldn't come out. And so they, as a gift, they just gave it to the wedding party. Oh, wow. So it was pretty, yeah, it was pretty good. So we got to stay in some, and it was like, and anyone's been to Jamaica, for sure one of my favorite tropical places I've been. And really because of the service, I've never been somewhere in my life. I've heard that about Jamaica. Oh, they don't, they don't take tips, right? So they refuse tips and you, you just can't, you cannot go somewhere or sit down somewhere without having somebody that works somewhere on the property running up to you, like getting you things. And I mean, to the point where, you know, we would, we, as soon as our foot would hit the sand, someone's running up to us with a towel, with a water, with a chair, escorting us there, asking if we want any food, anything. If I said something like, do you guys have like scars? And they're like, no, but give me a minute. What would you like? And they like run to the store. Go buy it for you. Yeah, go to the store, buy it, they come back. Like, shit, like that was just, it was fucking insane. See, when I got, when I got married, I did the whole, you know, old school, traditional, Italian Catholic, you know, wedding, like 200 something people. Oh God, to sit up, stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down. Got married at the cathedral, did the reception, did the whole like real traditional, you know, old school wedding. If, and now after I got divorced, like for sure, never in a million years will ever get married again. There's no reason for it to have kids and all that stuff. But what's funny is, you know, now that I'm dating someone and I'm in love and all that stuff, you start to entertain those ideas again. Now Jessica's also divorced and both of us are both like kind of against marriage, but we like the idea of whatever that means, like a union or whatever. So if we ever did anything, and I'm not saying we ever would, cause me and her are so anti-establishment that I doubt that- She's like make up your own thing. We would probably do the weirdest ceremony of all time. I'm just letting you guys know ahead of time and it would be a surprise. Naked yoga and all that. Yeah, you guys would get invited, we'd end up somewhere and we'd have, yeah, there'd be some weird dude and everybody. Drink this ayahuasca, everybody, whoa. I'm somewhere in the middle there with that because I'm also, I'm the same way. I'm an anti-establishment, fuck the government getting involved, I don't need them to get involved in my fucking relationship with this woman that I love already. I might do some weird, just let's just tie some rope together that signifies that we're together. I don't need to fucking just sign some shit and get some paperwork to prove it or some, I feel the same way. I don't know if I could ayahuasca it up and do naked yoga. I'm joking, but it would definitely be, it would either be super different out there weird or it would be super nonchalant, like I'd walk in one day and be like, oh, by the way, I got married yesterday. You know what I mean? Like I'm not gonna make a big deal about it. But yeah, no, but if I did get married again, I would definitely want a bachelor party. I definitely would. You know I didn't get one. Oh, you didn't? You never got one. Yeah, I didn't. Well, yeah, I didn't really have that one either. I feel like you did, but you can't say it on air. I was weak. I was like, I was like. Was it weak sauce? What did you do, Justin? I remember what you did. Dude, I just went to Tahoe and you know, tried to get a stripper and all that. And it was like, there's no talent. You know. Yeah, I didn't talk to her. Bro, come on. Bro, we had terrible strippers in Vegas for a bachelor party. I was like, get away from me. I didn't even want her near me. You know what I mean? So. But that makes it fun. Fun story. That's not fun. Yeah, it's not. I don't know what party you're going to. Like getting an ugly stripper is not a fun situation. You just wait till you see the one we get. I have a stripper that was sent to you at 24. Oh, God. The old lady. That was from my boy, Mark. That was the funniest thing ever. You just see it out of his face. Oh, so. I think it was 25. That was my 25th birthday. Sent it to the work. And really old stripper? She was old. 60 something years old. No bra on in her lacy. It's much more than that. She was like 70 something. Yeah, it was 60 plus for sure. I think she was only 60 because she smoked six. She was literally. OK, she pulls up in like a mischie-bishi like little pickup truck that looks like somebody took a sludge hammer to it all the way around. Like beat the fuck up. Right. She rolls up. I remember the city on my desk and she parked in front. Right. And I see her like, you know, cigarette hanging out of her mouth. She gets out. She can like fix her dress because it was kind of up a little bit from sitting in the truck. And it's just like, you know, silky, thin little, you know, red like lacy looking dress that she's wearing with no bra on or anything underneath it. And she's got a fucking cigarette hanging on her mouth. And she throws it on the ground, steps on it, gets her little boom box out of the out of the truck and then walks up. And I'm watching the whole thing happen like in slow motion. And I'm like totally entertained. But this is hilarious. Look at this chick who's coming in right now. You know for you. She walks to the front desk. And then I hear over the loudspeaker, Adam, you have a guest at the front. And I'm like, what the fuck? Me? And I'm like looking kind of weird. And she, and then they point over to me and she comes walking over. She goes, are you Adam? And I'm like, yeah. And she puts the radio right on the desk and then hits play. And it's like. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Yeah. And she starts like walking around in circles and me and dragging her fingers all over my chest and stuff. And starts doing this. Happy birthday to you. And she's got this raspy voice from the cigarettes. And I'm like, oh man, it was so. She's got the hole in the throat. It was magical. So embarrassing. My buddy just got a fucking huge kick out of it. Called them right afterwards and said, dude, you asshole, bro. I'm getting you back for that one. Hey, you guys ever watched the show on A&E intervention? Yeah. I have not. That's super depressing, right? Yeah. So what happens. So intervention is where they'll show like the story of someone who got really addicted to something. And then at the end of it, hopefully they end up going to rehab. And what they always do before they go to rehab, every episode is like this. It's like a total. It's totally consistent when someone finally agrees to go to rehab is that they get smashed on their drug of choice before they go and know they're not going to use it anymore. So like if I'm an alcoholic and I'm about to go do 60 days of sobriety in this house or whatever, I'm going to get smashed one more time or whatever. So today we started our fast. Sounds to me last night. Yeah, I was like on intervention. Last night we had dinner and I just ate just no stuff I normally wouldn't eat. French fries and I make sure I went out. Yeah, I went out to this barbecue place. I did not do it right. And I had like, yeah, I had like a pound of tri-tip. And like, I think I even had a beer to go with it. So good. Oh, dude, it's just like we're going on rehabs. And then I went and then I went to you guys. And then I got these, these coconut ice cream like chocolate popsicle things. Oh, wow. Two of them. I didn't think about dessert. I had a tablespoon of peanut butter. I was totally dysfunctional eating last night to prepare for the fast, the 72 hour fast. Yeah. I think I was feeling so far right now with that. Because by the time this is going to air, is this going to air when we're done? This will air on the last day of our fast. Yeah. Cool. Because we're all doing three days. Right. That's the goal. The goal is 72. If I break it 48, I'll still be happy with myself. See, I feel like you're setting yourself up already. No, no, because I believe, I believe it's going to happen the way you said it's going to happen, which is once I get to about day two, it won't be as bad. I think today will be the hardest for me. So far, is it hard? How do you guys feel right now? Yeah, it's a little tough for me. In the morning, it was a little tough. Then I was like, good on energy. Now I'm losing energy a little bit. Like I'm like, ugh. See, I get, like I'm hyper. I'm hyper the whole time. And my appetite is pretty much gone. I know if I tasted food right now, I'd be ravenous. But I feel still pretty good. And I've got that sympathetic feeling, you know? Where it's almost like I'm on stimulants or something. Yeah. But so far, I'm good. We'll see what happens. Sleeping will be interesting. Sleep, yeah. At night, yeah, that's the thing. If I don't have dinner and then I'm going to sleep right after that, it's gonna be the cranky, cranky guy. Yeah, no doubt in my mind. Tonight, I'm already planning for it being the toughest. Tonight will be the hardest. Dinner is always the hardest. Now, why are you guys, do you have anything in particular you're doing this for? Is there something like, because I know what I'm trying to accomplish out of it. For me, I wanna see like how my body sort of is able to heal itself. Like as far as like, you know, some of the internal stuff that I'm dealing with and like heartburn, all these things that I'm trying to kind of control and attack this year. So, you know, maybe this will help to kind of boost immunity and boost just, you know, the overall, you know, metabolism. And I just wanna see how I feel going out after that. And then like how much I really need to intervene, you know, with, you know, taking these supplements and pills and all these kinds of things. Yeah. So I've read some animal studies that show that you can pretty much replace your immune cells, all the immune cells in your body with a 72 hour fast. I don't know how true that is for humans, but I do know prolonged fasting will recycle quite a bit of your cells. So I'm interested in that. I've never done a longer than 48 hours, but I do remember after 48 hours, it was very interesting, dude. It was a trip, like the first day was hard. After the 48th hour, I was, I almost felt like, oh, I don't need food. I'm cool without food. That's what I'm hoping happens to me. And then I'll push to 72 no matter what. But even if I don't, then I've told myself, at 48 hours, that's already more than I've ever done before. And so I'm curious to just... You may notice hypotension. So this happens to me when I fast prolonged that if I'm like on a low surface and I get up really fast, I'll start to get dizzy because your blood pressure actually will drop. Oh, I bet. And so you'll get that feeling. So that was the one negative effect. And then are you guys planning on exercising at all? Yeah. Just light exercise. So I'm going to do some light movement and I'm just going to do hardcore mobility work. Stretching mobility, stretching mobility, stretching mobility. Body weight stuff. Yeah. Cause I start to notice that my inflammation starts to get really low as I get deeper into the fast. I just feel like my joints don't bother me whatsoever. So I'll take advantage of it. You know, it's kind of an interesting thing. And I'm sure this is why religion has sort of taken a hold of fasting and kind of it. And I'm not a super spiritual person to begin with. It's there, but at the same time, like I'm not super focused on it all the time, but like this is one of those times where it's like, you just get super reflective. Yes. Cause like there's not like this urgency in like, I don't know, your day just kind of flips on its head. You're just like, okay, now what am I going to do? And then, you know, you just start thinking about things. It's funny how much we surround everything around our eating times. That's right. It's such a ritual. It is. It's crazy how we do that. And when you take that out for a day, cause I've done this before, I have fast for a full day. Even then it's weird. It's like, you know, the natural thing for me to be thinking about right now is like, Oh, you know, hurry home. So like, well, should I swing by and pick this up? Or is calling Katrina and we're talking about, Hey, what are we going to make for dinner? You'll be, you know, saying like, none of that will exist today. And she's doing it with us. So her and I are, we're on it right now. Oh, nice. It's funny cause Courtney wasn't. And then like I started, you know, this morning, like I was about to grab some baking cause she made it for the boys. And I was like, she's like, you're on the fast. Oh man. Is she doing it too? She's going to do it starting tomorrow. Cause she already kind of ate. So she thought she like, like, you know, might as well just start from scratch. Well, when did she breakfast? Yeah. Oh, so she can just do it so that she doesn't have breakfast. That's what I said. Cause technically we started last night. Like my last time eating. Yeah. So the first meal, so I, we started, so Friday night was the first meal, right? No, no, no, excuse me. Today is Friday. So the last meal was Thursday night. So Sunday night will be the first meal. Right, right. For everybody? Yeah. For me, this is going to kickstart a lot of stuff. And that's kind of like what I'm doing this for is I've been completely off my training regimen. I've been completely off my diet right now. Everything has been completely centered around my testosterone and really focused on that. And I'm starting to get better. I was sick all last week. We know what's going on with my Achilles now. So I plan to do the 72 hour fast. I am looking at some things like I'm paying attention to inflammation. I'm paying attention to my psoriasis. That'll be interesting. I'll be interested to see that. Yeah, so I'm watching things like that right now. I'm paying attention to energy level and how mental clarity will probably do some good meditation during this time. But really it's to transition me into my diet next week. So I'm going to come out and I'll probably be running something similar to a keto type of a diet. I won't be following. Same here. Right, so I plan to run. I've been, it's been a while since I've ran a keto style diet. I've been enjoying carbs for all the holidays and stuff. So this is going to be me transitioning into a keto-ish type of a diet. And then I'm going to get back into my training regimen and start tracking that. And then I've also finally got all the herbs and supplements. I've got the juve light going. I've got everything going for my testosterone. I'm finally starting to see a little bit of an increase from that. So I feel prepared now to give people some really good feedback from me. And once I get all that stuff in line, like then you'll hear me talk more about, okay, these are the herbs that I'm taking. This is how many times a day I'm doing this. Let's go over the whole protocol. Right, I'm going to go over the whole protocol. And I've been waiting. So those of you that have been listening, I've got a lot of DMs from people asking me about the whole increasing my testosterone and getting, you know, getting back into that. What am I doing eating wise? What am I doing with my, nothing has been super consistent until now. And so then I feel more comfortable with sharing with you guys what I'm going through, what I'm noticing. Because before I just, I'm just not a fan of people that do bullshit like that where they speculate on, oh yeah, I feel this, I feel, yeah, but okay, meanwhile, your diet's off, your fucking workout regimens off, you got, you're sick. Like, come on, get the fuck out of here with that. You can't give me real good objective advice. I'm looking forward to the consciousness altering effects of a prolonged fast. Cause they legit, I mean, you're mentioning Justin about the spiritual side of it. It's been in all religions forever. This is the, here's the thing, man. Which I find so fascinating. You know what? I don't, you know why I don't find it fascinating? The only reason why it's fascinating is cause we've decided that, you know, our new modern Western medicine methods are the only methods that are valid and all the old stuff is bullshit. But when you see something that is shared across civilizations in countries that never communicated with each other, religions and, you know, fasting exists in some form in every major religion. It exists in some form in every ancient medicine. Medical practice. Yeah, medical practice, whether it's Ayurvedic or Chinese medicine or some of the, you know, the old Russian, you know, medicine systems that you see in, you know, in that area. It exists in all these, you know, areas for a reason. And that's because it's been observed to have lots of both physical and emotional and mental benefits. In fact, this is crazy as I, cause whenever I get into something, I just like to read about it, right? I get all into it. So fasting now is being studied and being shown to be an effective, get ready for this, anti-depressant. A very effective anti-depressant. I could say that. Where when people, not while fasting, when they go back to eating, they all of a sudden like, well, my depression's gone and I feel better. So right after they fast and reintroduce food, that elevates the mood, they're crazy. Well, this will be interesting for me to pay attention to because- Anxiety, anti-anxiety. That makes a lot of sense. Because I'm going through a lot of that, those feelings of depression right now with what I'm dealing with with my hormones and stuff. And then also being banged up, injured and watching all that happen. So that's something I feel like I can speak on after going through this process if I do feel this mood change over. Cause I definitely feel like the way I feel right now is like this dark cloud is just kind of over me. And considering all things, Katrina, we were laying in bed last night, literally, and she said, at a note we're watching Modern Family, and she goes, are you happy? I said, what do you mean am I happy? Of course I'm happy. Of course I'm happy. They're crying. Right, right, she's right away. She loves to do this stuff. It's not your fault. And I go- It's not your fault. Right, right, she did one of those things on me. And I paused the movie because I was like, are you okay? Are you happy? And she's like, yeah, no, no, I'm asking you, are you happy? And I said, yeah, honey, I'm happy, I love you, man. I said, but you know, I'll be really honest. I said, you know, I'm fucking going through it right now. Like this is probably up there with one of the hardest times for me. And you just, I'm just not the type of guy that's like, feel sorry for me. And like, bitch about it, moan about it, and just gonna carry on. I identify with that on the same way. Right, I'm just, you know, I'm wearing it. You know, I'm wearing it right now. I'm soldiering through all this. And I know that I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I think we've been through the darkest hours of it already during this whole process. And I just, I feel blessed that I have a partner like you that's so understanding and that doesn't make the situation harder. Because I tell you what, any other girl I've dated in my life, if I was going through this right now. They'd be taking it personally, they'd be insecure about it. I would have fucking launched her ass, for sure. I've been through way less before and launched a relationship over someone like this. And the fact that I have a partner that wants to understand what I'm going through and cares and stuff like that to me. You're gonna come out of this, dude. And you're gonna be so grateful that you went through it just from the growth that it forced. You know, I'm very similar to you. When I go through, you guys saw me go through a divorce. And if I, I'm the kind of, I'm like you, I don't really show it. I don't really show it. And if I communicate it, if I say to you, hey, I'm really going through something right now, it may not, it may not feel like it. Like you may hear me say that and you may think to yourself like, oh, he's saying that, but he seems okay. No, no, for me to say that means. It's a big deal. Yeah, and I'm trying to tell you because I can tell that you're maybe not realizing what's going on. I would communicate that with Jessica. And she used to tell me like, you know, she used to tell me, she's like, it's really hard to see like that you're going through a tough time because you don't really show it. And I'm like, I know I don't, but if I communicate it with my words, like take it literally, like I really mean, what I'm saying, I'm the same way, man. I don't, I typically don't complain. I don't like telling people that, you know, like woe me or whatever. But afterwards the growth that comes from it is just, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't trade it. I really wouldn't. It's crazy saying that because it was such a difficult time. So you're going to look back and you're handling like a fucking champion. I know what you're going through. I can see because I've known, now I know you well enough to tell, but it's, it's, it's some, you're going to come out of the other end and you're going to be a better version of yourself. And I think that's the key because I've had people ask me like how you deal with it. And I, you know, I, we've talked on this podcast before that I really do look at obstacles in my life as growth opportunities. I really do. I know that I always come out better on the other side. It's just hard to see that when you're in it. You know, and I think that's what people struggle with is fucking sucks when you're in it. Yeah. When you're in it, you can only see two feet in front of you. You know, when you can only see two feet in front of you and it seems like all you have is obstacles in front of you. It's really tough to be positive and be joyful about things. And I'm probably not very positive and joyful right now, but I'm no dummy. And I know that I've been, and I know that the harder something is that I've been through the more, the greater the reward is when I make it through it too. So I understood. So there's a part of me that is constantly having this, you know, self talk all the time where it's just like, okay, you feel like shit. This is this, this is this, this is this. I'm like, okay, the good sign is that when I persevere through all this shit, like I'm gonna feel like a champion when I get through it. You are. And the thing that helped me a lot is that, because I hate having to rely on other people. I really can't stand it, but that was a learning lesson for me too, because why? Why do I hate to rely on other people so much? Sounds, it sounds noble, right? Sounds like a good thing. Like you shouldn't have to rely on people, but it's not necessarily a good thing when you're surrounded by people who care about you, who you should be able to rely on because at some point you are gonna go through some shit and that's what life's all about. And if you can't, if you go through life thinking I can't rely on people, you're gonna be fucked when the shit hits the fan because you're stronger together than you are, you know, alone. So that was one of my learning lessons was, okay, I'm gonna be able to rely on these guys I'm working with and rely on my girlfriend and rely on people helping me through this process. And then I come out of, I'm way more grateful for the people around me and I'm typically very much there for people when they need me, but I'm even more so now knowing how important, you know, something like that is, but yeah, I'm interested to, you know, after this fast to see just to remember how food tastes after a fast, to remember, I know it does a really hard reset for me when I do this. It's like all of a sudden, you know, healthy food is so much easier to eat. I don't wanna eat these other foods. That's another thing I love about a fast right there is, I mean, you know what sounds so good right now? A fucking salad. You know what I'm saying? Like a salad sounds good. When you get to that point where you've been hungry for two or three days and you want food, it's amazing how good like something as simple as that taste or it's just a bowl of vegetables would be awesome right now. Well, this is a test for me because I did 48 hours. This is a 72 hour fast. And after I do this one, I plan on scheduling once a year, a five to seven day fast, which is I know it's a long time. It sounds like a long time, but you know, I'm doing my research and whatnot. These prolonged fast when they're used medicinally are typically 21 days long. I'm not gonna do a 21 day fast because I don't want to be monitored because I feel like if you're going that long, you wanna be monitored and all that stuff. But I do plan on doing like a five to seven day one once a year. I couldn't have imagined a 21 day fast, bro. That's gnarly. You know what I'd like to do after today? Bro, watch that documentary. That's what they do. I plan on watching that. What's his name? Walter Longo. I would like to do like the mimicking fast. So I kind of know the gist of it because I did some research on it. So it's a five day fast and you consume basically no carbohydrates whatsoever, extremely low protein, mostly fat. And you have under something like six to 800 calories a day. That's it. And what they're finding with that is that they're calling it fasting mimicking because they're finding that the benefits you get from a water fast and that are very similar. They're trying to actually find differences right now. Which I find, to me, I don't know though, we'll see when we get through this or not, that I feel like that would be easier for me to do and it'd be natural just to- It might be harder. I know, that's what I'm thinking. Not if you're eating all fats. I'm only allowed to eat a little. Yeah, well that's- Constatiating. Because I know there's a huge difference when I've tried to be really low calorie or fast and or I allow myself to only have fats The difference of 300 grams or 300 calories coming from all fat versus 300 calories where I have some carbohydrates in there, night and day difference. As soon as you get them carbohydrates, I can feel my body. Appetite spikes. Oh, appetite spikes and now I want more really bad. And pay attention to if you have any Herximer effect, which is any die off effect or what people call detoxing or whatever. Sometimes when people do a prolonged fast, the first three days or first four days is the worst and then afterwards it gets awesome. So if it starts to feel shitty, that might be what's happening. There's a lot of people right now that, so this is going up Sunday. So a lot of people will be coming off their fast when they hear this, because we did have a lot. I have a ton of people that- Dude, I did a post on Instagram and within three hours I had like 140 comments because people want to follow along and do it. So what I think we should talk about right now is actually some of the dos and don'ts coming out of the fast. A big mistake that I've made in the past and I've seen people make is you think because you haven't eaten for two or three days and you're going to be so hungry or you're going to want to eat and you're so excited to eat so you plan this big meal and you'll end up wanting to throw up afterwards. Very few people will be able to down it. So I normally have like a set of vegetables or something like that with a little bit of fat. So I'm going to go into my ketogenic diet so that fits perfect, I'll probably do. Things that are super easy to digest, bone broth is probably a good idea. So bone broth is good, soups are good, well-cooked vegetables are good. So if you're going to have some vegetables, make sure you boil them so that they break down and they're really, really easy to digest. Have a small meal that's easily digestible, wait an hour or two, see how you feel and then eat a little bit more. So Sunday night will be my first meal. It's still going to be a very light meal and then next day I'm going to slowly ramp myself into a regular diet, but I'm not going to go, because I've done that before where I go heavy, that's terrible. And the eyes are bigger than your stomach. And your thoughts on macro profiles, regardless if you're a keto person or not, I'd still recommend probably the high fat version, right, would you? Oh, you're going to be, after 72 hour fast, you're going to be in ketosis. So if you want to stay in ketosis, if you like the way you feel, go high fat, moderate protein, very, very low carbohydrates and then see what happens, but that'll maintain high ketone levels, even though you're eating enough calories. And that's pretty much it, but like I said, I'm ramping myself to be able to do a once a year long fast that is going to be kind of like an anti-cancer immune system regenerating protocol that I do every year. And mainly for me in particular, to benefit my gut health, because I feel like that's an auto immune issue. So I want to hammer that. And there's lots of studies showing that prolonged fast have a profound effect on auto immune issues. So that's my main reason for doing it. And the second reason is, I still have a little bit of a fear around cancer, having witnessed somebody very close to me die. So this is something that I think is the most anti-cancer thing I could do besides regular nutrition and exercise. It's just such a great preventative health thing that you can control yourself. And I think that it empowers people to either recharge, restart or just take the time out to focus on you and your body. Like I feel like that's so overrated these days, just being able to kind of get in tune with your body again. And this allows for that focus to really happen. So that's what I really enjoy out of it. I just enjoy it like getting reconnected and like kind of listening to those signals. So reintroduce things. You really like can see how your body responds because it's going to be hyper aware of all that stuff. Now, we have a fasting guide. So I'm going to want to make sure I mention this on the podcast. Nowhere in the fasting guide do we mention anything longer than 24 hour fast. That's the longest fast that we recommend in the guide. I think if you go longer than 24 hours, you need to be very healthy. If you plan on doing a 72 hour fast, I know I have to say this, but you should probably check with a doctor. You're a physician. Yeah, we have to say that. So I haven't consulted with anybody myself, but that's all my own personal anecdote. But a regular intermittent fasting where you're going 18 to 24 hours has its own health benefits. We actually highlight in the fasting guide, I think like six different ways that intermittent fasting can be used. It's super inexpensive. I don't know how much we sell the fasting guide for Doug. It's like $27. It's on our mind pump media.com site. So if you want to start fasting, I don't recommend starting with a 72 hour fast. I think you should probably do like an 18 hour or 24 hour fast to get going and then take it from there. But maybe we'll write a guide on something that's longer term, something like this. Cause this I think, this is a whole another level. Right, right. Excellent. Also, every single day this month, we are posting a workout and it's a progressive workout. In other words, if you start with day one and go day two, day three, day four and so on, you're gonna be following a program that we designed that you can follow from day one all the way to day 30. 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