 Most of the forests are degraded because people want to grow agricultural crops. They know the value they get from agricultural crops, but they don't get much from forests as such. For someone to appreciate the carbon, the oxygen, the weather, it takes them a while. You have to be hit hard, like today, where we don't get rains when we are supposed to get them, when temperatures go high, then you tell them it is due to cutting down trees. They say, oh, okay, what next? If only NGOs could be facilitated further, but also government to come in and do the same, then we would be able to reach a much wider audience, and that is a more significant and effective way of conserving the currently diminishing resources.