 works up on the way show and for the forthcoming election we will be doing a sensitization teaching Nigerians how to vote correctly because it is no news that many Nigerians don't know how to vote correctly and so that our votes are not void we need to be able to teach the people how to vote correctly so come with us as we teach the Nigerian people how to vote correctly for the forthcoming election hello sir do you know how to vote correctly are you sure you want to show me yeah all right go ahead this is exactly how you vote you put your thumb on the stamp pad and then you vote right here and then make sure that your hand your thumb is taking a lot of ink so that it can show correctly on whoever whatever candidates you are supporting thank you like we know and like I said earlier it is no news that many Nigerians not know how to vote correctly some people turn prints across the line some don't even get some more enough ink to turn prints correctly and that is why we came on the street to teach people how to vote correctly thank you very much for staying with us this is the Vox Pop on the way show and of course it's your girl dummy thank you till next time bye thanks for staying with us presidential and national assembly elections will hold on February 25 while the governorship and state House of Assembly elections will hold on March 11 however according to international Center for investigative reporting the failed violence and intimidation is making many potential voters doubt whether they will vote on the election day the recent spike in the number of violence attacks of campaign rallies and other places especially offices of the independent National Electoral Commission INEC has heightened concerns amongst prospective voters the most important thing for every citizen right now and for those heading out to vote on Saturday we want to discuss safety at the polling units please let's hear what you have to say remember you can join the conversation send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 08183-84663 you could also Twitter's Twitter us at way show Africa one with the hashtag way show so today we're discussing safety at the polling units I mean I think this is actually very because look at the case that we looked at it was yesterday or day before yesterday where we had the man that had his arm amputated because he was attacked at the Labour Party campaign rally that happened over last weekend so if we're already having situations like that I mean I don't blame people when they are retreating and saying we don't think we want to go out on Saturday to vote because if this could happen at the campaign rally what if at the polling booth there is XYZ there so people really are having these concerns which I believe are very valid concerns by the way but at the same time what can we do how can we help people what can we say to people we are citizens as well how are we sure that we are actually safe what measures have been put in place to make sure that things are actually going to go on well well for me I'm going to say this and some people may not take it well but at the end of the day I think everything as much as we want peace like I'm a huge believer in peace right I don't believe in bloodshed but at the end of the day if I'm going I'm not a woman of war but every day we live is a risk if I step out to get my daily bread there are chances that I could you know hit the gutter or I could get hit by a train or just everything is a risk so in that same way have that mindset that I'm going out to vote it is the right thing to do just like you get your daily bread right so when you are putting somebody in office you're putting in somebody that you're putting in your voice to say okay I'm giving you the rights to decide how I make my daily bread for the next couple of days so I think it's a risk was what they can take even though we are brain god I beg protect us yeah I mean talking about safety I think I'll come from the angle of to not be used as a tool to harm other people or to cause violence at this pulling units the truth is what will happen will happen but at the end of the day you're being paid what peanuts how much would it pay you to harm another person or to cause chaos after the election and whoever wins comes into power that money is done so what's the next thing I think a lot of people are very short-sighted and that's why we always have these issues and I mean we have our guests here today so let's hear what you have to throw more light on it okay Dixie Nassajie is a criminologist and a global security analyst Dixie holds a gold standard security certification the certified protection professional CPP he's bought certified by the United States of America he's also an internationally certified security expert and the managing director of debris protection services limited a licensed private security company in Nigeria and he's here with us live in the studio today hello Mr. Dixie thank you for joining us it's a pleasure to have you here he looks so happy I know right we're anticipating well yes it's not like my ID card because I don't want to let go of it so yeah we're talking about safety at the polling units however there were some things that we I don't know if we have those images if we can just flash those images on the screen there's some things that I saw a paid voter ed where this so this page is actually responsible for educated voters on what to do how to go about the elections what should be done and what shouldn't be done and then there were about three images like that that I saw where they said there's some you can just dial star 622 if you see anything you suspect any movement so you can report your polling units officers if they're acting as if they're acting suspicious you can make a recording as soon as reports on 622 because that line will actually be active on election it's a free-toe line that will be active on election day there's also another one I said if you're giving an extra ballot paper return it do not thumbprint it because if you thumbprint it you are setting up your polling units for overvoting and the results will be cancelled and I'm sure we don't want that we don't want our efforts to go down the drain yes so there's also a third one that says make sure your ballot paper is stamped and signed by the assistant presiding officers at your polling unit as well so I think this this very this three would actually help us to know how to go about our doings at the polling units come very keen to Saturday yes however I'm going to allow Mr. Dixon tell us some things about how to actually ensure that there's safety at the polling unit ladies it's possible you need to avoid high heels that very day because your high heels needs to go on holiday in the case of danger how do you run you can't run with high heels you saw the video that was going around about those ladies from Zenit Bank to try to culturally change yes yes some of them are putting on flats sandals and whatever the case may be so this time around you know when it comes to election security or security chain a children and ladies are the most vulnerable in the family security chain or in a security chain you know but we guys know we can't you know find our way out just imagine Sansi wants to cross the fence it's impossible no I'm just imagining I'm just imagining are you sure yes but don't put on your high heels so that's just it anyway 2023 is here just like four years ago 2019 election came we experienced a lot of voter apathy and a lot of violence this time around you know looking at the Naira war the Naira conflict and happening in this very time most people are thinking that maybe the essence is to punish a particular candidate or to destroy the victory of one once candidate I'm not looking at it from that perspective and I think maybe one or two of you are not looking at it from that perspective as well but when you bring all this into consideration it's right time for us to understand that the territorial space would be very very toxic the risk would be very high this evening while I was coming I think we had a flat tire my driver pulled over between five minutes we have about eight to nine straight urchins some of this loud so they came to surrounded us I was just talking so you know being a straight because you have to be straight wise as well when it comes to security being straight wise you have to you know you know know the people who see your street not to relate to them it's not the time for you to start speaking English because there are times this time around if you want to engage them with paging engage them with paging because most of this street watching when you speak good English well they say why are you saying you are stupid you know you want to insult me so yeah I got involved with them with I spoke some paging and all those things so you know I see them at the end of the day don't transfer because they are busy so they are collecting transfer now so one of them was asking me app but why are you going to vote for being a security expert that's why you need to understand your environment I understand given time and I know the particular party that I know the party I'm supporting and my candidate if I had said who I voted for maybe I will not be here this evening I don't know maybe I might eat of the situation at that period of time but basically for us we need to understand that when it comes to security election security first of all you need to you know keep your candidate at mind you know you can discuss it with people you trust don't go and start discussing your candidate in a public space somebody who can slap your beat you up we remember last few weeks while Labour parties we were trying we were going for the rally what's it called a rally yeah yeah I live in a in a chevron axis so I saw how most of them we are beating right handed I saw it right handed so why it's one of them we're putting on polo so election day please keep your polo Sanze keep your polo give your polo dress dress smart you know don't engage in public don't engage in public discussion you can never tell who is listening to you because this election is going to be very tough a lot of people are out there to to cause chaos and the military would be there the police would be there the military have assured us of security in the polo unit but what our advice us is that make sure you dress smart in the case of hey if you want to take a flight or you want to take a fight but for me it's good to always take a flight instead of taking the fight you know most people want to stand to take a fight you are taking a fight because you want to engage you treat but I don't advise people to take a fight take a flight if you take a flight doesn't mean you've been defeated it's all about wisdom application of sense then also our advice us to start talking or tomorrow I'm suspecting some of you be going to the marketplace to go and get full stuff you need to put a lot of full stuff at home during ensad some people do not have full stuff at home and so what uh transpire we also are transpired so try and talk up in the case of any virtuality you know when it comes to security as security professionals we don't say god forbid yeah yeah I believe in divine protection but you sometimes we look beyond divine protection looking beyond divine protection is for you to put a strategies in place that will not hurt you and your family and your children some of us have children at home we have kids at home so ensure you have full stuff your fridge your store fill them up in the case of in virtuality or any incident or maybe a post-election crisis because sometimes after the announcement of result they might be rioted they might fight it somewhere or whatever the case may be then I've talked about your dressing don't put on your polo shirt don't talk anyhow in the polyunit dress smart remember to dress smart I think I'll stop there so that we can hally an interaction okay okay thank you very much Jenny yeah so um what would you advise so in case if I broke out let's say am I calling unit for example okay what would what should be the first thing I should do once that happens I mean you already said there will be security personnel there will be police there would also be soldiers or army or something like that but talking as an individual who is just going to vote when something happens what should I do first and I've not voted or maybe I voted okay fantastic question when you get into an environment first thing you do you need to scan the environment you understand any environment you find yourself in any given time first scan the environment how did you get in there then look at your exit routes for example if I come in through to this exit a as you able to know I'm getting out to exit a or I'm going out to exit b and understand your routes make sure you understand your routes where you're coming from and where you're going to that is very important then sometimes when you are in an environment try to anticipate incident try to anticipate crisis because most times we are carried away by gist carried away by discussion carried away by and I'm just imagine maybe you just see Jennifer saying hey Jennifer so you are here nice to see you you are carried away hey don't be carried away once you see something just say hi it's time for it to be very serious you have to be very serious so understand the environment you are you are in and in the case of any incident don't try because you know I remember when I was in the military an incident transpired sometime in in a state and some people were looking through the window people through the window a flying bullet can meet you through the window I've seen a lot of people being keyed because when you look at the distance the distance a bullet can travel 900 meters a bullet travels 900 meters that is that of a Kalashnikov travels 900 meters that means if you shoot it from here it should get to four points or ten that is how far a bullet can travel that is not the killing range it can get you injured but the killing range of a Kalashnikov which most of our security agents I'm talking about Kalashnikov right now because our police will be coming out of the Kalashnikov the military will come out of the Kalashnikov they might want to dispense their arms some of them maybe they are not a discipline in arm control release something somebody in his house 900 meter the bullet will meet him there now when you come across a situation like that don't run you can't run faster than a bullet I always have a blast on people yes because I saw a lot of people when I was saying they are shooting they were like mommy mommy mommy mommy your mommy is in the village preparing some stuff but no it's not time for you to shout mommy what you need to do is that try to look for the nearest place for you to lie down take cover just keep crawling crawling because bullets can meet you while you're running because you can't run faster than a bullet that is very important what about if you lie down there could be a stampede no you can't lie down that's why I say you have to run to the nearest cover nearest cover is just where you know you can find shelter where you can take shelter and if you are taking shelter you have to be very careful the kind of shelter you're taking for example Jennifer let me bring your paper there are two types of fire I mean most people whenever there is a gunshot people will just run for cover they'll just go and hide you have to be careful you have to know the type of cover you're taking now let's assume this is shields and I say fire and going on and I do like this I'm not taking cover from fire I'm taking cover from you can you see my face you can bend the bullet to penetrate this so ensure you don't take cover from view cover from view take cover from fire from fire cover from fire are trees pillars uh irons you know uh blocks or whatever the case may be so you those are the kind of places you need to take cover in the case of firing instead of firing there you crawl to the nearest cover then try to take it apart from that scene I answered your question you're teaching us like so much as a carriage and it's so fun I'm entertaining yeah yeah because I've seen I've seen an institution everybody and this one was taking place in the northern part of the country some ladies tried to take cover from like this but I'm seeing I discover from view the bullet penetrated there penetrated it and killed it so like this pillar now back of you when you take cover from there the bullet will not be able to penetrate it even if you penetrate it's going to weaken the or the strength and the impact of that so make sure you are taking cover don't go and take cover with flower or carry flower tree and say be shouting because you know work so make sure you take cover from fire and if you are running make sure you don't run to danger because I've seen people also run to danger you're trying to run from safety to danger so make sure you are running to you're not running to the enemy's camp as well that's why you need to understand your terrain where you are voting before that voting the go around check your pulley unit carry out an assessment of that environment look at possible route you take in the case of any virtualities so that you'll be able to find your way home and whatever the case may be that'll be fine so that is pre-election security assessment thank you so um there is this um popular saying like just I'm even talking about to the maker we talk a lot to the maker so there's like um just go wake up in the morning go and vote and go back home like a lot of people are saying that and then there is the other sector would say when you vote sit down and guard your votes okay so I would want you to address situations like that for people who are like I need to go vote to and come back home so if all of us vote and go home who is now there to ensure that there is credibility and that our votes are not being manipulated you're not voting and going back home but it's not the force for you to vote and remain you have already carried out your civil responsibility by voting the credibility relies on the in the hands of inec officials and the uh what they call the agents or whatever the case may be but because of this space we find ourselves where election is no longer credible we are expected to trust issues trust issues trust psychology we are expected to all stay behind and count our votes you do you know how many hours for example if you get there at seven o'clock you want to wait all through the time to get your vote counted I don't think that is as advisable but it's all about personal interest it's all about your own personal uh uh what's it called engagement if you have something to do at home you can go back home maybe don't have friends to have gist with everybody you're going to be lonely or maybe there's no light that's because we see that we don't have light because it's electricity she said it's another problem in this country yeah so I'm not going to just shut down everybody's they want to go out and vote you know and when you get there stay time go for beavers you know the whole essence of beavers I think inec have upped their game the whole essence of big big beavers the beavers or beavers beavers very good it's has really mitigated the snatching of boxes that's why most people want to stay behind and make sure your vote counts but the beavers I think transmit your the results electronically whatever it gives me the so I don't think it's important for us to all just wait and make sure I say you want to get the polling officer to do the counting and you go back home smiley and say your vote has counted okay I'm sure you see it's burning so that's a question because I'm seeing uh Sansi Sansi's ready to wait and count and vote actually that is what I do like I sit down and I wait and usually my polling station there's like all sorts of entertainment and yeah that's fine you see please go ahead good to see you again I my question is still on the flight flight and flight mode basically um part of the questions or part of the things we're supposed to do in terms of being safe during the election is to um look out for suspicious character okay now these suspicious characters how do we identify these suspicious characters because of course in most cases we might not have the time to go and report these suspicious characters so what do we do when we see such before flight or sorry before flight or flight fantastic you see I think you're a good student that's good uh you see uh there's also a predictive profiling when you get into an environment that is why we have the eyes we have the ears we have the five sense organs you're able to smell you're able to see you're able to you know hear predictive profiling is for you to tell if uh something is going to take a transpire or if something's going to happen or not predictive profiling can tell you that the environment you are okay just for example now you get to your polling unit and all of a sudden you see some guys taking alcohol smoking you know they are not ready to fight any person but that's an indicator first indicator in the case of this result do not go away with these guys there's possibility under the influence of alcohol or under the influence of just smoking or something might be transpired so on the fight of flight situation it's not for you to go there and say hey today I'm going to fight I'm going to take a flight that is a possibility probability in the case of an incident when an incident transpired do you want to take a fight or do you want to take a flight taking a fight is that you want to stand and fight remember you want to stand and fight or you want to stand to fight those guys or whatever I involve there's possibility we get you get injured there's possibility you you you get killed there's possibility you go blind now the whole essence of election is not to split the blood the whole election of election is not for us to share uh to share human blood it's for us to look for people that will come and take us to the promised land you know this is the eight years in Israel administration for me I keep saying that uh what's happening in general is just like the closing ceremony of this present administration the eight years I see it has personally been in the wilderness so most of the Nigerians you can see just like the three political parties which will be uh uh uh senator tinovo and the article everybody are coming out to you know air their views you can see banters from both parties everybody tension is very high whatever the case may be so on that day remember so people will come there to you know discharge your grievances so on the fight or flight issues when an incident transpired but if nothing happened remain in your polyunit don't discuss about your political party don't go and start say peter obi ah no no the guy tried he went to a jubilee I've been seen the kind of people just a guy that stood on the road open his hand ah man truly let's be honest right this is Nigeria that is so hard because I go to the bank like when you queue up on the line that's literally all the conversation you have around you not election leader completely of how they are frustrated yes even on election day like when you go out to vote you would hear people like you have people talk yeah we're talking about personal safety now yeah there's possibility you go and talk all through the day there's possibility you go and gossip all through the day and possibility you go home safely yeah are you with me now we're talking about should be case of any eventuality what are the safety precautions you're supposed to take or for you to a vats any possible crisis yeah is it not better for me to keep quiet we've seen people being beaten up because they put on capital bishops here in Lagos is it on election day you never can tell where the instigation factor is coming from somebody might say see any person with this political shit beat him up why would you want to be the victim so that's why we're here tonight thank you I like what you said about predictive predictive profiling, predictive profiling, you propose somebody predictively you know you can tell his action you know when I came in here this evening I look at the three of us and say wow this country is blessed I'm not even talking about those guys in Japan and I say ah you guys all look like we would have been in Japan in the next ten years at least three of people I can see that you know you can you know carry on the campaign of say no to capitalism I mean we're talking about predictive profiling here and I mean we know that some of these styles have a certain look but then at the same time the same way you're educating us on how to dress smart and how to look good I feel like there are also people who would disguise okay yeah they're going to come there looking like the regular citizen like you and me they will look at us or they'll probably see someone like me I'm probably dressed like this coming to the polling units and they probably yeah I sense so not knowing I'm coming there to cause chaos I'm trying to break one but two one or two that kind of thing and I mean talking about that I also feel like it's important that people pay attention to these things like there might be somebody who is out there at the polling unit with you who is going to be smartly dressed doesn't necessarily mean the idea for peace yeah so that's why he also said like make sure that you are a lot I don't it doesn't matter some people might be there for a long time three hours and then they're causing they're causing trouble and causing chaos because I feel like even if you look at the whole money the narrow redesign thing and even at the banks sometimes you would not expect people who are going to cause chaos to be the ones to cause chaos that is true you know you never see it's coming but those are the people that they plant and I feel like because we as Nigerians or even as humans we profile people a lot there is this certain look we say oh this person looks like this so you should be like this but that might not necessarily be the case and because there's been a lot of profiling since 2020 up until now I feel like a lot of people are going to disguise on that day so it is important that you stay at a lot all right what I was talking just 30 seconds what I was talking about dress smart I'm not trying to let you define I'm not trying to define how you appear I'm talking trying to tell you in the case of any incident yeah can you run with a high heel if I check the two of yous everybody's going high heel yeah you know so can you run with a high heel so dress smart in the case of anything so I can run no I sometimes I've told the world clearly that she's athletic don't try her so she can take a flight in case of any incident anyway if you're just tuning we're discussing 2023 election safety and polling units with Dixon or Sergi please let's hear what you have to say remember you can join the conversation send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 081 80384663 you could also Twitter us at ratioafrica one with the hashtag ways show so yeah I mean we've been talking about profiling we've been talking about how to dress we've been talking about treat wise yes being street wise and I like that part as well you know where you see people I always say when you see people that look a certain type of way and then you want to start speaking English with them you're going to get them of course that's a valid point especially Nigerians who are coming in from outside touch we can just bend your cup no man is provocative it's just good to know man all he's talking man who's body man no they'll give you mess laugh oh my god man so you're giving me mess you're gonna say it's it's time sick man everybody's upset everybody's upset a lot of frustration when my car broke down the city the area boys came they told me that will give them 20 000 error so when the guy was talking and I'll say come I will change it for you guys so you want me to identify myself I can give you guys something but don't make it a muscle I try to talk to them and they don't I listen to them this evening I feel so bad those guys say they don't want to go into a robbery they don't want to go into a state it's how they speed you understand so 20 000 is coming we have the decision yes sorry the decision is the the price now hence yes to make Nigerian great again all right make Nigerian great again okay I think we have some comments I'm easy okay yes I was gonna ask a question okay please go ahead I was gonna ask Jason one more question in terms of being at the polling unit basically we also have the security officials there aside from them who else can we trust in the polling unit well over the years we've seen security officers compromising the election linearity system over the years we've seen security officers trying to you know support one or two particular parties just like in Portugal 2019 we saw military officers aiding a particular party whatever the case may be so this time around what we need to do is that first of all you trust yourself you know trust yourself and believe in your instincts your instincts will never lie to you whatever your instinct tells you to do do to not deceive you then it's true you trust the security officers best trust yourself before trusting any other person and talk less that very day because you don't know it's who even the security agents might have compromised their their duty call that very day so for you trust yourself if for the ladies we have personal self-protective equipment and that's what I've advertised ladies to have personal self-defense equipment yeah pepper spray and some other stuff I wouldn't like to say on air you know it's for your own self-defense because for me I will not fold my hands for you to come and take me out you can't take me out for you to take me out to take you out so self-defense is very important the reason why we're talking about self-defense is that we've seen the vulnerability of our security agent for so long we see our engineers die so cheap for so long even our security agents they are trained so hard and yet they are dying so cheap yeah see them being kid Saturday is coming God forbid but there's possibility that we're gonna have casualties but you know I earlier said in security we don't say God forbid but let me say God forbid for the purpose of this program okay Jennifer you have you have comments please all right so we have a comment here give me a moment okay let's talk at the polling units is the wisest thing to do on saturday let's talk less problem stay safe Nigerians and vote wisely and this is Raphael from Zarya thank you so much Raphael Sanji this one says stay safe and don't disclose whom you are voting for or had voted for if you are identified as a staunch supporter of a certain candidate please ensure that you avoid going to the area well known to be in a position to your candidate most importantly I advise that when final result is officially announced by iNEC refrain from staging a street protest I had what your guest said yesterday about marching if his candidate is robbed of victory I do not agree with him go to court please you can take a step further by articulating and reporting saying to the international community who are assuring us of punishing violators of this year's poll could us to ways for the enlightenment god bless you all Austin from Delta thank you so much Austin you see all right this is from our one and only Daniel Gillo and he says good evening my dear beautiful sisters of what are you saying can actually waste 2023 election safety at the polling units is your topic your guest has said it all he made mention of dressing smart and avoid public discussions which is key also we need to follow due process when it is time to vote let us place our thumb on the space provider concerning the choice of our candidate with enough ink concerning our choice of candidate with enough ink to make it bold lastly this election is not a do or die affair whoever loses should accept defeat and move on the person who loses should not feel that he is the one that should have won it should not be done like that it should not be done like that because I know that we are very bad users once again happy birthday to your producer my dear beautiful sister Amalola happy many returns and more years in Jesus night your regular fan Daniel Gillo thank you thank you Daniel thank you Daniel so I mean I don't think any other person could have said these things as well as Dixon has said it today he's giving us several pointers to look out for his told us how to stay safe I mean the part that is actually sticking with me is the flights not fights because I'm not going to stay back if I hear anything I'll be dust my shoes and I'm out of there you can also do with your african hair this American hair I'm not wearing that hair you guys true I just talk about predictive profiling you're looking you're looking so american listen wow wait you know why because listen even a single lady they will say you're a billionaire Sanzi don't allow these guys to come up to you and say man oh that's money that's money yes so don't allow them to predict you that mean they must be happy you know thank god for kidnapping this Nara Swap has made kidnapping has mitigated the rate of kidnapping most of these kidnappers have gone to they've gone on holiday that is why we also need to appreciate this Nara Swap personally I think I appreciate this Nara Swap because most of these kidnappers terrorists they've heard a lot of our ladies in the bush in their bushes in their various enclaves and this Nara Swap came as a shock I am not seeing it from the point of pain no pain no gain sometimes we need to go through pain we need to we need not to be anti-government most people think that this Nara design is something that's evil it's not evil because a lot of people have stuck this money and terrorist group they are using this money you know to buy amps and ammunition the right now the rate of terrorism and kidnapping has mitigated so thank you so much thank you thank you thank you Jenny thank you this year as well it was lovely having you ladies on the show before we go do ensure you follow us on instagram at ratio africa you can interact with us further drop a comment and most importantly follow all our social media engagement and remember to like share comment and invite your friends and family to watch us and follow us also I would say please go out to vote on Saturday please exercise your civic responsibility please please if you miss today's code here it is again you are your own last line of defense in safety it all boils down to you and this is by kina rep see you tomorrow at 8 p.m as we bring another great conversation to your screen bye