 I'm Jeremy Hansen, Vice Chair, filling in for Bradtown. We also have Dana Hadley, Town Administrator, and Diane Isabel on Treasurer. Is there any changes or additions to the agenda? I have none. Okay, great. Any public comment on items that are not on the agenda? Okay, Treasurer's report. Okay. I'm going to be going to an asset management meeting where it's a workshop the state is putting on at the end of April, which is exciting to me, because it's for the Water Division and it's going to give me insights on what to have for reserves, what to be looking for as far as maintenance items, and also the depreciation. I think the depreciation thing is something that I really need to delve into because our auditors have one thought, you know, there's many different thoughts out there. So if I can get something that is recommended by the state, I think it would be ideal. So I have one, it's a two-part workshop. The first part is in April and the second part is in June, so it's something that we'll be taking. Is there any part of the rate setting? They will be talking about it. Because I think that would be very valuable. Right, you know, we're, you know, do you go by usage or do you just set a rate and stuff like that? At some point, yeah. It was a lot of things, and this is very limited. They can only have up to 10 people at a time, so I want to make sure to get in early. So that to me is very, very helpful. Also, I have seven properties I've sent to the attorney for tax sale, and probably not all of them go to tax sale. A lot of times when somebody gets a letter from the attorney, then they'll respond. Okay, but these people have not responded to the numerous times I've asked them to. So I've got those two, and I've got two others that I cannot locate the people. There's one where the house is abandoned, and I know that their mortgage company wants to foreclose on it, but I've sent something to the mortgage company saying, I can't find these people. I do plan on sending a tax sale, and I've talked to the town attorney, and he said, you send that one to me first, because we need to find a way to locate these people. And from what I understand, the couple divorced, I have no idea where they went. I can't find them. Then I have another one that's just land only, that's not, it's up on Highland Avenue, and the person that owned it at one point, I don't know what happened to him. He was elderly, I believe. I think he may have passed away. I can't find anything on him. I've really researched it. That's another one I've sent to the attorney because it's owned by a corporation. The corporation still exists, but this was something that went back to the 80s. So it's just one of those deals where it's better, I think, for us to spend the money, we have the attorney do it the correct way. So I have seven that I'm sure of, but these other two, I'm not sure exactly when that will happen, but I just want to make you aware I'm working on that. And that's all I've got for it. Thank you very much, Forgiveness, for balances under $5. Okay, so I can just pass these around. I have got seven of them, and for a total of $2.29. We do this every year, right? Every quarter, just about. And this is something that we approved starting last, not this year's town meeting, but town meeting 2017. Actually, it was after the charter was approved. It was after the charter. Oh, the charter. I think it was probably last year. Last year, yeah. Yeah, great, yeah. And I think last quarter was the first quarter you get. Probably, yes. In December. Okay, yeah. So we're in motion. Either that or the second time. Almost did we allow Forgiveness for the balances to under $5. What was the total here? $2.29 for total. Let me cover it, I'll get it. Do I have a second? A second. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. None opposed, none abstaining? Thank you. Approval of licenses, permits, vouchers, and applications. I'll move that we approve general fund accounts payable warrant. 18G19 of the checks, 17966 to 17995, and they amount 39,384 dollars and 14 cents. Boyd check 17953, and they amount of 3561.30, and approve apparel warrant number 18-20 for payroll March 18th, 2018 to March 31st, 2018, in the amount of $39,525.58. Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. None opposed, none abstaining? Motion passes. Okay. Appointment of town representative to Central Vermont Internets. We had gotten a letter. I discussed this last time from Jeremy Hansen, the acting clerk of Central Vermont Internet asking for a representative from the community to be appointed as our representative. We advertised that. It was, yeah. And did we receive any? I did not. I move that we elect Jeremy Hansen as our board member. I second that. Okay, any further discussion? Thank you very much, by the way. All in favor? Aye. None opposed, none abstaining? Motion passes. Could I have a motion to authorize, and I guess I would ask Brad to sign this, would that be? Yep. To have the chair sign on behalf of the board. I'll move to authorize our chairman to sign this appointment. All right, can we? Yeah, it's okay. Okay. Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. None opposed, none abstaining? Thank you very much, that passes. And we have Robert Lamerk Green Lantern Group. Welcome. Thank you. Yes, I'm Robert Lamerk from Bournemouth. Nice to see you again. Last time we were here, we presented the overview of a net metering agreement on a specific project, which ultimately, it's no longer available. So we needed to go back to the drawing board. There is a very little difference between the original project and this project, except they fall into slightly different regulatory regimes, but the numbers work out to be approximately the same. And the heart of the proposal is that the town would enter into an agreement to buy from a specific project, which is yet to be determined. The company has an inventory of projects which are fundamentally identical. They're all 150 kilowatt projects and that number 150 is chosen, essentially to comply with the current rules of the Public Utilities Commission, which sort of optimizes the solar adders that are associated with projects of different sizes. So that became effective in 2017. And as a result of that, most of the projects that are being built in Vermont are approximately two acres. The specific project that we're looking at here is in fact available. And if nobody else grabs it, then it'll be this one. If somebody else grabs it, then it'll be another one just like that. But the numbers are reliable. Essentially, what it does is take the net meter credits that are developed by this array and credit them to the accounts of the town of Berlin, which are listed in the proposal. And specifically, there are a number of water pumps that would be beneficiaries and receive a discounted cost as a result of this proposal. And there would be an agreement in effect to buy at these credits against the town's bills at a discount for a period of 20 years. It's important to note that even though the solar adders that are associated with solar power in Vermont only last 10 years, the discount is for the entire period of time, a 20-year period with optional renewals if we get out that far. And essentially what it does is to create a 12% discount off of paying your bill without this program. And when I say your bill, the regulation focuses exclusively on energy charges and excludes things like service fees and efficiency charges and things like that. It's just in the statute and that's, can't do anything about that. We have also carved out of the deal a factor of 15% of the town's current energy consumption. The town's energy consumption could drop by 15% and the deal would be completely unchanged. If the town's consumption were to drop lower than that, what happens is going to be a function of what electricity prices are at the time that that happens because we can expect in all probability that electricity prices are going to continue to rise and that it'll take more net meter credits to pay the same amount of consumption simply because each kilowatt hour costs more. That's a very frequent comment is sometimes folks are concerned that they're going to end up with what's known as stranded credits. Stranded credits are net meter credits that are older than 12 months old. They expire without value. But just the natural progression of prices and we have a historic inflation of between two and 3%, we use 2% in our calculations. We'll require that bill basically to require net meter credits, even if your consumption drops further than that 15% corridor. I realize that that's a complicated thought. Hopefully you can visualize what I'm talking about. 20 years from now, a kilowatt hour is a metacost, what it costs they will cost more and therefore it'll require more net meter credits to pay the same bill. And essentially the way this is set up results in a savings to the town without any investment, responsibility for any physical property, maintenance, liability. All that happens essentially is that the array produces power, that power is recorded and reported to Green Mountain Power and offsets your bill without any intervention. That's all automatic from this time forward. And the project owner will invoice the town for 88% of the value of those $1 credits. That's the guaranteed 12% discount. Well, you pay the project owner 12, 88 cents on the dollar, Green Mountain Power credits you a dollar. Got it. So my question is, you've got a 10 year power purchase agreement. It's a 20, 20 year. Your power purchase agreement with Green Mountain Power? We don't have a power purchase agreement with, what we have, not really, Wayne, because for example, in some circumstances there's a negative solar adder which continues long after the 10 years. So it's not restricted to 10 years, technically. So we're getting 88% of 19 cents? 18.84. Yeah. So we're getting 88% of 19 cents, let's call it. If in year 11, the adder goes away. And your credits then are, let's just call it 14 cents. And we're getting 88% of 14 cents. Our investment or our credits are gonna be less than the first 10 years. Your credits will be, well, in the exhibit which I sent, it shows the development of the ray. So just to take you through that, it's 14.919 cents in 2018, and that's basically, that's a fictitious rate that exists for no other purpose other than determining the value of a net meter credit. It's not what you're paying, it's not intended to be. It's just simply a statutory number for determining the value of that credit. The adder is one cent for the fact that we're doing this on disturbed land. It's an old landfill. And three cents for actually the, it says REX here. It's really environmental attributes that are defined under the law, but the REX themselves are retired. They are returned to Green Mountain Power and they have no further value. They're retired without any compensation. They just go away. That four cents continues for 10 years. Okay, after that point in time, yes, the net, the value of a net meter credit will be reduced by that four cents. However, the 12%, you will still get the 14 cents and you will get the 14 cents for a 12% discount. So the discount remains 12%. Though more than likely you have a greater number. Yes. So it's, I mean, 12% of a hundred percent, but it's a different number. So you're gonna get a 12% discount, 14 cents instead of 19 cents. Yeah. Which means you're, right, but also it sounds like our net meter and credit stays the same even though our cost of electricity can go up over the years. I'm just wondering why that doesn't. So, but no, because we're gonna get, we're gonna pay 88% of 19 cents in the first 10 years. Yes. Let's just call it 10 years and say that's the way it is. We're gonna pay 88% of 19 cents for the first 10 years. Then the four cents goes away and we're gonna pay 88% of 14 point, whatever cents. Yes, one technical detail is that the 14.19 cents can go up by decree of the state. Correct. Yeah. So it would probably, I mean, 10 years from now, it's not gonna be 14.9, it's gonna be some higher number. You would hope. Yeah. So we don't know what that is. Right, this is my position. There's a discontinuity. I understand the discontinuity. So my position is I built a 500 kilowatt solar field and I'm purchasing all the power myself for my businesses. And I'm willing to take the gamble on year 11 through 20 because it's my business and my money. Right. And if they say it after 10 years that they're gonna pay eight cents, well, then I guess I didn't make such a good deal. But it's my money. Yeah. When we're talking about the taxpayers' money in 20 years, then I have a hard time with the unknown from years 11 through 20. Mm-hmm. That's why I have the questions. Yeah. Well, one would think that over the first 10 years that I mean, you would have built up a, you know, 3,000 times 10, you would have built up a $30,000 profit simply by entering into the deal. So you've got that. So the odds of showing a loss on it are severely diminished by what happened in the first 10 years. And I mean, as you know, as an investor in solar plans, everything good happens in the first several years. Right. And thereafter, basically, we are reliant on economic factors that cannot be predicted. I mean, it's possible to, I mean, there will always be a discount off of the rate that would be paid by any other customer not involved in this agreement. And that's a very important point. If you didn't have it, you would definitely pay more than if you had it because you got that 12% discount that they don't get. Mm-hmm. So what do we have for backups of some catastrophe? I mean, and you know, in 20 years or excuse me, 10 years or 11 years, the state is everybody's on solar or whatever. Is there some sort of, wonder if they get smashed or wrecked or the hail or a hurricane or whatever? That's an important point. The entire array isn't short. It is the interests of the town as off-taker are completely aligned with the interests of the project owner because he don't get paid unless he produces power. But I'm actually just thinking about where are we? Are we without power for? No, no, no. No, because you are connected to Green Mountain Power is great at all times. You're paying all your money to Green Mountain Power instead of paying part of it to Green Mountain Power. All right. Yeah, but that's the state energy plan basically is to have distributed power generators with some type of storage system. And that's where they're headed with sort of micro grids so that if one area of the state or the megalopolis to the south gets hit, we could recover quicker because we have these local generators and local storage facilities. That's the plan. Why would this be better than doing something like a like a local net metering thing where we're putting it on our own structures here? That can be done. And in some circumstances, it is done. However, I mean, I've got panels on my roof and I thought I was facing due south and it turns off, I'm like a few degrees off and instead of getting 5.1 kilowatts a year, I'm getting like 4.8 just because I'm not facing the equator here. I mean, I don't know what direction is south here but if you're off a couple of degrees or if they're covered with snow, you're not gonna get the power that you will with panels that are precisely placed and free of shading. Also, you eliminate the hassle that would be associated with leaks in your roof and having to replace the panels, remove the panels to replace a leak. Here, you've got no physical incovences that's all been, you don't have to worry about it. You just pay the bill. So 2 cents a kilowatt is what we're talking about is there a discount approximately? Yeah, I mean, it's a difference between, I mean, with all of the adders, it's 1892 and with the 12% discounted, 1665, you're getting as a credit. So the $30,000 over 10 years, $3,000 a year at 2 cents a kilowatt, that's based on what demand and what meters. That is based on Shed Road, the, that's the general highway, Shed, the Partridge Farms Pump, the Barry Montpelier Main Pump, the Dodge Farm Pump, and the Shaw's Pump. There's one meter that I excluded simply because it was so small. It's just not worth the administrative hassle. Also, I believe there were some streetlights. What portion of that is the Shaw's Pump? The Shaw's Pump of 207,000 kilowatt hours, the Shaw's Pump is almost 52, so about a quarter. So the town has a contract in place with an engineering firm to design a gravity line to eliminate the Shaw's Pump station. That's just important information. That is very important information. It should factor into the agreement. Because that's 25% of the tax. Oh, yeah, yeah, there goes. Barry Montpelier wrote one. Yes, yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, once I, I suggest that you vote on the concept. If you like the concept, let's fine tune it, you know, make adjustments for reality so that everybody's happy. I mean, you've done all that work. No, don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, but the point is that all that's gonna change. I know that. So why don't we let it change and then decide? Well, okay, then provide to me what you think. But with it, my estimate is within 18 months, the Shaw's Pump station goes away. Goes away. Okay, so we remove that, we're down to 150. A little more than 150. I actually got the description of what this is about. The rubber meets the rubber. I got it last time we were back. Oh, so this is back in January. Here is... Yeah, I didn't send this again. Here's a copy. Thank you. And also this goes with that one I have. Okay, yeah, I don't, I don't... Okay, fine. And given a moment, I could do some calculations and I mean, it's gonna be, well, let's see, if we go from 207. 071. 51. 991. Minus, it's 155,080. 155. 080. And store that. We've got 207. 071, enter, recall. That's 25% almost on the nose. Okay, so if we just take that and apply it to the $3,017, that's where we're going down. It's $200 here. Right, yeah. Which is fine. The saying then is that we're gonna save $200 a month. We're gonna save that with the 12%. No, we're saving it because we're getting 19 cents and we're getting it and we're paying 88% of 19 cents. That's why we're saving it. Yes. It's just, so we'll save 20, something, $1,000 over the first 10 years and we're game one on the second 10. I don't see how you're game one. Well, what if the utility companies have a flood of cheap power? And at the end of 10 years, they say we're gonna pay you eight cents? Pay us eight cents. A kilowatt. They're not paying us anything. Okay, let's say that they'll buy your power for eight cents. Well, that would mean retroactively changing a contract which is legally binding. Not after 10 years, right? Yeah, it is. Do you have a 10-year power purchase agreement or do you have a 20-year contract? What I'm saying is that under Puck 5100, let's assume you have a negative solar adder because you were bad and you built it on something scenic or built it over 500K. That is forever. That tells me that this agreement lasts far longer than, I mean, there's no 10-year expiry on these agreements. So in your opinion, the 10 years is only on the adder? Yeah. It's specific to the adder and I can send you a copy of Puck 5100, you can take a look, but it breaks it out item by item. So what you're saying is, in your opinion, the worst thing that could happen is you get the going rate? Less than 12%. No, but I'm saying, I'm thinking as the developer, the worst case is you're gonna get paid the going rate. Right, right. Well, you'd be paying, getting the going rate inflated for 10 years on equipment that you bought 10 years prior and depreciated. And yeah, one and a half percent degradation and so on. Yeah, but I mean, you know, you know how it works. I do. It's just easier for me to gamble with my own money than with the 10-year expiry. I don't see a gamble here. I mean, you're always going to end up better under this than you will without it simply because of the discount. The 12%. The 12%. I'm not saying it's a whole heck of a lot of money. On the other hand, it's a good idea. And it's a nice thing for the town to do. There's some like soft reasons why you should be doing this. I won't get into them, but there's some nice reasons why you should be doing this. I agree. That's why I did it myself. Yes, I know. It is funny working with that money as opposed to your own. It's so easy to swing your bat with your own, but then when suddenly the phone starts ringing and why there's a problem. You have to be able to defend it. And it's defending something that is complex, admittedly complex, but just the same. I mean, I just went through this with another customer. His thing was, well, what if the price of electricity collapses completely? I don't know what could possibly do that. I mean, it's not like we're going to all have fuel cells in 10 years. And if we did have fuel cells, how do those fuel cells get? Did we buy them? Did we finance them? There's too many holes in that. And anything that could possibly drive the cost of electricity will be system-wide for a green mountain power and you've always got a discount. So, love the idea of building solar. I'm gonna put that out there right away. The accounting and how this works out is complex. It's too complex for me to fully understand right now. This is the first time that I've seen this. I need more time before I'm able to say anything one way or the other. I could not vote yes on this right now. Yeah, and I can explain further why doing this deal compared to building it ourselves makes sense. Okay. Well, just point to fact, if you wanted to do the same deal by yourself, the cost of doing that is $295,000. That's what it would cost to build this system. Right, but that's not what I'm meaning. So, I'm somebody like Suncommon, who I'm slightly more familiar with the way that they have organized where they will absorb the cost of the construction and then that essentially gets spread out over the bills over the course of time. Well, I'm a Suncommon customer too. And let me explain to you about what I think you've just described. I have a system on my house, which was built by Suncommon. God bless him, I love him. They're great people, but it's a retail operation. It's not, and we have, there's a piece of paper in here that shows some of our customers that I would urge you to take a look at. But what they've got is a credit with Vermont Employee State Credit Union, which I have that loan. And it's a tax anticipation loan. And it basically will advance, it's a deal that amortizes over 12 years with a 20 year amortization schedule. And it depends on you giving them back the 30% tax credit that you get to keep a level payment. I have that loan, it's a wonderful loan. It has no relationship to this. And it's hardly, they're not, they can't finance this. Right, but I understand the accounting of that. I understand how they move the pieces around and how that's funded. I still do not understand. But this is the first time you've seen it? Okay, so why don't we spend a couple of minutes and I'll take you through it. Okay, this is not something that I'm going to absorb in a public meeting. I'm a scientist, I need time, I'm going to sit with this data and I need to chew on this myself. Well, if it's okay with you, perhaps we should meet over a cup of coffee. Yeah, and I'll take you through it so that you do feel comfortable with it. But this is, there is one handout which I want to make sure that you receive. And that is, what is that metering? And why do we do this? And we do this because the town, like so many universities, hospitals and other not-for-profits has no tax bracket. And the incentives that make solar possible in the United States are all tax driven. And therefore you need a partner that has a tax appetite. And what we do in some common does not do this is to connect financing to these projects so that they can actually be built. Without that, the town would need to resort, well, first of all, the project would never break even in a zero tax bracket. If you went to VEDA and financed this, it will never break even. And that's just the reality of the situation. So the town would need to go get grants. And getting a grant for this amount of money could take a very significant amount of time. And you're still at a point where you could still do business with us because we do these things souped enough for, we do them anyway, right? So you still need to go find somebody who's capable of locating a site for you, doing the site work on that, making sure that there's no toxic waste or other things that are associated with it, designing it, sourcing all the materials, getting the permits for it, making the interconnections and then maintaining it. You know, I realize that 200 bucks a month is not a whole lot of money, but it's the only way I think the town will ever get solar. I think that's just the reality of the situation. Okay, so I, like I said, I'm gonna need more time to chew on this. So unless you guys need, unless you guys have something else. Like you said, when you came in, there's no rush on this one, the deal was. Well, the only rush, and I'm hesitant to tell you. But already, we're booked into November. And, well, I mean. If he's not comfortable. Well, it's not that he's not comfortable, he just hasn't had an opportunity to digest that. We'll have another meeting, and we can discuss it. Okay, Jeremy, you were just elected to the Select Board? No. I've been on the Select Board for a while. Okay, and have you not seen this material? It could have been in a packet and a meeting that I reviewed, and I was just not physical. Yeah, I probably should have sent it to you this last time. So, I apologize. Yeah. But it's the same material you gave a few weeks ago. Essentially, yeah. When you gave it before. Yes, yes, it's the same, same as it was before. I haven't seen it in a lot of my previous meetings. Yeah, we should keep in mind that this is a function of interest rates, which are generally in a rising mode. And that the deal will not improve if interest rates go up. We should also keep in mind that President Trump has declared a pretty significant tariff on imported solar panels, which won't take effect for a while. But there are things that could make this all go away. Yeah. Did you have any, Wayne? Did you need one? Oh. I have it. Wayne, are you comfortable that there's really not a whole lot of way to get burned here? What I was gonna explain and what I said when I said that I could explain why this was logical as opposed to the town putting in panels was exactly that, the tax, the tax rate. Because the tax incentives are what make this flow. Right. It's the only way it makes it possible. Basically, the depreciation is going to somebody else. They're lending them money. And accepting all the risks. That makes sense. That starts with the pieces together. Yeah. But I mean, I wouldn't rush into things about a tariff or about a president or I would never do that myself. And Brad's not here and Marina's not here. Okay. And so. Well, I certainly don't wanna rush you. I want you to be happy. Right. And the thing is, we're sitting here listening to you. Yeah. You ought to hear me out in the parking lot and try to explain it to somebody else in half an hour. Okay. I'll be like, Paul Wayne. Well. My suggestion, Pete, is, you know, it's kind of like understanding how a car runs. The credits go on your bill. You pay the owner of the system part. You pay Green Mountain a bit apart. And at the end of the day, you end up with a discount. That's it. The rest is all in contracts. And you got Rob to review the contract. But you don't need to know the order of the firing of the spark plugs. Yeah, that's a dangerous place to go. Right. That's the place where I left to go. Yeah. Terrific. But then let's meet. Huh? Let's meet. What's your availability this week? Not this week. No, it'll have to be some other time. I had my kids this week and I have a child. Okay, can I get your car? You say you're a scientist? I am. What type of scientist are you? Computer scientist. Deal with data. Great. When would you like me to reschedule this? Any ideas? It'd be nice that everybody's here. Yeah. We'll assume that everyone will be here at the meeting when we schedule it. Yeah, I mean, I will be here at the meeting on the 16th. I mean, that's soon enough. I should be able to. I will not be here. Okay? Be traveling. When I put it in for that. Yeah. If there's any issues. Yeah, I mean, I don't really, you know, if Jeremy takes some time and reduce the materials and perhaps meets with me or contacts me with any specific questions, you don't need me here alone. Well, if we had questions, we could find you. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get the floor up and I'm reachable. Right. Cool. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Nice to see you. Nice to meet you, Robert. We have approval of select board minutes for March 19th, 2018. Congratulations. I have a couple of just spelling corrections. Okay. If we go down to appointments to boards. Yeah, bye-bye. Appointments to boards, page three. Under two-year terms, that's the second one there. This is Beth Doubt, D-A-U-T. Thank you. Over in the same line, Phil Gentilly, G-N-T-I-L-E. Okay. Down in the three-year terms in the second line, you have Alan Sulek, which should be Ellen, E-L-L-E-N, Sulek, S-U-L-E-K. I think that's all I have. On page four, approval of previous meeting minutes. The last, we had two meetings. Hanson moved to approve the minutes for the Monday, March 5th. Pre-Ton meeting, select board meeting seconded by Lamberton, past four-zero, select board member, Kaepern abstained. So it says passed unanimously, but it should be four-oh, and Roy, Kenjuli, not abstained. Okay. I think she did say aye. Right. She, yes. Okay, great. Thank you. With those corrections, I'll move that we approve the meeting minutes of March 20th. Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. The ayes have it. Motion passes. Town Administrator report. I have a few things, not too much. I did send copies for informational purposes of the EMS reports. I got two months, January and February, which you should have gotten. And I believe there was a follow-up, an email that I'd received from Laura Stone regarding the 302 bridge that I enclosed. I wanted to make the board aware that the Public Works Board did receive a preliminary engineering report regarding the development of the fourth well. And roughly at the moment, there are a couple alternatives, but roughly to get the well online, there's a couple of options that are shown, but I believe it was $400,000, roughly for the lower price alternative, which is to have the well located in such a spot that we can use our existing storage, our public storage, that area. So that is something that the Public Works Board will be wrestling with, but I wanted the board to be aware of that, because at some point, there's gonna be a financing if we decide to go forward with that at this time. Do they know what that well will produce? I mean, is it the same hour, probably? I have not read this yet, and so I don't know the answer to that, but I could find out. It's a, but I haven't read it yet. Right, well, Tom and I talked about this, and he said that the Public Works Board had received this, and I'm just gonna give the board a heads up that things are happening with that. Tom has also given me a tentative schedule for the town plan approval process, which the board will be involved by having a couple of public hearings regarding that. And tentatively, the board public hearings on the town plan approval would be in June, and last meeting in June, first meeting in July. They're hoping that it would be ready to be voted on August 14th. So that is in the works. Is that the primary election, or is that it? I believe that is the, I always get these confused. It is not the general election, it's the primary for state offices and things like that. And finally, the League of Cities and Counts, we had a representative come in today to kind of go through our offices to give us some ergonomic suggestions. As is no surprise, everybody's chair is wrong. Everyone's ergonomics is wrong. In fact, I came out the best. I was very proud to tell you that. And I'm gonna be talking to the staff about it, but we will be coming to the board at some point when we know what it is that might make sense for us to do. Again, it's nothing that's gonna bankrupt the town, but I think it's important for the town to consider it, save and workers, comp claims anyway. Right, sure. $35,000 table, maybe? No, I'll do the $31,000. I think that'll be great. Can I have your old chair? Yeah. Absolutely. So that's what we've been doing this week. Great, round table. All set. Also all sets, will we have the executive session? We do not. Okay. We'll move to adjourn. Second. For the discussion, I'll take it. All right. All right. That's all right.