 All right, forward members, it's 6.15, I'd rather keep moving with this rather than hold us here. If anyone has any objections, please tell me, but otherwise we've noticed this meeting, we are recording it, we'll have minutes out there. I'm comfortable moving forward. If anyone objects, please tell me and I'll honor it, but otherwise I'm going to move forward and Mr. Schroek, I'll let you comment on the January 20, 24 minutes. If you remember what your comment was. Well, this is pretty petty, but Page 2, Line 32, Levi stated that these is interest and sublease, should be there. Is interest in sublease? That's all. Hangar's still wrong. Thank you. Just the room that I do read the same. Hangar's still wrong. I'm sorry, I just went to another page. Yeah, and hangar's still wrong too. All right, so we've got Page 2, Line 32, that should be Levi stated, there is an interest in sublease, the hangar's spelled correctly. Beneath his office, right? Yes. Okay. Okay, and then I missed Page 2. Hold on, Melinda. It was just another board member. I thought they were all in the first group. Page 2, Line 2, another board member. Page 2 and 2. All right, and then Page 2, Line 2, double board member again. Okay, does anyone else have any comments, revisions to the January 2024 minutes? I'll make a motion. Thank you. That we approve it with the changes. All right, so we've had moved and double-seconded, but I heard Talis first, so moved and seconded to approve the minutes as amended. Further comments? All right, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. We will move on then to... I do not know how to control the screens at all. I don't know, Levi, if you do, or anybody else. They were working. Oh, I just went to sleep. Are we good? Our next agenda item then is updates from the airport manager, and Levi, I will turn it to you. All right, I got a list to go through here. I think the thing we've been doing is I'll cover topic and I'll pause for questions on topics and stuff like that. First item, we are working with an engineering group that has an on-call contract with the city to do a drainage review on the south side of the airport. We've talked about this a little bit in past meetings. Prior to really being able to develop anything on the south side of the airport in the future, we have to get a good general idea of what drainage improvement requirements are required on them. That's kind of been the hang up for anybody who's asked for putting anything down there at the moment. It's always come to the question of like, okay, the city is going to require us to do drainage improvements. What are those drainage improvements going to be? So we are hiring a... I think it's Anderson is the name of the local engineering company with the contract of the city. They're going to go down there and do an evaluation on that, and then give us recommendations and then project cost estimates and stuff like that for moving forward with those improvements. So that's in the work. Excuse me. Any potential questions on that? Excuse me. All right. Next thing I have, again, kind of an old issue, which is an update on sign repair during kind of an in-depth review of some of the airport signage and stuff like that. Some deeper problems were found with some of the circuit boards in them and stuff like that. So we had to order actually, I think, four new circuit boards for some of the signs out there. That, plus some additional repairs are going to be pretty pricey. I think the total price tag is going to be like $16,000 to get that repaired. It was expensive at a point where we actually just priced out potentially getting new signs. Unfortunately, that priced out to be about $30,000. So we'll probably be sticking with repairs on those. Last I heard, they're expecting to get the new boards for those in April. So unfortunately, a long lead time on getting those boards in to get the signs fixed. I should clarify, I'm speaking about the lighted airfield signs on that. Any questions on that? Which signs are out? I've got the list. I've got a map. There's just mostly that we're having issues with the direction signs and the location signs on the airfield. So, you know, the ones that show the runway and the directions to the taxiway and stuff like that. I think there's five in total and putting four of them in new boards. I can't, you know, I can see them in my mind, but I couldn't tell you with any direct clarity exactly which ones they are. I have a map. Okay. Next item, I guess I got on there. I started just preliminary doing a quick little conference, summer conference review. Kind of figure out what's conference we can potentially go to this summer. Of course, CAOA, Colorado Airport Operator Association, which later I'll actually give an update on that conference I went to here last week. They'll be having their course. There's some of the conference. I'll probably plan on heading into that. One that's kind of in the works to potentially go to. There's a sustainable aviation conference going on in the United States in Albuquerque this year. If that's something that we can potentially do in an affordable fashion, that's high up on my list for something that I'd like to do. So just kind of started thinking, you know, do some preliminary planning for, you know, continuing education and training and stuff like that. So that's kind of out there. Anything on that? Okay. Grants, starting to process through some of the grants. I actually just got the grant back from Harold for, you know, look at the thickness on that thing right there. I had to go back twice because a couple signatures got missed, but I just finally picked it up on my way in today. That's for the wildlife fence completion. Finally, hooray for that. So our airport will be less of a crowd and more of an actually fenced off area. So that work should be going on hopefully beginning in the summer. So processing forward with that. Any questions on the wildlife fence? We've talked about that one quite a bit. We did finally, finally, finally get ballards on site to start bringing up the fire hydrants, the gas meters and stuff like that to spec on the airport. So we, you know, pass fire standards and stuff like that. They are on site and those will be going in at public works as discretion when they have crews available and also when they can actually get into the ground and dig those out and put them in. Okay. Where am I? Taxiway removal. We did finally, much to the FAs, the light to get that little old chunk of taxiway removed off the end of 2.9. Where it kind of hooks up to the blast pad. Some of you might not even notice it because it's so grown over you could hardly have to squint to see the asphalt out there. But there was an old taxiway which connected the blast pad area to that asphalt taxiway that wraps around off the end of alpha. FAA hated that because they don't like surfaces that could potentially be confused for taxi surfaces. And so that's been kind of on their nitpicky list for a while. We did get that removed just a couple weeks ago, finally finished up. Questions on that? Okay. RFP, there's an RFP out right now for mowing and I'm very excited to say that we've got more people interested in it this year. So hopefully we'll have some competitive bids out there. We've also had some conversations with exactly what needs to be mowed. We've gotten better mowing maps now that we can actually put on those requests for proposals. So we've really got that dialed in better than we had to last year. It was kind of an ad hoc thing when our mower quit halfway through the season. So I'm excited that we'll get some good bids on that this year. Anything on mowing? Mr. Dean. When are you going to start taking bids? So as of right now, I want to say two days ago, we just finished up making the official mowing map. So to my understanding, that's supposed to be going out the end of this week or the beginning of next week to procurement. And then it's kind of at the discretion of procurement for how that gets out. So I will not venture to guess when that's actually going to hit out there. You have a deadline or cut off like a time? Well, we definitely have to have somebody when a mowing season starts. So that's what I will stress to them as we progress through that process. GIS, oh. So something that we've kind of been talking about since I got here and Public Works is now making more of a concerted effort to actually get done. They do have a city system, which is supposed to track all, if you will, points of repair. They get the exact name of the program and escapes me. But they use GIS to track each individual taxi light, each individual sign, the windsocks, anything that potentially means maintenance. So they can go out there, they have a work log every time someone goes out there to work on it, stuff like that, increase efficiency out there. We started to do that in 2022 when I first got here and it kind of tapered off. So I kind of re-initiated that discussion with Public Works and they agree that we do need to get that. So we're going to get a team out there to start marking all the locations, putting in the GIS map, every taxi light, every windsock, you know, where the electric locker is, everything. So when there's called out for a job, it's in the city system as an identifiable point. Can you just define GIS? Oh my gosh, can I define GIS? So essentially mapping is what we're talking about, interactive mapping, getting out there and marking the specific locations of area, you know, in this case objects. So you have an interactive map that you can go to that's got data information, stuff like that. Thank you. Geographic information system. Thank you. Geographic information. I always miss the G, but yeah, thank you. Any comments, questions? Great. Oh, I had had a little additional thing there that the minutes remind me of. There was someone interested in the sublease. I have since heard back from them and they are that all their whole plans are kind of on hold now. He was initially wanting to do a helicopter school in the area. And what he said was that in kind of the over the holiday season, he learned of a couple other upstarts on the front range that are starting helicopter training. He's kind of scared off by the competition. It sounds like because it went from no competition to two other companies and he kind of he's kind of hesitating now. It sounds like. And the last thing I have on my list is hangar inspections moving forward. That's something that we've been talking about doing for the last couple years. I've been trying to put in all my communications, let people know it's kind of coming. What's really kind of kicking it off was I had a meeting with the fire department. They're also 100% on, they say they have to absolutely do hangar inspections for fire reasons this year. And while I hate potentially piggybacking, there's no reason why two city entities need to do inspections, why we shouldn't be doing them at the same time just so we don't inconvenience people. So that is the most likely going to come this summer. So right now we're thinking of strategies, kind of the best way to make sure that we're being as accommodating as we can to everybody and hangar owners and stuff like that. And that would probably be over the course of several days, including weekend days, over the summer to give people options to do that with. That's just kind of in the exhibit stages. The fire department essentially said, yeah, we absolutely have to do it. They haven't done them, I guess, since before the pandemic. So they're a couple years behind on where they even need to be for their records. And that's kind of the last item I had. Any questions on that? Vice-Chair Jordan. On the hanger inspections from the fire department standpoint, I had them at my business and I know they come in and they say, nope, nope, nope. And they tell you to remove things and they tell you space heaters and offices are a biggie. And then they check everything else and they make some recommendations. How does it go with the hangars? It's going to be pretty much the same. So what I asked them to do, and we had in our preliminary meetings, I said, hey, can you guys, the ones that remember actually doing them before? I said, can you write up a quick list of the things that you found that were not to standard? So the hope is they're going to write up a list of the things that they found are not to standard. And then we're going to publish that way in advance. So we're going to say, hey, hangar inspections. And by the way, here are the things that most commonly we find to give people a way big heads up. So they don't even have to worry about it. And just to be educated on what they consider a brisk until the tell you space heaters are a no-no. Yeah, they promised me a very nice list. And on top of that, they always, one of the top things they always find is fire extinguishers not to code. So it's our plan. Again, prior to the inspections, the cities actually said that they will hire a company to come out and actually service fire extinguishers. And they'll do it, we'll do like a posting where they're like two weekends or something like that. And we'll have like a table set if I don't know, somewhere around the FBO. They'll essentially be, hey, come in, bring your fire extinguisher, you'll get inspected, they'll get it tested. You know, if they need to be recertified, they'll do stuff like that. I seem to remember we had that before. Yeah, so they said they did that once before and they got a really good response from it. So they wanted to do it again. Good. Good. Thank you. And that's all I had for the update. Any questions for Levi? Yeah. Levi, then the other question. I'm sorry. Mr. Dean, go ahead. Can you move them right down now? We spent so far on snow removal. What? Snow removal. How much have you spent so far on snow removal? For 2024? Yeah. Nothing. So we've been fortunate to the point where right now we've only had a couple of snows really and the public works has just been kind of hitting the taxiways, the main runway and stuff like that. We haven't had to call our own call since January. So doing pretty good so far. So we'll hopefully be within budget here. Okay. Thank you. So what is the weekend brings? Yeah, we'll see what this weekend brings. Levi, my question for you is related to what Mr. Manley talked about in the first public meeting to be heard into invoicing and kind of details you can have on the invoice. And I apologize if I'm misunderstanding what you said since I can't ask you questions. This is awkward. But I want the chance for Levi to talk about it and then you can correct us if we're wrong at final public meeting to be heard. No, absolutely. That's actually something that because we've been first of the year been deep in to the financial side of stuff. And I've been doing more and more meetings with finance because I'm kind of finding some disconnects and stuff like that. So that's actually a conversation I had last week. And again, this week with them is kind of how we do the invoices themselves. So one of the first things that came out of that when we were doing this audit is we've decided that, all right, for CPI stuff, what we should probably do is an individual communication at the beginning of every year when we apply it. And then we'll just blast that out to the airport. So that's on there. But then the other question that came up is what data is actually on the invoices themselves. So when I send the invoicing data to the finance department, it's just myriad of information, right? It's got like the start data lease and the end data lease. And what the last year's lease rate was, what this year's is with the CPI and it shows the CPI and stuff like that. And over this last few months, I've been kind of dealing with some invoices and stuff like that and actually getting invoices back from the tenants. And yeah, in some cases, there's not quite the information that I would probably like to see on the invoices. So that's actually kind of on our docket for adjusting this year is what information is appropriate to put on those invoices and make them as clear and concise as possible. Thank you. I hope you'll take the feedback you heard tonight and I'll please give us more if you don't think it's being reflected as they go through that. So thank you. Anyone else have any questions, comments for Levi on updates from the airport manager? Mr. Schuch. Yeah, I would also like to see Levi, the data that you're using for the CPI adjustment. Oh yeah. My hangar complex in Monterey, we put out, we get a letter from, we use a San Francisco CPI. Yeah. So just a little more information, you know, because in my case, and we've talked about it, you know, it's jumped up every year with no explanation. I realize there's a CPI adjustment, but there's no explanation. Yeah. And that's one of the kind of things that came out in my discussion with the finance department is when I send this stuff out, all the data I have, like it's supposed to show you what your lease payment was, what the CPI is and what your new lease payment is, but they just haven't been putting that data on the invoices. So that was kind of the first step is like to not even have to worry about making sure that it's being taken to do a communication just to the airport that says, okay, here's the CPI, you know, so the yearly CPI comes out in October and then we apply it in January. So, you know, it gives everybody a little bit of a buffer. And it's also way easier on our counting purposes because we can separate year to year. So the idea now is probably the first of January when we apply that CPI to go out and put that information, here's what the CPI is, you know, here's where it comes from. It's essentially, I think it's the bolder kind of area here is what the CPI figure is and just do like a quick little version of my airport updates, if you will, but essentially just focused on leasing and CPI or maybe, you know, just loop it into the January update to make it like a big bold front type, you know, the first thing on it, something like that. It's kind of what we're thinking or I'm thinking anyway, because it's just me. Yeah. Anyone else have anything at this point? All right, then we can move on to the Colorado airport owner. I'm sorry. I want to say. You get close. Colorado Airport Operators Association conference. So this is the called the winter conference held in January in Denver for mostly airport directors, CDOT and a bunch of hangar on consultants like me who are trying to sell things to airports. Yeah. So I've got a few items, but I'm happy to let you kick it off. Absolutely. And I was just about to mention that I hope you helped me because I, of course, my notes were from the stuff that I thought was interesting and I wanted to bring back, so I didn't write everything down. And I've got some of mine, so let's do it. So it's just some top highlights. The last few conferences has been very heavy on electrification and aviation have been very heavy on unleaded fuel. This conference, not a whole lot of new information, I would say, on those two areas. They kind of seem to echo, excuse me. Got a little ingestion there. They kind of echo what they said at the last summer conference. No huge updates. I think, if I recall correctly, there has now another unleaded aviation fuel that has been approved by the FAA and they just have to start now manufacturing it. So that's one highlight. Another highlight from that was there is now the goal. They want to be completely free of unleaded fuel. You correct me if I'm wrong here. Was it within 30 years or by 2030? Do you remember what they said? It depends on who you ask and what it should be. There is not a consensus timeline. So I mentioned that because I remember thinking, oh my gosh, they actually got a goal now. So that's great. Let's see. What else did I have? There is new guidance to the FAA about the use of land on airfields for non-aeronautical use. Essentially what they said is now anything that's non-aeronautical that is brought into the airport, the FAA has got to give their thumbs up too. Whereas before it wasn't necessarily the case. It sounds like there's not a whole lot of standard operating procedure for them to determine what is appropriate and not yet. They kind of said, hey, be patient with us. We don't know what we're doing. We just got this direction to make sure we approve everything. So I imagine initially that's going to be a pretty informal process and they'll kind of formalize that as things move forward. But not a whole lot known about that. Just a new point of information. There was a very good talk about leasing. Not that we have a whole lot to, we know we just went through doing new leases here and stuff like that. But good talks, good information came out of that. I took some notes for potential future stuff and kind of wrote it down. But that's it for that. I did invite our local representatives. I sent them all communications to try to give them. This is the winter Colorado Airport Operators Association's meeting and they call it the legislative session. They have a reception. The first night of the meeting where kind of the state representatives are supposed to show up. I did get one maybe from a rep, but then she didn't show up, unfortunately, but otherwise. At least they got an invite. And that's kind of the highlights that I have on mind for notes of substance anyway. Harrison, is there anything that you wanted to add? Yeah, I have just a couple things to add. But Mr. Salamantine, did you want to chime in here? Do you want to... I'll go quick if you don't mind. So similar topics, Levi, but there is legislation pending this year for it with the house that would have a leaded fuel bill that would also change the makeup of the CDOT aeronautics board. This has not been introduced. I checked this afternoon, but it is pending out there and certainly one that airports are very concerned about for timelines, regulations, tax impact, as well as introducing, let's say, airport skeptics to the CDOT aeronautics board. Nothing for us to do at this time because it is not introduced. The CAOA lobbyists are very much engaged, but I also know that City Council does take positions on legislation and as it is introduced, I would bring it back to us in the future to see if it is something we want to recommend to the Council, either supports or recommends different changes too. You do not have to be introduced to get to make a recommendation of standing on it. And just tell her that you would like to monitor it because it is probably not one she would normally monitor. I do not even know if I need to have a motion for that from the board, but I will reach out to Sandy and ask her to keep us in the loop. As it is introduced, bring it to this board and bring the text in. As I understand it, the text is not final yet. It is a little bit of a moving target right now, but it does something that I am watching for both this board and my professional interest as well. Yeah, that is fine. I am keeping an eye on it. I just want people to know that one. The other, I think just a couple of things. There was an NREL presentation, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, and they have done a last couple of presentations. But this is on a sustainable aviation. It was about electrification and charging infrastructure and it is a very cool study. They monitored out or modeled out training activity and what it would mean for battery charging and cycles and things like that. Their kind of next step is taking a handful of airports around the state and modeling it out to the grid impact. Levi and I chatted with them after the presentation given the sustainability resolution that we have passed, given the fact that we own the airport and the utility, that we really think we could be a good candidate there. There is kind of no follow up. I just want to bring it up as something that we certainly put in their court that we would like to be included in that list because we think it would be a really good a good test case for us. Do you send me a note about that? Yes, I will. And I've got two more here and I know I have two people waiting so I'm sorry, but I'll get you. I spoke informally to our engineers with Garver and with the disclaimer that I can't ask them to do anything officially or make recommendations to them and to the city employer overseeing them. I did talk to them about some of the things we've talked about on the board like Southside Development, like enabling projects and indicated a desire to have them at one of our meetings when we go into CIP planning particularly to talk through that. I've mentioned that to Levi. None of that is official because I can't officially do that but it is something I will ask Levi if he's willing to make that request to them directly when we're at an appropriate point for that. And then last thing, a little less related but I talked to David Julane this week because he's the CDOT aeronautics director. We happen to be on the same flight on Tuesday to the same event but he knows about the air show. He has it on the calendar and they are planning to attend and they're very excited that the air show is back so I just want to bring that up and then I'll go to questions. So, Mr. Talimatine first. Yeah, given the new guidance is that going to impact any of the current residents of the airport or lease holders of the airport or should I say not really? No, that's just moving forward retrospective. Yeah, just moving forward prior to us approving any non-aeronautical business is the FAA wants to also approve it. And at the same time they didn't say that there couldn't be aeronautical. I'm sure this came out of some case where something was approved on the airport that the FAA just wouldn't have approved so now they're giving everyone guidance to make sure that they tell them first, I'm sure. So you don't have any concerns there's no one who's leases are going to renew soon that may be impacted by that? I'm not too worried about it. I mean, I can't think of any huge red flags and again, you know, just to reiterate, they don't say that you can't have, you know non-aeronautical use, they just want to know about it. So I'm sure someone was probably abusing the privilege out there and, you know, like using 20 banks of rows of hangers or something like that. That's probably what was going on. Thank you. Mr. Schuch. Yeah, back to the proposed legislation that's going to be coming out. I got an email from the National EAA Association and AOPA is going to be in the fight. EAA is going to be in the fight. So we're going to have a lot of I think help with some of these large organizations. Yeah, and I'm you know, I think there was you know, obviously this is airport operators and kind of their organization talking about the airport impact. So, you know, a different impact then to EAA. But there was a rep from NBAA there, who was definitely suggesting they were heavily involved in watching this as well. So they're very there's a lot of interest in this. You know, I think what and I forgot my summary that I have on my desk that I meant to bring that described this. But it is about timelines for phasing out leaded fuel, what it means in the state. There are definitely some tax impacts associated with it. Potential subsidies, potential no subsidies and then adding new members to the C.A.A. export. So kind of a whole bunch wrapped together. It was if I understand it as a representative, Kyle Brown, who is I want to say like Arvato, Westminster, Golden kind of area. That's pushing it. Louisville. Thank you. Sorry. I have him very well. And so, you know, this definitely ties in with a lot of the Rocky Mountain Metro airport issues as well. So, any other comments, thoughts, questions on that. I'm going to, I will email Sandy just so she's aware. Marcia, I will send you this stuff on the NREL presentation. And, you know, I appreciate the opportunity just to talk about this. I'm lucky my job sends me and so it's kind of nice that I can bring it back to this context since that's not really why I'm there. I'm there to try to shield consultants. So, thank you for letting me use, you take advantage of that. Action items. Longmont Aviation Day. So, in association with our air show and Expo, Melinda asked that we add an action item to ask the city council to issue a proclamation designating September 14th, 2024, the date of the air show as Longmont Aviation Day. You have in front of you a draft proclamation that I put together about 90 minutes ago and it probably has typos and it is very much a draft but I wanted to get it out there for people to think through if we like this or want to tweak it in real time to kind of get ahead of this and vote on making the request to council that they approve this closer in. I'll read it since it wasn't in the packet since it didn't exist until a couple hours ago but this is a proclamation designating September 14th, 2024 as Longmont Aviation Day in Longmont, Colorado. Whereas the Vance brand municipal airport has served the community since 1945 and whereas the Vance brand municipal airport supports 490 jobs, $24.1 million in payroll and $68.04 million in business revenues and whereas the airport is the base for over 200 aircraft and supports more than 90,000 operations annually and whereas the Vance brand municipal airport will be home to an airshow and expo on September 14th, 2024 and whereas the airshow and expo carries the theme of the future of aviation to inspire future generation of aviators and showcase innovations such as aircraft electrification and alternative fuels and whereas the airport and expo is open to the entire community to experience the Vance brand municipal airport and to encourage young aviators. Now therefore, I, Joan Pack, the authority vested in me and the city council in the city of Longmont to hear by proclaim September 14th, 2024 as Longmont Aviation Day in Longmont and I encourage all citizens to attend the airshow and expo at Vance brand municipal airport to celebrate the future of aviation and be inspired by the new innovation and career opportunities. I will note I took this as from a different day proclamation and just tried to tweak it so tried to highlight a little bit what's going on the community and the expo but I have zero pride of authorship and would really love someone to pick this apart if you have comments. Mr. Dean The one thing I can see is usually every year when I am past there's always been like a different theme and so I don't know if we want to lock in the future of aviation necessarily as like it's 100% because I mean every year I've been trying to find like a different theme or something that sort of flows so it might be good to have like a different version of aviation or other possibilities of like different themes. To my understanding from Melinda please correct me is that is the theme That's this year. And this is just for this year. It's just a one time thing for this year. Any other comments, questions revisions would anyone like to make a motion suggesting that the board from council Vice Chair Jordan I move that we take your draft and move forward to council with it. Is there a second? Oh second. Move and second at any discussion. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Alright so I will take this put a recommendation to council and leave I don't know who that's going to move through City Clerk or somebody but we'll figure out how to get that out into council. Yes please. Council Member Martin. There is a form on the city website so request a proclamation you can enter it all in there and then you follow up with Don Quintana who takes care of routing it to the mayor and all such it would be polite to send an email to the mayor saying that you've done this and otherwise that's all it takes. I will submit this with the backing of the board that we've requested it as the board and I'll follow up with Don and the mayor. Thank you. I appreciate that. We'll make this happen. Thank you. We will move on then to final public invited to be heard. Does anyone wish to speak? Going once, going twice? Seeing no one I will close the final public invited to be heard and move on to board council or any comments from our board members to start with here. Possibly about the air show. Possibly about the interview that Linda you and I did with the Times Call that got us on the Times Call a couple weeks ago. Vice Chair Jordan let's go. Thank you. I have that someplace in here that the Times Call article so Harrison and I spoke to the Times Call Matt the reporter and he did a good job I've had a lot of people reach out after the article so that worked well and we're just glad to get some press and get it out there in the preliminary. I've got the poster that's always going to be in play with especially what's featured at the bottom, the format, things like that. We did select an air boss and so that's going to help us really start to coalesce the air show portion. I did meet the maintenance the A&P that handles the Soaring Beauty based on it BJC. You probably know him and he said I was out and somebody was saying airplanes and they were pointing at him so I went over and asked him what he did and he said oh yeah we're going to be at the show we're going to be in it. I'm like cool okay good to know so that was exciting so I've got him looped in now for all the air boss stuff. John Grunsfeld thanks to Marcia she sent him back around and he's given me quite a list of resources to check in for electric aircraft. I was just going to go to buy and start and end with them but he did give me Pipistrol and some of the other and I did see an article today about Pipistrol and that they're I think they have a real outreach effort so they may end up, I don't think we'll have all of them but we do we do have some good options so he gave me quite a big list and gave me permission to throw his name around use the astronaut card to see if we can get interest out here with him being at La Motte Malcolm met with Coloradans they're interested in doing the car show portion they're going to attend the next planning meeting on the 24th the next planning meeting is Saturday, February 24th in Levi's conference room at 9am at the airport I have two production companies now that I'm working with to get bids the logistics, the safety fencing the entrance heavy lifting on tables and chairs sanitation lots of different aspects one's bidding on the soundstage and then the other one he supports Triathlon so what he carries around is a little bit different so may be able to work with both of them but still getting them information and then they keep coming back to work on their bids my capstone student and intern is presenting at the Lunar New Year at Silver Creek High School also the 24th that afternoon so they're going to have a special aviation center at the Lunar New Year she's going to be doing origami paper airplanes paper airplane races some fun stuff like that and that's a big community event as well that Silver Creek hosts they'll be later that afternoon on the 24th she's recruiting students from all the grades to volunteer and then she's identified a 10th grade student that she's going to bring along through the process she's also bringing an 11th grader along because she's probably going to stay in state to go to school but she may be over in Gunna Center some place so she's been doing a lot of work and still really bridging with the innovation center to figure out what they're going to bring how big of a footprint so she came out to the airport with me on Saturday to land and take off in all that 300 foot ceiling she got a good ground overview of the airport as an aviation student as well and then showed her the logistics of how the air show flows where you come in what the diagonal taxiway is the ramp, the apron where everything gets laid out to give her her bearings that was part of her requirement for her project so her requirements work very well with our needs and that's been a real benefit and then again the article in the paper was really beneficial for us to get some more outreach have people reach out to us for volunteering and I have somebody that I'm going to recommend to Malcolm to help with the volunteering because he's taking more of the security side and the organization side and then you have the public and we might need to break that up because he's got a lot of hats that he's wearing but we're really the team is showing up doing their jobs and taking the responsibility and I feel like we're still bringing in a lot of resource possibilities at our meeting we've got Dagmar Kress on to fly in the air show portion at near charge to us and then bringing in electrification there's Glider we're talking about so I think we're really going to get a full spectrum and then we'll get some more birds and we'll get some of the other things that people expect to see and have a really robust program to show a kind of a kaleidoscope of things that happen in aviation and that's part of that future of aviation is to let the public know that it's not just getting at the oak and leaving the ground that there's hundreds of other jobs supporting what we do when we roll down that runway so it's feeling good it's looking good thank you Wanda awesome Mr. Minther yeah I was going to say add me to your list of warbird pilots I can fly my yeah I can fly the jet in it for you guys fantastic thank you other board member comments city council representative city staff Levi not too much I would just I know that I'm just going to ask real quick air bosses they're officially on board say we've identified our air boss he gave us his quote and it was yes very favorable and so I think it's a go and he's on the field he knows us and then the other air boss that I was referred to works with him and it just seemed to be the right choice do you know if they're coming to the meeting I don't so I need to ask our lead for that I was just going to check with that because that would be a great point to then start thinking about what paperwork we need to do and get the air boss kind of on board because that's kind of one of their their things to coordinate to so soon as soon as they are we'll have that discussion and he said he would do the FAA paperwork which is the waiver that's not as critical as the DOD which Matt's been working on and the air force base you know me was that submitted that was that was the one from Whiteman from the air force base I'm waiting to hear back so I did submit so you submitted that so I'm waiting to hear back I haven't heard anything yet so hopefully soon if not I'll reach out next couple of weeks if you haven't seen anything I wasn't sure from that email if you guys needed me to submit it or if you submitted it sounds like it's good it seemed like there were some questions on it they sent me some stuff but I mean other than that I feel everything out just let me know Mr. Dean did you have something else to ask is there anything we need for the if we have a car show portion or anything special for paperwork for that a short answer it's probably not I did have a specific conversation with the FAA about that I said hey we're going to have a car show too and they said well as long as it's not like it was part in order obviously a event in its own they said then you can probably just loop it into the same paperwork they said if it's going to be more than that then let us know so the way I've been kind of approaching that is we progress forward and we start to have a general idea of what that car show is going to be I was just going to reach back out to the FAA and say okay here's about what we're thinking and kind of at that point you know move forward okay perfect thank you I do have a vision and then the Airbus so I trust they'll judge they'll have final say on how that would work but it would be get the planes in the air for the opening close the field have the parade and 1-1 to 2-9 maybe on the taxiway and then come around and be static at the entrance and I think I'll have to address that in the ULPP as well so we'll get it covered there and then find out and also yeah I don't think the police will I don't think the traffic will be impacted with that but then it would be the FAA is that okay with them and drones remember what can we do with drones so we've got the the big hanger at elite the one that's storing aircraft and if they can fly them inside of there and that'll also be an excellent conversation have with the Airbus that's what they started with with the drone program and so it's been a big program for them I have a feeling that we'll probably be able to make that happen I know that we address a similar situation at BJC and it was a little harder to do it there but that was also a towered airport I think as a general aviation we'll probably have a little more flexibility but that's the conversation to be had moving forward and that's why I'm really excited to start talking to Airbus and stuff like that because now we can actually get the last call for anyone comments alright hearing none I will call our February 8th meeting adjourned thank you all very much