 Well, thank you very much and welcome. I'd like to begin the press conference by again thanking the governors and premiers for traveling to Vermont this week to attend the 42nd annual conference of the New England governors in Eastern Canadian premiers. For over four decades, our states and provinces have come together each year to strengthen our region for cooperation. Regardless of who is sitting, governor or premier, is whichever political party is in power or what international debate is unfolding. We come together to listen and talk about what we can do better as a region. We leave our borders, political parties, and differences behind when we attend the NEGECB conference and enter the sacred tradition of fostering coalitions, building relationships, and promoting civility. As our national leaders debate trade and other issues on the international stage, it's really important that we stay committed to bipartisanship and have civil discussions in order to achieve prosperity for all of us in the New England and Eastern Canadian region. Now I'd like to turn it over and welcome my fellow governors and premiers to say a word for a few words, starting with our co-chair, Premier Galant of New Brunswick. Thank you very much, Governor Scott. I'm very pleased to be here. I enjoyed our conversations with my colleagues, but I certainly want to make it clear that all New Brunswickers are still thinking of the community of Frederick, the Frederick Police Force, and the families of the victims of the shooting that happened just a few days ago. On behalf of all New Brunswickers, I wanna thank my colleagues here at this table, the governors and premiers and representatives for their thoughts and their condolences. We had a great meeting today. We discussed how it is important for us to collaborate on many issues whether it be on energy, climate change, and a very important issue that is certainly top of mind for us, trade. We very much enjoyed the leadership of Governor Scott. Not only did he do a great job in hosting us here, making sure we had productive conversations, and he also did a great job of demonstrating how we can work together to the benefit of the people we represent, and it's great to have a governor like him that is focused on making sure there are regional cooperation so we can grow the economy for the people of Vermont, and that we can work together to improve the quality of life of all the people in New England and in the Eastern Canadian provinces. With that said, I'll say just a quick few words in French if everybody wants to try to grab the translation. Merci beaucoup, Governor Scott, pour le beau travail qui a fait à quitter nos discussions aujourd'hui, nous avons eu une belle conversation concernant des sujets très important pour les Canadiens canadiens américains et américaines. Nous avons discuté entre le commerce international et le commerce, spécifiquement entre nos deux pays, et nous avons bien sûr discuté des sujets très important comme l'énergie et les changements climatiques. Et comment nous pouvons travailler ensemble pour combattre les changements climatiques et aussi sur des possibilités dans le secteur d'énergie. Alors encore une fois, je vais remercier le goulain d'âme pour son leadership et pour tous les organisataires et organisatrices pour le beau travail qui a été fait pour nous accueillir ici. Et on a bien hâte de vous accueillir en 2019 au Nouveau-Brentoie. So now here from Premier McLaughlin. Good afternoon. First, I want to thank Governor Scott and his team and the people of Vermont for the hospitality over the past two days and for a fine substantive program around the themes of energy, environment and trade to acknowledge as the jurisdiction that hosted the initial conference in 1973 of the government governors and these Canadian brainers that this organization this gathering continues to be an important annual and then between meetings occasion to build substantive responses and collaboration among our 11 jurisdictions and I believe it's more important and evident in our discussions today. That it's more important than ever that there be effective regional and subnational collaboration on important issues that matter to our citizens and to our continued prosperity and indeed to respond to the important issues of environment and energy that we continue to deal with together. Thank you. Next to be Governor Baker. Well, thank you very much and I'll just echo the previous speaker's appreciation for the work in the hospitality that was demonstrated by Governor Scott and his team as part of this conference and I would just say that I've gotten four of these now and I really appreciate and hosted one of them and I really appreciate the quality of the dialogue between and among both the governors and our colleagues to the north on so many issues that we share common interests in and whether you're talking about what we talked about today which was storage and electric vehicles and trade and a variety of other conversations where you're talking about a whole bunch of other things that we've discussed over the past four years. I always learned something at these events. I always learned something that I can take back and share with my own team and I consider it to be both a learning experience but also a chance to continue to build on relationships that have served all of us very well for a very long period of time and serve the people that we seek to represent every day as well. So this for me is always a worthwhile endeavor but please do about a chance to participate and where you get again. First I'd like to thank Governor Scott Phil. Thanks for you and your staff. It was wonderful hospitality and organization. Je veux faire le soutenir remarque en français. Bien sûr, cette conférence est importante pour le Québec en groupe des premiers de l'Université Canada des Gouverteurs de l'Université de l'Angleterre qui en sort ensemble forme un groupe économique très fort et dont la cohésion était essentielle et particulièrement, c'est vraiment de tension sur le plan des échanges conventionaux. Rapidement, trois éléments de la région restent vraiment d'esprit d'avoir édition sur l'énergie, l'énergie du Québec, l'énergie propre du Québec, les droits électricités de la marque cruciale non seulement pour nous mais pour tous nos voisins et on a augmenté, il faut le savoir, d'environ 35% de nos exportations de l'électricité de la Bibliothécoise et un autre succès, naissant bien sûr avec le message du service. La transition énergétique et les véhicules électriques du Québec ayant adopté de voies zéro émissions de le sol état d'Amérique du Nord l'avoir fait avec la Californie distribue ses bombes électriques de plus en plus rapidement et il faut dire que les corridors de recharge like the one we have with Vermont is corridors of charging stations c'est venu, c'est venu de conférences comme celle-ci, de réunions, de discussions et ça va s'étendre, je vais pas avec d'autres études nouvelles en plateau. Et enfin sur le débréchange, je vais saluer la présente de l'embauchant avec nous qui a participé au panel. Je veux juste attirer l'attention de mes compatriotes qui regardent Québécois sur deux éléments sur lesquels ils nous insistant tout le temps, toujours. D'avoir bien sûr l'agriculture, ils défendent ferme et sans compromis de la gestion de l'offre au Québec pour nos producteurs d'études ce qui a été encore le cas aujourd'hui et l'exception culturelle qui pour le Québec prend une atteinte toute en fait particulière et essentielle. So on these words, thanks for this very successful conference. We've achieved a lot of things that will matter for citizens that we represent and I look forward to our next conference. Thank you. It's great to be with all of you and I want to thank our Governor Scott and go on to America. I want to thank you for the great work that you've done in putting this meeting together. I have to say that this is my eighth and final as a sitting governor and I'll always look forward to this event as a celebration of how close we are, how much we agree on and how closely we can continue to work together regardless of any political movement present in many of our countries at any given time. And today's discussion on energy you know, electric vehicles and NAFTA trade as well as the work that we had done or I should say our staff had done prior to our getting here and on resolutions is very, very important to celebrate this event on an ongoing basis to make sure that our little part of the world, our eastern provinces and New England continue to work together and quite frankly lead internationally in our own home countries. Thank you. Well thank you and thank you to Governor Scott and as we mentioned already by every speaker if you want to thank you for the work that you have done and your organizers on what has been might need to be a very successful round of the meetings again this year and to Premier Golanth a friend of mine that I get a chance to meet more often but serving a thousand careers are with you and the people in New Brunswick that you deal with the current situation and next year we look forward to being in New Brunswick in St. John with this event that you will host as you co-host this year make sure you will host the event 42 years is a long time and this being the 42nd Conference of New England Governors and East Coast Premiers I think really what it speaks to is the success that we should never take for granted because it's a relationship but I know this is my third one and I see many familiar faces and I look forward to coming back next year because it is a relationship that is important for all of us and as Governor Maloya just said I think many people no matter where you go can get a lesson from the relationship that you see at this table that regardless of political strikes regardless of your state or your province we find a way at this table to set an example in leadership that others could follow it's been my third year and the opportunity in each of those years to find myself sitting at a table with Governor Maloya I know I will miss his experience and I wish him all the best into the future so if it's climate change if it's the environment if it's about energy if it's about important discussions on free trade we come out of this stronger because we find a way and we take the time to sit at meetings and network with people like you in this room and those of us at this table so it is my privilege to be here representing the province of Newfoundland the Lavador province that is that a strong history and a strong partnership with Americans and we look forward to growing that and to growing those partnerships and relationships and should never take those relationships for granted they are important to us and the messages that we can send to others in the world so thank you very much for this opportunity we have Minister McCullen representing Nova Scotia thank you and good afternoon everyone first and foremost to Phil and Brian I want to say thanks as well for your hospitality Phil in your home state you did a remarkable job showcasing all that your home has to offer so well we certainly appreciate that and for Brian given the circumstances and the emotions you've been dealing with on behalf of your citizens in the Brunswick it's tremendous that you're here to share your time with us so we appreciate having you here for me I'm very proud to be representing my home province of Nova Scotia and Premier Stephen Neal this is an opportunity for me to share in this particular conference and understand how we move forward together and how the bones of that are actually structured I know that the Premier is a very strong advocate he's grouped this table and the partnerships that we have the Atlantic provinces quite frankly and the New England states are stronger together so what we've learned today around trade, energy, environmental issues and many things we talked about that weren't part of the formal program is that we have shared interest we have you think of energy and how our shared cooperation is important for our economic prosperity and for the security of our citizens and that's just one example of many we have challenges and opportunities that we deal with together and although the negotiations as an example are nation to nation it's good to know that from a regional perspective we're on the same page and I think that what this reaffirms the energy, ECP reaffirms that the relationships are strong that the interests are common and that anything we do we can move together collectively with a shared voice and that's critical and I think that outside of the policy formation the support we give each other as governments and states and provinces it's about people and when you network and connect with people the way that we do at the staff and the representative level it's critical moving forward so knowing that we're cohesive or a unit is important given particularly times now surrounding things like trade so I'm happy to be here on behalf of the premier about the last couple days Commissioner Caswell representing New Hampshire thank you and again I'd like to echo a thank you Governor Scott for his hospitality here in the last couple of days it's been an honor for me to be here as part of you know on behalf of Governor Suninen representing the state of New Hampshire and getting an opportunity for a series of very very successful meetings and opportunities for new and expanding relationships in the face of what is really a long history that is literally burned into the landscape of our states and our provinces I'm often reminded of the story that in New Hampshire we say you can't get there from here and that's because all the roads run north and south and there's a good long reason for that that I think we've had an opportunity to demonstrate today about the relationship between my state and other new states and our friends in the eastern provinces so thank you Questions from the press I'm asking you to line up behind one of these two microphones and please state your publication and your name from the question Véronique Prince from Radio-Canada, CBC Mr. Pouya, I would like to know did you make an agreement or did you have discussions to know what you could do if the agreement of free trade was not renewed? Are there other options? In fact, the main discussion is that we don't have a person meeting a governor who is not favorable to the reconstruction of the agreement of free trade it's obvious that 9 million Americans need this agreement to have a free trade to have a good job on the other side I think everyone is on the way to renew this electronic trade it's an example of that but there are some elements I mentioned earlier but I think everyone is working in order to succeed in renewing the agreement the best plan is to renew the agreement we can't renew the agreement it's an extraordinary success for everyone Could you repeat that in English? We were working on a scenario failure is not an option to use a very famous cliché there are too many people whose lifeline depended us to let it go and what's reassuring is that we still have to meet one governor an important figure in different states that does not support the renewal of NAFTA but it needs to be modernized at the time it was signed for the first time there was no such thing as e-commerce that's one example among others but we are working on a success scenario not a failure scenario Can I ask another question? Two governors, Baker and Scott please if you could both answer the question I'm not going to answer in English Yes, of course in English it's okay it's Donald Trump putting a decade's long relationship with your neighbors at risk I think Canada is probably not our largest trading partner one of our two largest trading partners around time and that covers a wide variety of industries and there's also a big relationship that exists in research and in biotechnology and pharmacy and a whole bunch of other spaces and education as well I'm with my colleague to my left here which is I do believe that after 25 years plus or minus it probably does make sense to renew the relationship between Canada, the US and Mexico and based on a lot of the conversations we had with our colleagues both from the US and from Canada over the course of the past two days I feel pretty positive that that renewal will in fact take place but it's very important to us Yeah, NAFTA is very important to us Canada is our largest trading partner we don't just sell we don't just visit we actually build things together and that's really important and we have a great relationship it's a cultural tie as well with a border that we share and having said that we believe that that commerce heads will prevail that we'll have an agreement there's too many states that count on a Canadian trade NAFTA is important not just to us but to the entire country I would say that the majority of states benefit from trade with Canada in particular so this is too important to all of us we need each other and I'm sure that we'll come to agreement Will you mind if I add to that and thank Governor Scott for continuing this year program that we commenced initiated last year in Prince Edward Island of a business to business to our meetings and that was taken up very well by businesses on both sides of the border last year and again this year I like to say first time an experiment, second time a tradition so we now have a tradition that's attached to these meetings a very important one and one that demonstrates in the enthusiasm of the parties that took part that participated from all of our jurisdictions that we have over a period of time that built sort of prosperity together and that continues I've been David WCAX everyone here collectively said you're here coming out stronger but is there a way to measure that progress in the long term after this meeting and for anyone Governor Scott I can take a track of that first of all we just look at the traffic between and I'm talking about the commercial traffic between Canada and Massachusetts it basically ticks up and I don't mean just as a result of this I mean it's a relationship that's continued to grow as Governor Scott said in both directions the other thing I would point out is we've been pursuing a series of initiatives to reduce our carbon footprint of Massachusetts and at the same time ensure that our our residents have a competitively priced energy set of solutions for them and that our businesses do as well and some of the earliest conversations associated with that direction that we've been pursuing started at one of these meetings in 2015 and we worked with our colleagues in our state legislature to develop a pretty comprehensive approach to a series of initiatives around this put out competitive procurements on it and and one of the winners of that particular procurement was in fact a bit that we got from HydroPoVac and it involves a pretty solid relationship with the state of Maine as well and will help the region deal with a number of issues associated with climate change and environmental policy and energy policy and do so in a way that enhances our state and I would argue our region's economic competitiveness and there's real work that comes out of this I can answer as well I think it is measurable when you have a million jobs in New England that are attributed to this Canadian trade so that can be measured we do to keep track of of how much we sell we keep track of how much tourism we have into the state and certainly when you combine New England and the eastern Canadian provinces together we're the 14th largest economy in the world just behind South Korea just ahead of Australia so that makes us a powerhouse in some respects so it's measurable I believe that we can build upon that and it will become even more prosperous as a result if I just may add I think that if we ever needed organizations like the NEGECP it's now rhetoric when it comes to trade on both sides of our border and to have governments and premiers sitting at the same table talking about how robust trade between Canada and the US between New England and the eastern Canadian provinces is helping create jobs for people on both sides of the border it's helping workers, it's keeping costs lower for families and it's helping our economies I think that goes a long way and obviously there's a track record of success when you look at traffic as Governor Baker said in terms of the economic ties between our two regions but when we have some of the rhetoric that's happening I think it's all that much more important for organizations like this one to get together to stand side by side or in this case I suppose sit side by side at this table and talk about the benefits of trade between our two countries and I just want to sort of hint to the last question as well I think it's important for us to say for me to say anyways that the protectionist policies and some of the unfair and unwarranted terrorists such as the terrorists on the software number coming from Ebrunswick is hurting workers, families and the economies on both sides of the border now modernizing NAFTA is something that many have made the point that it can be a good thing we had great panelists today that talked about some of the challenges maybe opportunities moving forward but I think one thing is clear everybody at this table recognizes how benefiting and all of the citizens that we represent are benefiting from the fact that we have robust trade in our region and not only when it comes to trade are we collaborating and cooperating when it comes to climate change, when it comes to energy and many other important factors so I feel like these meetings are always productive but all that much more important nowadays with some of the rhetoric that we're hearing let me just join in for one moment I think it's important to know that real damage is being done with the terrorists that are currently in place and I don't think we should dance around that we have an American manufacturer meet with us today in an open session and tell the plight of the effects of the terror on steel, on his business on an international basis and making his business substantially less competitive raising costs substantially and although I think there was an anticipation that this would go on for a little while it's going on longer than anyone might have reasonably predicted a dispute between two good friends would last and so I think that it was a stark reminder at least on the American side that we are tied together our economies are in many ways interchangeable cars are built on both sides and parts go back and forth the same thing is true in my own state with respect to jet engines and other aerospace equipment we're the third most concentrated state in the United States this is having a real impact and the sooner it's over the better for all of us it is measurable today in fact the telling of the story of having to buy alternative or alternatively source steel from another country and how much more expensive it's getting as a result of the dispute that we're having on our border it makes no sense this needs to be solved rapidly and I don't know a governor who doesn't believe that at least a governor that is close to the Canadian border or for that matter the Mexican border and I have a WAMC North East Public Radio this kind of flows in with what you were just talking about with the NAFTA and particularly with the tariffs have you been working whether it's at this conference or outside of this conference to try to come up with any strategies to work around the tariffs whether it's the state and provincial governments or with businesses to work around them or is there any way to do that collectively we've raised our voice and not just here we've been doing this for some period of time and if there's any movement and the president has recently indicated that perhaps there's movement with respect to Mexico and that perhaps there's a deadline or desire to get something done I have to believe that that is a part America's governor stepping forward and saying that this is not making sense when you look at the price of certain commodities in the United States and the impact of manufacturing that's playing out or if you look at what's happening in various parts of the agricultural industry including products that we both make in our countries but are being impacted on an international price basis because of the fears this is important work and I think we've done that and I think every governor is pledged to do what they can and I think every premier is pledged to do what they can to help resolve this issue which I think is more about understanding the cross-border implications than anything else but no I'm not going to sneak anything in maybe I'd like to add something here we're not facing a situation where we're dealing with tariffs and counter tariffs it's to nobody's advantage everybody's going to lose and if the situation gets prolonged what we are seeing now on our side of the border is people talking about reorganizing supply lines supply chains east west which is not going to be good as well for both sides of the border so there's another reason why we should aim for rapid settlement on these tariffs I'm anxious to be to the wall Jonathan we heard today Prime Minister to the UN we either I do support for supply management I also heard a plea for Canada to start negotiating during one of the sessions where can Canada compromise in your opinion maybe I could start because this is one of my favorite subjects as we all know we have to recognize that both countries support their agriculture in different ways but they do support their agriculture it's not going to change one way that we use to do this is to have the supply management system for roughly 40% of Quebec's agriculture the US on the other side there's a true farm bills subsidies of various kinds so it's simply not true that the US agriculture is a free market situation simply not true both countries have a right and should have the capacity to orient their agriculture the way they want the way their citizens want it to be for us in Quebec it's important to keep agriculture at the side of the family make sure that the children can take over and continue the farm it doesn't become huge industrial installations that remains at the human scale in communities I think it's a valid choice some may not agree with it but that's our choice to defend supply management everywhere it is extremely important for the lives of our farming families if I may follow on that trade discussions are not a solution to overproduction and that's exactly what is the situation when it comes in the United States and in other parts of the world when it comes to dairy in Canada we have supply management which ensures that we consume what we produce the actual facts are that the United States sells about five and a half times as much dairy product into Canada as we export to the United States so there's no trade in balance but it's certainly not one that warrants the kind of solutions that some may think which would be to challenge the approach that we have in Canada ultimately farmers have to make a living and that is a big challenge farmers work hard they make investments they are innovative when it comes to their products we're proud of what our dairy farmers in my province and in Canada do in that regard in a way that's competitive internationally frankly to come to your question where is the area where we can achieve the most I would say most people familiar with the negotiations would say to keep working on the auto aspect in a trilateral way and continue to build some shared cluster in the alumni free countries I'll put it a different way what we're doing in agriculture in these trade disputes is the rough equipment of saying we're going to shoot our dog it doesn't make any sense it's tremendously dangerous and I will say on the dairy side I can assure you that American policy is not working for Connecticut dairies today and hasn't for a very long time and by frankly my compliments to our Canadian counterparts for the protection of family farms I'm running wonderfully from channel 5 news out around the temperament this might sound a bit repetitive but gentlemen regarding tariffs there is one takeaway that you will come from what would you share with Prime Minister Trudeau or President Trump about the tariffs what do you want these gentlemen to know from what you gentlemen have learned today so my one takeaway would be that the Mexican US Canadian trading block as a participant on the global stage where there are many other issues that we would like to engage in a trade discussion about is far more influential and powerful together than it is apart and I would hope that people would recognize and understand that renewing the current agreement among these three players will make them all better among themselves but also make them a much more significant and important player in global trade discussions and I don't think that should be lost I don't believe trade wars work I think it leads to isolation amongst our countries and especially the way it's being done right now in the retaliation on both sides obviously leads to relationship damage that's nothing you can fix in a matter of a couple of years relationships are difficult you can't just say you want to have a good relationship you have to work at it and we have to work at this one so when someone has to lose in some negotiation then it leads to compromise with the relationship in general so I don't believe this works I'll just simply add my words are at the end really that they have an approach where it's a win-win-win and that they're not looking for somebody to lose in this and that's how we built it over the last few decades that's why it's such a success there are sure or some opportunities for tweaks and some modernization but ultimately it has been a win-win-win and I think having that added to this crucial for us to continue the prosperity that we're creating together Spencer Conwin the local ABC and Fox affiliate folks outside demonstrating who believe that the leaders of this region are not doing enough to curb climate change I guess what are your thoughts on that belief and what is being done in this region let me take my first I'll take a first cross this group the New England governors was actually one of the first collectivities certainly one of the first international collectivities in the world to make commitments on greenhouse gas reduction going back to the year 2000 and we have had since 2015 a commitment to reduce our emissions by 35-45% of our of our 1990 base by 2030 now that is actually a superior commitment hours ago and we each time we get together at times collaborate work for renewable solutions work for a greater and efficient integration of our production usage and transmission and I don't think you'll find very many places in the world where you have that kind of multi-jurisdictional cross-border collaboration and where everyone for starters is looking for a solution each of our jurisdictions is making real headway and of course we realize there's more to do and there's more that can be done together I just simply say we're not doing enough we're just doing more than anyone else very good thank you Canada I just said that this question is for Governor Baker today yesterday I've heard from your colleagues some of them at the conference talk about President Trump's negotiation approach and his negotiation style whether it's sort of tweets or at least telling the message that he's sending the candidate and their allies but most of the candidates are talking about after a bit and the question is what do you think of President Trump's approach his negotiation style and his approach to these negotiations I guess what I would say is that a negotiation always has ups and downs along the way I very rarely have ever been involved in any negotiation on anything that meant anything that didn't have ups and downs and at some point maybe even people walking away from the table and then finding a way back to it the ultimate measure of any negotiation is the end and with respect to this one in particular as I said earlier 25 years of no review and renewal was probably long enough and it's my hope and my expectation that in the end cooler heads are going to prevail on this and that there will be a positive result and I say that because I think it works for all three countries to end up with a renewed agreement on this not just in terms of their relationships with each other but in terms of their larger relationships with the rest of the world and I think that's something that the White House and this country certainly understands and gets and I certainly got that message from the conversation we had with some of the folks from both sides who talked to us last night and just a follow up Governor Baker and please correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like you might be a little bit apart from the other from your colleagues at the table when the question was asked about terrorists I kind of got the impression that people were against them and they say well if it comes to a better deal then they're a good thing did you see yourself a little bit apart from your colleagues? No I think what I was saying something more along the lines of what the premier here was saying which is that everybody has a variety of ways in which they support industries in their country and that support can translate into a variety of strategies and approaches and I think in the end what people ought to see is whatever type of deal makes it possible for the players who are involved in it to be as successful as possible but let's face it there are all sorts of things that countries do to promote their own interests and their own industries depending upon the circumstances the size of the industry the role it plays in their local economy or their global economy and that's not by the way that's what's going on for several hundred thousand years I think I mean that's not a new a new notion I think in this particular case it's important that people recognize that we have a lot to gain globally by being smart about how we relate to each other can I ask a governor Malloy a question? We just have time for maybe one more question so I just want to allow John and if we have another minute John Gillman from our public radio I just wanted to circle back to the question that our colleague from the CDC asked which is has the president threatened a relationship that has benefited both our countries for generations economically in times of war and peace has he threatened that? I'd say from our point of view we would make it more fragile we've been allies, we've been neighbors we fought wars together our kids recently were fighting against terrorism together we didn't expect that type of relationship but we were friends now I make a difference between this and what I see here around the table anyway when I go around the states and meet with my colleague governors and mayors of God she is it's always very positive this is something that we should you know what comes out of the White House is that the whole of the United States of America it's a great country we admire America and Americans but we've always been friends and allies and we really wanted to be that way again stay that way rather Governor I just wanted to ask you what do you think is the biggest obstacle to a successfully negotiated and after deal? you said there was only a minute left I think that there has to be a desire to get an agreement so I'll go back I'll answer both of these questions in the absence of strengthening a relationship you are weakening a relationship and of course our relationship has been weaker and of course we should not speak to our counterparts as premiers or the head of federal governments the way that those conversations have played themselves out by tweet it makes no sense at all it is at best childish and it should stop and I think that the danger to answer your question is that the things that have been said and the things that have been done pose a real threat to a longstanding and important relationship $730 billion of cross-border cooperation is too important to allow personalities are relatively small differences to divide us and so I think we have to be serious about who we are what that relationship is how important it is and make progress and I couldn't agree more that this really does need to be a win-win so you ask what's the biggest problem is that I don't think everyone believes in a win-win and unfortunately I think that's on the American part