 Let me ask you, why do you think that so many people are afraid of Donald Trump? Why do I think so many people are afraid of Donald Trump? Like what do you think that says? Like I don't think enough people are afraid of Donald Trump. Everybody should be afraid of Donald Trump. Well the people who fear him, you know, on the Republican side or feel paralyzed by him in a sense. That's kind of the sense that I get from some people. They don't know how to oppose him. Fear him in that sense. Yeah, I think they, I think they, I think it's two things, at least two things. But one is, look, he's captured the base of the Republican Party. He has them. He has them in his grasp. Everybody out there says, oh no, they don't like Donald Trump. They, you know, but he's what there is and he's better than Biden. But everybody loves Donald Trump. I mean, these people adore him. They follow him. They'll do anything he says. They are completely personality, worship his personality. They worship him. You know, it was stunning. And I remember being stunned at the time when he said it, when he said he could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and it wouldn't affect his campaign. I thought this is nuts. Nobody can take this seriously. And he's right. He could have shot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and he still would have been elected in in 2016 and he'd still be the presumptive nominee of the Republican Party right now. So I think one is that he, in whatever way he has, there is a longing among certain Americans for a leader who just smash her stuff that they're angry they're upset. They're unhappy with everything with with the way politics has been done forever. They're unhappy with America than happy with the direction. And they want somebody to lead them and part of that leading is somebody with authoritarian tendencies and part of that leading is to smash stuff and he said, and other Republicans are just afraid to alienate those alienate those people. They're just scared of them because it's, I don't know, I think it's a half of the Republican Party is that way or maybe, maybe it's 40%, but it's, it is a significant portion and you probably can't win the nomination. It's completely alien and it's interesting that the Santas strategy is to double up on those people that is to double up on the issues that the he thinks attract them to Donald Trump that is the cultural issues and the go against the left at all costs kind of issues and so building up on those to try to attract them to him. I actually think that strategy is going to backfire because it's not that it's it's actually Trump's personality. It's actually is disregard for everything and is kind of is kind of nihilistic personality. That's actually what attracts them to him. And the Santas taking on Trump's policies is, you know as a failure actually got contacted today by somebody who's meeting the Santas. Next week, right. And he said okay you're on. What are your beefs with the Santas what can I say to him, right. And I said, look, it's basically, it's just start with how much time do you have. And it's short obviously because he's, but you know he's he's going to have a long term he's going to have as much time as he wants with the Santas because he's, he's money so the Santas give him time. And he basically said if I wrote something up you would hand it to the Santas. So, you know, so basically he's I, let me see if I can find the text, but basically what I said was, you know, they are there are three things, the three things that I think you need to communicate to the Santas. Where is this. Yeah, I mean one, that he's spending way too much time and energy and cultural issues, and sadly using the power of the state to address them, which I think is damaging actually four issues. Second is, I see no free market Liberty vision coming from him. And third is is alienating people who who who he will need in order to win a general election, primarily women in independence is alienating them completely by for example signing a six week ban on abortion which he didn't need to do. You know, there was already a 13 or 14 week ban in Florida. So he'd already established his anti-abortion credentials. He didn't need that I don't think to win the nomination and the added to that, that what that what's really missing in American politics today. And this is true in the American side on the Republican side, although I think Nikki Haley has a little bit of this and Rama Swami the Indian businessman has a little bit of this. But that is what's really missing is a positive inspiring Reagan like vision for the country. And he basically wrote back and he said he agrees with all of that. But he said there's one more thing which is implicit in what I wrote but that he would add that he's going to go after the Santas for. And that's his tyranny over corporations, which again was something Trump did. If you remember calling up businessmen telling you not to move their factories to Mexico and stuff. The Santas is doubling up on it and so he's doubling up on everything that Trump is and I think I think I think that's a losing strategy for him. I think what this field needs is a articulate prominent Republican with name recognition which unfortunately right now I think the one, maybe Yonkins and Virginia can do this, or camp from Georgia, who actually articulates a positive vision, kind of a shining city on the hill vision of America, which can get the base somehow distracted from Trump, and it can get independence and others voting for him. So what was your question I can't remember the question I've rambled on. Why the fate of Trump so one is that the base is just enamored with in the base just loves him. And the second is, you know the Trump. Well, the Trump is brutal. I mean he's brutal. He goes after you goes after you personally he has no problem, talking about how you, you know what your wife did, or what you how you, how you look, or your wife looks or what your father might have done it might not have done. He has zero problem. More than any other human being I know he has zero problem lying. That is to him lying is just, it doesn't matter it's it's a he's a he's a pure sample of pragmatism right whatever it takes to get to the end result. That's okay the means absolutely justify the end justifies the means. Yeah, so he's willing to lie so if you go up against him, and you have anything in your closet or even if you don't I don't know if you saw yesterday. You read some of the stuff that Trump is putting out about the Santas. It's just, it's just ludicrous but it's it's over the top in terms of how pathetic the Santas is in running Florida. This is a guy just one reelection by a massive margin and it doesn't matter Trump will lie. He knows that if you lie over and over and over and over and over again people forget what the truth is and all they remember is a lie. And he has that down to an odd so people are afraid to piss him off they're afraid of, of making him angry and then the third. What would you, you said. My third point is they don't have a positive strategy. That is you have to have an alternative Trump you have to have something you can say something you can stand up to him about something you can put him down on and you can get to his level by attacking him personally but that's not going to win you he's probably better at it than anybody else in New York he knows how to do that. So you have to have something to, to, to bounce to distract from the negativity. And I don't think these candidates know how to do that or know what that content would be. That's why I said you need somebody with an absolutely positive perspective and somebody who has the attitude of and really projects this attitude. Look, Trump is an idiot and Trump is a loser. Why anybody would vote for him, you know, I understand why you would vote for him over Biden, but now you have a real option. I'm not going to address every stupid thing he says because he's an idiot and he's a loser he's lost. So we don't need this but here's my positive vision here's here's the good stuff and it doesn't that he ignores Trump, but he shows contempt for Trump, while, you know, showing some modicum of respect for the people other than Trump and the Santas instead of doing that is doubling up on Trump's agenda with I think is a huge mistake. I mean, even if you could be Trump in a primary camp, I'm not sure he can win in a general election because of what he's done. I mean, really most of Americans want a president who obsesses about Disney. I hate Disney Disney's the place we all take our kids to I mean, really, I would serve him right if Disney and I know they can't really do this but if Disney had any ability to move out of that state. Exactly. And look, and most Americans, even most Republicans don't care that much about Disney's position on gays. So they have a pride parade in California so don't go that day. But are you going to give up Mickey Mouse because you upset because Disney did a pride parade. I mean it is absolutely insane and stupid. It's also it's also so vile that I mean didn't he threaten to put some very prison only thing around the prison prison, but think of the the the ire towards such a positive American, you know, stalwart corporation. Once you woke, you descend into the worst rung of hell and then anything that's done to you is permissible. I mean, if somebody went in and shot up Disney I'm sure some of these people would support it because Disney's woke and therefore it's okay to beat them up and destroy them and do Yeah, this is the mentality of so many people now that that you know everything's fair game. Everything's fair game in the cultural battle. So you would go after him. It both. Okay, so you're saying to laugh at him I would make fun item. I chose to offer the positive vision both mean if I would dissent us now I'd say really I mean far does this bad state I mean look at our record look at what we've done. I want to bring this to the whole America. I want to liberate the US economy. I want to make the US economy. Number one in the economic freedom index. I want to make this a robust dynamic exciting economy like America's always been. Donald Trump didn't achieve that in four years and then he lost. Yeah, but you know losers should be put to the side let's forget about them. Let's focus on winning and being successful in the future. I think it does reveal something brittle about the psyche of a lot of Americans that all he has to do is like give you a negative moniker. Yeah, and people all of a sudden they're like, Oh, I can't support that person because they're there, they're there. That's embarrassing and it's like, it's so immature, you know, this is why I'm scared of Trump now I'm not scared of Trump I'm scared of what Trump has shown us about the American people. What Trump has shown us about the American people is that they are ready for an authoritarian that it's just a matter of combining the right elements but they're ready to just accept anything that that some guy says that they'll jump on his bandwagon they'll support him they'll support him. Nothing matters and they are they are willing to personality you know this this idea personality worship they jump on that bandwagon and they're willing in the name of hate. Hate of the left to abandon all their previous express values and jump and support a guy, no matter what and that that's scary. You know, if I'm not suggesting a parallel between Trump and Hitler, but if you want to see that that's the definition of how people become from Liberty loving. Look at the tea party Liberty loving limited government all that to whatever he says is true. He could shoot somebody in the middle of Fifth Avenue and I'll still support him authoritarian attitude you're seeing it it's happening right in front of us we're seeing it and and my fear is not now but as this mentality gets worse that there is a Hitler down the road for America you know some kind of equivalent to that down the road, who could could could jump in here. Adam had his hand up so I'll go to Adam and then we'll go to Ian. I wouldn't even mention Hitler, but Trump, I think, is the American pudding. I think he definitely like to be he'd like to be a Putin or bun. He'd even like to be a she right I mean he, he has expressed admiration for, you know, when she does stuff everybody, everybody, everybody stands up when he walks into a room when she does this. People chew him you know why are people I don't people like me like they like she, you know, and he says this stuff with a straight face you really holds this. But that's, that is, that is where we're heading unfortunately. Yes, I do think he'd like to be like a, maybe like an all bond who who still pretenses pro democracy, but his control over the media no media has can oppose him. And he basically gets elected forever for life, because not because he cheats on the election, but because he's rigged the media and everything else to keep his message at the forefront, and he just can't lose so. And of course that's where we come with the Santies and Disney Disney is the biggest media outlet in Florida and Santa the Santies is trying to exert complete government control over it. Yep. Yeah. Good for Disney for an alternative to Trump. Yeah, I agree with you. I agree. I was hoping he would be. He's turned out not to be at all. Please consider sharing our content and of course subscribe. Press that little bell button right down there on YouTube so that you get an announcement when we go live and for those of you who already subscribers and those of you who already supporters of the show. Thank you. I very much appreciate it.