 Good morning. Welcome to homecoming 2022. Go Bears! Oh, come on. One more time. Go Bears! Go Bears! Thank you. I'm Stacey Kono. I'm the vice chair of the board of the Japanese American Women Alumni, alumni of UC Berkeley, and we're so happy you've joined us this morning for this panel. Before we get started, we're going to do a land acknowledgement in UC Berkeley's tradition of acknowledging the land on which we are holding this event and that we want to honor the history of. I'm going to read this through. Before we begin this event, we take a moment to recognize that Berkeley sits on the territory of the Weaching, the ancestral and unceded land of the Chochenyo Ohlone, the successors of the historic and sovereign Verona Band of Alameda County. This land was and continues to be of great importance to the Ohlone people. We recognize that every member of the Berkeley community has benefited from the use and occupation of this land since the institution's founding in 1868. Consistent with our values of community and diversity, we have a responsibility to acknowledge and make visible the university's relationship to native peoples. By offering this land acknowledgement, we affirm indigenous sovereignty and will work to hold University of California Berkeley more accountable to the needs of American Indian and indigenous peoples. We know that many of you are spread throughout the world on the land of other peoples and would like to take the time to acknowledge the ancestral history as well. Okay. So again, welcome. Before we begin our program this morning, and since we're in person, I'm not sure how many of you have been in person events for over the last two and a half years, right? I want to do a bit of a roll call. So I'm going to call out a group of people and if you want to raise your hand, you can make some noise. You can even say go bears again if you want to get warmed up more. I'd love to first have our JAWA board members raise their hands. Woohoo! Thank you. Welcome. I'd love to welcome all of the incoming students who may be just starting Cal. Any of you here today? Welcome. If you graduated 2000 or after, could you raise your hand from Cal? Okay. Maybe online there are some folks. Okay. If you graduated between 1980 and 2000. Woohoo! Great. Okay. If you graduated before 1980, could you raise your hand? Yay! Welcome. If you're a family member of a Cal student, you want to raise your hand? Thank you. Welcome. We're so proud to have you all here join us this morning. JAWA, Japanese American Women Alumni, is an official chapter of the California Alumni Association and our work is to honor the recipients of scholarships and fellowships at UC Berkeley that come from our Endowment Fund. We're committed to growing that fund to support students in their academic pursuits. We support research, education and leadership development efforts related to our community and we seek to foster a community of UC Berkeley students, staff, faculty, alumni and all of our community members in service to our alma mater. Today, we're presenting a panel to you, Different Paths to Leadership, Japanese American Women at Cal and it's going to be a multi-generational conversation of Cal graduates who will share their unique stories and experiences with you of coming to Cal and what they're up to now in their leadership. First, I'm going to introduce to you our esteemed panelists and then we'll start the conversation. If we have enough time at the end, there may be time for questions but otherwise, I hope to have a really rich presentation and story sharing. To my left, I'm happy to welcome Leslie Tsukamoto who graduated in 1988 with her teaching degree and taught elementary school in the Vallejo Unified School District. I am so happy to be on the board of JAWA with Leslie. To her left is Dr. Lisa Hidai Tsuchitani who's a faculty member here at Cal in Asian American and Asian Diaspora Studies. She's the faculty co-chair of Asian American and Pacific Islander, the Asian American and Pacific Islander Standing Committee and recently completed her term as the JAWA board chair. And finally, Tara, who's in the very last chair, received her bachelor's and master's in social work at Cal and has been active in local community organizations here in the Bay Area and the Berkeley Buddhist Temple. Please give them a warm welcome. So I'm going to start with this first question. Since many of the folks here in the audience are alumni of UC Berkeley, and then we have someone also here who's just about to start. Can you each share with us what brought you here to Berkeley? And maybe we'll start with you, Leslie. Okay. Okay. Well, I was a returning student. Both of my parents were Cal alums. My father received his degree while he was incarcerated at Tanforan and my mother had to leave Cal also, but returned in the 1960s to get her degree. So I knew that continuing the tradition was really important for them and they were very pleased to see that even though I didn't do my undergrad work here, I came back to Berkeley to get my credential. I also felt that if I was going to get a credential, I should get it from the best institution that I could go to. So of course I came to Berkeley. I went into the ERA program in the Graduate School of Education and it had an extremely rigorous interview process. So I figured if they were going to accept me that I would get a quality education. I knew of a couple of faculty staff members and they had been so highly spoken of that I was very anxious to be accepted. Unfortunately I was. The program really was interesting. It was a very good mix of theoretical and practical pedagogy and I think it prepared me very well for a career change which was very different. I had been an administrator with Pacific Telephone, but I retired after 20 years, which gave me the opportunity to come back and pursue something that I had always wanted to do. But I must say that I always tell people I had many challenging assignments in the business world, but teaching was by far the most difficult career that I had had. But I certainly feel that I was well prepared to enter the teaching world when I left. Thank you, Leslie. And Lisa, what led your path to Cal? Yeah, thanks for that question, Stacey. I wish I could say that I was as intentional as Leslie was in finding Berkeley. I actually was all set to go to a sister UC campus where I had a full ride and housing. Then there was an intervention that happened. Sometimes you meet people in your life who see opportunities for you that you may not see for yourself at that time. For me, the late Helen Mineta was one of those people, one of my mentors at the time, who had encouraged me to see more broadly what possibilities existed. She was my history teacher as a junior in high school. She was an alum who was incredibly dedicated and committed to the principles and values of the university, having met some amazing people when she was here as both a student and a resident at the International House. And so she challenged me really to sort of think more broadly about challenging myself at an institution like this. And I'm very grateful for that mentorship that she's given me. I haven't looked back ever since. Did you know before you came to Cal what you were going to study or did you come in like many students sort of open to exploring? I actually came in as a declared math major. Yeah, I know. And for those of you who know me, that's quite... I know someone's actually laughing in the audience about that. Thank you, Marcia. Yeah, I actually failed my first math class that I took as an undergraduate student my first semester here. And I'm grateful for that experience, really. I mean, it was painful at the time when you're all set to sort of be a math major. But I'm grateful because it allowed me to pursue my passion or what I discovered to be my passion, which was the social sciences. Thanks, Lisa. And how about you, Tara? What led you to Berkeley? Yeah, so I guess the first time around for my undergrad, I chose Berkeley because it was the only school that I had applied to that had an undergraduate social work program. And at first I was kind of debating between a couple of schools, but then one of my teachers, a mentor, I was asking him and he was like, well, which one has what you're most interested in? And so he's like, oh, Berkeley's a no-brainer then since you want to go into social work. And then I had lots of family support as well because my dad and grandpa had gone to Cal and also a cousin and uncles. So they were very excited for me to go to Berkeley. And then I found my way back. I knew for sure that I wanted to come back to Berkeley for my master's in social work because I knew that Berkeley would also give me the opportunity to learn more about the meso and macro levels of social work and some more of the program, the policy, the community organizing, while most schools kind of focus on the micro, which I was also interested in, but I wanted to really kind of learn all the different pieces of social work. And then the social justice aspect of Cal really drew me as well. Thank you. Anything about your family's experiences at Cal? Did they ever tell you stories that also led you to go, oh, Cal's the only place I'm going to apply? Not really. I mean, my cousin was really excited about it for triathlon and stuff, but yeah. I did have a friend kind of joke. We have a house divided license plate because my mom went to the other school and he's like, oh, we should color in the license plate and I do. You chose to come here. You chose team Cal. Go Bears. Great. Well, for those of you, if you're coming back to Berkeley for the first time in a long time to the campus, you may have memories stirred up. For me, just walking into Sproul Plaza, I was remembering tabling for student organizations, being out there during lunchtime, all the music playing, the singing group singing, and just remembering all the people that I met. So the next question is about what's your favorite memories of Cal or what you took away from your experience? So this time I'm going to start with Tara. We'll go a different direction. Can you read the questions? Yeah. What? Let's see. Can you share what your most memorable experiences at Cal were? Yeah. I would say, apart from having two bus everywhere because we had a free bus pass because Uber wasn't a thing then and trying to catch the bus when you're five minutes early but it's already leaving or waiting for an hour, apart from those fun learning experiences, I think for me last year, my fourth year was really memorable because I joined or I decided to be on the board for the Nikkei Student Union and I hadn't initially planned to join. I was going to focus on volunteering at Children's Hospital Oakland and in Oakland Unified. I already had my plan but my friends were like, Tara, there's no one to take over some of these board positions, core positions and they might so they're like, you should apply and so kind of reluctantly I decided to help out with community service and it ended up being a really great experience because I was able to build these really great relationships with other core members for some context normally the core board was like 10 to 12 people and that year there was eight of us half of us had initially a plan to be with NSU and it used to be like 50 more people and then that year there weren't very many members but so we all kind of came together to really make sure the club was still there because it had impacted our lives a lot we had made a lot of connections there and so this core board we were kind of running around doing these different things we didn't know the ins and outs of the Berkeley side we could program do programming and stuff but other than that we didn't even know Professor Tutitani was our advisor things like that so I think today I still see a good core of them get food and things like that sweet it sounds like it was particularly memorable because of the load of work that you were all carrying to keep it going would you mind for audience members who don't know what NSU and Nikkei Student Union is to explain a little bit about the mission UC Berkeley or Nikkei Student Union is a Japanese American I don't really know what the current mission is but kind of cultural interest club a lot of the activities are around Japanese American culture as well as we do community service work and issues and really just a community to come together and connect thanks yeah Jawa has actually partnered pretty closely with NSU and it's been really wonderful to have alum and current students be connected in this way how about for you Lisa memories so many I just have to say before I start Tara thank you for letting me know I've been falling down on my responsibility as faculty advisors I'm going to make sure I reach out to NSU and support them in their important work so you know I've got a lot of memories here because I have been both an undergraduate student here and now I'm in a faculty role so when I was thinking about an answer to this question I just put a preliminary list of things down as a starting point so bear with me you know I remember the first time I taught a class here on campus and was mistaken for a student in that class which sadly doesn't happen now I have to say I remember walking across the stage at cellar over here to receive my doctorate as the first woman in my family to pursue and complete a degree in higher education I remember participating in an honorary degree ceremony in honor of 120 Japanese American students of the class of 42 who are not allowed to participate in their graduation ceremony as a result of Executive Order 9066 I remember working with those alumni of the Cal class of 42 to realize their vision of the cherry tree grove over here by West Circle and that was done to commemorate the legacy of Japanese American alumni here on campus and actually here in Polly Ballroom in 2019 I remember commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Asian American diaspora studies program here in front of a crowd and with a community of over 500 attendees and part of that celebration actually included the whole ballroom singing Happy Birthday to the late Norman Mineta who was having his 88th birthday a few days afterwards that was really wonderful so I'll stop there Those are wonderful, thank you demonstrates and creates the picture of the really rich history around Asian Americans and Japanese Americans here at UC Berkeley thank you Leslie, are there any memories you want to share about your Cal experience? Yes, well you know, my father was in that class of 42 so I remember being at the ceremony and it was very moving it was very important to him so I've always appreciated the fact that the university had the foresight to honor them because it was very meaningful when I started in the ERA program it struck me because about half of my classmates were career change individuals we had a small cohort group and in my group there was an architect an attorney and a nurse and there were also a number of other people that were coming from the business world so it was very interesting to me that I think it was apparent that not only was education so important but it was worth people doing career changes making career changes to go into education so I thought that was very interesting and I think it just reinforced the fact that I felt that I made the right career move I've been out of teaching for over 10 years now but I think the experience has served me well and I've never looked back was part of your education or was part of the program also teaching in the classroom was there sort of an additional what is it, hands on you have to do student teaching and I think that's for most programs whether it's through the state college or the university you do a six week stint in a lower grade for elementary teachers and a six week stint in a lower grade and a six week stint in an upper grade so I had the chance to do some student teaching in the Piedmont school district in a kindergarten class and then a six week stint in the Berkeley unified school district in a sixth grade class so that itself was quite an eye opener to see the difference in what happens in Piedmont what happens in Berkeley so that itself was an education thank you so again this panel is about the different paths to leadership and leadership not being necessarily becoming the president but leadership in the ways in which we're all making a difference and making an impact in our communities so this last question is really about what where you my glasses are really bad what path did Cal create for each of you to where you are now as you look back you had the different memories of the work with different student groups and your programs with just the experiences of connecting to your community what contributed to your leadership here and I'll start with Tara again so I guess kind of as I said before I didn't necessarily seek out leadership positions when I was at Cal they kind of fell like file into them a little bit both between Niki Student Union and the Social Work Undergraduate group they were both kind of about to die so I was like okay I'm going to help out with some other fourth year about to graduate students and I think because of my experience with the Niki Student Union that's actually how I became involved with the Berkeley Japanese American Citizens League because I was doing the community service work they're like oh Tara you also want to do our day of remembrance I'm like okay because of that that's how I got connected with the Citizens League or JCL the Berkeley chapter and I've actually been a board member since then leading kind of different civil rights activities we've done some panels and really trying to do more education in the community and also connecting with other communities and how we can support and then I think the other thing that Cal did is just by being where Berkeley is where the campus is I'm Buddhist and I stumbled upon the Berkeley Buddhist temple in my first year and so part of it was you know so close so I could walk to the temple and also how welcoming it was and so Cal kind of was able to provide me both kind of those leadership opportunities and also like this community that was really supportive and so now at the temple I've been able to be involved with their board and their community activities and we also started a diversity committee in 2020 Thanks Tara How about you Lisa? So I really appreciate the framing that you gave us about you know a definition of leadership because honestly I feel like my career and leadership are still works in progress are evolving you know that said as a man-grant institution dedicated to a mission of public service UC Berkeley I feel continues to offer such a plethora really of opportunities to learn to grow and to serve you know the program that I'm located in the Asian American and Asian diaspora studies program and the Department of Ethnic Studies resulted from one of the most violent and longest student struggles in the history of this country and given this history I really don't take lightly the responsibility that we as faculty and students have to make visible, meaningful and constructive our engagement with racism, settler colonialism economic and political inequities health disparities, climate change at the local, national and global levels for me fulfilling this responsibility also includes service on campus bodies such as the Asian American and Pacific Islander Standing Committee I have my wonderful co-chair here Marcia G. Riley and it's been such a pleasure to work in partnership with her on this we were created in 2019 as an advisory body to the Chancellor and her cabinet to lift Asian American and Pacific Islander undergraduate and graduate student staff and faculty issues I also serve on the Latinx thriving institution initiative steering committee and that is dedicated to realizing Chancellor Chris's commitment that UC Berkeley would become a Hispanic serving institution by 2027 joining five other UC campuses which already hold that distinction and of course it's been wonderful to work with the Japanese American women alumni of UC Berkeley I actually served on the board for over two decades and I don't think you'll ever be a more committed and fierce group of alumni who are very committed to honoring the legacy of the folks who actually created the chapter and in service of course to our campus so you know the work aside I really think that what I found most meaningful is the opportunity to meet some amazing people and for that I'm truly grateful so Thank you Lisa and Leslie will you share with us a little bit about what what path Cal created for you towards your leadership well my leadership pales in comparison to what Lisa has done here but I think it really provided the opportunity for me to become a part of the Japanese American women alumni group it started with my mother actually she had been on the board for many years and got to an age where she didn't want to drive so I would drive her to the meetings and she would have to stay but having been a Cal alum I eventually became a board member and have been for the last 12 years maybe so although I don't consider myself a leader I consider myself an active participant because I think it's a very very important organization and the history of the Japanese women that have gone to Berkeley is so important that we really need to honor that to keep that alive and we do do that through our endowment fund by honoring our alumni outstanding alum every year hopefully we'll have an in-person event this year because we've had wonderful speakers and if any of you are interested I'll throw in my pitch for check our website jawcb.org and read all about us so I can't emphasize enough how important this organization has meant to me and to my mother and most of the women like Stacy that served on the board so thank you and you're so humble Leslie you just actually modeled leadership in inviting this audience to check out Jawa and be a part of supporting something greater so thank you for all your leadership in Jawa that you've brought and all the mentorship and coaching and cheerleading you've brought to me in your role on the board maybe I'll add to just from my personal experience that I was created in 1995 and my path to leadership I don't think I would be where I am now without Cal I currently am an executive director of a national non-profit organization that's working to bring dignity and respect to domestic workers, nannies, house cleaners and home care workers a largely women of color population in this country that because of labor law were excluded from labor protection so the current day conditions of low wages little health and safety protection, sexual harassment on the job, discrimination the reason that they cannot really pull down on those laws and rights that so many other workers can is because of the racism that excluded black workers from labor protections back in the 30s so part of my work today has been to really end that exclusion and lift up the work of child care workers, house cleaners home care workers and our families and in our lives and I don't think I would be here without Cal because here I learned about the history of racism in this country, here I got to connect to workers rights organizing here I met with other students who brought their immigrant stories me, I'm second generation third generation so had some distance from it but was really able to learn so much that deepened my commitment to be a part of something greater and to spend my time to actually work for change as all of us have in lots of different ways on the very local community level on the university level within our families and for larger policy change so that's what led to my leadership path maybe I'll just add another question on I know we have at least one new student in the mix but maybe more have joined us since we started the program I wonder if each of us have a piece of advice for new students coming to Cal it could be a simple tip like hey make sure you check out Durant Square because there's usually really cheap food it could be something far more profound could be where the best we can get the best copies rate I don't know anyways any tips and actually if the audience wants to join in with tips to think about it is there any tips you've got I'll let you this is a surprise question to them I didn't prep them so I'm going to give them a few seconds to think about this I think my tip would have been about does yogurt park still exist okay check out yogurt park if you haven't yet it's on Durant and you can get really good sauce or frozen yogurt um does any of you want to start with your it doesn't have to be a single tip it can be multiple tips to make the best use of their Cal experience since this is homecoming thanks Leslie I think like anything else in life I think especially when you're a new student you're very involved in your class work your course work and things but I think it's important to reach out to other people to pursue all the opportunities that you can to whether it's a joint an organization like NSU um there are so many different student organizations um whether it's something that's academic or whether it's something that's social um you know to really put yourself out there to get the best experience that you can um because you'll never I don't think have a better time in your life where you have an opportunity to join to meet and to learn take advantage thanks Leslie I can go so I guess a couple thoughts came to mind one was ask questions be curious ask for help I think you know when I was an undergrad I was really struggling in econ I still probably would because I don't understand it but I didn't realize I had a couple of peers and I could have reached out to them and I had no idea and so yeah I would say whether it's a graduate student instructor but if that's too intimidating maybe a peer or maybe one of your friends has a friend so don't be afraid to ask those questions and ask for help and that kind of leads me to the next point we're not really we're not alone and we have Berkeley is big and so that can make it really intimidating but something I've learned in terms of like leadership is a big piece of it isn't you know like leading it's more the connections to others it's more about the teamwork and collaboration and being able to be accountable for ourselves and others and so I think my other thing that I've learned along the way especially in Berkeley was the importance of those connections and teamwork yeah thank you that's all wonderful advice I wish I had had that when I started here and it's a great question so thank you for that gosh you know I would just echo what Leslie and Tara have said about you know making the most of being here it goes very quickly I think and there are a lot of opportunities to pursue I guess from the more academic side if I may I would just ask folks to come to office hours and talk to us because we're human beings and we are actually committed to your success we really are just come in and talk to us really we're here to help as faculty I think too what I have heard from students often and that has been consistent is like self-doubt is something that I think permeates this campus it's so huge it's so intimidating right where the number one public university in the world I guess I would just ask students who are coming in and who are here to remember that you are enough no one made a mistake admitting you into this institution you deserve to be here own it right don't wait until your graduation day to realize that I think that once you settle into that identity you'll just be able to pursue so many more things than I think you might imagine are theirs for you to imagine and grasp so that would be my advice those are wonderful thank you all maybe because I know we still have a little time on our clock for this program and so many of you are alumni too is there pieces of advice that you would give the entering class into Cal again it can be very deep and profound or very superficial like mine and yogurt park we can pass the mic around football game related since it's homecoming weekend it could be housing related since that is really hard to figure out in this city school stuff lessons you learned remember to go also to the discussion groups which sometimes I didn't and that's why I didn't do so well in a sociology class places to study places to study anyone suggestions the collective wisdom on the stage is really hard to add to so I'm just going to say I think my mistake coming in as a freshman was not exploring more more resources I think there's so many resources that I did not take advantage of coming through the door I think one would be surprised at how many resources are actually available to students on campus you just have to look for them this isn't really a place that holds your hand through your career here and so it's really taking initiative I think that's super important and good support networks right within your major and outside of your major I think having that friend support mentoring relationship is what helps not to survive but thrive while you're here as you're all talking and thinking back to times in my dorm which no longer exists it was at the top of Dwight 10 years ago but there were six or eight of us who after about a couple months in the dining halls just gathered at mealtime, mainly dinner eventually made some trips to San Francisco in one or two convenient cars that someone had and about 20 years ago one of that group had a son who was graduating from Cal invited us to brunch to celebrate the occasion and summer along that time we also started gathering one summer weekend each year just to hang out and cook food and talk about times and when we were in the dorms as freshmen I was a freshman a couple of other sort of sophomores there was no way that I would have predicted and said oh yeah you know 40-50 years from now we've been together once a summer for a few days you just never know so cultivate relationships outside the major wherever you find people clubs because those connections and relationships you never know where they're going to lead and here we are this many years on and fingers crossed will be continuing wonderful thank you for that you're making me think of all the people I've stayed in touch with too through the years did I see a hand over here anywhere thank you realize when I started I thought oh everybody here is smarter than I am but they're not you know you got into and what you have to say is as valid as anybody else and so stick your hand up and in and participate and it's amazing what will happen um and take advantage of programs like I did years ago I did Cal in the capital and for 18 years my family went to the lair of the bear and the connections we've made from that have been astounding um take advantage of all that this place has to offer and you'll be so glad you did and I'm back here for my 50th reunion it's been 50 years since I graduated and I'm still married to my husband and we met through a program and we went to Cal in the capital and it's taken us all over the world and our connections have been amazing so take advantage of it I had my first exposure telling this fellow earlier today at 11 years, my dad went to Cal and my uncle was a stroke on the Cal crew team and Gregory Peck was his stroke and every year after that, Gregory Peck sent a Christmas card to my uncle for the rest of his life you know those kind of connections you just can't buy so take advantage of them and you know you use them because you never know you never know I would add consider Study Abroad although that takes you away from Berkeley and all that Berkeley has to offer it can be a really amazing experience in its own right I was an undergraduate here studying zoology and anthropology and ended up doing my junior year in Kenya so I was able to pursue those academic interests and then just getting out on Safari as often as possible the other thing I would just briefly put in a plug for the Discovery Initiative which is a new campus-wide effort from the highest levels of the administration on down to try to create pathways for new students to find their calling find their passion and engage in that both academically and personally and then culminate with sort of a capstone project for their senior year and it's forming in various ways right now one aspect of it is called Berkeley Connect which is a separate program that's been around for about nine years not every department has a Connect office so you'd have to check and see if it works with your major but the idea for Berkeley Connect is to pair it with a graduate student mentor who helps them navigate both the academic and the personal sides of being at Berkeley but there is a website for the Discovery Initiative I think it's discovery.berkeley.edu so new students check that out Thank you for that Any other tips? Pearls of Wisdom and way back Yes, thank you Mine is just be open to exploring things outside of your major again it's along the theme of exploring the campus because we just went to Professor Phillip Penko's lecture yesterday and I'm like, I had him in I think in 1991 my daughter had him last year and he was still phenomenal and so I think I had Alan Dundee's from Anthropology I had Marion Diamond from the biology department I wouldn't have those opportunities if I just stayed in my lane of my major so definitely go outside and explore and just do it for joining in on this conversation we have just a few minutes left but I open it up for questions and answers if folks have any questions Okay, I have a question of the panelists If you had a million dollars today and you could do anything you wanted to do with it, what would that be? A million dollars What would you do? What would you do with it? Provide student housing That's such a loaded question coming from you Lynn as someone who worked in the development office here for many years and was the first woman identifying rally committee chair right? I'm sort of torn as to how to properly respond to you Yeah, I'm going to think about that a little bit but appreciate the question This is hard because most of the things I'm thinking about would probably take more than that Reformed child welfare would be great but I'm working in child welfare so I know how much it costs to run it but I think something I don't know if this is still within that price range but if we could bring more opportunities for like learning about well I know there's already initiatives for this but we're having trouble getting them through but like more opportunities to learn from each other across culture just more diversity opportunities to learn about different religions and cultures and values and to connect something I've learned is some restorative justice efforts in the community building piece can really help prevent a lot of the things that we're experiencing like racism and conflicts in general because once we can understand each other as human federal really help bridge that so something in that I don't know what it would look like but I think I would give the $1 million to a student committee to decide how best to steward the funds I think the students here are so amazing and really the reason why I stay connected to campus I'm an accidental academic I was not planning actually to be a faculty member when I grow up and I'm still sort of easing into that role but students here are truly brilliant in so many ways that I think they'd be able to steward that money best those are good responses oh there's a follow up you want me to answer that too I think housing is very critical we're in such a crisis for students to be able to afford housing actually I'll just say plus one to all of those I love all of them this is a brilliant panel well what we may do because often times we didn't start Cal time so we didn't start 10 minutes after the hour but you still probably need time to get to your next class so we'll end a little early here I'm gonna put this slide up so that you can be in touch with Jawa J-A-W-A-U-C-B dot-O-R-G for the Japanese American Women's Alumni of UC Berkeley stay in touch with us, sign up for notifications, find out about the events that we have going on and then finally the closing slide for the homecoming 2022 let's practice Go Bears a few times Go Bears Go Bears Go Bears we're gonna win that football game this afternoon Go Bears one more time Go Bears Thank you have a wonderful afternoon