 You're welcome back to the breakfast on Plus TV Africa. We're starting off with the big stories on the front pages of our national dailies and to make sense of all of this we have our public affairs analyst Mr. Ezeko Ayato, a public affairs analyst who will be joining us to make sense of all of this. But I'd like to start off with the leadership newspaper this morning. Looking at the front page of the leadership newspaper the big story here says one year after hashtag ends as protest police food drag on reforms that's the bold story you find on the leadership newspaper and that's on page four. Now underneath police brutality continues amid attacks on stations facilities over 20 police stations attacked and 47 officers killed in 12 months that's quite sad if you ask me federal government state ops to fund capital project with 350 trillion in five years it's also another story on page four of the leadership newspaper as you're looking at the leadership newspaper you have power shift in new tweets north central backs nothing governors that's on page seven of the leadership newspaper or basakimid's president mohammed abu harry and six funding for ranches it's also another interesting read on page uh page five and you have pdp chairman nothing leaders narrow down on who find out on page six all right and let's move to the daily independent news whippers next see what we can find big one there says 2022 appropriation bill reps urge cotton 6.45 trillion naira new borrowing want increase in oil benchmark to 60 dollars works allocation 500 billion naira it also says stiffer sanctions for airing mda's on capital implementation mda's sabotaging buhari's efforts to borrow says lawan also asha buhari converses increased uh synergy between the first ladies and media okay governors adima demands additional states for the southeast and also sunday boho critically ill in kotonu lawyer cries out federal government to borrow and vaccinated civil servants from work and union in deactivation ministry over nigerian eagles crisis we can also find on the daily independent nigeria airmarks 350 trillion naira for capital projects from 2021 to 2025 and on pdp convention are you shema nazif battle for chairmanship position governors root for are you all right let's quickly check out the nation news paper this morning uh looking at the big story here it pdp chairman noff's party leaders consensus plan shaky that's broadly written on the nation news paper this morning three geopolitical zones pick different candidate mac ganar idris we throw that's also underneath the board caption you have iqbahu six nod for treatment in germany or france uh that's on page six uh talking about sunday boho six nod for treatment in germany or france uza dimmar renames hero square after adubi c canu and senate invite workers or walks ministry others over foreign loans uh i think that's what you find here uh just before we move away quickly you have covid 19 november deadline for federal workers to get vaccinated award all of the information available on page four of the nation newspaper all right and also the daily trust newspapers federal government private sector to breach 350 trillion naira infrastructure gap uh amount equals nigeria's 18 years budget states that contributes 20 trillion naira and also plan will reduce huge debt budding but also nmpc to rebuild failed roads we can also find here a pandora secret deal between sambo dasuki's family and billionaire contractor exposed covid 19 on vaccinated civil servants barred from work as bandits kill five soldiers in zamfara mixed reactions as federal government moves to short idp camps still on the daily trust nigeria budgets 14.6 billion naira for suspended national career project in three years pdp chair shema iu nazif emerge as zonal candidates right and we'll say good morning once again to mr zikhail nyayatok thanks for joining us good morning always a pleasure to be with you every thousand morning absolutely let's start with the you know our conversation on the pdp chairmanship um certain names have of course uh cryptop there's a shema there's iu and nazif and of course uh a few others i'm sure that would also likely uh give that a shot you know so share your thoughts on where that seems to be headed and what it really means uh going forward with regards uh a candidate for 2023 okay um i think i'll talk about it ideologically because that's more useful to the nation when you know i was once a national um party chairman and um the very first meeting i attended was when they were doing election and i decided to buy for the vice chairmanship of ipak and they really think that i mean it was preposterous that i wouldn't have a modern one vote then there were 29 parties but long story short they made a mistake of giving me just five minutes to say something and i made a very simple statement that every party is government every party is government you are either government in action or you are government in waiting when you understand that as a party that every party is government then the leader of that party has to be somebody who understands what government is what governance is who sets up the dynamics of the party to be able to give either the real government or the shadow government so that like apc by the time pdp gives way and you come in you come in and you the tire just hits the tire and you can you you hit the ground running immediately as at today what determines who will pdp pick as their chairman is it a good politician or an administrator that will reposition the party to move governance from politics to governance what is the consideration incidentally we don't think governance we think politics so they are looking going to look for that man who can you know muster whatever it takes for for them to to remain in power as good as that is but that man must be able to give pdp a vision and a direction as they move into 2023 he has to be able to communicate his game plan to be able to inspire confidence in the electorate they need to be very careful because the role of the party chairman is coming at a very very crucial time somebody who is going to have to get into the driving seat hit the ground running and inspire confidence in the new Nigeria that we all desire Nigerians right now are fed up with apc and pdp and pdp have a very great opportunity right now for them to make a statement to Nigerians that look this is a new improved pdp and whoever they choose as a party has to be charismatic has to have the capacity to communicate has to be somewhere that is relatively trusted has to come with a vision that he will communicate forcefully because it's going to be a chief campaigner for the party if they do not take these considerations into cognizance and just think of who will play their game that we so lose that we hate the day they were born that's that's what i want to say concerning that okay let's quickly look at the leadership newspaper this morning and and looking at the front page the broad story talks about the hashtag ensas protest it's almost a year of of course you say it's a year already and the reason for that protest was many asking for a reform in the police sector i mean let there be reforms but one year after nothing seemed to have happened i mean as regards you know the reforms here what do you really make of that you see our administrators the very first mistake they made thinking they were trying to be smart by half was to try to change the narrative the narrative was not that of frustrated young people getting down and looting and destroying as they try to make ensas to me it was very very very articulate young people extremely articulate for the first time making a very specific demand and ordering themselves in the most organized manner ever in the history of this country as i can remember they not only were extremely peaceful but they even would sweep the place unpack the place you know of all the dirt they didn't go collecting money from people they contributed money they had a point to make and we're making that point so forcefully that we are the people in power seeing that they were getting you know embarrassed so to speak decided to play the game that they are very good at by sponsoring hoodlums to come and infiltrate and cost and then they wanted to change the narrative to be that of these young destructive people they have come again that was not the story of ensas the story of ensas should be written and rewritten and because they refused to understand the story of ensas they have refused in my personal opinion to come up with the solution that these young people required let the police stop harassing intimidating the police are supposed to be those that helped to maintain law and order the police are supposed to be people that the the society has so much confidence in they will bring up any information that is against the interests of state and who do they go to they go to the police let's reform the police to become people who are very trustworthy people who the the citizens have a lot of confidence in people who understand the young people and understand that this is the take edge let the police understand what cyber crime is let them understand what technology is let them understand that every young person is supposed to be encouraged to have you know a laptop or a smartphone to be able to play in the fourth revolution that has already kicked in instead of seeing you with a laptop and immediately branding you as you know 419 or these yaw yaw boys and things like that let them set up a system an ecosystem to isolate the bad and encourage the good because the way forward for Nigeria is education and technology okay when you do this we have a police that enjoys the confidence of the young people we can then isolate the criminals and then we can move forward what a beautiful story to tell and what an opportunity we are seemingly missing that is a follow-up to that as a follow-up to that discourse right there what could there be I mean what could really be responsible for the brutality that the police force is really facing according to reports here over 200 police stations have been attacked and 47 officers killed within this period could it be that it's because of the lack of reforms and what could be responsible for all of this brutality which is not really I mean it's not acceptable if you ask me Nigeria is a very interesting country Nigeria is a country where you don't have leaders that care about the people Nigeria is a country where we have leaders that don't mind causing problems so that they can have their way they don't mind sponsoring thugs to take away ballard boxes so that they can disrupt the whole system and do what they want to do the time has gone when we need to know that we need to isolate the goat and the yam we need to know what is driving politics what politicians want we need to come to that conversation because some of the things that are happening just don't have a logical explanation before you can have the boldness the f1 3d audacity to move into a certain police station that is in the center of the city you need to be either so sophisticated or you know that it is an insider job nothing is going to happen some of the police stations that have been burnt and the way they've been attacked I mean let's get cerebral just a little bit it beats him you know crime has a certain standard it operates globally crime has a way for instance once there is a place that there are cameras people are likely to be a little careful on crime okay but when you know that there are cameras you know there are cameras and then you brazenly go to commit crime knowing that you should not really be captured by the camera it's either because you know that that camera is shut down so that there's an insider job before time or you know that I mean your guys won't stand in you so nothing is going to happen there's going to be a beautiful explanation as to how nepatric light or how you know one thing or the other I think that what is going on in Nigeria today is that the good people have stayed back and the political hoodlums have seized the state and they are doing a lot of uninteresting things I don't believe that any young person have related with the young people almost all my life go back to my Facebook pages for 20 years ago 15 years ago you will see a consistency that's why I was able to be called in to give the young people a party where I co-founded the young democratic party and was the pioneer national chairman Nigerian youth are not recalcitrant they are not complacent they are not unpatrotic if anything it is Nigerian youth that are giving Nigeria the good image today go to sport is Nigerian youth go to fashion is Nigerian youth go to nollywood is Nigerian youth go to music is Nigerian youth and these are the things that are giving Nigeria positive image abroad and these people are not even backed by government Nigerian youth are very very patronizing they are very very patriotic they are very very you know together we need to redefine our understanding of the Nigerian youth but we must stigmatize them we must call the most sub names so that we can have reason to isolate them from governance that's what we can transfer to the youth yeah so so we can you know also cover other stories you know sadly you know this you know police and youth conversation may never end um and of course you know it it reaches into the need for police reforms that the Nigerian government doesn't seem interested in and at the same time you know how can the young people even force the government to reform the police force you know if the government itself is not interested in reforming that police force it's a tiring conversation you know but of course it's important uh but let's move on to other things you know and that's infrastructure now one of the stories um that made headlines across the papers was a plan for 350 trillion Naira investment in in capital project it says on the daily independent top left corner Nigeria earmarks 350 trillion Naira for capital projects from 2021 to 2025 which sounds very interesting uh but you know i'm not sure if we can actually pull this off if we even have you know any way that we can source the funds to pull this off so this i have to share your thoughts on that one 350 trillion Naira that is way way more than our national budget um there are 18 years national budget more like i'll tell you one two three things number one is that when you talk of infrastructure there are two components to eat at the very least the very first component is the cost of the project how do you arrive at the cost of any project that's number one the second aspect is the implementation dynamics of that project because you can have a project that is well-costed so to speak and yet in the implementation you don't bring round pegs to round holes and as a result you mix them up and unfortunately we are we are losing on both counts now when you go to PPP which is a private public partnership the the government networking with the private sector so that they don't need to bring all the funds in but they kind of um you know uh leasing out or having an understanding where you can either build or pray before you transfer or just something that brings in the private sector you realize that government does not need to bring all the funds a very good example i can give you right now is an estate that i am involved in i'm doing with the federal government in we all in that estate the senate committee came in and declared it most interesting the best estate they've seen in the country so far how did they arrive at that the federal government did not put a dime a cobble in the construction of that estate they just provided the land and basic infrastructure and that estate is fully built now what that means is that if we had the cost of infrastructure and land at say two billion and then the cost of the construction at three billion that makes it five billion the federal government only brought out two billion whereas the other three billion came from a completely different sector now that is the way to go now they had a choice of going to borrow a complete five billion to be able to put that estate up so in looking for two three fifty trillion it has to do with you thinking outside the box not thinking contract alone but thinking how you are going to be able to get the work done sincerity of purpose a ppp this ppp should not be like the china ppp that you have where we are told that the the the laws are written in chinese and we just are shown where to sign you need to be very very patriotic you need to be result oriented you need to come to a point where you know that you are result oriented when that is done it is possible for us to borrow that amount of money but not with this present government no not Nigerians need to come to think of electing a governance system or set of people that are not just patriotic but have competence character and of course capacity when these people come in we can borrow three hundred trillion into Nigeria and then we will be able to repay the whole thing because every project is properly costed not just properly costed every project is handled by the most competent people so the result comes in on time the usage is there and then the derivatives come out and are used to repay the loan it is possible but the current government does not believe in cerebral governance they believe in political governance political governance means collect the money run your election leave your tunnel leave the loan whoever comes in will take after that they don't care about the next generation they only care about the next election so these governments should just stop where it is just manage where we are we won't die at the end of 2023 Nigerians have a responsibility to bring on board people who are thinking governance and they understand the dynamics of governance they understand the place of patriotism they understand the weakness of the system and strengthen it when that is done we can borrow as much money and every funds is like me going to the bank banks give me loans i refuse to ought to take them because i'm not i know i'm going to repay i'm looking at the loans i'm looking at the conditions and i'm looking at how much i really need if i need 300 million i'm not going to borrow 350 million but quality says bring as much as you can okay uh just before we let you go now quickly we'd like to show your thoughts on this sunday boho has been diagnosed of kidney issues and he's asking that he'd like to be treated in france or germany uh how do you think that the government in benna republic should respond to this number one government in benna republic they have specialists they do have if they don't have which i will hate that they can hire get appropriate specialists to go through his medical records and undertake the necessary examinations if it's what you can handle handle it if it's beyond what you can handle it is better to allow the man to live and lose the case so to speak than to let him die in captivity because you do not want him to escape that's why the law says it is better for 20 criminals to be state free we are not sure than for one innocent man to be convicted wrongly so for here we are talking life if that man does have a condition it is not rocket science medical science can tell the stage if you have cancer if you have kidney problems whatever it is you have they can diagnose properly the stage you are in they also know their facilities if their facilities are good enough make it available to the man but give him the very best possible treatment don't let him die because you don't want him to run if there's need for him to go out let him go out if you lose him alone it is better because the the the the the implication the repercussion better still of him dying in prison is worse for the government than him being let on compassionate grounds to go for medical treatment and he escapes i think the government of bennie should be a lot more strategic in their thinking all right i think we can wrap it up here so we don't take too much time as kelly and i talk always interesting hearing your thoughts on major stories making headlines i wish you're very interesting thank you thank you and to my sister thank you so much for being part of the conversation we appreciate your time thank you all right stay with us we'll take a 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