 So let me introduce to you Mark Spillman. It's exciting to see so many new faces here. And what's happened in our neighborhood has reached a tipping point where it's really good to move into Beacon Hill. The climate and just environment seems to be encouraging people to move in. People are fixing up their houses. People are making a difference and it's making this an attractive neighborhood for a variety of people. What we need to do in zoning is to try to ensure that things continue to grow, continue to do well. And a lot of it has to do with our housing stock. We've got easily the best group of homes that are from the 1920s and have that kind of look to them that everybody really is looking for now. You know, the craft and style homeless is what people are looking for. They're extremely well built. They last a long time. If you take care of them, they do well. Unfortunately, we've got recently some problems. Heavy rains and heavy rains have brought out a whole bunch of carports. People are pulling carports all over the neighborhood and it's trying to keep their cars dry. Unfortunately, carports also have the adverse effect that if they're not designed and put up properly, if you go around the neighborhood, people will see some chimneys where it looks like there shouldn't be a chimney. Generally, that's because the water from one of the carports has runoff, eroded what was underneath the foundation for the chimney, and the whole thing kind of gives way eventually. So, you know, you think, well, everybody has their rights as a property owner to do what they want, but a lot of times by doing what they want affects the neighbor's property and makes a big difference for them. As far as what Cynthia said about getting new people into the neighborhood, please, if you can, come to a zoning meeting. You don't have to be an expert on zoning. A lot of the things there we can, you know, explain to you what we really need. We've been averaging 20 cases a month. I mean, that's 20 different properties that we've discussed and had to take sort of action on or had to get some resolution from the city about. We're going to discuss a few of those that we need to make a vote on. But first, Emmerich, would you go over what the design standards for a neighborhood are for carports? I know we're running long, so I'll go very quickly. And we've put on the web a simplified version of the NCD for residences. So if you want to know carport, building setbacks, anything, go to bahana.bha.na-sa.net and then click on ZUD. And on that page, you'll see all sorts of resources for that we use in ZUD, including the link to the NCD, both the NCD document and then simplified pages for each issue that you'd be looking for. But here's the rundown of carport. Carport must be constructed in the rear unless you have a corner lot. If it's attached to your house, it must be recessed from the front by at least five feet. It has to be constructed of building materials with the same scale, proportion, and or profile of the house, or as the house. And it must maintain the same roof lines as the primary structure. Temporary carport structures like those aluminum ones and the tent ones, those are prohibited outright. And as Mark said, with the hail and the rain, I mean there is just an epidemic of carports that's broken a hundred meek and hill, but there is a way to do it right. One of the very first issues that we've got in front of us is carport. They're asking for variants from all of the listed requirements. And it's a carport that's at 1114 Lindwood. They're asking for our support in giving them all those exemptions for the carport that they put up. We need to present sort of a gay or nanny on this issue. So the zoning would recommend that we do not support his request as a waiver for all the restrictions that NCD guidelines on this particular carport. But we usually bring these to the neighborhood and like to have your vote on it. Yes, and we're going to discuss. Yes, go ahead. Well, can I make a quick motion to see if this might be to everybody's liking? You know, right now we've got a lot of cases coming up. We're not meeting in July. So I'm making a motion or at least entertaining a thought that we give the permission to make decisions until we meet again in August on all the different cases that are going on now and let them represent the city until August when we meet again. We'll represent the neighborhood on their decisions. We almost always tend to go with their recommendation. They've been doing this a long time. They know the NCD and they know when exceptions. I don't know if that we don't normally do that. We normally bring things to the neighborhood. But in this case, unless we want to go through all the cases separately, can we make a motion that we allow them to represent us to the city until August when we meet again? Your part is that. Do I get a second? Okay, so you have a motion for Zudd to make the decisions about these properties and represent them until August. All in favor of that resolution? All in favor of that resolution? All in favor of that resolution. Go ahead. Do you mind telling me, because it might be important why you're not in favor? Oh, it's only personal. I just feel that it's probably a one-off instead of having a meeting, right? Uh-huh, yes. Maybe it's just worth having a meeting. Only because we're not having a meeting next month. Can we just have a meeting? Well, the problem is the school's not available and we're already going to have to find another place in August. And we're trying to save money by not having one month and we don't have a newsletter. So usually people don't come in July anyway. So we've picked that month for us to be on. Are we talking about actual cases going in front of zoning and planning? No, in front of court of adjustments, mostly. Well, in front of zoning, too. Is this one of the long-term planning, too? Yeah. There are a bunch of them coming up. They're coming up so fast. We can't even try to keep up with them. Absolutely. And that means that any of your decisions follow the standards that have already been adopted in our decision. They always will. Well, that's good. Well, that's good. Well, that's good. Well, that's good. Well, that's good. What do we talk about Mark? How many zoning cases do we have that are going to get her before August? I'm going to go through all the ones that we have in front of us right now real quickly. We're trying to get through the ones that are here. There will be other ones coming out that we don't know about. Yes. Can we just instead of having an association meeting for the zoning, invite people who want to vote to the ZUD committee meeting? Absolutely. ZUD is open to anybody. Right. But make it so people can go there to know that they can vote at that meeting since we're not having a July neighborhood meeting. Okay. We're not going to vote. Okay. You want to do that ever? Can you handle that? Like so many people, we're not going to be here in July. We will publish the ZUD meeting on Facebook. So if you're a member of Beacon Hill Area Neighborhood Association, Facebook group, you'll receive the notice of the meeting and you're either there or not. Is there a date at this time? We always meet on the first Thursday of the month, unless it's a specific schedule. Okay. So the one motion is the motion that we have a meeting to decide there if people can vote there or are you allowing ZUD to make the decision? You asked her answers to why she voted against, but what was the vote? I mean, they're not making a decision on that. Okay. We voted for allowing ZUD to make the thing. If you are interested in these cases, keep come to the ZUD meeting and that way you can have it put on the decision. ZUD will be meeting. Please come to the meeting. Your voice will be heard. In lieu of anything unusual, we're going to default to whatever the neighborhood conservation district can would be. In the case coming up, we're recommending that we default to preserving NCD standards. I don't understand what's going on. So somebody wanted to talk about Fred very quickly? That's the fifth item on the agenda. Thank you. Back to the carport issue. Does anybody have any questions about the carport? It's at 1114. You've probably seen it. If you haven't, it's immense. It goes way back. Is there anybody who would really be in favor of keeping allowing the person there to keep the carport at this particular location? I think generally we're not in favor of the type of carport. If it doesn't have any of the components necessary to the NCD and this one doesn't even have one I think we need to not approve that. Can we all in favor of not being in support of this what? Well there's some that are coming up. Robert on Capitol Marianne Marianne? Would you like to give us a little bit of background on there are six different addresses, right? Can you tell us? Six different addresses because two of the wellings are reflexes. So in this case we've got a property owner that owns four properties and he's asking for the planning and zoning commission to take him out of the current zone and he wants I the zoning which pretty much gives him the authority to do whatever he wants with the property. So he's asking to step out of the current zoning that he's in and go I right. This is a case where what's the address of the street? It is 147 West Rosewood and 1140 West Muldwood and it really incorporates the property between Muldwood and Rosewood on Capitol. So corner to corner Capitol, Muldwood to Rosewood. It's 1410, 1414 and 1416 Capitol. It's a zone now. It's a zone single family. He wants to zone. So he's really out of compliance. Where is zone RM4? RM4. The difference between RM4 and IDZ is pretty immense. What we're always trying to do. The story I heard was that the owner who's owned those properties and had the rented out for a long time is looking to replat the properties so that he can sell those houses key claims to the renters which sounds all very idealistic maybe that's true, maybe not maybe long term renters but in order for him to be able to sell to individual owners the plots have to be replatted and for that reason they need the IDZ because they're too small. There isn't a single family zoning designation for a 2000 square foot lot. Right. And the other issue that we don't know about is what are the other options to this person to pursue? We've had several cases in the neighborhood where we've given very commercial development sort of things to residents and in one instance over by the Presbyterian church across from there, the person only requested a commercial use for their property and a very nice person but they died I think within three months after granting it and now with the consequences and whatever you zone for a property it isn't just for the person that's there. You have to think about what the consequences are going to be long term and that's why we really are trying to encourage many people that can to come to zoning because it really is involved it's not just this one instance it's what possibly could happen and to be honest with IDZ we don't really know what his plans are hasn't been, Mary hasn't really communicated with us he seems to be a fairly sophisticated property owner I was told that he's an attorney I don't know if that's true or not but we have to assume that he's fairly aware of what he's asking for in terms of an IDC and I don't think we really have enough information about this property because he had to come to us to really support it at this time unless somebody knows something that they could present I would not think we'd want to be supportive of that change to IDC yes and move that we deny the request to change it might be better even if we did that we would be find out more we may be unsupported but as it is so far it definitely relates to 930 best credit that's coming up next Mark yes I think what I think what I am expecting here is that you're giving us the zoning case right you're letting us know what the zoning committee where deliberations are on the end for and that's it because y'all are going to make decisions because we just voted to give y'all the right to make those decisions well I'd like to go through the ones that we do have there are going to be some other ones coming up that we don't know about so right now I'm just trying to go through a couple of the simple ones that we can deal with as an inquiry so I hate to go completely against it but I don't think we can support it until we know more about it yes and our history says if you're moving from residential to and you're in the you know in the boundaries of residential that we're not going to support changes especially on any because yeah it's like yes Mark I think we can do this line the idea that the stuff we don't know about is the zoning and urban design committee to take care of it right now you're just presenting some cases where yes the zoning and urban design committee does have some recommendations and you're asking for the body to either approve it or deny it so my suggestion is first of all don't just talk in acronyms because we don't know what many people don't know what NCD stands for they don't know what IDZ stands for infill development okay well the idea is specifically tell us what the case is tell us what the committee recommendation is maybe open for a minute or two discussion and then have a vote okay I guess on this one with their your situation is that we would it is a committee not recommend that we change this property zoning to IDZ at this time we don't really know enough about it and it seems like the type of development that could go in there would not be advantage to the neighborhood in our opinion it solves his problem but it could present a big problem for us further down the line somebody took the same property bought it tore out those houses and started putting some businesses in there we may not be happy with the kind of business they put in and there's a huge issue with parking as well Mark Jesper time can we just talk about Craig and let the committee decide on the rest of it okay we got one more property that we need to discuss very quickly there's a situation where we've had some properties we're a renters neighborhood most of the properties in here are actually rentals and most of the people that live in the neighborhood are renters it's changed a lot we're getting much closer to 50-50 split but we're not there yet and we have a situation where after depression most of the homes they get divided up we have properties that are not compliant because they're apartments and they've been used for apartments for decades and they're in the middle of what are now single family zoned areas and that happened in the 1990s sometime I'm not sure exactly when maybe somebody does know the city changed and these properties had always been apartments and now their zoning had been changed to reflect single family usage that was back in 1997 1997, okay Katherine maybe you could come up and explain about your house this property is my 1030 West Russell 1030 West Russell and I would normally say we're wanting to keep all the single family properties that we can as single family but this one has been she's going to pass around some pictures of it, it looks like an apartment building, it's been an apartment building a long time and what she's asking her support for is having it instead of a grandfather use as an apartment building she wants to go for changing the zoning permanently to multi family I am Katherine I had this issue arise I've owned this property for 13 years and I got a notice from Code Compliance telling me that I had to change it back to I had 10 days to change it back to single family well this building was erected as an apartment building in 1950 and there's a total of 5 apartments and 5 apartments so I'm trying to get it I've been going through the business development in the San Antonio Development Services and then I talked to council mature media's office they told me that I have to get beacon hills approval in order to present it to city council to change for the permanent zoning of multi family can I clarify it was built as multi family used as multi family it used to be known as the Beverly Arms I know the exact culture and you're just trying to get the zoning change to reflect in the start use of the property exactly I was totally unaware I bought it in 2003 and I had no idea that they could changed it so when I get this letter I was like how can I change it back to single family in 10 days or I'd be fine so that's kind of what I'm going through I've been going I just really want it permanently I don't have to deal with it it's fine it's the main building that has 4 apartments an apartment in the back so what's the zoning that you need MF1 well they were telling me I could view the IGZ or I think it's the multi family 6 is what I need it would be MF25 oh no MF33 yes MF sorry MF33 does anybody have any questions is there another yes now that one is just the apartment in the back okay so in front of your main is your building space which direction is your yes the property on your face so that you're facing the house on your left uh huh is that a single family home no that one it has 3 on the other side is single family single family and then across the street single family how many other multi family buildings are there on your block there's one of you I don't think there's as many I know that there's a lot of you know triplexes and maybe some other fourplexes but I know down the street there are multiple ones this group's away positions we would need to see how it would just be messy oh there's but this only that is different but the idea that there are more buildings on the it's not oh there's only a little studio in the back and there's a picture of it right there okay you got to be registered as a non-conforming news and that's what I'm working on right now but like I said I like to do it have it permanently so they would make you actually registered as a non-conforming news they're not saying to you that already it already enjoys a non-conforming news no they have to go through improve you know get all the information how much did it cost? that was 350 I want to comment Mark what was the recommendation on the stage? we have not really discussed other than this in the past we haven't made a recommendation on this the issue really that we're dealing with is we have hundreds in our neighborhood literally hundreds of properties just like this and if we don't have a really good answer for it that's why we're bringing it up before the group I'd like to make a motion to support is it Turner? is Turner's request to have her property which is historically been operating as a multi-family property that ends up with questions no I'm seconding the motion let's get the motion and we can discuss it that's the motion okay to allow it to be rezoned to correct the request it's historical news alright is there a second? MF-33 can you just have a real quick question on that in the future that structure will be demolished for whatever reason what is the worst case scenario that could replace that as an MF-33? probably what we're going to discuss next at 9.30 it's a calculation based on the size of the lot so what could replace it a five-story building no no okay 33 would be a three-story 44 against four-story do you know how big your lot is I don't know I think it's like so less than a quarter acre so less than a quarter of 33 MF-33 means 33 units per acre but they also have to take into consideration setbacks and so forth so they guarantee 6.3 so 6.3 minus the setback she's got five units on there even if that building would get demolished it doesn't seem to me the way I understand the MF-33 designation that would allow for many more units to potentially want if you say 6.3 alright we have at least one that we're going to talk about next and I probably should talk about that first so we can see what could happen because that is the MF-33 and they are non-conforming their setback is not here at the NTD because if you ever wrote this on that they have more than 90% impervious construction when they're building the single family is 6.3 so I'd like to interject that this is an existing structure as the owner of the building came here in good faith to ask for our support I have a my husband and I own a multi-family building in London-Mistath and I would be horrified just to suddenly find that it was always that it was built as an apartment building in the 20's for the gecko my arms were broken I feel for you in this situation thank you so the motion today is stated right? that's okay I'm sorry I don't have to agree too this probably was built in the 1950 as an apartment building and we're talking about being a store keeping it from their neighborhood that's perfect we should allow that that's what it was originally constructed for it's not somebody taking demolishing 10 houses and building these high-rises and then taking a single family home and turning it into a new place this is a house that was built in the 1950s for this purpose so we have a second do we have more discussion? yeah why was the zoning changed to be human? that's a good question back in 97 it was a family the whole area was changed to a single family all over our area not just being held can't we do as a conditional that way it's pertaining to that structure we're only holding on to that structure it's not for every other building it's just for this building in order to prevent this from being a situation where we built a three-story apartment under in case there's a fire later on which is reasonable is there a way to put a restriction on it that would be agreeable to everyone anybody with zoning want to make a suggestion for something else besides ML 33 that's a pretty elaborate process you could make it MF 25 and that would reduce the number of blocks per acre that would be the other option do you know they may have told you MF 33 because that's maybe what you need to accommodate the five so if you can't accommodate the five on MF 25 then that doesn't work but that would be the other option when do you go are you going to the Panasonic yet or anything that told me that I have to get Beacon Hill's committee you know the Beacon Hill committee blessing that they would hear it and take it that's not true that's what they told me he's asking you to be nice and you're doing the right thing but we don't need our permission if a zoning will ask you have you reached out to the name of it what did they say and they'll take that into account so they said that once they get that then they'll take it in front of the city council they'll get that can we vote is that your discussion call for a question call for the call for a question can we vote all in favor of changing the new supporting rezoning with conditional or not mm33 mm33 okay now we're on to motion carries next we're on to property of 930 west crepe and they've just been an awful lot of you know messages on facebook all the place about this one I don't hardly know where to begin except yes I just start a minute ago yes who's they the owner I know what are we talking about 930 west crepe it is a vacant lot a vacant lot and it's zone im at 33 it's a small vacant lot and they are in the process of building six units of which it says each will be individually sold and owned individually and so they are separating the foundation of the six individual spots okay that's not exactly what I heard this morning when it went down to government applications yeah I'm not sure exactly I think what we're doing right now is we're going to get as much information as we can about it but I've heard different things from last week to this week well I might have looked at the foundation today oh yeah I saw that too they've got a bunch of problems and people who have noticed the construction they've lit up our facebook page and answers to people that have questions so if you have a question about it please ask I have a question it seems to me like we're at the point where there's nothing that can be done at this point they're just moving forward with the construction on it and we're out there the entire weekend is working on it what are the issues I just wanted to you were saying it lit up on the facebook how to see that discussion so let me give you an overview of the attic and the small they've taken a small lot and they've divided it into thirds from the street and on the right hand third which is three feet off the property line is a row of three units the middle third three feet off the side property line and it's about five feet off of the alley's property line the middle third is going to be the driveway and the left hand third is another three units which are also three foot off of the side property line now this driveway when I have stepped it off it's no more than 20 feet off so if they are going to put barrages on the first floor they're going to have very small cars and very good drivers to make a sharp 90 degree turn without knocking down the buildings it is way too small what they're trying to do and my understanding is that a lot of people were wondering about it being three stories high which is a lot different than most of the properties in there which are single family and one story high yes so is it zoned properly yes it's zoned MF33 but there are some issues with the property because if they are going to sell them as single units my understanding from talking to the city the zoning department this morning is that because this is kind of like where they're building is a loophole in the writing of the zoning it's sort of a little ambiguous but it allows them to build the six units they can do that they can build them three feet or three stories high but they have planted it as one property so that means they only get one meter so now what they're talking about is you're like a condo development where everybody is sharing the utilities that sounds a little awkward yes on March 17 the electrical review was waived in CPS Energy they waived $1 individual meter per unit located at HUN then I was lied to at developmental services and by the person that's in charge so that's confusing this morning if I could add a little bit more to this it's well it's a multi-family building that's going in it is six cabins being put on this one piece of property that allows what everyone would otherwise expect to be a six unit apartment complex but these are distinct individual essentially cabins the three stories high these cabins will not own the land because the land has not been divided into six right so how can it be multi-family if you've got individuals it can be multi-family selling them individually is problematic if the land isn't flat unless they come back in later I have a feeling they're going to come back in later and bring flat yes Jack Martin said it sounds like they're trying to shoe mark a lot of the units into one small area here would you please tell us what are tonight what our options are we don't nobody's presented anything to the neighborhood association about this property we've had no contact with the owners we really the only thing we're responding to right now is the people asking questions about it and so we're trying to answer the few questions we can answer but to be honest we are finding out things differently every day so one of the first problems one of the first problems we witnessed is that there here's to be an inbound setback it appears to be too close to the street has anyone looked into that? we sent a code enforcement person out there they measured it and apparently it is okay it's within five feet of the average for the setbacks so they're considering that as far as the side setbacks go they're looking into that they were looking into it today because it should be five feet not three feet and what about the rear setback the rear setback the side rear setbacks have to be appropriate as well and three feet is not appropriate in the very beginning there used to be two large precontries two heritage size huge heritage precontries and those were illegally cut down without any permits so they're not here in good faith is what I'm saying on this and has anyone seen the actual plans for what's happening? no I don't think anybody's seen the actual plans for this and so my concern is if the houses if there's a central driveway each unit is facing the center is that going against NCD standards? we don't know what the situation is for parking yet well no I know which way they're facing each unit apparently what they're going to do is they're going to put a little porch off to the street side for each one of these and the person that told me that also told me that they probably only get one single meter so I don't trust any of that and is it to get a permit for in an NCD neighborhood or district does it not have to go through the neighborhood association? no it does not normally we get NCD is part of the city permitting process so it's the city you go to pull a permit it comes up this is in an NCD and then there's a review on there and if you go on the development services website under permitting you can put in the address it will bring up the permit number and then you can click on there for comments and you will see the different categories that get reviewed plumbing electrical foundation and there's one for neighborhood and it will give you comments that the planner would have made based on their plans if they saw anything that was non-compliant so you have to do this you have to adjust that you need to come back to us with drawings for this and then if they do all of that then under our second review it may get approved it may get denied again and there may be additional comments that is all visible on the development services website under their permit the plans are not the plans are considered patented we went through this when we were trying to see plans for strikes you have to request those through an open records request and then you have to go downtown to view them on a computer because they're done now digitally you can't copy them you can't take photographs of them you can make notes unfortunately we need to wrap this up I guess we're going to have to trust the zoning to make some decisions on this but to be honest, we don't know enough about it if you have questions see me after the meeting this might be one when we have to go downtown to ask them yeah I did that this morning I'll ignore it I'll be there tomorrow morning thank you Mark I wish you didn't say that every meeting was this much fun we never get into the weeds like this it's just they're piling up so fast that zoning hasn't had a chance so please thank you for your patience I know that they're we're going to forgo committee reports tonight because we're just out of time but we don't meet next month we'll meet again in August it'll be in the newsletter where we meet I think there was some elected officials that wanted to say good night did anybody needed to say good night but it is thank you so much for your patience good night and thank you for coming