 I'll give you. Good evening, good day, and good morning, depending in which time zone you are. I see that many of you are already connected, and I would like to welcome all of you. This is a webinar which will be for at least one hour, and the topic of this webinar is Global Sanitation Graduate School. We have assembled, I think, a very interesting program for us. But before going into the quick overview of the program, I would like to introduce today's colleagues, which are speakers in the studio. And the studio today is at three different places. The first place is Seattle. In Seattle, we have Dr. Roshan Sreshta from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, a deputy director in the foundation and the co-founder of Global Sanitation Graduate School. Hello. Thank you, Roshan. Thank you, Roshan. Then we have also a very important person, and that is Ms. Vika Maulani Fatimah. It is our alumna from the GSGS school, and she is at Institute of Technology in Bandung in Indonesia. Hi, Vika. And the person who is responsible for the organization and the technical parts of this webinar is the Secretary of Organization, Committee of the Symposium, Jasper Hondeling. So Jasper will manage the webinar of the day. So here is the Jasper. So the structure is relatively simple. We made it quite straightforward. We spent quite some efforts in last days to prepare four different videos, and we will run these videos in a sequence. The first video will be about an introduction to the Global Sanitation Graduate School. And since we cannot meet, unfortunately, together, we decided to show you a video of a few months ago where we could meet in Sri Lanka, and that video is absolutely up to date. So the first video will be about 12 minutes. After that, we prepared a short six-minute overview of the history of the Global Sanitation Graduate School. That video will be followed by the third contribution from 15 lead partners from the Graduate School. They will represent in total 50 universities, and you will hear about that more. And of course, the last but not the least are the beneficiaries of the program, and we selected two students who completed the program last year, and the two training of trainers, participants, and Vika is one of them, and she is with us in the studio. So we will watch together these videos for about 35 minutes. During this period, you will be able to post questions or comments on the right hand of this screen that you see. I see already loads of people logged in and saying hello. So please, if you have a comment or questions, which is even better, then post your questions there while the videos are running. So you have about 35 minutes to do that, and then I will be screening these videos together with my colleagues, or these messages together with my colleagues, and then we will tackle and address one by one. If we don't have enough questions, then we will continue that period until the end of this program. If we have enough questions, then probably we will have to stop taking more questions and deal with the questions which are there. So I would say focus on the video first, and if you have questions, please post them in a chat. Please don't forget to put next to the question also first the person to which the question is addressed. Is it Roshan, or Vika, or myself, or some other partner from the consortium that we will try to answer on there we have. And if you experience any technical difficulties, which hopefully there will be no difficulties, please put it in a chat and then Jasper will take care of it and hopefully solve the problem as we talk. So not to waste more time. I would like to ask Jasper to start with the first video. Jasper, please. It is normal that there is a little delay between start and the picture of the video. Speaking of cooperation, I would like to invite now also two members of IWA that epitomize cooperation and capacity development, which is also one of the key points of the association. So I would like to start by inviting Professor Damir Parajnovic from IOG Delft Institute of Water Education. Professor Damir directs the Global Sanitation Graduate School, which is a school that is forming many, many, many champions for sanitation and development in the water sector. He has over three decades of experience in the sanitary section. He's an IWA Fellow and he won recently an IWA Publishing Award last year in Tokyo. And I would also like to invite on stage Dr. Roshan Shrestha. Dr. Roshan, also a member of the association, Deputy Director in the Global Growth Opportunities Division of the Will and Melinda Gates Foundation. Dr. Roshan does quite a lot of work in the area of water sanitation and hygiene, leading the urban sanitation market initiatives and is working particularly towards achieving STGs, STG 6.2, particularly the tension and doing a lot of work in South and Southeast Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa. Professor Damir, Dr. Roshan, please. Salute to Lit. Thank you IWA colleague to give us opportunity to talk about what we are doing on this capacity building domain. When we work in this sector, like the when I joined the foundation and then since last six, seven years, we're deeply involved in the policy advocacy and demonstration of the non-CEO scientists and because of management, then what we realized that there's no people who really can implement. There's no professional who can really expand the work because there's money like coming in. There are a lot of government agencies that are now started to engage in the non-CEO scientists and because of management, but we can't really find a professional. And then at a time, then Damir and the IHE team, they were working with us and the running master's program on water and wastewater management program, which was again the not course like the non-CEO sanitation. Then I asked Damir what to do Damir, we need people, how to include our people. Then he said, okay, let's start the online courses. We did online courses, but that course not really enough because still the online course is not really perfect to bring the real professional. Then I said Damir, let's do it in some different way. Then what to do? Let's do one very interesting program courses on the non-CEO scientists and focus on non-CEO scientists so that we can increase more professions. We need what we want to have only one year program. We should really cut down, not 18 months, one year. We need to produce more people. And three years back Damir came up with the Damir and IHC team come up with the new course, that new, totally new course on sanitation. And he started the course, they started course in IHC. Then in one course they can generate actually mean, I mean not more than 15, 20 people per year. And what we need people quite a lot, what to do? Then we decided, okay, now let's expand these courses not only in IHC because people cannot really come only to do study. Then we need to expand this course in developing world that our colleague, one of the panelists also talked about, we need to bring the big developing world professionals and university to run this program. Then we have now quite a lot of university coming in this couple of years of time, in these three years of time, we have now quite a lot of our university professionals are ready to run the program. And these last two days, all the university partners are here. I salute to the old university professors who are coming here from 55, 50 universities. And they were working very hard in the last two days and they come up with very good plans. I'm sure in a couple of years we'll have a lot of thousands of professionals will generate. I'd like to request all my university partners to raise their hand or stand up so that all people will all understand who are they and how they are coming here. Damit. Thank you very much, Roshan, for these kind words. And thanks to IWA for recognizing the power behind this new organization called Global Sanitation Graduate School. I would like also to thank the Gates Foundation for recognizing our institution, IGDELFT, as a partner for developing capacity building in sanitation sector. And as we said, we heard already that we are alone, we cannot do much. So we teamed up with at this moment 53 institutions who are present here. 97 people from the school are present at this conference and we use the conference venue also to conduct our strategic summit. And I will tell a bit more about that in a moment. We are coming, we are represented here by 27 countries. So this new program on its master in sanitation has been developed by more than 150 world recognized people, professionals in the sanitation sector. We started the program, we first had to accredited program in the Dutch educational system. It has been accredited as any other program in the Netherlands at that level and has been implemented from April last year. This year we yield first generation of sanitation champions as we call them and we are now running the second year. However, as we heard from Roshan, that's not enough. How many people is enough? So we need to educate thousands of new people, thousands of new professionals, who will champion the activities which lead to achievement of millennium development goals. We also realize that it's not only enough to do post-graduate courses, we are also developing online courses to reach more people. We are also developing some kind of in between product which is called Graduate Professional Diploma Program which is a professional degree or certificate which will help lots of professionals working in water and sewage corporations and other places to certify their knowledge and to get equipped for very challenging tasks which are in front of us. We have now, as you can see on the slide behind, focused on South Saharan Africa and South Asia which is a region that needs development the most which doesn't mean that other regions have enough capacity. The studies of UNESCO and UN agencies show that the capacity in the world is insufficient and even in the countries where there is a capacity it's not spread in a way that we want. So we are now focusing, our partners are presented in the blue dots and you can see where the focus is. However, the Graduate School provoked so much interest. We got so much new request of new partners to come in and here are also representatives from other regions. We have had meetings as we call them expansion partners who are coming from Russia, China, Hong Kong, Uruguay, Argentina, Mexico, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Egypt and we are expecting more and more interest. So the Global Sanitation Graduate School is becoming really global and it is already global. So what we have achieved in this Congress was a really a critical milestone in the development of this global framework and what is important that we do it together, that we develop curriculas together and that we transfer the Delft-based program into these universities and they are free to adapt these programs into their circumstances. They are free to expand the program, to shorten the program, to Indianize it, to Africanize it, whatever, just to get new people coming in. There was a great enthusiasm, as they call it, level of happiness increased dramatically in that environment and I hope that that energy that we are radiating across this building will be felt for a long time. The Graduate School will only increase in size and we are expecting tremendous developments in coming years. For us it's important, this is our goal, this is not a project goal that we are running now, we are far beyond the project level at this moment. We want by 2030 to train more than 10,000 professionals in that field by more than 100 universities. So this is our ambition, ambition is possible. For that we need to work together, we need to get more partners, we need to mobilize funds for the operations of this Graduate School and I hope that we will find additional institutions interested to help us with that and I'm quite confident in that. More information for you who didn't hear about that, you will find on this website, this is a website on which we place materials, information of the courses and programs of all members of the Graduate School. This is very enthusiastic and big website. On that website you can also find information about alumni, the people who graduated from this school and you can contact these people if you have a project in their countries, knowing that they are educated by this institution that we are seeing growing and becoming mature. And the last slide, this is a moment where our happiness of April this year, this is the first generation, this is the first 15 students from this 10,000 that we are expecting to see in the next coming 10 years. Thank you very much. So welcome back to studio. So I hope that you enjoyed that atmosphere of the conference that we don't have now but that was also the meaning that to put us in that environment so that we can at least feel that we are all together. So please start with your questions. I see that some questions are pouring in, so that's good. I will make note of them and we will answer to them a little bit later. So I would like to introduce now a second video which is a very short video of six and a half minutes on the history of the Global Sanitation Graduate School and the results that we have achieved so far. Jasper, please. It all started in 2010. During the Stockholm Water Week, when IG Delft and Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation met for the first time. From that moment on, the lasting partnership was born. Soon after, the first large capacity development program was established with eight partners and IG Delft, formerly known as UNESCO IG as DELETE, involving more than 70 project members from Sub-Saharan Africa, South-East Asia and Latin America. The eight-year-long program included more than 130 years of individual research that entailed 20 PhD fellows, five postdoctoral researchers, and 63 master students in the Netherlands, Ghana, Thailand, and Colombia. With project funds, we refurbished sanitary engineering laboratories of all partners in the project, built number of experimental units for applied research at each partner university, and tested several prototypes in the field conditions and filed for patents. Results of the project have been published in 65 journal papers, 18 PhD and 58 MSc thesis, and several reports. The new educational product was launched. The post-graduate professional diploma program, popularly called GPDP, that has been followed by 150 professionals from 50 countries so far. A new online course on vehicles large management was jointly developed and simultaneously implemented by six partners. The course so far attracted almost 1,000 participants. A yearly Best Sanitary Engineering and Sanitation MSc Award has been established since 2013. Two trend-setting books were published by IWA Publishing and both are open access, including the associated online courses. And the Global Vehicles Large Management Eye Learning Alliance was established in 2015, a platform that preceded the Global Sanitation Graduate School. Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation continued support, enabled us to reach another important milestone in the development of the GSGS. Namely, a new master in Sanitation program was established in April 2018. The curriculum was developed as a part of international cooperation, including more than 200 experts. More than 1,800 individuals from 92 countries applied. The first batch of 15 graduates from this multidisciplinary program earned their degree in April 2019. The MSc Sanitation program is dealt base with research work abroad, with one of the GSGS partners and has secured so far scholarships for 55 students. The project also included preparation of dozens of case studies in sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia, and implementation of 16 courses during which more than 300 professionals have been trained on Vehicles Large Management. A new Vehicles Large Laboratory at IGDELT has been constructed and inaugurated in November 2018, and in about the same time, we initiated the partnership of Vehicles Large Laboratories around the world with goal to standardize, share and implement the Vehicles Large Analysis and knowledge in a cooperative fashion. The first result of this partnership is the book entitled Methods for Vehicles Large Analysis that will be published in September 2020 and is open access. And we also published a book on Sanitation Innovation. The first example of the book was given to Mr. Bill Gates. The success of Master of Science in Sanitation program in DELT brought us to the idea of reaching more sanitation professionals by transferring this program to universities in Africa, Asia and Latin America. The idea that instigated the launch of the Global Sanitation Graduate School. The Global Sanitation Graduate School has been operated since 2017 and has grown into a truly global capacity development instrument for graduate and postgraduate education in the field of city-wide inclusive sanitation. The DELT-based curriculum is currently being implemented at 40 universities while there are ongoing activities for the expansion to additional 10 universities in 2020. The target of the program is to educate 500 MSc students, 100 GPDP professionals and at least 400 professionals will be reached by online training. Furthermore, a significant impact will be achieved when the DELT-based program becomes available in an online mode in 2021 when in total 15 online courses will become available as open access. The GSGS has its own resourceful website that also includes information on GSGS alumni. Valorization of the efforts of the GSGS is very important to us. Therefore, we are looking forward to the results of the external independent survey on the impact of the GSGS with particular focus on alumni and other beneficiaries of our capacity-building activities. And finally, our goal is to train at least 10,000 professionals by more than 100 institutions by the year 2030. Welcome back again. I hope that we all realize how difficult it is to put 10 years of work into 6 years of video, but we succeeded somehow. Now, the most exciting part of the story is coming. We have now asked 15 partners of the Global Sanitation Graduate School to send us very short videos about their statements that represent the current membership of more than 50 partners in this organization. Jasper, please. We have 10 years left to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals and particularly the GSGS. Through the Global Sanitation Graduate School program here in South Africa, we have more new generation of water and sanitation experts that are going to bring innovation and at the same time share our passion in education in the field. And together, we are going to overcome the Sanitation Challenge both locally and locally. We have studied our program since August 2019. GSGS enriches our course material and gives more experience for the student. And because of the GSGS, we have the opportunities for participants from all cities in Indonesia, both men and women, to learn about sanitation. At the ATV, we have the Global Sanitation Graduate School for many years. We develop the course, we develop many kind of research in relation to the sanitation. And of course, we would like to have more and more gender into the sanitation. For that, we have many of the students in the program and also working in the field, so that we would like to bring more students from the developing country to study at the ATV to do the research and then having the social impacts in the field. Our program will start in September. The plus of this program is that it will be fully delivered in French to increase the number of highly qualified sanitation professionals in the African-French-speaking countries in West Africa, in Central Africa, and in the Indian Ocean. Kathmandu University School of Engineering has started Global Sanitation Graduate School project in collaboration with Trivon University and Pokhara University in Nepal. Our main target is to learn the three programs basically, the master's program in Sanitation, online courses and graduate program diploma professional courses. This being run at the university with the maximum impact of training the professionals working in the Sanitation sectors to come up and give them with the knowledge that could be adapted in the local conditions. Thank you. Global Sanitation Graduate School will enhance our postgraduate training to Sanitation practitioners across various specialties. Our target by 2023 is to have 54 MSc degrees 40 postgraduate diplomas and over 100 certificates awarded to professionals dedicated to making an impact in non-sward sanitation. I am doing master's in Sanitation at the University of West Africa. I am very thankful that there has been this window to allow us to come in Sanitation because it is providing us me in particular with an opportunity to master skills. We need to increase skills and knowledge in terms of helping community in coming up with practical center. GSGS is a huge international platform which has given us the opportunity to interact and coordinate and get the support of the lead experts in the non-sward sanitation. Manipal University, Jaipur is the pioneer institution in India which has been focusing on non-sward sanitation education. Till now, more than 500 students have already cleared online course in non-sward sanitation and we are soon starting master's in non-sward sanitation from this July 2020. Thank you. Global sanitation prepares you for the real world. We started a new program in Sanitation, Science, Technology and Management. This is an interdisciplinary program focusing towards capacity building in the area of non-sward sanitation. Thanks to GSGS we accelerated our vision of producing sanitation professionals. In January, we enrolled 26 women with 19 men for the master's program. Our next cohort of 5 students is expected in September 2020 if that slot is reserved for women. Our BSC program will be launched in May 2021. We are currently constructing an FSM lab to cater for the training needs of these students. We aspire to produce 200 MSc graduates by the year 2022. GSGS helps us to think about sanitation in a practical way. I love to think about the governance, respect, financial aspects, of sanitation, rather than only emphasizing on making safety tank or sewerage system. Or merely think about the technical aspects of sanitation. I would give these partners who has started the master's program after the age who will make around 100 professional at different levels who can serve Bangladesh and the world as well. And I believe they can contribute to ensure the better living of the inhabitants of the world. Thank you. GSGS provides access to cutting edge global expertise for our ongoing master's courses and action research activities in urban sanitation. We are excited to build capacities of young professionals, master's students and aspiring urban wash specialists ready to embark on working with communities, implementers and action researchers. GSGS means a lot to the Zambian community. It has enabled us to start capacity building in sanitation. Currently, we have over 18 students that have been enrolled in the Masters of Science in Sanitation. We have six female students and then we hope to train more students. But this is a very good opportunity and impact to the Zambian community. Thank you. For us, GSGS is a learning platform which enables us to increase in updates and knowledge for sanitation professionals. Because of GSGS, we are now the world world. We are targeting long-sleeved sanitation professionals and we intend to start our program by the beginning of next year. GSGS model is very smart because educational programs are developed by the best who can do it and delivery is done by locals who know the context. We personally enjoy the synergy of networking projects and being a partner in GSGS network gives us extra energy and motivation. By acting locally, we make all together a global impact and the mission of GSGS in Russia and their CIS countries is to bring local water professionals into the global community. So, respected audience, we are almost there. The last video is actually the most important one. It's about beneficiaries of this program and we have here pleasure to show our alumni. Jasper, please. It has been one year now since I left IHE I started MSC in sanitation. That was a perfect opportunity which I got because I am now realizing that most of the things which I learned are now applicable in the field. I will make reference to the behavior change model which is the core the behavior change model which is the core in terms of the work I am doing here as the C4D in knowledge management specialist all the behavior change theories all the behavior change models how to do formative research at the lecture I got from the founder of COTS I am finding everything very applicable because here in Pakistan we are implementing what is called Pakistan approaches to total sanitation which aims to eliminate open defecation since we have over 20 million people defecating in the bush I also learned a lot from the finance module and I am applying all those things which I learned in the finance module in nurturing and mentoring some youth groups whom we are working with under the generation unlimited youth challenge one group from Pakistan which won the global level and I am providing the technical expertise and mentoring using the skills and knowledge I got from IHM the images wash images sanitation module is one important module which I am making use of here as you know we are currently responding to COVID-19 and I am coordinating with my field colleagues implementing partners my superiors in leading in the IPC that's infection prevention and control and watch component of the COVID-19 response I also want to make reference to the experience I got starting at IHM where I met diverse people from different countries with different cultures and that taught me to appreciate people from different cultures appreciate different religion and I am seeing that helpful here in Asia coming from Africa it was easy for me to adapt to the setting in Asia thank you just after completion of my MSI Sanitation at IHM I made a tremendous progress in my career as I joined UC-Lagonstown Urban Water and Sanitation project as a Sanitation teacher I and my team had the responsibility to develop Sanitation for five major cities and support the utility and its implementation since one year after my graduation I have used the knowledge and skill I have in my MSI Sanitation not only the course part but also the research and the field work has been a great experience to me and is highly helpful in my career as you are now in the occasion of IHM I wish you all thank you Hello everyone, I am Prajakta Patil I am doing PhD in West Water Treatment at Bitspilani Goa Campus India I got an opportunity to join Global Sanitation Graduate School in first year of my PhD I joined IHM in June 2018 as a TOD in Sanitation as a TOD we had a role to transfer the MSI in Sanitation program from IHM to our respective universities and we attended the full program along with the MSI Sanitation student and because of this we got to know how the course is designed what are the study materials how it is getting delivered and evaluated but to transfer the program only study material is not enough so we had a UTQ program also that is University Teaching Qualification because of this we got to know how to design the course how it should be delivered and what are the active learning and teaching techniques and it really helped us in the transfer of the Sanitation program to our university and the models we attended there we got a GPDP diploma for that so in the career perspective it was a really good experience and after the completion of the program we transferred the program to our university so in BITS Pilani Egoa campus we have already started the course and we are also transferring the course to our other campuses and now we have our own FECALSLA's laboratory so this program a TOT program has helped us a lot in capacity building and as we know that women are responsible traditionally responsible for the management of water supply sanitation and health and I can say because of this program it has become our professional so it is increasing this program is increasing professionally in sanitation and I am really thankful to GSGS thank you my name is Wika TOT from ITV Indonesia the TOT were initially sent to DELF to be able to absorb the material that is in the master program of sanitation and IIT DELF and then we will have to evaluate it and then we adopt it and then we will transfer it back to our own MSc program in our university back in our own country while we were there in the same class with the MSc students from IIT DELF sanitation master program and we are put there to be able to learn the material directly from the teachers from the lecturers that are being invited by the program and then we go through the assignments and most importantly we interact with each other the composition of the sanitation class thus making the dynamic of the class very much unique and is very cohesive for our overall learning experience other than being put in the class we also have to be put in a UTK classes the university teaching qualification classes within the classes we are taught to design a good new learning objectives and also classes and design good sessions to make sure that we improve the efficiency of deliverables of our materials the UTK classes taught us new more flexible method to teach the students and try to improve from the old teaching which may hamper the deliverables of the material being put through all those things the TOT also gained a diploma called a graduate professional diploma because in the very beginning we were registered in a GPDP program or a graduate professional diploma program in the end we are given a GPD certificate which says that all the TOT except the diploma are professional in the sanitation field those are the experiences I gained by being a TOT from my university I hope in the future the GSGS program can grow and give more opportunities for professionals in the sanitation program be it from the GPDP program or from the MSc program by this video at the end we come to the end of the presentations and this is the time for questions so for those who joined us a little bit later I just want to repeat that with us we have in Seattle Dr. Roshan Shrestha deputy director in the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and co-founder of Global Sanitation Graduate School and we have ladies that you just saw on the video Vika Fatima from the Institute of Technology in Indonesia and myself, Damir Berjanovich I am a facilitator of this session I would like to start with the questions as they actually came up into our chats section and we have a question for Roshan the question comes from Syed about women in the Graduate School what is the strategy to incorporate more women with the Global Sanitation Graduate School to increase the women's sanitation experts in both Asia and Africa do you have any special consideration to that I think Roshan will answer this question Thank you Damir and thank you Nadim for asking this very important question certainly gender is one of our very much priority agenda to increase number of professionals how can we increase more women in this sector so one of the criteria is of course when the scholarship program that started in IAC they have to have 50% women to be joined in the program and other issue is also we have also established kind of the scholarship program for women I think Damir already has announced that in some university as well in other university as well and other interesting support we have developed in this grant was to create a kind of special fund to support women professionals who study this program for example in IAC program when the women are admitted and if they need some support because of the lack of support if they can't join especially in the family support then there is a provision to provide that support for example last year this year I think Damir can tell about this year last year I think there was one student who got pregnant and then she went back for delivery and then she continued the course again and I think her name was Amy and the interesting thing is Amy also her thesis what she pursued that thesis even got the highest score and she got award so this is one of the big problem in most of the university that when women got delivery or pregnancy problem then they have to leave the courses and see something has arranged very nicely and beside that IAC has also planned special online course and gender and gender and all those things are there so we definitely like to do much more work on this we really want to get your advice and support how should we really deliver participation in the program Thank you very much I can't add anything to that so I think the question is fully answered the next one is from Ben Bella and it's for me is the Global Sanitation Graduate Program for only Masters or even PhDs available the answer is that at this moment we have a tree group of products that are included in the Global Sanitation Graduate School that's a master program, master of science program so postgraduate level the second group is a professional diploma program and the third are online courses and short courses at this moment the Graduate School does not take into account PhD studies but it doesn't mean that we will not expand maybe in the future also more into a fundamental and scientific but also in a way applied research the next question is from Alodin who asks probably our alumni Vika about how about developing offering a course focusing on hygiene and public health I must say that we do have that course as a part of the program and it is being transferred also to all partners but maybe Vika can share her experiences being a subject to delivery of this course, Vika Yes, I would like to confirm that in the module of IHE that IHE delivers to us there is specifically a modules on public health it's sanitation and public health and in my experience in both obtaining modules and delivering it there are mainly two points that I gain a lot. The first one when I obtain it is that it is good to know that the students are being put through good steps towards the knowledge in which the students are being introduced first to the terminologies in public health such as the pathogens the pathways and then we are put through the lessons on to the assessment of those pathogens in the environment and then after that after we know the cost and the pathway we learn how to end the pathway so in this public health and hygiene promotion classes we not only talk about the theory of the pathogens and the pathway but also learn how to cut it and in between those classes we have workshops so that we will have real life study cases which will improve even more to the experience of the learning because then the students are exposed to the real cases and the real situations in the field and that is also what we implement here in Indonesia we try to incorporate as many real study cases as possible and that will be what I suggest to to all of my colleagues here who is also going to deliver the program to incorporate as many real study cases as possible so that even probably the new B who is not professionally professional or experts in sanitation field follow the lessons as well Thank you very much Vika, I think your answer was very convincing I would move to another one the next one is I hope it's from Eshwer I hope these sanitation courses are also made to promote sanitation practices which can be managed within limited water availability as in arid and semi arid regions water is limited for even drinking needs what do you say now I would say that our program which has been designed for the global audience in Delft takes into account all kind of conditions which are also applicable in water rich area but also in water poor area or water scarce area however we expect that when we transfer this program at other universities that these universities will take care of the local conditions and local regional circumstances so we expect that in such regions there will be more attention for arid and semi arid regions and for those who don't experience such conditions they will adapt courses to their conditions national or regional the next question is from Syed again do you have any follow up mechanism after students are graduated to make sure they are actually working in the field now we are developing different mechanisms we already have a mechanism which is incorporated in our system within IG but this is only for IG alumni within the graduate school we have another mechanism a parallel mechanism which takes care of all alumni so within the website that we have now developed and which is already in place www.sanitationeducation.org you will find a quite big alumni section and it has also been presented in shortly in the presentation we are also at this moment actually the Gates Foundation is spearheading that development there is evaluation of the impact of our alumni where many aspects of the career developments will be taken into account both on the side of the alumni but also on the side of demand so not only from supply but also from demand which are potential employers this study will be ready in a few weeks and we will be very happy to share it with you next question is for Roshan from Peter from Kenya are there possibilities to give scholarships to the first few cohorts of the MSc participants in the expansion partner institutions just to explain expansion partner institutions are new partners coming into the network who don't have that privilege to be financed from a funds that we have already secured I think this can give a great impetus to the expansion of the MSc sanitation program Roshan would you be ready to answer this question yes thank you so much this is a very good question and I'm asking by many other college graduates the same question our idea was you know the not only the alumni who is running behind this kind of program so our job is to show the path and then the development kind of the model and that will be replicated by scale by the other country and our resources are limited so what we are now doing here is we are working with the different development partners and many development partners they are very very much they like this program and I'm sure development partners are will be willing to support that if the course is really studied in their program country I can see this kind of proactiveness depends upon the how much the university are really is going to proactive and how much the anchor partner is going to proactive for that so we are willing to support them to develop their capacity to do that and we are also working together with development partners going there and talking about this course and they really appreciate that so that's the way I think the other development partner will come and provide scholarship for example in A2I Burkina and professor from A2I are very very much actively engaged in that and I just saw that in chat room here like the professor was talking about in Nepal they are also able to check their scholarship from different development partners and other good news is recently World Bank has recognized this program as one of the innovative program in the science and sector and they are willing to expand their scholarship program for them and for this course as well we need to also tap that resources not only in ISC also in other development countries university like your university or partner university to be able to access that that scholarship funding from those institutions Thank you Roshan Thank you Roshan very much I think you also partially answered another comment or question from professor Shrestha from Kathmandu University and the part which is actually not only question to us is the question to entire partnership is there any such experiences in other institutions as well and experiences are about other institutions being interested to support the particular universities or cluster of universities I know we cannot contact now all our partners they are present I think in the chat area so they can answer in the chat section but I'm sure that each of the clusters are really busy with the acquisition of funds regardless of the support that they got through the graduate school because that support is a temporary and the graduate school is growing and has even more needs as Roshan said this is just a starting framework and we are working really hard to make a graduate school self-sustainable this moment this is not our priority at this moment because we still have a couple of years to realize all activities that we want but very soon we will be embarking on our very serious and ambitious plan that will engage all our partners within the network and within the graduate school but also within the network around the graduate school including international funding organizations, banks, governments private sector and so on so lots of work in front of us we started a couple of years ago we are in the middle of it so it's still work to be done but we do it in phases not everything can be done at once some conditions have to be matured enough to create another opportunities so we do it in a very organized and carefully scheduled way yes, Bayero is asking in addition to partner universities do you have collaborations with private sectors and civil societies NGOs and so on they do a lot of projects in developing countries and they could engage the students and graduate directly good news Bayero is that we do that and we will do it even more in the future we do have inter-corporation between partners so students from one university can go to another university students from university from Russia can our partner in South Africa receive their students and so on so that will be going big time outside of universities we do have really good cooperation with civil societies with NGOs with everybody who is involved in the citation we all our students from Delft and we have so far 25 of them they all have done their theses in Netherlands, in Asia, in Africa hosted by either partner universities or by NGOs water and sewage companies ministries and other stakeholders in the field so this is the way we want to have it we want that our master program is applied it's practical and that professionals enjoy doing it at different places we have lots of cases where the African students went to study in Asia twice versa so this is really cross-fertilization and brings another dimension to the profile of our alumni the next one is do students have to spend any international internship program in the industry sectors yes, that's the same answer that I already provided the industry will be involved more and more and just to tell you that of our students they come from the industry themselves so it is very normal that their research is related to what they do and often they also go to their own country and do topics which are really locally relevant they are well trained in the Netherlands and then they can perform all kind of activities in the field Professor Dami some organization that was the question that I have answered already and there is a question on I lost it a little bit but it was interesting just let me check I just have to scroll through the list scaling up the course from Bipin to Vika what are the key challenges and opportunities you have been facing to scale up the course in Indonesia what do you see the role of the government of Indonesia to scale up this course Vika probably you can answer the first one much better than the second one but let's try our master program our master program called Water and Sanitation Infrastructure Management in ITB have existed since 2012 and then through the GSGS we embed the curriculum to our program and of course to scale up the GSGS itself the key challenges is actually the intake and the promotion since it's pretty much new but the opportunities fortunately cover up our key challenges and it may be our milestone to actually achieve our goal our opportunities have from inside and from outside from inside it's from our own university we have an undergraduate program it's basically Sanitary Engineering but the undergraduate program name is Environmental Infrastructure Engineering and but as I said the curriculum is pretty much Sanitary Engineering and that's from inside so we have a fast track program the last year of the undergraduate program they can already take the master program modules so that they can graduate after they graduate from their undergraduate program they only need to continue another one year until they can achieve half and get their master degree and then from the external opportunity we have Indonesia focus of Sanitation Improvement which is shown in our long-term plan national long-term plan and the NGOs and also the governments are sending people to learn sanitation and water actually even deeper and thus they send people to our program and as for the second question the role of the government as I said earlier they send students to our program and also they can be they usually be our periodically guest lecturers and also guest speakers because we in such short terms we have already done two seminars or workshops the first one being a webinar which you can see in our GSGS Indonesia YouTube channel it's a two hours webinar which we have a government as one of the guest speakers so really incorporating NGOs and government is the key opportunity and your key milestone in scaling up in your own country they will be really helping because they will also help not only to the academic state but also to the implementation state as they will receive our great weeks also that will be all done, thank you thank you Ika for your very very resourceful answer I have a question from Mingma that was the question that I missed on my list, but it was on top of my list so I couldn't see it the question is how does IEG ensure that the GSGS partners deliver courses of the same as IEG what are some of the checks considered now Mingma I can reassure you that IEG developed developed the courses of the highest quality we could develop together with entire community that helped us in that and we are very happy with that now to ensure that other partners deliver the same standard I would say that our partners might in many aspects will deliver a higher standard that we do because they are relevant in their own environments they are very knowledgeable and for many aspects they have so many experience so I have no worries about this and actually the standard of IEG is not a benchmark we let all partners to deliver their own quality assurance methods these are very serious partners they deliver postgraduate education for decades and they have thousands of students so we fully believe the systems which are already in place with our partners our only check is if I can call it check is that certain percentage of the program that we developed in Delft is incorporated in their own program and the rest we trust our academic partners fully now I think let me just check because we are already 5 minutes beyond our scheduled time we can stay a few more minutes that's not a problem we will not be kicked out automatically and there is a question from from Nemanja and Nemanja is asking how far the Gaze Foundation is interested in developments in the drinking water and which area I would say this is a program on non sewer sanitation but sanitation without water you cannot separate that it is a part of it so I would talk more or likely more about the wash than about the drinking water but I think it was a question to Roshan so Roshan please answer if you can thank you Damir I already put my note under my chat room as well because of course we are not directly engaging the water and drinking water sector but we believe that improving sanitation means we will be improving quality of the water water resource as well there is a direct connection between that because there are a lot of programs going and a lot of courses are going on on drinking water so the thing that what we are doing is totally new so we are engaged now on sanitation and we all know that sanitation is lying much much far far behind in in terms of the water resource management as well thank you Roshan very much Nemanja is our colleague so we can continue discussion anytime Suman Suman has a question Damir do you have any plan to start quarterly or be monthly newsletter of GSGS activities across partner universities it could be a good way to stay updated and motivated through information from all partners I will be glad to contribute to that thank you thank you Suman for that we do have these plans to share very very fresh information that we are planning a series of GSGS publications we are now discussing that option with the IWA publishing and we are planning a three monthly publication which will summarize the success stories from the field of GSGS partners next to that we are really now busy with the develop expanding our website which is already in place we will also have more expanded the news section it will have also a chat session it will have a discussion session for members and outside members community so we are expanding in that area as well and I think once the priority activities are completed we will embark on other important issues like this one I think end of this year or beginning of the next year we will do have elements of this and thank you for being ready to contribute to that and I'm sure that all other partners are eager they are asking me all the time and it's going to happen is another question above this one I'm just looking it's very difficult to follow it closely my question so can you I think we covered okay this is a reposting question for Damir are you thinking to revise the current syllabus of master in sanitation program considering COVID-19 issues this development is very important for us we do have already tackled many of similar issues regarding to public health in the program definitely COVID made such an impact on us and made us to reconsider our approaches and GSGS is not an exception to that we are very active in the Netherlands here with the novelties in tackling the COVID issue especially about early detection and of the virus in a sewer system and also in a non-sewered area I can share that very recently we have developed with the Dutch Water Institute KWR a new approach called DEMOS which is an integrated approach for early detection of epidemics so such and similar approaches which have been already tackled in our course before in indirect way when COVID started will be a focus in the next months and next even years and I'm sure that it will be tackled through different ways in our program through lectures, case studies, thesis more research on it as the information become available and I think our partners will be very interested to join I'm looking further into the list thank you GSGS and the organizers of this session just graduated with the MSC Sanitation from my IG, looking forward for the opportunities ahead to actualize the enriched capacity I have acquired I think that's from Jain Gadfir-i Nyagi seen the time and that probably we explored our session this statement of Jain is a right moment to conclude our alumni not only from IG but we are expecting this and next year hundreds of new alumni graduating from other universities in the partnership we expect more partners to join we are now negotiating expansion further into continents and regions we are planning to have regional centers we are working by hand with the Gates Foundation and other case stakeholders in acquiring the funds and through the mechanisms that will ensure the sustainability of this program beyond 2022-2023 where our current grant will stop so I would like to close this webinar it was great experience for me and for the team here in Delft you have greetings from everybody from Delft and I thank you all partners who submitted their contributions to students who are with us and to all of you who spent one and a half hour almost with us and I would like to thank to our co-speakers Russian from Seattle it's now around 10 o'clock in the morning and Vika in Indonesia it's past midnight in Indonesia water past midnight thanks Jasper for organizing it and I'm looking forward to continue with the beautiful seminar that we have in tomorrow and after tomorrow goodbye from Dan Haig in this case