 Hello, beautiful. So this is Anna Christine with Art of Awakening and I have a real special guest with us here today is my dear friend, Lisa Berman. And I just invited her here on this show because she is an amazing energy worker and I just learned that she's starting to do work with animals. And I thought it would be a really fun thing to have her on the show and just offer her experience with animal communication. Welcome, Lisa. Hi everyone. Thank you. Thank you for having me. All right, so I guess one of the biggest reasons that I wanted you here on on today is because when I first started out with Art of Awakening and doing videos on animals and spirit animals. So many people at least at first assume that I was an animal communicator, and it really was never anything that I was drawn to doing but now here you are. And I just thought it would be really cool to have you on and maybe help us to kind of explore the differences here and what is animal communication. And also share your journey because you had some pretty cool stories about working with animals. I thought it would be really fun to hear those. And, you know, we'll see where it takes us. So, Lisa, I know we've known each other for a long, long time. And I don't know if you, if you can maybe just share with me like how I, how you got into first the energy work is I remember this but maybe from your own perspective, and then how it morphed into animal communication or I know you still working with people as well. And so it's how it started out many years ago is I have this background, which you know, and just a, just an eclectic background in business and I was a business woman. And what happened was is I went to a weekend and really was to find out what was going on my purpose in my business and what I realized then is that I was an intuitive energy healer, and it really wasn't about business per se, but it was about helping people really find their place and for me to find my purpose and to help them deeply with clearing whatever blocks they had so that's where that came from. And that was kind of the awakening, the awakening. And with that for me it's what, like, how many years ago. Oh, when was it was like 2013 or 14. I remember it because you practiced on me. And that really, I really feel like that really opened up a whole lot like in my own awakening just really jump started. And I was, thank you for all of you to do all of my modalities I practice on the Christie. So it was great. It was such it was wonderful. So I have many modalities and, and I feel like for my people anyway that more modalities I learned my body automatically knows which one to go to when I'm working with people. So whether it's in their businesses or their health or, you know, spiritually that I, I automatically know which ones to use with people. So, and that was wonderful. And then a few years ago to get into my, the doggy business or, or if you want to sell the story about a dog. Right. Right. So, our friends had a colleague with Kaylee the collie and Ozzie the whatever kind of dog he was. And they used to come over and they would play with my popster my dog, and they each had their own way to play which was great. And but they were always over. So, one of them the collie is you people everybody knows they shed, they shed like crazy. So anyway, I have many girls and they were trying to clean. And the dogs who come over for play date every Friday. So my kids are always home Friday cleaning and we had three big dogs and our house running around and yipping and jumping. And my kids would say to me, you know, mommy, I really don't want the dogs here. We can't clean while these dogs are here. And I say, yeah, whatever I did more right. So, one day, the dogs are coming up the walkway and I'm standing there opening, you know, open the door of one dog walked in. And the other one just slide down on the cement. That was Kaylee the collie. And I was like, this is weird. Kaylee always comes in the house that we have play dates. And so I was like, what is the deal with it could not get this dog to move couldn't get her to get off. I could just lie down. So finally I said, Well, wow, I'm going to try this I'm going to see if I can communicate with the dog I communicate with people energetically why not. So I just sat down and in not out loud but to her I said hey Kaylee you know what's going on why are you just lying here. It was quiet for a minute and then she said well the girls, I got she didn't say but I got that that the she basically said me the girls don't want me in the house. And I said, Oh, that's interesting right because they had told me right before and she wasn't there. And it's a dog, right that they did not want her in the house, they didn't want any of them in the house for that day. So, I said to her look, it's my house. Those are my children, and I decide who comes into my home, not them. And I want you in my home. You are always welcome and I want you to come in, and she picked herself up and she walked into the house. And I was like, whoa, that was really cool. That's like an instant thing right she just adjust an instant thing she just I talked to her she said okay. And she walked in. Well, and that was like, Oh, this is so interesting. I really like the way that felt, because our animals, we don't necessarily they can't talk. So, we don't know what's wrong with them we don't know why they're behaving in a certain way we may have an idea, we may have an idea but we don't know what to do about it. That's why I said wow that little light bulb. I can help humans with their with their pets. Right. And, you know, build a rapport help them with whatever's coming up for them whether it's physical, because I also have techniques for that to help with the healing. So it's an animal communicator and healer. Yeah, but I don't remember you going into the animal work at that time. Right. No, it was just something that sort of set the seed right. Yeah, set the seed and then. It was work with clients, and then they were telling me that their animals are doing weird things. So I was like, Oh, well let's work with you and then tell me what your, your pets are doing. Right. And then we I realized I'm going to put this out there and I don't want to offend anybody because you know I've got my own pet. And but what I found is that that animals take on who we are. And they take on our illnesses. They take on our behaviors. They take on our emotional state. So just for out there for all of you, if you see your pet behaving strangely, that's not normal. Take a look at yourself and what's going on. And that's that it's a biggie. What's going on with me that my pets was very attuned to me is, is being weird, or doing something out of character. Yeah, and I have a personal experience with that you remember Jasmine my big lab mix. Yeah, and she passed away a couple years ago but I'm a couple of summers before she passed away. I was getting so so anxious and I had like I just left this relationship was long term marriage right and moved a couple times or whatever and she just started getting really, really uptight and like actually like spreading my yoga man so like she was never a destructive dog. And I just kind of, I was getting mad at her. And finally, it was like, Oh duh, right she's showing me what I am not seeing about myself was like, because I was living in this situation with other people when I was like I need to find my own place. So, as soon as I found my own place, I mean she and I find out later too she had some physical like arthritis that was bothering her a lot too. But the anxiety went way down. Right. And it was like, Oh, but then mind it too. Like, I didn't realize how much stress I had been putting myself under. I remember I was talking about that. Yeah. Right. Sometimes we, especially if you have a real warrior spirit, you're like, Oh yeah, I can deal with this. Right. Or we just don't want to see things. Right. Animal sees it. They see it. And they really pick up on it. So really it's an awareness for us. So this net there's no judgment around it like my clients is you don't have to feel badly. It's just a it's a wake up call. It's Oh, okay. You know, what do I need to do and definitely. So that's really cool. So now I have all these clients who are who have animals who I'm working with them and all of a sudden, they're calling me as we work for their animals. So it's like, like, Oh, it's like, it's like, so it's sort of naturally kind of right turn is turning into more of an animal practice or, or a dual right. It feels like a dual, almost like a dual practice. Right. Yeah. True. Sometimes it's like we just, no matter what we, and you know, think what we're going to do, we end up gravitating towards or whatever it is that we're supposed to be doing gravitates to us in whatever way. And this is what you mentioned is that would that, and I, what I think would prior to this is what made me think of, I could do it with the dog is that I started out with a tree, or at all of you, you know, I started out with a tree. So I was working. Okay, do do. So I was working with somebody and I, somebody who worked with plants in, where she was from in Norway or wherever she was anyway, she said, she worked with plants and she taught she communicated. She taught she communicated with plants and trees. So I said, Oh, I want to try that. So she said, let's do it. Let's, let's talk to your tree out front so I didn't. And I realized and what I got a hit was that it wasn't well it was ill. So I energetically went out and I helped it there was some things that that were going on with it but I was shocked, really I was shocked that I could actually connect with this tree. So I figured if I can connect with the tree. Right, I can connect with, you know, the dogs and passers-by and whatever. So that was. So do you find the certain types of animals or animals versus plants or anything like that. Do you find certain types easier for you to work with. Right now with cats and dogs, much easier with cats and dogs. I played with horses, and that I believe would have gone okay, but I have working through some issues with I love horses I think they're beautiful, but for me they're big, and they're so smart that they can feel my discomfort with their size. So they're not going to open to me because of my, it's not a fear of fear because I'm not fearful of them. I'm not even anxious this just. Intimidation or. Yeah, so once that's, I conquer that. Then, then I'm going to, I really want to work with I really want to work with the horses. Yeah. And I realized, I can, I can, I can connect with them. I can't heal them yet, but I can see them I can see what exactly what's going on with them. Right. And I know what it is, but I'm not at that level yet, or that connection yet where they can trust me. So I can for sure know what's going on. Yeah, I can pick that out. So that's one of my goals also down the road but now it's the you know puppies and the kitty cats and yeah, so that are very fun for me. So I'm picking up from this that it's not just a matter of you being able to tune into their energy but also a matter of them being able to tune into yours and relax and your energy. Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. They just calm. And then they'll and trust. There's a lot in the trust that I love them. So it's that's doesn't matter who they what they are. Yeah. So if, if you were speaking like I know there's going to be people here in the audience that, you know, maybe interested in trying out animal communication. What, what advice would you give them. I think it's to talk to them. I mean you can just, you don't have to out loud, say a word. Right. You just connect with them. Here's the deal I'm going to tell you something though in a backup I tried it with my dog. Okay. And she and so I wouldn't necessarily try it with your own dog, first or cat, because I did it with mine, and I got like a slap in the face. Like, she looked at me like she looked at me like, what? She was, I got, I got like, how dare you. Because we had this, we had this relationship. And it was like, I cannot believe that you actually did that. So it was like, okay, you know, I backed off and I'm going to, I work on it all the time I'm going to, you know, check into that I'm going to ease my way in because it's important that I get I understand her right. But actually, I think she was shocked that it was so powerful when I got in there that she was not expecting it. Because that's not a relationship relationship with you. Right. And it wasn't that. So, I would suggest that you try it on somebody else's first, before you try it on your own. And you can like with Kaylee I just sat down and I pet her a little bit, just calmed her down and then I just thought, and I said in my head I said you know, hey Kaylee, you know what's going on. You know what's, and then, and then you're quiet. You just calm your mind and you're going to get information, just like I don't know who whoever's out there is energy workers who are into this. I mean, the only thing that comes is what you're going to get and she was spot on. I mean, she said, you know, the other ones to, you know, this is what's going on and she was right. Yeah, right. So, it's back to me was pretty clear that she understood me, and she answered me the way she did. Sure. So, have you ever asked an animal about the state of their human. It just struck me to interesting, interesting. I haven't asked them outright. I just have a knowing that when they have an issue. I will ask their human if this is an issue for them. I believe that they tell me by it's an interesting thought I'm going to, I'm going to add that I'm going to ask. Absolutely, I'm going to I'm going to start asking I just have a knowing, but why not just ask what's just struck me because it's like their healers are really. They are right I just know that this was is what it is by the field. Yeah, and I think that's a great question. Let's go on out with your. Yeah, yeah. I thought I had was like, a lot of times are our animals are so close to us. I thought, well, you know, when you were talking about maybe not starting with your own. Do you think it's maybe that our energy is so intertwined with our. Yeah, yeah. Be almost like trying to heal ourselves. Which we can, we can, which you can, but it's a little easiest thing, right. We're trying to heal the pets and ourselves at the same time when we're kind of one. It's a it's I think it's harder. It's definitely harder to do. So for sure we can I just, if you're starting out I wouldn't start with your own. I would start with, you know, family members or friends or, you know, just to take a peek and that's that's how that's how I would do it. I said to her, I want to check out what's going on and then after that I did work with her, the other dog and the other dogs. Once I had that connection then I did continue with working with the dogs and she was had issues. This is your own dog. The Kaley dog, right. Kaley the colleague. Nice. Cool. Oh, let's see. Would there be any advice for somebody that's maybe interested in becoming a an animal communicator as a professional. What advice would you give them. I believe that if try it out you got to play with it. Right, you have to be out there. Play with it and enjoy it have fun with it. This is just this is about fun you can't hurt them. Right, either they're going to shut you down and you're going to know it's right you're not you're going to get a, nothing common, right, or they're going to be open, but just be really relaxed with it and have fun with it. Because they, they, we know all of you who have animals they communicate with us. Like I just want to give you a quickie with this dog of mine. Okay, so we first got her, she was a puppy, and our other dog it passed away but we had raised up bowls, because it was a box or boxers for their digest for their digestion whatever they need to be raised up and out on the ground anyway set them up for her clean whatever water in a different part of, you know, the kitchen. So, we sat down to eat and I accept the dog spoon up. And this is my dog Charlie. Yeah, my dog Charlie she's, what is she she's a pit slash and Ridgeback slash Mott dog. Very smart. Anyway, so I fed her. Yeah. So, so I fed her and then she came and she stood there and she stared at me. And I said, and this is before I was communicating animal communication. And this is weird so I took her back to her bowl in her water and I showed it to her again she's new in the house and, and she came back to me. She had a very disgruntled look on her face. So, her bowls from the other place where we got her, they were, they were stacked. So she looks at me, and she takes one bowl out of the other, and she sets it next to the other one. So she looks at me, she looks back at the bowl and she looks at me like moron. That's what I got that's what I got on moron. This is where I want to eat. Okay, so I was, oh, and I took the bowl of water and the food and I poured it in, and I sat down and she looked at the food like, like, really, I had to go through that and she ate. That's what she did. Okay. So, I'm like, so maybe I was communicating then. But I was like, but I'm saying is that you're our animals communicate. Sure. And in all of you know that they communicate with us. But you can, you can go deep. You can go deeper with them, but really just make it fun and ask to practice on. Okay, can I practice on your what's going on this one that's being all over the place. Oh, can I can I talk to your cat or dog. You know, can I see the camera is going to say no. That's what I would do. That's what I do. Can I talk to him. And then, and then I was going to say just do a couple of freebies but not many rights and get testimonials is what I would do, and then and then start charging, because what people love is the need and people love their animals and that they kids not like kids or, you know, they can't talk to you verbally. So, when we love our animals I mean this she's going on what 13 we've had our 13 years right so they're they're part of the book they're part of our families, they're, they're right. And it heals just like you heal any individual it's going to heal the whole family and some yeah, and certainly pets because they're so entwined in the heart right yeah and unconditional love they give us even the cats, even the cats, right. They pretend not to. Very like I've got one is a total lovey-dovey, and the other ones like. And, you know, they're still, they love us and, you know, doesn't matter the standoffish or the lovey-dovey ones. Yeah, yeah. That's how that's my advice just go try it and have but really have fun with it. You want to have fun with it, and see if it fits. So it may or may not fit, or it may be that it's a client who also does this, she does like wild animals to. So maybe your, your connection is with, you know, bunnies or wild animals, or like a bird, you know, see what what that is and maybe your specialty would be or is horses, or goats, or, you know, who knows, you know, we go north at our place I think I'm going to go talk to the goats and see how you can connect with the goats on the farm. Oh, and there are people that have the super connection with a particular kind of a right, right. Yeah, like you said the wild animals I have a client who's an amazing photographer she takes these incredible photos of wild animals and they're like portraits. You know there's that connection there or you know. Yeah so so many different ways to connect like myself I tend to connect with the spirit animal just typically not the individual but the overarching right yeah so there's there's so many ways to do it, and I love your advice to just play. Yeah, play and see what fits you can try them all. As I said you saw it you know as I said that the horse is not yet right and I knew that and okay that's okay. You can try them play with whatever, whatever comes to mind, and maybe they asked that maybe I know you own are really it's like the bees, and the last. Yeah, yeah, you have a real connection with them. Oh, yeah, I mean yeah because there's been times where I can go and put a finger in front of a wasp and you did that. In our in our convention you remember we were together you walked it out it climbed on you and you walked it out walked it out and I think you're right it's like the thing is to not have the fear. You don't have the right, no fear. There's nothing for them to get upset about and they know that you're trying to help them right. And you know given a little bit of common sense to have you see respect. You're not sticking your hand in the window trying to get out. It's not angry at anything but it's sort of like it just wants to get out and you can feel that you're just there to help it. Right, so whatever. I think that's just to have fun play with it and see what who you connect and what you connect with what you connect with and then right and then go for it just all out right. Yeah, so just easy we open our hearts to that because they know that they feel that they feel it. So, yeah, so that's, so that's, that's just what I. Lisa so thankful for you to share your experience I know it's going to be of great interest to a lot of a lot of my peeps here. And if anybody wants to connect with you. How do they get a good hold of you how do they reach you. I would do email at this point so it's Lisa L is a H is and Harry Berman be our M a n at gmail.com Lisa H Berman at gmail.com or right now I haven't added the animal communication healing it to my site, but my website is Lisa Berman clear path coaching. com Lisa Berman my name clear path coaching.com. So that's, that's that you can always set up if you want to, you know I've got the, the free 20 minute session we can talk about animals on it if you want. So you can if you want to set something up and, and shmoos that's that's fun to. Thank you Lisa so much and for everybody out there, you heard her go play have fun if you at all feel like you want to connect with the critters. They're out there they're waiting to be communicated with and just yeah and you can you really can. All right, thank you so much. Thank you Lisa. And then until next time remember you were born to be free.