 Good evening, everyone. Let's go ahead and get started. I'd respect to everybody that was here at 6 o'clock. My name is Raul Lopez, and I'm an engineering manager with the TBW in City of Fort Worth. I oversee the design and construction of the thoroughfares in Fort Worth, you know, the four six-lane roadways. And this is one of them, University Drive. This is the pre-construction committee meeting for University Drive Improvements Phase 1. There will be Phase 2, and Mark is going to go, Mark, our PM is going to go over those details in a second. I want to remind everybody that there's a sign-up sheet towards the back if you want to sign up now or maybe towards the end, but don't forget to sign in. And then there's also a comment card if you want to write down your comments. And there's also a brochure on how to download the My Fort Worth app or FW app, which is pretty handy in reporting any kind of issues, whether it's university or anywhere else in the city. So, I'm going to do some introductions. I'm going to start with our interim assistant director over capital delivery, Martin Phillips. With us also is our interim director, Lauren Priar. And then we have Aaron Freaky with Cop Family. They are the design engineers. I have Jeff Allen, who is our communication specialist, responsible for putting all this together. And then with us, our project manager is Mark McCoy. He's Friston Nichols, but he's a contract project manager for the city of Fort Worth. So with that, I'm going to leave it up to Mark to get started. Thank you, Raul. I'm going to kind of, I think this will work so I can see you all and see the screen and see my notes at the same time. So thank you, everyone, for being here live and in person. I guess as we come out of COVID, it's nice to see people in real life. I'm the project manager, and we're going to show you tonight, among other things, what university drive is going to look like in the near future. So here we go. We're going to give you a little bit of background, and this is, a lot of this is courtesy of Lauren, by the way, but this is not just a one piece of this project. You can see there's several phases in the works. Phase one and two, phase one is coming first, phase two is a little, trailing a little behind, and then down south is going to be the next piece of this, but we're thinking of it as a corridor and not just an individual project, just so you know. So about five years ago, the Fort Worth Community Design Center completed a corridor and gateway strategy study on university drive and made recommendations for improvements. These university projects are the result of those recommendations. The corridor study stretches from the trail drive to West Cantey Street near TCU. You can see that on the screen. Phase one and two are only a portion of the entire corridor, so there will be future phases. So the reason we need this project is that university drive welcomes over five million visitors every year. The existing roadway has a wide and unwelcoming highway feel, so our project intends to make this corridor the gateway to Fort Worth's cultural attractions. And that's stated, we stated basically in a different way on these bullet points, but you get the idea if you've ever driven up and down university drive. Here's a picture of the limits of this particular project. You can see Rosedale on the north and Riverfront on the south limit. It does include old university. The scope of work consists of installing consistent street lighting, replacing the sanitary sewer in one portion, installing pedestrian safety elements, and installing new medians with left turn bays, as well as milling and overlaying the whole stretch. That's the new asphalt pavement in case you don't know that terminology. Another piece of the scope for this phase is installing new bus stop facilities and wayfinding signage. Trinity Metro is actually going to install the bus stop shelters, but we're putting in the concrete pads. Here's a satellite view, and in case you didn't know already, this area has a very car-centric feel to it. It's not really very pedestrian friendly or pretty to look at, so we're going to try to change all that with this project. This slide shows the overall phase one concept. After this, we'll get into close-ups at different pieces of the job, but you can see that we're installing a narrow solid median throughout the whole limits with various left turn lanes, and hopefully you can see that from where you're sitting, but the median is the tan shading here, the sewer is the green, the red or the crosswalks, and I guess it's obvious these are traffic signals, so the signal is existing. That signal is new. Okay, here's the north end, starting at West Rosedale. You can see, again, the sidewalks and the median and the sewer, just so you know, the sidewalk varies from four to six feet depending where it is and how much room we had to work with. Right away was kind of limited, so ideally we would have put in shared paths for wider paths for bikes to share with pedestrians, but there just wasn't enough right of way in this area, so we're doing what we can. Again, here's, as we move a little bit further south, here's where old university ties into university. Again, crosswalks are red. A little information here, the northern crosswalk here at old university was limited just due to safety and visibility concerns. We'll have ADA compliant curb ramps and stamped concrete crosswalks at these intersections, just to make it safer and prettier. The existing signal will be replaced with a new powder-coated black signal to kind of up the aesthetic quotient a little bit. All right, this shows the improvements south of old university, including continuous median on all the way to Collinsworth. And again, the crosswalks are red, the sidewalks are blue, and we're putting in new curb ramps also at this intersection. And again, the traffic signal poles will be the powder-coated black ones. Mark, there's also landscape in the islands. All right, yeah, that's what this, the multicolored section right here, and we'll talk a little bit more about that later, but there are, where we could, we put some landscaping areas. All right, so in case any of you don't already know this, this former resident in is being redeveloped. The developer is called Trademark, and so we've been coordinating with him on this project, and so there will be a signal installed for the future. There will be a driveway coming out of their development, so as part of this job is this, is the signal for that future driveway. So if you see action there, that's what's going on. Okay, talk about old university. The idea is to right-size this roadway to accommodate everybody, and that means providing two 11-foot lanes, a bike lane buffer, a bike lane, and a parking lane, and that's, those numbers are called out right here in the small print, but that is the idea. That's the only place on this job where there are bike lanes because we couldn't fit them anywhere else. Yes, sir? Are you open to questions now? Can we hold them to the end, please? Please, thank you. Yeah, yeah, well, I can flip back through and take care of your question. All right. Just to reiterate, there's no hard improvements on the pavement on old university-only pavement markings. And we're also just adding sidewalks as shown in blue just to kind of fill in the gaps and connect to the TRA trails. Okay, here's zoomed in views of the landscaping that rule pointed out before. And the landscaping consists of bands of plants and grasses of different coloring that can vary naturally with the seasons. We have specimen pictures on the next slide. The landscape islands will be surrounded by brick pavers, light tan tone, similar to this rendering, and of course, there will be irrigation installed also. And all those landscaping improvements have been coordinated with parks and recreation department. All right, I'm just going to read the names of these for any of you who are interested in the landscaping, if we have specific questions, I can go back and really get into the details. But so we have Fortner of Daisy, Pink Skull Cap, Desert Flamenco, Hesporello, Side Oats, Grandma, and Little Bluestem. So these are all, the idea is to make them all Texas native plants that give us some color and they're drought tolerant and that's it in a nutshell, but we can go back and talk about that more later if you are interested. Okay, so here we are to the cost slide. Construction, 3.4 million. Overall funding is, add that up, but coming from the 2018 bond program and there's some water and sewer money in here too, obviously because the sewer's being replaced as part of this job. Everything beyond the construction is what it costs to buy easements, do the engineering, do the permitting, manage the project, et cetera. So that's how your money is being spent. Here we are to talk about the schedule. The right-of-way is we have one easement remaining that is part of a deal with trademark that I mentioned, one little piece for a bus stop that is almost done. Utilities are in the process of being cleared right now. There's like one spot left on that too and construction start has not been finalized yet. We are still discussing that, but it will be somewhere towards the end of this year and we're scheduled to be exactly a year duration from whenever we start, so. Let's just take the opportunity to maybe get some impact, input on that. We were thinking about starting November, but we're thinking it's approaching the holiday season, so we'd rather put it off until February after the start show. If that's sort of the consensus. Get it done. If you guys have any. Does anybody oppose to that concept? It's starting February versus starting in November? It's gonna be a calendar year. Yeah, we'd rather start in February. We might be able to accelerate the construction duration. But any of these events that we're talking about. There's gonna be a lot of events in them, yeah, but yeah. It's gonna impact in one way or another. Right, but we'd rather start in February, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Start, get it done. Start, get it done? Yeah. Okay. Dive in, okay. All right, okay. Does anybody care that we're about having under construction during the Christmas shopping season? Does that bother anybody? Yeah, is there anybody here from University of Baku Village or? I brought in seeds that was there and I'd rather not have all the construction going on during November than December. Those are very busy months for us. Yeah, that's what we were headed with it. So we'll circle back with our management and let you guys know, yeah. Okay, thank you for the input to the slide here where we talk about communication strategies. Sure, sure. And then there it is right there. So we're making a strong effort in this project to let you all know exactly what's going on at all times and keeping contact and make ourselves available. But here's kind of the details. Obviously we're meeting tonight. Here at the zoo, the plan is to have monthly website updates and there's a link here in the presentation and this'll be, I guess, how do we publish this? They can't see this presentation, but. The video links, we're recording the presentations and we'll put that video on this project page. Okay. It'll be on YouTube if anyone wants to know our YouTube. We also have a test message alert system that you can subscribe to by scanning this code or just texting hello to the phone number shown here and I can, if anybody needs that, I can read it out loud if anybody's taking notes. So that number, that service is down right now because apparently their server is down in Florida, South Florida, but we anticipated being back up December. Probably next November at the latest. So you can write the number down but you can't sign up yet because their server is down. So just hold on to the number and try to sign up probably mid-November. I'm sorry, mid, early November? Early November. Early November. They got hit by a hurricane. Yeah. We'll also be having monthly on-site construction meetings that you're welcome to attend. I envision this happening like right before our meeting with the contractor, like show up, voice your concerns. What is happening here? Thank you. Sorry, new equipment to me. Okay, yeah, so we'll publish when those are gonna be and where and open mic night, I guess. The next thing we're trying to include is quarterly city news updates and there will be a six month mailed construction update. So like I said, really trying hard to keep you all in the loop. Talking about access plans for pedestrians and vehicles, particularly for businesses like Eatsies during construction. In the contract, there are restrictions on the number of lanes that can be closed at certain times, okay? In particular, one lane will have to be closed in each direction to build an immediate, and obviously, cause it's right in the middle of the street. But we'll keep the construction to one section of median at a time so the entire stretch isn't closed at once. When we're building the sidewalks, there will be alternate routes for pedestrians that are accessible and we'll make sure those are signed properly and that there's advanced notice given. Driveway access will be maintained or will give you alternate access so you can always get, there's always a way to get where you're trying to go. And at the bottom here is my name, again, my phone number, my personal cell phone number, so there you go, that's me. I think Raul mentioned already, but there is the MyFW app that it really does work and if you don't have it, I would recommend getting it. So that's available in Google Play or what's the iPhone? Apple Store, yeah. Apple Store will be spring break in March. Yes. Do we have a copy of that, Mark? I don't think we do. Yeah, I thought I didn't read it, I guess. It was listed. Yes, we will be finished, yes. We know that for a fact. We don't want to start this until the 7th Street is finished. What happened here? What is the update on 7th Street? Construction is to be substantially completed by November 4th, and they're working on the median between Norwood and University, so just the last little block, and then the rest, what's left? Okay, thank you. What's left from there is finishing the landscape on the median, irrigation, and then mill and overlay and striping, so. And would the landscaping be in also? Yeah, everything should be in by November 4th. I think there was, I'm looking for the list of events that we're trying to avoid. Sorry, I got kicked out of my presentation here. Maybe it's the worst. There we go, there we go. Colonial golf tournament, Fort Worth Zoo, spring break with the kids, TCE home football games, the Zoo Run, Mayfest, Fort Worth Stock Show and Rodeo, and I think there's a couple more too, but yes, we're thinking about all that and trying to minimize the impact to all that stuff, so notice this says construction will be restricted, it won't stop, but it will be restricted. We need to stop for some reason. We'll talk to the contractor, but we'd rather not stop, but it'll be restricted to how many lanes can be worked on at the time. Thank you, that's a good point, yeah. Okay, I think that was basically the end of my slide. So now, I think, I know the turquoise shirt had a question, what was it on again, I'm sorry? Right here? The presentation changed significantly between, but in this project. There hasn't been any significant changes ever since. Placement of medians, things like that, everything is the same information. This is pretty much the same, yes sir. Right now, on an old university, that's not a solid median, in the middle is that just a, okay. It's a stripe, the center stripe, yeah. All right, and then sidewalks will be on both sides of the road, is that what you want to do? No, that's, we're only gonna have sidewalks along the, I guess you would call that the West East side, or North side, the West side, the side closer to the river. We're only, sidewalks are designated by the blue lines here. So there's only gonna be sidewalks up to that entrance to, I believe there was some development there when it's no longer there. And you see the red skip line, that's a crosswalk to get people from the North side, or the East side to the West side. There's already sidewalk all the way to the hotel. And then that's where we start the sidewalk. Right here, already exists, right? So where the blue picks up, that's where we start sidewalk again in front of the hotel. And then, so there's not gonna be a sidewalk along the side closer to the river, because that's all gonna be redeveloped, and that's in the works. So we don't wanna build sidewalk, and then the redevelopment will tear it all off. Right, right. Yeah. And then, from the sewage. Is it from the main top of the sewage from the park, coming out of Trinity Park? No, it's two ways. Yeah, it's, that would be Northbound, this is Southbound. Yeah, it's still gonna be two ways. It's one lane each way. Yeah. About the other side, in Trinity Park? Coming out of, there's a bridge there at the end of Old University that enters Trinity Park. I'm not familiar with it. You go into the bridge. Yeah. The public sector is open at the end, and you can get into Trinity Park there. Right, correct, yes. Is that remaining the same? Yeah, it is, yeah. That's not changing. Okay, I understand you're saying that. Okay, then we need to coordinate with our traffic guys. Yeah, but there's something that'll be one way out of the park. Okay. The road itself is the main two way, but coming out of the park, you don't leave the park, you can't enter the park. Okay. Did you say that you're gonna have some medians? Yes. Will there be fewer lanes to drive in? No, still the same amount of lanes. That's why the median has to be so narrow, because, yeah, we won't reduce the amount of travel lanes, no. Now, seven streets used to be two lanes on each side, and then a center lane. It's still two lanes. It just has a median instead of a center lane, but you still have the ability to turn, just like you used to. And this is gonna be similar. This, where the center line, the center, I'm sorry, where the median is gonna go, it's now the center lane, the common center lane. So that's gonna be a concrete solid median. You're still gonna have the ability to turn left at the median openings. The signals. Yeah, protect that left, yeah. Sure. Is there gonna be a bike lane on the university? No. I wouldn't get on that thing. But, why do you have a bike lane running on old university? Feeding now, that's the only place it feeds down to, and I don't understand that. So the idea is that, so for example, former residence inside, that's gonna be a hotel, residences, and commercial. There's also colonial apartments out to the west. Oh, I know, they're bigger than the buses. The idea is, it's connectivity to the Trinity Trails, yeah. I'm just saying that, you know, I'd rather see the bike lane over here than y'all widening the one that's going down the river. But, I know you have to spend your money where you're spending your money. We're also trying to use the bike lane as a means of transportation. As a means of transportation, we're just trying to use bikers or bicycles as a means of transportation to go shopping if you wanna go to University Park Village to go have lunch at, you know, whatever you wanna go have lunch. It's not just recreational, so that's... You won't wanna go down by the river if you're gonna go there and wanna buy something. It's all up to you, you know. Right, so that's what we're putting the bike lane here so you can go to University Park Village. You wouldn't be able to do that if you would stay on the river trails, yeah. Whatever. Yeah, yeah, that's the concept. Yes, sir. Well, maybe, see a lot of what turns out there. Right. And that's part of the concept of the project, the idea of the project is to limit those turn lanes that are proven to be very dangerous. There's been traffic studies that have demonstrated that, you know, it's a high injury corridor because of those turn lanes, the mutual turn lanes, and that's one of the concepts of the project, is to limit the amount of turn lanes at, say at the signal, concentrate on the signal where they're protected. There's two more single direction turn lanes towards the north. Are you going to be able to do a U-turn? You'll be able to U-turn at the signal, the traffic signal, yes. I'm sorry? But not at the other turning points? No, at the other turning points, it would be too tight of a movement, no, that's not allowed. That's just a single direction left turn lane. Then we expect to increase some population density for, say for sure, there at the former residence, yeah. How many drawing units do we expect there? We don't have that information, that's private development. It's not part of your study, but... We took it in consideration for the study, but we don't have that information at this time. That has changed over the years. The city's got the information. Well, the city might, but yeah, this group doesn't have it, I'm sorry. Yeah, we don't have it, yeah. It's the sort of thing you could give us tomorrow. I'm sorry? We could get it coming tomorrow at the prison point. We can do research. We, in conversations with Trademark, the developer, and they should be able to tell us what that number is. You can tell us the max, this whole app. We can do that, yeah. About a minute. Can you, did you have a comment card? Can you put that in your comment card? Or give me your name or something? Right, and then at the, there may be some more public information at the other end. You've got something along the university going, where it had taken out several office authorities that would be on the freeway, where we'll be originally divided. I think we see some dwellings planning. I'm not sure where you're, I'm not sure the location, yeah. You're talking about, I'm talking about the old university block. Oh, you're talking about that vacant lot? Here? Yeah, always. Yeah. Yeah, we sit, yeah. And there's more of those there toward the river. What population density of chemistry is that? We can chase those answers. Yeah, we can chase those answers. If you'll just provide. I don't think there's anything, I don't think there's anything proprietary about what you've done with the, about the plans, as they all are now, and developing privacy for the development. I don't think it is, no. We just don't have that information right there at this point, yeah. Tomorrow's fine. Actually, next week, it's fine. Yeah, I can't promise that I'll give it to you tomorrow, but I'll give it to you in a timely manner. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. And what is your name, sir? I am Charles Rodfus, VR and my friends. Are you going to start or not? I'll just get your email here in a second, yeah. Yes, sir. Joey, you touched on traffic a little bit, and to describe this, it brings up a good point. This will undoubtedly restrict a little bit of traffic on the university. And... You're talking about the construction or the alternative? I'm talking about just in general. Just with the turn lanes already get backed out into the left lane of Northbound and Southbound traffic. When there's a full turn lane for them, they already get backed out there, and we're going to add all of the stuff from Trademark, and like we were talking about stuff from old university, when we had this meeting in 2019, y'all have not done the traffic study yet. Have y'all done the traffic study? I figure out where all these cars are going to go. Carl? And where the... We talked about last time, people that are in the Apple Store that want to go Northbound, let's say. If that line for that light is going to get, is the only exit Northbound from the shopping center, is going to be crazy. And the last time we talked about, oh, just go on Rogers Road, which is already bottlenecked. Right. We did a traffic study, right, Carl? Yes, we did. I think the level of service was... The level of service was... Constant? It was constant. It was level of service C that came through during the just time, such as shopping center, it would go down to D, which means it would have a little longer in the lane to go through, but we tried to make it as... Make the exit for that intersection to be as consistent flow as possible. Holiday is their exception, but daily traffic as they have is to respond. I don't know at any of that level C, the area that means. I just mean, like, right now you can drive on Broadway Road at five o'clock in the afternoon, and it's backed up from the bridge all the way beyond the entrance to University Park Village. And now that becomes one of your major routes of egress out of University Park Village to go Northbound. And it seems like we're at it. Don't forget, there's going to be a signal there which doesn't exist today. So you see, Rogers... Is it set on College Road? Mm-hmm, yes. Yes, there's going to be a new signal. I think we've got to go out of College Road down out of the back road of University Park Village overnight. Right, but you have a lot of backup on Rogers because there's a signal now and you've got to wait for a gap from Northbound and Southbound University. You wouldn't have to wait for that gap. You'll have a signal protected left. Why is the backup from Rogers from Northbound and Southbound University? If you're here right now, today, you're trying to turn Northbound? I'm not talking about there. But the existing stop line. There's no stop line there. Now that's only a right line, which is a lot safer. Can we pull a map here? All right, I guess maybe right here? You talking about here? That's the stop line. I'm saying it is already congested and people are going, you're going to add, as cars are going from the outlet store, they're going to go, that's west, towards Banana Republic and all that stuff. And then they're going to have to get in that line. Last time we met, you talked about, you were just running to go out of the back of the TV through to Rogers Road. It is already incredibly congested. So Rogers Road is already congested, right? Yes. And I'm telling you, it's congested today because you don't have a signal there. That's not, I'm not going Northbound. Rogers Road is, we just missed. I'm sorry, this is calling north. I'm sorry, this is calling north. Canada's worth. Rogers Road runs down this way, yeah. You get an 18-wheeler that's trying to go east on I-30 on Rogers Road, and it will back up traffic well beyond the University of Art Village. Did we look at that, Carl? Did we look at that? Or have we looked at that? Rogers Road wasn't looked at because the purpose was to do the safety issues along the University of Art. Right. If I could interject, I think that if you're, one of your major traffic plans is to divert traffic to Rogers Road, that Rogers Road traffic has to be taken to a camp. I'm just going to go back to what y'all said in the 2019 meeting, which was to divert traffic to University of Art Village out of... To divert these states, it's not meant to divert, that is an option, to divert it directly to an option, but it's to make the University of State for all users. That's not what I meant. And what I mean is one of the options for alleviating traffic with this plan was to divert traffic. Can you not get to Collins Road from Rogers Road? I think you can. Yeah. So this is a bottleneck point that exists today that will not exist tomorrow. So all that traffic is rerouted. You have to compare improved situations with existing conditions. Existing causes a bottleneck because you have this big bottleneck here. Traffic diverges itself when you... It's just like everything in life, right? When you have an obstacle, you find out the way. So traffic reroutes and traffic engineering accounts for that. Yeah. So we'll take it from Apple Store to... trying to get northbound from Easties. And what was your question? You'll have to go out to the signal and turn around. And that's what happens when you're trying to balance safety and mobility. We cannot sacrifice safety to keep mobility the way it is. So we have to balance those things out. I'm not asking you to sacrifice mobility. I'm asking you to not sacrifice as much mobility and figure out a good way for people who still be able to move. I already... I've drive... University drive from North and South several times a day. And now I've gotten a habit of taking the right road. I just can't imagine how much more this is going to happen about the road. And it may be that a lot of traffic that goes down university might take Forest Park or something. Traffic just goes different routes. It's when you limit the flow. Yeah. So price... I mean, construction cost, date increase. Construction cost was estimated to be about 2.4 to 2.5 and it's now about a million more. It's not a whole million because the water department added scope that wasn't included at the time. So it's about $700,000 more. But it's funded. So from the same bond? From the same bond, yeah. Residuals from that bond. We're about to wrap up that bond program. So whatever wasn't used, some of it went to this project. One second. I got a question in the back corner there. Yeah, wait. Okay. Yeah, if you want an example of how, you know, of why I've got this trust, you know, when they restriped him pill, several people pitched connections about there will be a traffic apocalypse. Guess what never came. So I trust this plan has taken enough into account to make sure that won't happen here. Right? Thank you. Thank you very much for that. Yeah. That comes. Give him a chance first. Go ahead. Okay. We saw this about four years ago. There was going to be a temporary something for trademark and have a term behind the silver box restaurant. Is this going to be as delivered day one? Right. That's no longer needed. So that's out of the picture. Yes. And the other was that they had to move their entrance to that old residence inside by certain date. They'll just move it whenever they're ready to develop that. Yeah. So that's a private improvement. So we're just prepping the intersection for a signal to serve that driveway, but they'll just move whenever they're ready. So the last time we met with them, they were about to start construction right now, but you can see nothing's going on. So that's what happens with development. For all I know, that development may not happen. So development is market-driven. It's not a public book. It's not public work. Right here. Yes. Left turn line from the zoo. That's a left turn pocket. What's that? Oh, here? Yeah. I'm sorry. That is the left turn to go into riverfront. This pocket here is the left turn to go into riverfront. I'm sorry. That thing go away. That's dangerous. I mean, I know now there's a stoplight. So there will be a stoplight. And whenever this is red for these people, then these people will have a gap to get in. That's what I keep saying. This makes a big difference. And just so you know, level of service C is what's accepted in most roadways that you're driving in today except the freeway. So it's when we design roadways, we don't shoot for level service A. Level service A is a car every 500 feet. You don't want to design a road for that little traffic. You want to design a road that sort of keeps a balance between cost and service. So level of service C, which is what we're going to have after the project is constructed, is acceptable and that's what we shoot for. That's what the traffic engineering profession shoots for, to say, not just a city for work. So I drove this road, figured it out, and it's six times to the... and it's really this. Can you tell me the throughput capacity of this road is going to be improved? Yes. I mean, not improved. It's going to stay about the same. Level of service C to level of service C, right, Carl? Judging over the last five to eight years, it is a whole lot this year. And ever since first part was redone, a lot of traffic has moved over the University project. So I want to emphasize this. This is not a capacity-increasing project. This is a safety-improvement project. I understand it's a very difficult situation. Very shallow. There's no room for us to grow another lane. That's the challenge. I don't think we want another one. I see traffic back up all the way down at Rosedale to the bridge on the weekend. All the way to the bridge. This entire road, three lanes wide, is back up and caught. So what can be done to increase the fuel in the roadway to use that traffic route? The biggest stop gap, like I said, the biggest stop gap on northbound traffic along this route is not the through traffic. It's the light turns leading on the interstate. And right at that intersection right there, the tech stop will not stop the off-ranges because that's more of a safety issue because there's one 70 miles an hour and there's a backup on the ramp on there. So they have more free movements getting on to the university and they stop the university. That's why I'm asking. Can you explain where you're going? Sure. Can you see it going? You have ramps right here for 30. And you have off-ramps that come through. They are not going to stop the off-ramps because if you back up on the 30 and there was hold on at the light, you're going to have stoppages on the interstate. It's far more dangerous to stop the interstate than it is to stop this road. So that's why they have more dream time than the ramps do. And that's where your backups occur. Now, if you eliminated the interchanges here completely, you'd have through movement all the way through. I understand how you're saying the ramps that come from the freeway, the off-ramps. Off-ramps? Coming here and coming here on the opposite side of the university, those have more significant dream time than the university does going north and south. So text that gives them preference to be able to get onto universities so they don't back up into the freeway. Into the freeway. And so that stops the conflicting movement which is northbound. Is that single white barrier? It's... Yeah, this is... This is a case study for... Traffic signal congestion and freeway congestion. You have... That's NTTA. Chisholm Trail is NTTA. And then the next one over... Is it Chisholm Trail or is it... And I-30. You have the two lanes, the four straight turns, one south, and then you have the one lane that's the turn... Yeah, so it's only the Chisholm Trail. Chisholm Trail, yeah. So it's NTTA. I was at the central meetings for this before West 7th was the project started. And I appreciate the fact that everyone had the chance to have them for that. But that project was supposed to be finished in the spring and then in the summer and now we're going to have no limit. So if you all are thinking this project is going to take a year, it's going to be wholly held for others for those of us who have to drive it. And are we talking about a year? How do we get it done and get it over? Let me stop by saying this. This is not as complicated as West 7th. It's number one, it's a lot shorter. Number two, we're not doing as much as we're doing on West 7th. On West 7th, we're constructing concrete bike lanes right in the middle of an existing lane. We're not constructing anything within the existing three lanes. We're constructing the median in the middle in the existing left lane. The other thing is this is not as congested with utilities as West 7th was. West 7th is one of the oldest part of town, right? So it's congested with all utilities right underneath the road. And they were, you know, when we were locating the street lights, the street lights took on that project, we were getting water lines and we were getting all the utilities. It is very, very congested with utilities because of the density of the development there. This is not as dense as West 7th is. And the other thing that caused delays on West 7th was the reaching agreement with the railroad. That just takes too long. Railroads have an upper hand over anybody else because they were here first. And so, finally, we were able to reach agreement with them, I think it was towards July, end of the summer. And that crossing is now complete, substantially complete. So, none of that is going to happen here. We don't have railroad crossing, we don't have utilities that many utilities underneath. We need to talk about making sure that we do SUE and any potential conflicts. I've already told you this in a different venue. So it's not going to be, this is not as complicated as a project as West 7th was. In terms of utilities, conflicts, potential findings while you're doing construction, it's not going to be that bad. You and I talked before about we're not very utilities with this right now. The franchise utilities, and whatnot. That will continue. That will continue, yes. We're going to have purple lights. We've not seen some of those going in. Purple lights, no. Like, you made the freeway? I thought about that initially. I don't know. Oh, okay. I've seen purple lights on and purple, the bluish over the new Trinity River Vision Bridges. And those are cool. They're cool blue, I should call them. Not purple. Oh, really? Well, we should have done purple here. We should have done. No, I thought about that, but budget. Yeah. Sir, I use that a question for a while now. Thank you. Mr. Greifers. Hi, folks. The tracking is important. But what is really going to impact father and wife in the neighborhood is changes in population density. So, while we're having meetings, I think that should be addressed very, very soon. Probably by one officer that can't say not my department. You really should see the city managers out here. Pitching pub. Pitching part of the plan for increasing population density. That's part of what we're interested in. That's not part of what we know about. It is. If the city manager's office is doing it, you can't say not my department. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Greifers. It's not me. It's not me. Yeah, make sure you put your comments on that. Yes, sir. Good morning, Carl. We get traffic. Peak hours are identified as 6.30 to 7.30 in the morning. In the evenings, I believe, were 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock. And you had a noon peak that went from noon to one o'clock. No excuse me. 11.30 to 1.30. So it's peak time. That's typically when the traffic studies are done. Well traffic counts were taken for a week and we also at the intersections did peak hours to for all the terms that went along for an hour period that captured those peak periods. We got the we got the seven-day counts which gave us the weekday peak hours and within those hours that's when we identified the terms. So that's important. We took counts on the left turns as well. And so that's all accounted for with this assignment. Right. That's how the driveways and the left turns were targeted because those were the primary ones were the majority of the left turns either on the northbound and southbound to the place. And that's why the meeting was placed as it was based on the traffic volume they had. And what was the traffic status? Traffic City was done in 2019? 2019. 2019 I think towards the end of 2019. I want to say without having the benefit of the knowledge that's that's development is dealt by a different department. Transstitial public works as a small portion and it's not our department our division. I want to say that they're required to do a traffic study before they're permitted but I don't quote me on it. I would have to. Typically they are. Yeah, typically they are. But I don't know if that's the case on a what we call an established thoroughfare. I can't tell you if they have or not but that's that would be the requirement. I can tell you if they have I cannot tell you if they have or not but that would be what I would think. Yeah. I'm sorry. Tom Simmerly is yeah and so I can provide that information to you. I'm sorry I said TPW had to do they used to be part of TPW now they're part of development services. Yeah. So let's. Access from that department area to supply still is that still going to be required? I wouldn't know that either but I can I can chase down who might have an answer for you on that and that might be Tom. Are you Margaret? Catherine. Catherine. I know Margaret. Okay. Okay. I spoke with the Margaret. I'm sorry. We had a meeting with Margaret about the same issue. Any other questions? Any other questions? Phase two is probably four or five years from now to start construction. Yeah. What that's still that's in the early phases hasn't even been signed. We're just barely engaging an engineer in the contract. I don't know what the what I don't know the timeline for I-30. Yeah. So then the bridge part and up to university grads won't happen for them. That's future. Yeah. And I won't be here by then. Yeah. That's future. Yeah. University phase two is federally funded. So that takes a little longer. Yeah. Probably six year from now construction. That's what kind of stretches it out. Yes, sir. No, we do not anticipate taking part in no, it's got some we don't anticipate that again on university phase two is kind of the same scope that we're doing a phase one. We're not widening road. We're just providing sidewalks, connectivity, crosswalks, street lights and repaying the road the existing road. So it's not a wine and project out in lanes. Trust me, we deal with parks department. We try to avoid that. That's not the folks we deal with. All right. Oh, no, that's not the folks that we usually deal with. They do protect their parks. Yeah. They do. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much coming tonight. Again, make sure you put your comments and writing and turn them in of a better chance of getting responded to in writing. So thank you for being here, what is here?