 Was this an Asian on Asian hate crime or is the internet just looking way too much into this? Yeah, let's run the clip You guys saw it this is an incident that took place in Elmhurst Queens over literally what seems like a super trivial parallel parking incident and Yeah, there's so many discussions taking place on the internet and there's a non Asian discussion as well as an internal Asian discussion So we're gonna get into it break down all the angles. Make sure you like subscribe and turning your notifications Also, check out smaller sauce. It is our very own chili oil shipping out right now. I guess David I guess this is surprising because this is an Asian guy and we we can only guess what type of Asian he is But we know that the woman is Thai. Well, I'm assuming he's Korean be it most people think he's Korean That's what the comment section said. That's the demographics of Elmhurst. It's possible. Yeah I believe the lady for sure is Thai, but she could be what like Chinese Thai, right? So she's speaking Thai and then basically he tells her to go back to China calls her a dumb, you know be and Tells her to go back to China twice So it's like this phrase go back to China is only something that you usually hear from non Asians Saying it to what they think is a Chinese person now We have an Asian American who is cursing at a Asian immigrant who is actually Thai Chinese But basically being treated as Chinese right right right so basically the internet was confused Some people are saying this happens in my community as well amongst like African versus black black versus African assimilated Latinos that are second third fourth-gen versus first-gen and other people were just confused obviously within the Asian community People there was some discussion of like oh man Koreans always talk trash about Chinese or somebody was saying But why do is this seem like Chinese are less assimilated or maybe don't follow the rules as good as For example Koreans so there was a bunch of discussions. We don't know the details I'm not trying to dox this guy, but obviously this was very poor form on his part regardless of what happened during that incident Andrew this guy is looking bad right now. I mean this lady's trying to park Maybe she stops a little suddenly. Maybe she backs up a little bit too quickly. She's clearly just trying to park This happens all the time in this area Parking is very hard to find in New York City and this guy's totally overreacting like to me my overall take is this guy is wrong for this obviously He obviously has some like Anti Chinese feelings in his heart even though he's probably of a different Asian possibly probably not from Elmhurst Realistically because if you grew up there, you know what it is and Elmhurst is half Latin half Asian There's a lot of immigrants there. There's probably a lot of driving that doesn't fit your New Jersey Sensibilities from the suburb. I mean he has frustrations in his own life and he's totally projecting his anti Chinese feelings onto this lady Which he thought was like from China, but basically it's he's wrong A lot of people and or were surprised that he came out of the car and confronted her because men typically do not confront Women let alone elderly women and he has a Christmas sweater crocs and like a kayak Hitch on the top of his RAV4, which just super doesn't fit the profile. Yeah. Yeah, I'm know he's he's got a temper and Obviously this lady, you know got honked at he swore at her She flipped him off then he stops and gets out of his car getting out of your car is pretty aggressive That's an aggressive move man, especially in New York City If he was in the Bronx Andrew, he would not do that. Yeah, no You stay in his car and not even turn his head. I mean, um, yeah I want to preface this all the discussions by saying that like this does happen within immigrant communities Sometimes the more assimilated ones That have been here for Andrew one two three generations They judge the people who just came over right due to what behavioral difference or some sort of perceived behavioral difference it's almost like Even if the same thing happened with an American you perceive it differently You perceive it because their immigrant is because they don't know what to how to live, right? Yeah, it's almost like You know, you'd think that all Asians just because you're ethnically Asian or you seem east Asian or whatever You're all all on the same page But it's actually more about are you on the same page about assimilation Because it doesn't really matter your race as much if my neighbor is latino or my neighbor is an african immigrant And i'm chinese american, but we're on the same page about assimilating together to be to live this american dream Then we're actually going to be more on the same page than this guy and this woman Right, you know what I mean? And and that's what one thing that I think people need to realize is that nowadays With as many asian and different races of people. It's not so much of just your bloodline And just that's part of it. That's a large part of it And sure maybe this Thai lady and this Alleged Korean guy might team up if it was like if she was getting beat up by like, you know A non-asian or something that he might jump in but when there's interactions amongst each other It now comes down to more like oh You're not assimilating like me. You're an immigrant like me You need to go back to china because you're not doing a good job of being an american, right? I mean, I we we don't know we don't know the details I don't even know who this guy it seems like he's saying this is my guess He's probably from suburban new jersey He's not used to driving in queens. He's going to a holiday Christmas party. That's what it looks like and he's not like He doesn't understand in the city the move that she pulled It's not really that crazy Like she turned on her blinkers a little late, but that's almost like how people drive In the city because the parking just pops up on you just stress for the drive in compact areas Yeah, so I actually don't think that her driving was like super crazy It wasn't certainly like swerving through the streets of Bangkok or anything like that But it's like he had a crazy overreaction like you said he might be having a bad day And mentally he might have been on the fritz. Anyway, and let's just get into the comment section Somebody said asians are probably the most racist against themselves. He was probably korean or japanese. They hate the chinese But why do they hate the chinese? Let's we can all I know we all joke about Koreans not liking chinese or japanese looking down on chinese whatever like obviously they're rooted in some History in some reason but I guess well It's funny because historically both sides go against the japanese But in modern day both sides are going against the during the war. It was against the japanese everybody hates the japanese But now a days like i'm saying it's more Really not so much about oh korean chinese you have to dig a level deeper. It's almost like You chinese are not doing a good job of assimilation. I feel like and that's what they're saying for everybody And a lot of koreans have told me this because we have a lot of very lucid conversations that a lot of people don't have They feel like koreans had a better assimilation plan to american norms becoming a christian country Etc than chinese do right and I would say generally There's something to that but that doesn't mean that you can go talk down on them like you're Now a racist white guy and they're they're not knowing how to live fob like nothing justifies what he says Yes, um somebody said man. This guy definitely got a small penis vibe Man, he stepped to a chick for all that. What did she really do and someone said is it okay for abc To tell the asian fob to go back to the motherland. Let's just even assume he was chinese andrew. Okay, let's just let's just play it out He's chinese or die. He's diasporic chinese realistically a chinese is not going to say the two Chinese But he's like of chinese descent from a different country and he's assuming that she's mainland. Okay Does it change it? It's still no, that's wrong. It's just weird. It's wrong, but But and this is not to justify anybody but Like I said, it's really about being on the same page about assimilation. This is like right This is it because like listen, I've played a lot of basketball with fobs and I have friends that are fobs I've dated fobs like it's them being fob in itself is not an issue to me at all In fact, I appreciate it because they can tell me things about being chinese that I don't know You don't have in your knowledge. They can translate things. They can talk to me about things talk to me about life in china It's very insightful. So I love having those friends But I cannot deny that there have been frustrations that I've had because there's a cultural difference because we're not on the same page about assimilation They're not trying sometimes, you know, you meet a fob. They're not trying to be american. I'm like, yo I'm trying to be american, but I'm also trying to be the good parts of chinese But like We got to be on the same page here that we're trying to act and at least understand the american rules for sure And I want to be clear here I think it could be a class thing too because I dated a girl from chandu and she was from uh, Like a little bit more of I guess an upper middle class family She used to judge all the newly arrived immigrants from a different class in china and she used to say stuff like Yeah, I wish they would go back to china But like she wouldn't say it like the way this guy said it but I just want to say that there are some context for not. I'm not completely. No, there's some class Just race it's class and race and socioeconomic status and blah blah blah blah and like you said, I guess I guess it's tribalism I guess it's tribalism. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um and the next Bunch of comments came from a bunch of non-asians that were like wait, but he's never mind I was not expecting him to look like this Basically, this is a bunch of non-asians. They were just like wait, what? Yeah, I mean to be uh, yeah I think the more interesting comments from the non-asians are saying There's people who are like, oh Dominicans are black, but they say racist and if the black people or you see this within our black population You see this happen between cubans and mexicans How a lot of people think cubans and mexicans are similar, but a lot of cubans Will look down on mexicans. I'm not saying all but I'm saying there's that stereotype That's a stereotype within the latino community that there are inter asian hierarchies. Yeah, there are hierarchies within Larger tribes. Yes, that is true. Right. And there's even I guess, um, like a white latino to indigenous latino hierarchy as well Right, like that's the reality of it, right? And then this guy said y'all laughing like most prejudice doesn't ultimately come from within our own race And this girl said I'm from the caribbean But people think I'm from mexico So I've had caribbean folks that I got in the argument with me tell me to go back to mexico But I'm actually even from the caribbean myself, but I could just pass as a mexican. That's interesting How much is it that somebody's just busting that out just as a as kind of a ghetto new york This the second they just think of where you're from like you're not acting right Do you don't know how to behave so go back to blah blah blah of where I believe you're from Or is that that you can't write it off like that It's interesting. It's interesting. I don't know. It's so complex because I guess like If you meet somebody who's clearly from like the south In new york, like let's say they're from louisian or they're from texas And they do something that you're just like, let's go back to texas, bro You're saying the people from louisian or texas taken up the entire sidewalk five because I've seen it I've seen europeans and people from outside They'd be taken up six people uh shoulder to shoulder taken up the whole sidewalk do you but So do you think like let's say for example a new york italian guys like hey go back to the south, huh? What are you doing, huh? Where where maybe that's where you you know, you guys could know how to behave because that type of behavior It's not acceptable. I think any group can do this to the another group once they feel some type of cultural superiority Some sort of whatever reason or moral leverage moral leverage moral superiority cultural superiority social superiority Whatever it is You're going to use whatever dish you can find Against that person right right right somebody some sort of uh tribalistic Superiority somebody said the moment an immigrant gets their citizenship How come all other immigrants can deserve to go back to their respective countries? This phenomenon has been witnessed time and time again as far as back as the irish and the italians in new york city Is there a term for this and someone said yeah, it's like the hispanics and queens right now telling the migrants to go back Well, there are more and you're you're seeing this all across america right now Right because it's like the ones that do get along the ones that came legally the ones that got amnesty The one you know how like there's so many different pathways and then that you maybe feel like your pathway Makes you more valid than another pathway Because of the situations that surround that and the outcomes or probabilities or whatever what what I think really to me That's really interesting about this is because go back to your country is usually something that is said from a different race To another race, but now that it's the same looking type of people even though they're not the same group of people actually But to the outside people were just like yo they visually look the same Someone said ling ling telling ming ming to go back to asia is crazy. That's so fun It won't be ming ming telling ling ling because ming ming would be i'm assuming it would be the male name uh I I think that like uh I don't know does this like You think some non-asians that see this are like gonna justify When they say that like they're like, yeah see asians even say that to each other So i'm gonna so they're saying oh, so it wasn't really just a racial thing i'm like It wasn't me being racist. I was just sounding racial when I was criticizing their behavior But but actually even asians can be racist to other asians. So I don't know man. It's so hard It can be enter enter not just racist immigration, wavist or assimilationist as well assimilationist identarianist they are Are Assimilationists and a lot of people are that now somebody said man I just noticed in general chinese on chinese crime is on the rise by the way I think this person is using chinese as a word for asian So a lot of people don't know Especially more uneducated people andrew they just use the word chinese for all asians I I guess david overall. What can We learn from this or is there is it just being like yo this dude's tripping? He's wrong like he should shut up He sees he he's wrong for that We should but but our asians are gonna go out on a limb and try to track him down And harass him on the internet I'm sure he's had this video sent to him several times because he looks like a guy who probably got a tiktok A snap and everything you know because he looked like gen z. I mean he's feeling some shame right now I think so. It's pretty embarrassing. It's a it's a shameful video because the girl's like She doesn't deserve it. I'm not saying that you know, she's a 10 out of 10 driver or whatever, but like you just can't Treat other people in the society this way to be honest in a civil society I'm not saying people don't asians should know better We come from a place where it's generally not acceptable to act like that. I'm not saying it never happens in asia happens at a lower rate Um, it's unfortunate and I hope you can learn from it. I hope his life is not over To me it's not as puzzling as it is sad like puzzling. I get it Like this person's not chinese. He's frustrated with the way he perceives mainland chinese people to be acting right less Assimilated than he's tried or whatever he identifies as more american eyes This lady is not being american apparently by the way she drives. He's frustrated. He's projecting a lot on her So to me that's not as puzzling. He overreacted. He's wrong But to me it's sad because i'm like dang man asians lashing out on other types of asians Well, now I can expect Non asians to lash out on asians just as much or if not more Right, right, right. I mean it's almost like too much enemy fire to take a friendly That's a jz line. Yeah, well he was just like damn bro, but it happens man fire, but But but of course when you live in a world that's so asian, which elmhurst is very asian Do I think that this is gonna happen? in like You know the interesting thing is I've heard this always used to happen in the 90s When all the asian immigrants were newly arrived and now it's happening again, but sort of in a different way I mean listen, it's I've heard stories of a chinese american saying this to a chinese fall. Yes. I've heard it. Yes. Yes, yes So it's not out of this world because at the end of the day It's just to say you're not on the same page and if you don't want to be on the same page Then go back to your homeland In but in a more like malicious way. That's essentially what they're saying. Do you think it is true that different? Yeah, I mean I'll say this. I do think that different groups assimilate at different rates Uh, some assimilate have a game plan to have heavy assimilation Some are medium some are at a light assimilation game plan I think that that's fair to say that different groups have different patterns of behaviors In a macro aggregate like median statistical sense and um, yeah, I just hope we can deal with it better That's my general feeling like I said, I wish the best for everybody in every community But yeah, these things pop up, you know, but like I said not trying to you know No, I don't think anybody deserves to like have their Have, you know, it's just let it be a learning lesson All right, everybody, let us know in the comments down below what you think about all this hit that like button Let us know if you enjoyed the the conversation and found it insightful And I'll tell you this Andrew one last thing I learned from this post Knowing the difference between a chinese person and all asians all together and that's still not required knowledge to operate in the US You don't need to know. Nope. Nope. Nope. All right, everybody until next time. We out. Peace