 Hey, do you want to move like an athlete but look like a bodybuilder watch this? Our next caller is Colby from North Carolina. What's up Colby? How can we help you? Hey guys, that's going first off. Thanks so much for what you guys do. I really appreciate all the Context you guys bring to this instead of pedaling on one side. It's all kind of things. So I appreciate that I guess a little backstory first 39 Kind of just trying to be a healthy strong guy But like many people who call in that journey started some time ago with CrossFit for me. I Really enjoyed it. You know, it gave me an entry to strength training But I would never benefit from consistency because I would hurt myself be out for two three four weeks Get back into it for a month or two hurt myself so I I straight away I straight away from that and I really like the Olympic weightlifting So I moved to another gym that did Olympic weightlifting and strength and conditioning and then that kind got a little boring for me So I just chose to focus on strength and conditioning Been pretty consistent with that now but So my actual question comes from an episode you guys did recently where you said that Chase performance and aesthetics will follow which I really like that So I'm curious if there is some ways that you can add some movements or some exercises to a strength focused workout that would Accelerate some of the aesthetic gains because I'm not quite there in the ways that I would hope to be okay Well, you can combine you can combine the two we have a sexy athlete bundle I believe which includes maps aesthetic and mass performance and so so think of it this way Let's say you have four workouts in the week Colby You could make two and two right so two performance kind of based to like aesthetic Maybe bodybuilder focused or you go three and one Depending on which one's more important to you or mix it up or you can run one for a while and then We're like that's where the sex is another way to do performance and add the focus sessions in between Yeah, there's lots of ways you could kind of skin this cat. Are you are you familiar with any of our programs? Do you have any of them Colby? Well, that was kind of my follow-up was I've really been looking at them Recently and I've been looking at the one that I think was anabolic to performance to something There was like a little three-pack there But so that was kind of my follow-up question was is there a program you guys would Push me towards that would be a good strength focus that might you know help you get bigger arms in the process or something So if you would allow me to be your coach and tell you exactly what I would want you to do It'd be I'd love to see you run anabolic run performance and then run mass aesthetic in that order in that order Because it literally ideal that it's gonna hit everything that you're looking for and then after you run through all three Those which by the way is gonna take you the next year to get through right each one of them is about three three months or so So once you go through all three of them, then you can kind of do what Sal was saying where you can kind of pick and pull from some of I'm like oh, I'm gonna run, you know two days a week. That's gonna look like maps performance the other two days I'm gonna pull in maps aesthetic like and that we encourage that right after we tell people like you know Trust the process and and our expertise in building and writing programs Follow it to a tee and then after that you can start to kind of play with and mold To more to your specific goals, and I think that that order would be ideal Yeah, the other thing to consider to Colby's with aesthetics, especially for men is Getting lean makes a huge difference with aesthetics. You get away I mean just getting somebody to get down to you know, nine ten percent body fat And it's like all of a sudden just these aesthetics really start to pop out So I don't know how lean you are I don't know what your body fat percentage or if you've ever really gotten to that point where you you can see That kind of muscle definition But that makes a tremendous difference when it comes to aesthetics and sometimes we think we need We want to get bigger to improve our aesthetics when in fact we just need to get a little leaner Well, this honestly sounds like to me and just because like I'm Susceptible to wanting to just do athletic moves wanting to just do Olympic list wanting to just kind of go in that performance world Only exclusively once I ventured into Hypertrophy training it was game-changer for me And I don't know if you've actually put an entire focus on hypertrophy training specifically, but to interrupt You know that and create a whole new stimulus for your body. It's gonna respond and you're gonna love it Yeah, so we're gonna do you since you don't have those programs will send them to RGB bundles You actually get all three and then follow them in that order maps anabolic Maps performance and then maps aesthetic and you should get a great deal of what you're looking for Great. Yeah, I appreciate it. No problem. There you go, brother Awesome. Thanks guys. You're welcome. You know Justin is is right like he when he actually started to do that his You know sex appeal on the sexometer went from like a before to like a solid six after he started I finally got some of your DM's It was a solid six solid six. Unfortunately. It was all dudes Hey Guy tells you you look good. You look good. That's true. That's probably a better compliment. Yeah, it's a better compliment I think about I think that most guys are actually truly seeking that. Oh, yeah, be honest At this age right now, you're working out of the gym What's more what it's gonna make you feel more impressed if a girl walks up to you goes You have a nice back or if a dude comes up like dude your back is yeah, your arms are looking sick, bro Yeah, I could high-five. Yeah, that's like that's worth like 10 girls Just being honest here. Yeah, I know that his question is common right the whole balancing of Performance and aesthetics they do work very well together. They really do. I mean you can go extreme at one or the other But you can get you can get a great balance with the two because they do communicate well to each other They're not competing, you know signals necessarily like you would find with other type of pursuits Well, we always have to remember, you know, I forget sometimes The amount of people that are probably just finding us today, right? I mean, I don't know exactly what it is But it's probably thousands every day that are listening to the very first show And we just assume that they kind of know the way we wrote these and the intent that we wrote them in right It's and that this is why we wrote this like we wrote the you know Maps anabolic maps performance and maps aesthetic in that order because it really is for the most part There's always exceptions to rule and people with very very specific narrow goals But for the general population that just wants to move better look better get stronger Like that is the order that I would take all those clients in so they could learn kind of the the process of building routines around those specific adaptations and then from there we would mold and modify based off of the things they like they don't like and more Specific to their goals, but I mean when I talk to someone outside of our listener base And I'm telling them other programs like you look at it like it like an education process. That's I mean we wrote them with that intent That's why they have so much stuff inside them is like we weren't just like telling people what go work out go try this workout routine It's like we're trying to educate you on how to build a program for yourself. I can't stop thinking about the sexometer I haven't seen I'll have Chokey posted on Instagram. It starts like this on it Yeah, it's high noon solid six. Hey if you enjoyed that clip You can find the full episode here or you can find other clips over here and be sure to subscribe