 The Lib Dems must be condemned to be treated with maximum contempt forever, they are the ones that effectively allowed David Cameron to impose austerity and to usurp even liberal values. So the Lib Dems, if there is any justice in this world, will go nowhere near government and especially they will not go near government on the coattails of the Labour Party and the Cobins Labour Party. Yes, we do need a coalition, but the Labour Party is the coalition, the Labour Party is a broad church. That doesn't mean that you don't strike deals or you have a good understanding with people like Karol Nain Lukas here in Brighton, from the Green Party, with the Scottish National Party, absolutely, absolutely. But you draw a line somewhere and I think that the line needs to be drawn on the question of austerity and on the question of property rights. Anyone who challenges the need to reverse decades of austerity and anybody who challenges the need to shift property rights from the few to the many should simply have no place in such a coalition. So you're reversing privatisation, the Liberal Democrats disagree, we shoot. They're out. They're out. Let them, you know, hobnob with Johnson, they deserve it. What do you think it says more generally about Liberalism today? It's dead. It's a dead ideology. It's, I mean, not Liberalism, the Liberals Liberalism, because they betrayed it. They introduced, Nick Clegg was responsible for introducing hugely anti-liberal legislation, legislation that denied people, you know, people in their own remand, their basic habea corpus rights. So when the Liberal Party, it's a bit like Syriza and Greece, when the coalition of the radical left cuts the lowest pensions there are, privatizes everything and imposes huge stringent austerity. It seems to be, it's not that the left has failed, it's not that the socialism has died as an idea. It's that this party is no longer able to be counted as part of the left. Similarly, I mean, I think that Liberalism is always going to be with us. And I have a Libertarian stake in me. And I think that Karl Marx had one too. You can't be a believer in the emancipation of the working class of women, of blacks, of minorities, and not be a liberal. Emancipation is a liberal and even Libertarian project. But the Lib Dems have abandoned Liberalism a long time ago.