 Welcome back to the breakfast and plus TV Africa. Now let's move to our major news papers and see what we can find over there We of course are joined this morning by Demola a king ball at the publisher of the podium media And he'll be joining us after we share a couple of these stories. I'm starting with the punch newspapers this morning I'm sorry the oh, well, let's go with the punch newspapers and see what we can quickly find over there To share with you the big one there says governor's opposed. Buhari's executive order 10 back Financial autonomy says la long Also federal government can't force governors to enforce financial autonomy That's from the platoset governor once again NGF plans talks with judiciary workers to end Jusson's eighth day strike a Dayboy visits El Rufi governor says Nigeria needs divine intervention And also cops and hunters go after abductors of three women on the bad on Ijebo de road We can also find on the Pontius morning Jambe accuses University of Abuja and others of giving illegal admissions I carry the low and least CP support alleges ex-deputy keeping government vehicles Also on the Pontius morning EFCC picks up Rocha Socorrocha ex-governor faces interrogators over money laundering Sarah key 2023 presidential bid post as flawed Abuja And I'll say also we can find manufacturing sector intervention fund now 803 billion naira and that is from the CBN DPR is saying this morning boy and 27 others now have active refinery licenses These are the big stories on the punch newspapers this morning okay, so I've got the nation here and If you take a look at the front page, you see a couple of pictures One is a tree that was uprooted when a windstorm destroyed hundred houses and schools in Agulieri That was yesterday Agulieri is in Annambara and right beside that you have another picture of students You know under a tree studying it doesn't look good at all Displaced people's under a tree and then right below that you see one of the schools with its roof blown off same thing yesterday And then you have this one here screaming I pop says it will be I'll go a waste of resources you find the details of that on page five And then let's go above the mast head where you have this one fire she alleges Overvoting at Southwest PDP Congress. That's a surprise to me. I mean considering that everybody accepted and what happened Well, we'll talk about that in details Soon, then you have this one police inspectors killed Gunstooling in Abuja and Delta and then you have at the boy who predicts and then to insurgency Soon that's a bit of good news. I'll say amen to that. You also have the story millions lost to Quarra Market in Fano Major headline here governor's kick against Buhari's executive order. There's just one rider to that story He says we don't need executive order 10 to implement financial autonomy for legislature judiciary right below you have this one here Undo reports ex-deputy governor to police and then you also have Nigeria's Polio-free status threatened that is alarming, right? But those are the stories we have on the front page of the nation. All right moving on to the daily son EFCC arrest and detains ex-emo governor or curvature ex governor held after five-hour standoff It was a mere invitation and that's from or courage has aid As fight against criminals gets tougher army recalls retirees It says here. We took step to support national security operations. That's from the chief of army staff IPOB dismisses the beweago formation says ESN best for Igbo security Ute's hail new joint security outfit as was rookie brands ESN social media outfit Also this morning on the daily son FCT reintroduces pack-and-pay policy in Abuja and Anambra humanitarian APC Kettica committee to meet on timetable and sale of nomination forms Paso Adeboye APC go spiritual on security challenge Nigeria will soon overcome problem says the RCCG general over sear I think I we're gonna stop there Or I'll just quickly squeeze in this one police strike federal government invites Asup to two separate meetings Okay, so I've got the daily independent You have this one here jet a1 at 200 and 75 Nara Palita in crazy sphere of adulteration Fair hike and then right below that you have a jam back uses you near Buja Others of admission racketeering and then you have hundred percent physical cargo exam huts ease of doing business Also, you have on the front page of the daily independent EFCC arrests and grills or culture then an NPC records a drop in pipeline vandalism increases gas for power You also have land speculation deals on the rise as the economy remains low Also, we have this one here. Nigerians who won't forgive FG if Port Hackett refinery fails to function guess Who said that it's from itsy-saggy and then you have a COVID-19 stop spreading rumors get Vaccinated unicef tells Nigerians, but can we find a vaccine in the first place? And you also have this one here join a booby I'll go and die That's coming from Apple above the mast head. You have this one. I'm coming from marketers Why FG alone can't crush cooking gas price? Okay, last but not least regular visitation panel to tertiary institutions will hold Strikes that's coming from Jega. That's about it on the front page of the daily independent Alright, there's so much the mona Kimbola over to you now. Let's get your thoughts on these stories. Where would you like to start from? Okay, thank you once again for having me Obviously the ticket to your city is the standoff between Of nose The you financier autonomy for state legislature's and Judiciary Maybe a priest by grant with your more light on the urethane national assembly pass bill Financia astronomy which by the calipi basis is on the first line of charge, which means state governments have little control over the finances. And for two years, this bill was not implemented. So in 2020, President Goery invoked or signed executive order 10, which mandated states to comply with the bill as the maintenance was done. Okay. So in the first instance, you want to ask the government, what are they trying to hide? What is their problem? Not only to legislators and judicialists, your guess is as good as mine. Okay. As long as they control these two after governments, they think that they have absolute power. Possession 121, C of position actually allows legislators and judicialists to enjoy their financial autonomy. Okay. So at the end of the day, I maybe go all the way to the Supreme Court for interpretation. Again, I want to believe that state governments are acting more on the self-serving and very selfish reason. Is it lack of proper interpretation of the law or just a lack of will to implement these laws? Really both. Okay. Because in the first instance, there should not have arising any confusion, any misunderstanding. The constitution is clear. The bill is very clear. The international assembly in 2018, the president are sent to it in 2020 and executive order was also issued. So what why are sub-governments developing code fit? So it's a combination of lack of will and sincerity also. So and this has to go to Supreme Court because LaLong was quoted as saying that this is not again, this is not in line with the constitution. So the Supreme Court will also step in there. But if you ask me, I see the governance pursuing a selfish agenda because if governor to win an election in the state dispense too much money, okay, to put the other assembly in their pockets to share in their pockets. So for them, they can't spend all that money. And that's why you hardly find a state of assembly in pitching the governor no matter how poorly that government is performing. Okay. Because they have this on rating pack and look when this together. So autonomy is something that's new. Okay. And I really look forward to this. The same reason also refused to grant local government financial autonomy despite government's pronouncement on that. So something needs to be done. State governments cannot continue to the country to run some. I've never seen a powerful set of state governments than the ones we have today. And the way they're using the power is not in the interest of the people. The other day the original government went on her to say, we're not going to part of structuring. Are you speaking for yourself? You're speaking for the state. That's not a matter for him. It is the state of assembly representing the take such a decision. So I cited that just to show that state governments believe that they are the alpha and omega of the states and nobody can actually dictate to them how things don't. But yet you need to operate within the constitution. So the other story is your current story. Okay. People say if for political reasons, if it's indeed for political reasons, let the cost decide. It's been asked to come and explain. So let him go and explain. Documents don't lie. Fact are sacred. Okay. We've always said on this program that the Nigerian period system is actually rewards corruption. But you want to ask yourself previous governments, fire issues working free. Empories in Nigeria was just guilty until the was found guilty. I mean, it was a joint innocence until it was found guilty abroad. It's the same thing with Alamecia. So let's see what happens. I'm not excited. I'm not because of this because we've seen this before. Foushia's case is there. So long list of people, celebrities who have been invested by the FCC makes so much noise. It's more of a media trial. Really, the kind of the day Kalu today is working free. So what I was talking about, but it's a good step. Let's see how it unfolds. All right. There's also, it's also something we might bring or we definitely will be bringing up on our discourse this morning on the program. And that is the campaign posters of Boko Lata Araki, Flaude, Nabooja. You know, what's your reaction to that? Some people are just fine. I want to think it's preemptive is too early. Okay. Well, frankly, I, I, I, I, the attempt to push the North Central region forward as, oh, our time, because of the parties to decide station is, is, is an unwritten agreement in the corner of the two political parties. Okay. So I, I do not see Araki being able to present it for me to perform. But hey, it's too early. Let's see how, how, how do you think this out? But definitely someone is testing the waters out there. Testing the waters, indeed. Well, let's take a look at what Issa says, Sagi just said that Nigerians won't forgive the federal government if the Port Hackett refinery fails to function. There are people who are full and against, you know, this thing about the Port Hackett refinery, you know, being revived. I wonder on which, which side do you stand, you know? We've already taken a stand against successive governments on that issue that know and justify the current state of Port Hackett primary. That, that, that, no reason for it. Okay. So, yes, of course, it is, it's right to say that, but government hasn't told us why the refines are not working. They keep giving us excuses. This refinery keep going for tunnel. Nothing has happened. And before you know it, the refines will become another Dakota state factory with obsolete equipment. And I love you. That's just my fair. The refineries, I do not know if they are still contemporary, I do not know if the components are still modern. So why do you keep sinking? One of the 1.5 billion dollars is a lot of money. How much did it cost to build its own refinery? So the issue of petroleum defining is something that has defied all logic. Nobody has been able to confuse us on why the refines are not working. So Nigerians are, they have been, 10 years ago, they, they, they, they, they took a stand that government has not done very well at all. Okay. They've done very well. You can be put petroleum and you produce good oil. We take it approach to refine the benefits century to the money we have. It's prosperous. All right. Let's, let's move to the southeast now where the IPOB is, of course, dismissing the Abel Beagu security setup by the southeast governors. You know, what's also your reaction to that? The IPOB says the ESN is the only, you know, security setup that will work for the southeast. Of course, when we had this discussion earlier in the week, you know, there was, you know, the narrative that both of them can work together to secure the southeast, but the IPOB doesn't seem to be on the same page. Yeah. I mean, the way one could look at it is that what is the level, what is the acceptability level of IPOB in the southeast? Beyond all the noise that Kalu is making in, in social media, is really on the ground. If the governance of the southeast has come together to create the security at feet, IPOB, even though it's one of the stakeholders of the southeast, IPOB on the phone cannot securely rubbish what they've done. Okay. Why you want to suggest that, okay, governments of this state should engage in consultation with all stakeholders, but I do not see IPOB being attracted seriously to this new security at feet. IPOB will have to work with this at feet or just keep quiet. That's my view. Okay. It's just like OPC saying that Amazon will not work. Yeah. Let's also take a look at this one here on the front page of the punch. Adeboje visits El Rufi, and then we have El Rufi saying that Nigeria needs divine intervention and then Pastor Adeboje also saying that Nigeria's problems, especially insurgency will soon be over. What's your take? I would like to share the optimism of the man of God, but at the same time, there's a role for the spiritual, there's a role for the secular. Question which you asked is, are we doing the right things? Do we have the right policies, tactics in place to tackle insurgency? We've been praying that God will intervene, and I believe that those prayers are what I sustain in Nigeria today, but hey, we can push our luck too far. Okay. A serious country will do a lot more than what we're doing now, save that the life of the people. We're not doing that now. There's hardly a day that you don't lose stories of kidnapping, murder and all that. It doesn't mean we're not praying enough. We pray every Sunday in these churches for God to intervene, but God is not coming to do for you what you should do for yourself. So with your respect, I share the optimism of God's Adeboje that it will soon end, but it won't end if we don't do the right thing. It won't end if we don't do the right thing. We're not funding as culture forces. Okay, look at Nigerian Army recalling retirees. Okay, these retirees, are you paying that pension regularly? Are you taking good care of them? Are they well fed? Are they satisfied, medically fit? So we have a long way to go. Anybody can wake up and say, oh, this is going to happen, but nothing moves in life unless you move. It's not going to happen. United States, if America comes so much money into difference, we also pray. So we're going to strike the balance between the two. Let the men of God continue to pray for peace all in Nigeria. Let government also do what is required for also have peace in Nigeria. Demola Kimbola, thank you so much for your thoughts this morning and for speaking with us. Looking forward to another episode where you of course can join us. Wish you a great day ahead. Thank you so much. Moving on, take a short break. When we come back, we're sharing with you what happened today in history. I'm going back to the year 2014 to speak on one of the biggest moments in Nigeria's history, but not a good moment. We'll talk about it when we come back. Stay with us.