 Okay, we're back live here at EMC World wrapping up day two. This is SiliconANGLES exclusive coverage. We're live on the ground in Las Vegas, and this is theCUBE, our flagship program. We go out to the events, extract a signal from the noise, and we have a very special guest here. My co-host, of course, is Dave Vellante, wikibond.org, and we have our special friend and our new best friend. Our new best friend. Richard Schlesinger, a network broadcast, a real professional correspondent. You've done tons of great work. The body of work that you've done in the business has been fantastic, 48 hours, among other things. And you're here at EMC World doing some work there. Welcome to theCUBE. Thanks. This is great. This is like having the shoe on the other foot. You're interviewing me. This is theCUBE. You've interviewed us at the EMC Big Data Special. And we had a great time. Great time. You're fantastic. Dave and I were both in awe of, like, that's how a pro does it. Maybe we can up our game on theCUBE sometime. Yeah, we're hackers. It's like, I don't understand a word you guys say. You're great at it. How are you? So how's things? Things are great. I mean, I love coming to these events because it's like, I describe it as an alien universe. It's like, these guys, you know, these guys are going to run the world. So it's good to know what's going on in the tech world. And if I may coin a phrase, extract the signal from the noise. So that's always fun. So yeah, it's a whole learning experience for me. I mean, there's a treasure trove of stories here. I mean, you're a storyteller and you let the pros do their thing. You let the guys like EMC look under the hood. I mean, you don't really get under the hood. But you'd have to talk to folks and do that. But there's a lot of good stories here developing. The future is unwritten. You got guys like Paul Moritz. You know, that's a really good way of saying it. History is being written as we speak, right? I've become fascinated with the whole big data thing. Big data fast data and all the challenges, the opportunities and the challenges. I mean, I really think it's going to change the world. Any observations as you look at the signals, smoke signals coming out of the show? I mean, because you have fresh perspective. You're not in the weeds like the geeks, but you're looking at it from a landscape and holistic perspective. Right, you look at it how it works. I look at it in what it can do, what the work can do. And you look at New York City, right? New York City's looking at big data. I mean, to your audience, this is old hat, but to the real world, if you will, this is huge. New York's using big data to determine where potholes need to be fixed and stuff like that. I mean, this type of thing is going to change the world. Yeah, well, one of the things that we've been tracking is, and I don't know if you saw it, but GE put a big investment into one of EMC's, Impivital and this whole internet of things and the industrial internet. Yeah, the internet of things. I was getting ready to do a couple of interviews here tomorrow and I was reading up on this. And the GE guy said that machine to machine communication is going to change the way they do business. And it's an amazing quote, if you think about it. I mean, this is general electric, for Christ's sake. It's amazing, right? General electric, and EMC sells a lot of stuff to General Electric, you know, storage and so forth, but now they're essentially partners in going to business to essentially change the world. But I mean, who called EMC General Electric last year? What's up? You? He did, John. Yeah, that's right. He's the visionary. Yeah. Well, no, but they're portfolioizing. You look at Chuchy, he's proud. And he's got four brands, four companies. That's GE in the making. If EMC continues on their torrid pace of innovation, they are the tech version of GE. But isn't it interesting though that one of the oldest industrial companies in America is now trying to get on board with big data and the analytic part of it. I just, you know, this is when we said earlier that history's being written. I mean, these are the guys who are doing it. So being here for a journalist is quite an experience. Any stories you're kicking the tires on here? Do you see any stories? You must see a lot of things popping out. Probably not for the network because, you know, general media, you know, it's hard to explain a lot of this stuff. We have done a lot of stories on the results of data innovation generally. And that's like, that's incredible. You know, we're, you know, you look at the technology that we're able to use now just in doing our work. It's unbelievable, isn't it? It's unbelievable. It's completely changed, completely changed the way we do business, which is why I thought this quote from the guy GE was interesting because he said that, you know, they know that their business is going to change. Well, I love the fact of how we met, right? So we did the, the first cube we ever did was EMC World in 2010. Yeah. And we have, you know, you see our little cameras and our crew and our equipment, we drop it in and then EMC TV starts, right? And so they're doing their whole thing. And there's so many people that want to consume this type of information. It's a real hunger for me. There's something like 5,000 people here, right? Oh, many more actually. I think it's 15 is the number. I heard 16,000. I heard 16,000. Oh, the guy who met me told me it was like 5,000. Yeah, 15,000. I thought he hadn't finished counting. But yeah, that's a lot of people. Well, Richard, what's on the plan for tomorrow? What's your schedule like here? What are some of the things you've done here? I'm doing some stuff at the CIO summit about data and security, which I'm really interested in with our COVID-19 RSA. And then when I'm doing an interview with Paul Moritz, who was, you know, a real visionary, we did a session with him in Atlanta at another CIO summit that was just, I mean, blow away fast. Oh, you were down in Atlanta? Yeah. Oh, okay. So there's how that went. I said to Paul, you know, I asked him a question, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 15 minutes off the cuff, right? This guy's talking about it. That's the thing with Moritz. One question, and you're done. It's unbelievable. It's like these stupid people. You know, he flies his own plane. You know, he flies his own plane? Yeah, I know. So do I. So we talked about that. He flew down here. I expect he's a better pilot than I. A lot of data coming off those planes. He might have a faster plane than you. I would imagine. A billion dollars that he has in the bank. But is he happy? He looked happy on stage. I think, honestly, taking the shackles off from running a public company and being the Picasso to paint a fresh picture on the canvas is refreshing. I can see it in his spring and his steps. So it looks like he's refreshed and he doesn't have to work, right? I just think, and you know, Pat Gelsing. Well, these guys have to work. I mean, they don't have to work for them. Well, for the emotional. But they have to work. I mean. Well, Pat Gelsing was on theCUBE when we kind of talked to him about it. In 2010, all this stuff happened and the market's changed. But he basically said, is that, hey, I did the whole big data thing at EMC. It was my passion. I did some things and Maritz wanted to do the cloud apps thing. We ended up got caught running all this stuff here. It was distracting. So let's just give it to Gouldin and we'll go build that out. And it's like, that's what happened. I sat next to Gouldin at a dinner in Atlanta. What a fascinating guy he is. I mean, all these guys, it's just, again, I come back to, you know, from my frame of reference, it's an alien culture. So everything's a learning experience. I got to ask you guys while I have you. I mean, I mean. He's got to flip around on us, you know. Turn the tables back around. What do you see as the big stories here? Well, so this whole, the whole notion of storage as a box that you put data into, it's getting blown away. Yeah. And, you know, the thing, John said to me years ago, Dave, you want to know what's happening with the enterprise? Watch what's happening at Google and Amazon. And that's what's going to happen in the enterprise five or six years from now. It's exactly how it's playing out. Exactly. And that's actually one of the questions that I asked Paul was, you know, how hard was it for you to get used to the idea that, you know, you big enterprise guys can learn a lot from the consumer guys? And it was a tough, it was a tough adjustment for them. The other thing that I would share with you is that what's interesting to me is that the enterprise, people look at this enterprise space and they want to put people, the squares and the square holes and the round pegs and the round holes. And it's not the enterprise anymore. It's the world. So you have a globalization economy going on. And you also have the enterprise is irrelevant the way it used to be. It's a whole nother error. And that is being defined by a whole nother level of value creation, how computing's done and mobile and connected systems do that. And to me, looking back as a student of computing history, we are in an error now that is going to look like what IBM did in the 40s. So IBM in the 40s ran the table because they were the monolithic entity that brought computing. And what we're living in now is a monolithic entity but it's called everybody. And that's all the vendors. It's an operating system. And that's what the cloud brings. So to me, we heard that today from their CTO. Imagine a world where everything's stored for almost forever, unlimited compute power, unlimited memory. It's a little scary. And then the other thing is open source, right? Open source is basically not only free but you could do whatever you want with it is really taking the world by storm, taking the industry with them. It's so democratic. It's like, you know, when blogging first started, right? Anybody with a computer in their basement could be a publisher, right? Right. And, you know, this is sort of the same thing. It's like everybody, it's just- Wikonomics, baby. Couldn't have put it better by itself. So, you guys probably are in a hurry, but. That was great. We're live. We have unlimited air time. Give me a bottle of water, I'll stay forever. So, you see this whole open source thing is like a huge story for you, right? Yeah, so open source. What about on the non-geek side of the thing? What about, I mean, are you excited by the potential that big data and analytics has? Yeah, I mean, I am blown away. Right, called real world. Yeah, so we just had Cheryl Chamberlain on who's EMC's Women of the World. And you're seeing conversations shift the business value. It's the business leaders now that are changing. And that's also spreading into society. People are learning how to code at a young age and it's hitting consumers. So the consumer world that we knew of Brick and Mortars, which was physical world, had nothing to do with tech. But all those actions are going to be embracing tech in a way that's not going to be geeky like this. It's going to be normal and natural. I think Google Glass is the one step towards this kind of Star Trek-like. But I think that's an indication that you're going to start to see computing and tech come to the consumers, but it has to be natural. Right, I think we talked about this when we were together the last time, which is what's it going to look like to guys like me? What's all this huge blast of data going to look like when I sit down at my laptop? It should be invisible to you at some level. It should be ultimately benefits. That's the challenge, isn't it? Yes and no, right? So we've already started to see it. Whenever you're flying back, you're flying back next to somebody. You used to fly empty planes. Data and big data is helping the airlines fill up planes. Some of the best tech values in the world. It's good in a way because they're making some money and you know, but the other hand. Richard, we got to wrap up. Great to see you. No, we got to interview you. Honreak, we'd like to have you come back. We'd love working with you and you're doing some great work. We have big admirers. Thank you so much. Okay, we'll be right back with Honreak from EMC who manages the SAP relationship. We're going to talk business, speed of business, EMC, all that business value. Quick check in with our friend, Honreak. Right back.