 Feeding feeding like that. I'm back to the Nintendo Prime podcast I am your host as always Nathaniel Ruffal Janssen otherwise known as the Nintendo Prime and to my left in your guys Is right is the co-host with the most this he's made Almost every episode we've ever had pretty much. I think like two you missed maybe three The reboot work work. Yeah things were happening. You were gone like I know there was what? Like ten episodes ago. You were gone for like two of them. Yeah, it was weird You're supposed to be gone two weeks in a row and then you go one week back one week Yeah, yeah, it was it was insane. I don't know we're back We're here to have a very good time. I know our current topic still in this layout still doesn't work So sorry guys. I know right well I mean technically this podcast isn't really set up to have just two people But I mean it is what it is. I'm actually curious No, does this work? Does the end in e show button work? I mean it'll switch it, but will our camera angle be correct? Oh? Almost hey That's not half bad. I'm just not in the right spot. I'm I'm censored you're not so I mean for those What listen to the audio version? You're like what the hell is going on? Yeah, we have we have special things we do the video version, but we don't we don't technically have that set up to use at The moment because what we're talking about today doesn't require that we have to show you anything today But we do have that capability if we ever needed to do it so Eric how you doing You've been here for a couple hours, and I haven't even really said a word to you other than food Here's my food eat your food eat right right? Yeah. Well. No, we really haven't hot That took yeah, that was gonna say I had to watch the couple of hours You know I've watched a couple episodes the the 2017 duck tails and dude. Yeah, and yeah, I know it was It's definitely been interesting Yeah, I am Not terrible a little tired today, but not as Terrible as I normally am so Yeah, you know it's it's not bad Yeah It's been a Long week now. I will say something long weeks just part of being a parent right? So I got my kids other spring concerts and everything this week and they go to different schools So like that's eating up tomorrow. I got another one to go to But besides that it's been a pretty nice last week just Really busy a lot of stuff going on with family, but also Been doing a lot of behind-the-scenes work on Prime Gaming Fest That we will share or at least talk about some of those details tonight So you guys might know some of the details we're going to talk about Some don't and some things might get decided right here on the podcast while we're live because Eric and I Haven't really had a truly long sit down to really organize everything. Yeah, no We just had all the time yeah, it's busy as hell. Yeah, and it feels like we're not gonna have time to like the day before and that's right That's very right. We have to inventory still on all of our physical items Which there is it which is on and there's more still coming I'm scared We have more physical items being given away this year than at last year's E3 extravaganza already And there's still more coming That's scary. It's just a lot put it this way if I moved the pile over to this desk There would be no room the whole desk would be covered guys It's insane and there's more coming. I just had confirmation of shipping today for 10 Gully kit King Kong Pro 2 controllers $70 each hall sensors no drift amazing triggers have all of the features of the pro controller Literally the best controller for switch I Literally made a video calling it. They didn't pay me for it. They I made a video calling it the best controller for switch I wasn't joking and we're gonna have like 10 Technically, I think 11 to give away Hmm They were sold out on Amazon. I made my video within 24 hours. They sold out on Amazon But I wasn't the only one to make a video on it, right? I Think Bob Wolf made a video on it around that same time He did I don't know that he called it the best controller for switch But he really liked the original King Kong controller And he didn't end up really enjoying the King Kong Pro 2 controller But I had the more click-made title I think which made up which made a lot of people watch my video go. Oh shit. I Gotta buy that thing. Yeah I know a lot of people in the comments section mentioned that I'm buying this now buying this now and a whole bunch of you guys have actually gotten your King Kong Pro 2 controllers now off the Amazon and Love it. It's been nothing like it for once it felt good to make a video or the product And I actually believed it is the best and then other people buy it and then they confirm holy shit Nate's right. This is like a game changer Why the hell didn't I buy this controller and we're gonna have 11 of them to give away even though They can't keep them in stock on Amazon You're welcome everybody. You're welcome Hopefully no no confirm. It's shipped Yeah, it's shipped all tenor in the package. I saw the box. Yeah saw the box. So I'll drop it off Okay, so it's coming as long as it doesn't get stolen. Oh, right. That's why I said hopefully but I mean that's it USPS can fuck off But yeah, we have a lot of those packages literally arriving every day. We had another package arrived today more coming More to do we still haven't made our trip to the the local game store You have to grab some more stuff because we have a we have a really we have a really amazing We didn't have this last year local. No, I picked some stuff local down across nerd style pop gun pop gun basically And it's it's got so much crazy stuff and we're not like gonna go in and buy out the store or anything But well, we're gonna get some items from there. We already have a lot of pieces from there But we're gonna get some more and don't worry when we ship those art pieces. We'll probably put them in like a plexiglass Frame or something like some just a cheap frame from Walmart basically Just to make it to you. I really don't care if the plexiglass survives. It just matters that the art survives I did think about though this year that we could do tubes Possibly roll them up Because when because we get them yourself you're gonna reframe them anyways guys generally. Yeah, so You know, I don't know it works for posters I'm like the only doesn't be if we got if we got some of those lenticular art, right? Yeah, can't roll No, I mean try but I don't know that it would end well no probably not But anyways, yeah, it's a lot of fun and we have a lot a lot more stuff. We're gonna be adding to the pile So don't worry If you want more information on that I've been posting pictures on Twitter like every day when we get new stuff coming in But we will eventually once it's been finalized on all the physical items Really start the advertising campaign on the physical stuff we're giving away, but then I also want to start including like Images of all the digital code then not all the digital code but each digital game we're giving away and like superimposed And on the image as well as people to see just everything we're giving away remember to be careful So we don't forget an item like we did last year. Yeah, you know what? You know, it's funny about that Yeah Anyone who gets mad at me because I put up an advertising post right for the show And if there's an item in that post that we somehow forgot about because we have so many items We did we did we legitimately try to give away an item last year I'm gonna kindly ask that anybody who's gonna have a gripe with that just unsubscribe now and go watch somebody else Me I mean to be honest. Yeah, I don't have to give away jack shit. I don't have to work with these companies I don't know how to spend my money in fact. I have a cruise coming up I could just cancel the whole show return my stuff and Buy every single a melody on my cruise upgrade to the the giant royal suite and the tower because it's still not rented out yet Cuz nobody can afford it. Well, I could afford it if I return all my stuff Well, I mean what are you talking about just eBay right there? I mean That would that would do that would completely sell it. I wouldn't do that my eBay But I mean I would pay for that would pay for a couple cruises. I'm not kidding guys when I say we already have Almost three thousand dollars worth of physical items to give away almost three grand Right now And then digital code wise adding all that up I mean we're I think right on the cusp of breaking a hundred digital codes and there's even more coming so I'm I'm stoked guys. This is gonna be an amazing celebration of gaming an amazing Time and by the way those digital codes don't include e-shop gift cards Which I still haven't purchased yet, but I am gonna be purchasing them Unlike last year ahead of time and the codes are gonna be on the sheet that we get keep trying that was that way We can just get you the digital codes right away for certain e-shop gift cards We boy the only difference will be if there's a spontaneous one But I'm gonna like purchase it while I'm giving it away So we have it. Thank you I'm not gonna wait till later because then the people bitch and it gets confusing We're gonna be more on top of it this year From last year hopefully the only thing no, no, we will be the only the only thing I will say is if there's a giveaway for a future game I'm still have the code yet So if we decide because say Nintendo does some big breath of the wild to blow it and I say screw it Let's give away a couple copies of breath a lot too Cool. Why can't give you the code yet? No, I mean, yeah But that's that's obviously understandable. So well, we'll worry about that We'll cross that road when we get there because I'm kind of spontaneous Sometimes I throw some extra giveaways in there depending on the budget available at the time So it's gonna be a lot of fun. I can't wait for that So have you been playing any games lately? Just like a Star Wars Still just going after it. I beat the first three Stories and I think I I've decided I'm gonna go in the trilogy's So play through the first trilogy of story then move back 100% that story or that trilogy The gamer he is and then next trilogy loop back 100% that one So it should get easier as time goes on because of the multipliers and shit But like if you ever wonder the difference between Eric and I would a game like I play more games than he does But when he dives into a game, it's 100% he's going for everything He ain't pussyfoot. It's trying to anyways as long as he enjoys the game, of course Yeah, he doesn't end up liking it. He'll end up not doing that Like I'm pretty sure rest of the wild you did not get all the coraxies. No No, God, no, I think when I get all the shrines. Oh, yeah, yeah when I beat it. I think was 37% Apparently, yeah, you didn't do all the sidequests. There's a lot of sidequests There's a shitload of sidequests. Yeah, I think a lot of it's probably Coroxides and Coroxides are a good chunk of the photos of everything. Remember how much the coroxides like from coroxid 1 to 900 How much of that is the total percent of completion? I'm actually very curious. Like is that like 30%? I'm actually very curious how much of the percentage it is I don't know. I've never collected all 900 That my my main playthrough that no longer exists That had like 500 plus hours into it. I have like 700 plus seeds, but I didn't get them all. I didn't get them all That can't 72% it makes up 72% 70% percentage No way is it really 72% 100 coroxides see core XT location 72% So basically you just into the car. Yeah, pretty much Well fuck That is a huge percentage Yeah, 72% of the game. Yeah for completion percentages coroxides. Yep. Well, son of a bitch That's a big fucking game. There's so many side quests and that's only makes up 38% I was gonna say I'm pretty sure I didn't Majority the second yeah Holy crud that is absolutely insane That explains what my completion percentage was much higher than yours when I had 700 coroxides and I didn't do all the side quest Yeah, because the coraxies make up more. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, like there's still that one village that one secret village I never I still to this day have a visit. Oh, hold on The best part is it's the four divine beasts make up only 0.32% of the game Well, I mean, no, I know that I mean, they're a big part of the story Right, but they're like some of the biggest quote-unquote biggest parts of the game only makes up like the dungeon nothing of the game It's obviously but that's just insane. Yeah Um Joy CJ accidentally collected all the coraxies I need to are you sure joy see I know how much you love Zelda I don't I don't know if that's a Accident it's we're like you weren't keeping count, but you kept doing it anyways I know you could accidentally find all 900 like I'm not saying that you intentionally go to do it But you are exploring the map so much what? Honestly, everything looks like it's oh, nope. Nope. That's never mind. That's point. Yeah, everything is 0.08% Literally, yeah, like all nine core oxy's are 0.08% each divine beast is 0.08% They made it very consistent. Yeah, they did actually That's that's crazy Yeah, anyways Well, well joy see what's funny is what you've what you've proven and not looking for them But accidentally picking up all 900 or whatever is that if you're really really into exploration and you take the time to explore the entire world You're just gonna find all the core oxy's Just by exploring the world, you know and like what the hell that looks out of place over there. Let me touch something. Oh, Korak Yeah, literally I just looked at the breakdown of everything is literally pretty much everything is literally 0.08% or 0.09%. That's crazy So over here, I did I did I play a few Madden games are again I don't really count that just cuz I'm in some leagues I don't even play all my games on leagues anymore I'm probably getting to the point that I want to cut down to maybe one league and then eventually stop Just kind of yeah, I'm kind of waiting for the next one, right August new one comes out new season Kind of waiting to see what happens with that got the Rooks get the Rooks like how it looks are actually gonna be rated rather than right It's gonna be interesting and then besides that I did finally get my switch charged up all the way That's a start. It's sitting right here It's been dead for two weeks with Mario in the headphones And some other things happening with Mario. Yeah But uh, yeah, the switch is finally charged, which means I will be playing some tonight. That's what that means I've noticed that when I don't keep my switch charged and it dies. I just end up not playing it But when it's charged I play it And I don't keep a charge in my room And that's usually where I'm playing my switch when I'm not doing live streams or recording footage But I need to I need to get back into playing anyways because We got those 4k gamer pros that I want to do a video on Mm-hmm, and some of the games that people want footage of it's not like I need a bunch of it And I don't get a ton of footage right guys I need like a couple minutes and you know various games You know a couple minutes of it without the 4k gamer for a couple minutes with then it didn't go across like a dozen games or something It still adds up to like a half hour 40 minutes of gameplay But I want to make sure like I want to there's some moments in some of the games I want to capture that I think will look best that would actually require that I remember how to play them Like if I went and played Breath of the Wild right now, I'd probably just get my ass kicked Because I don't even remember how the controls By the way, I probably couldn't even draw a bomb out right now and throw it Right, I don't when I don't continuously play games. I'm not at that age anymore that it's like riding a bike It's not let me tell you I didn't ride a bike for 10 years I got on a bike last week could ride it just fine Sorry me playing video games, and I haven't played Breath of the Wild since what E3 last year It ain't like riding a bike. I don't know it's not. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I haven't played Mario 64 Before E3 last year it came back to me like a bike it had been a year and a half Yeah, you are talking about me It's been a year and a half since I played Breath of the Wild when I played it before E3 last year I played it a little bit because I knew it would end up playing at your boring parts of the E3 show and I literally forgot how to draw my bow Yeah, yeah like in it. I'm not by the way I Will say it's not like I'm playing the game like I've never played it before because I could pick up all the controls Pretty much within a half hour But still that first half hour I look like you were like you never I look like Yulia Like I've never touched twin stick gaming in my life, and I don't know what I'm doing It's bad and it frustrates you cuz you're like I remember being really good at this at one point Yeah, what happened all right about my brain just forgets when I don't play for a long period of time The only games that I will say kind of stay the same Mario Kart I Cannot play that for years pick it right back up, and I'm probably just as good as I was years ago Why controls haven't changed him Carton how long never I don't know It feels like it's been the same almost all the way dating back to the n64 I know that there's been some slight tweaks here and there but for the most part of the basic gameplay stay the same So it's pretty easy a to accelerate be not to power slide throw items Yeah, pretty basic right So so that to me is a bit like riding a bike when I play and like you said oh when he picked up Mario 64 It was like riding a bike for you. Oh, I'm sure it was one. It's like you're one of your favorite games If not, you played the absolute shit and you played way more of that than I mean I've beaten it a couple times, but like how many times are you beating it? several in forward and reverse See that's I don't have any game that I've done that with And breath was my favorite game all the time and I put a lot of hours into it But but that's kind of the it comes out of the kind of gamer I am though So a lot of gamers replay games over and over and over again I don't and that's part of the reason why I forget because that's I don't put it in the muscle memory like oh I'll play my game. I'll get my hundred hours in and I'm good I never come back to it again So if I do end up coming back to it like oh, this is one of your favorite games Look at what you suck at it like Okay Okay, can we chill on that but that's just that's how it goes. That's how it goes You know people are very judgmental when you're like, you're not a real gamer. Look what you suck I'm like, okay. Let's play a game. I actually play right now And then you tell me I suck. I probably still suck Never claimed to be good at video games by the way Yeah, I have not been cocky about being awesome at video games since I was like 20 right just to be completely honest like back when I cared about being good Yeah, and being competitive, you know when I used to do the I was actually in like actual Madden Leagues and stuff I cared about being good now. I just yeah My competitive juices are gone. Do you want to blow your mind a little bit more a little bit more what so But I'm just stuck on this breath of the wild shit. This is absolutely crazy So the things that actually count towards the hundred percent are the Divine Beast sure the shrines Yep, locations, which I think is like, you know, you're all the disables your Towns the discovery. Yep. And then the Korok seeds that you can like, okay So the main quest does not go towards your hundred percent your side quests do not clip towards a hundred percent Oh boss doesn't know no so meeting the Divine Beast, which is part of the main quest does yes Find you know the memories does it? Nope That's part of the main quest. You don't have to find the memories. No for completion percentage Your main quest do not your main quest your your side quest your shine. I'm sorry and shine quest It's not 100% if I don't have to do everything your captured memories. You're highly real compendium So main quest side quest shrine quests. What's the are the quest to unlock the shrines? The captured memories Hyrule compendium resurrection towers Metals of honor armor sets and upgrades and horse gear. Those do not count towards your percentage That's someone Nintendo Someone good with a hundred percent the game without actually 100% of the game What yeah, apparently I What so to answer the question in chat? No chest do not count towards the hundred percent what Nintendo You better fix this in Breath of the Wild to this is not my new my new main complaint on Breath of the Wild one Forget wanting to repair items forget wanting dungeons forget everything else The only complaint I have is your 100% checklist is not a 100% checklist What the fix it well, you are gonna fix it now, but make fix it for the next game great great. Oh man Yeah, how good parts of the main quest finding all the whole main quest Not just parts of the main quest the whole main quest The divine beast know what the well that's because they're part where they're trying part of the main question They're a shrine. Oh, but they are part of the main question. You don't have to do this Yeah, makes the game harder, but you don't have to do it. Yeah. Oh Yeah Told you it's gonna blow your mind on that one Yeah, I I agree. It's just think it's the most Highly rewarded game of the year ever has like the most game of the year awards of all time Yeah And they can't even get 100% completions. Oh, yeah, that's a good good point. I see the pet dogs pet dog Dogs yeah, there's been an achievement for it. Yeah, right put achievements in the game That'll fix it all right fine You're gonna come to the position percentage then give me like give me make beating the main quest and achievement Maybe it doesn't It's an achievement. We don't we got have achievements for you good at games Achievement you good at games Oh boy, oh boy. Oh, you kill gold light on no damage All right, I'm that one shot All right, so I guess let's get it right into our topics the first topic Eric, what do we got? Is there gonna be a no-tendo direct next month will it happen? What do we expect our expectations? Ah, so There's been a couple rumors floating out there around a Nintendo Direct next month. Obviously Nintendo is done a direct or a Presentation because they haven't always undirects every single June Well, like the last one. I'm trying to think I Think dating back to 95. It helps with E3 is in June But dating back to like 1995 whenever the very first E3 was Nintendo's had a presentation Every single year in June except for 2020 2020 happened to be the only year until this year there was no So when there wasn't an E3 there was no direct or presentation in June and There's no E3 this year So if you want to look at history history telling you There's no there's we had a weird strange Verizon 5g laden Oh god E3 last year and guess what Nintendo showed up and did a direct But without E3 Nintendo technically has never done a presentation in June without an E3 So I want to be the devil's advocate for a moment and go. Hey History tells you no E3 no Nintendo And I see that and throw it out the window I Don't know I part of me just feels like even though they won't make necessarily call it part of summer gaming fest I just have a feeling that though They'll kind of ride the coattails of it a little bit and probably have one that quote-unquote last day of it Or we don't like that again. We don't know what days are we don't know what days are so let me clarify summer game best So finally having talked to someone who's helping organize the event Summer game fest is just a day It's just you know That's it So then why the hell are these people that are on like the 10th 11th and 12th saying they're part of summer game fest They're not actually so then why the fuck are they saying it? Let me explain So here's how they view and this is how that why they use summer game fest different than E3 E3 views itself as an umbrella You need to all fall under our branding. Oh, you're gonna do an Xbox Bethesda presentation You're doing the E3 Xbox Bethesda presentation. Oh, you're doing a Nintendo Direct You're doing the E3 Nintendo Direct hence why Nintendo hasn't always called it a Nintendo Direct Sometimes they call it a digital event. Whatever it is. It's always been based around E3's branding So E3 has been very forward on our brand our brand our brand which hey They sell merchandise. They do in-person event usually obviously they haven't since 2019 E3 is very inward thinking of it's about us It's not it's actually about the game publishers, but it's about us that that's the way E3 things. I mean, yeah Jeff Keely is different he views summer game fest as basically and a kickoff event and then a roadmap So the kickoff event he views it as well. Here's what we're doing. I'm partnering with all these companies We're gonna do our three-hour event What's gonna be longer than that because they're doing a day of devs as well Which is where the interview a bunch of developers by the way E3 a really great idea. Hmm. Maybe you should take That might that might be their online portion next year So what they're doing is they how Jeff Keely views it is we're gonna kick off All of these events coming by having a bunch of announcements at our event some of these announcements teasing Future events like there might be some Xbox with as the announcements during his big kickoff event That's gonna be teasing. Hey find out more June 12 right But the Xbox Bethesda event is not branding itself as a sub game fest event so What he's doing is he's using the summer game fest brand to say hey The only thing that he feels when it comes to the presentation aspect not the show floor stuff but the presentation aspect that E3 in order in this case his version of E3 should be involved in is Giving people a roadmap of everything that's happening because it might be impossible for someone to keep up with everything that's happening without some sort of roadmap So basically go to summer game fest calm and you can see the events that are gonna be happening none of them are hosted by summer game fest except for day one and His goal with that is to make it Make all the companies feel like they're equally independent equally important and equally not be intrigued or any different than anybody else What's interesting is How it's gonna end up playing out? I have no idea like I think Jeff Keely is gonna appear on camera on a live stream more than just day One I don't think he's a but but it's all about I guess how it's gonna work because they're still organizing it somehow I Don't know why but they still are So Jeff Keely's only goal is to get all these companies if they're going to do presentations to do it within a set time frame That he can create the roadmap for but none of it's gonna be like come to summer for game fest calm and watch all these events Like E3 last year come to E3 and watch all the stuff right here at E3. No, no, no you come to us to find where all the stuff is at So it's kind of like an organizational list Which is fine We do that already which by the way I can tell you right now. You don't need to go anywhere else. Everything will be here Anything presented from June 9th to June 14th all of it will be here Let's overlap No, even if they overlap I have a layout for that We will have both there and I'm even debating I'm doing right here left here audio for it So people can choose which audio they want to listen to Interesting by the way you can only choose headphones, of course But still that might make people thought headphones go night absolutely insane But you know well, it's one of those things where it kind of depends sometimes, you know during these presentations There's some boring parts something to be like, okay It's kind of boring. Let's mute them and focus the audio Well, we'll keep it up in case something interesting starts to happen. Oh, they're showing a really cool game Let's flip the audio and see what's going on But yeah, we're just like last year we had a thing where you can show multiple videos at once We're gonna have it this year as well in case there's some overlap What's interesting though is even though Jeff Keely views it as a roadmap. Here's what I find weird PC gaming shows happening this year. It's also happening June 12th future game shows happening this year shows off games Also happened in June 12th. Neither are listed on summer gamefest.com But if you're just organizing when events are happen, well, those are those are gaming events. Do we not count them? We're gonna we're gonna because they're not single dev Focus focused matter. I mean they're their own. I don't know show up based on what he said It should I don't so my thing is we're gonna have it all here So it's not really gonna matter none of the times actually conflict with each other so far with Xbox It's like almost like they planned all the shows around each other's times perfect for us So basically Sunday is gonna be a very busy day, which is cool Sunday is gonna feel like an E3 day with back to back to back conferences That's gonna be sweet and I'm gonna love the hell out of that until they all turn out to be Verizon Shoot me now, but we'll see what else happens. We don't know who else is going rumor has it Ubisoft isn't isn't gonna be doing anything Besides the kickoff event. They're not gonna do it Ubisoft forward Maybe they just don't have enough to show. I don't know yet about Square Enix I know screenings as a saga event coming up on like the 31st May 31st, but we'll see what happens and we obviously don't know about Nintendo so as a Nintendo focused YouTube channel obviously one of the number one events we care about the most is Nintendo and obviously the whole reason We care about Ubisoft is because hello Mario plus Rabbids Not doesn't mean we can't see Mario plus Rabbids at Summer Game Fest totally cat it could totally be showing off at the kickoff event Like Ubisoft is one of the partners. They're gonna show off stuff. That could be one of the games That's probably one of their bigger games to that they have I mean it could be well They're gonna have have bigger. I mean sales-wise it for a single platform It's one of the the best games they have coming out, but we'll see we'll see what happens Because I don't have any inside information on any games that are specifically going to be shown I hear the same murmurs and rumors everyone else does obviously There's a little Silent Hill rumors out there is Konami gonna show off something a Silent Hill or I don't know But I'm really really excited for the prospect of Nintendo because While Nintendo has never put out a show in June without E3. It's a very small sample size It's just one year E3 didn't happen and that one year happened to be the first major year of COVID Where nobody really knew what to do Everything was disorganized Nintendo themselves and do a single Nintendo Direct the entire year Guess what we already got a Nintendo Direct this year back in February We've had them last year Nintendo seems like they're back on track and if they're back on track Like it definitely looks like with all the games coming out No E3 should be no problem Nintendo's thinking of their schedule. I think they're gonna stick to their schedule There's no reason for them not to go in June right because one thing I always said, you know Nintendo could do it in July kind of clear everyone else and have like a whole new cycle to themselves Nintendo does like that every company likes having a new cycle to themselves Well, what Nintendo also doesn't like is letting everyone else have the spotlight and then they forget about little old Nintendo in the corner Don't they're a market leader and they like to remind people why we're the market leader right games games games games or more games We want to blow your mind with a 40 music presentation of Seattle by Chronicles 3 which I mean That game was great man. Have you seen the new screenshots? No, so they mean they've been putting all screenshots like every week I mean the pop-up of the game is coming out in July. So this is what they do yeah, yeah my lord if you had showed me these screenshots Two years ago. I would have looked at you and said that's on switch pro That's a new that's a new switch. There's no way in hell. That's on the current switch But that was also before We knew Nintendo was using FSR So some people actually kind of kind of proved in the initial trailer Proceeding by Chronicles 3 that that there's an FSR effect in play So it's definitely using it. I want to know if it's using the new FSR That's what I'm curious about because FSR the very the first version of FSR isn't really that great But the new version is and I'm very curious if this is using FSR too If it is that could explain why some of those images are looking crispy if you're looking first for them Go to their Nintendo America's Twitter account They got eight new screenshots up today They look crispy and I definitely think if there's a direct which I I Would say My life savings a 45 cents at the moment. I would bet I'm gonna be in a direct next month Do you think they'll be a direct? Yeah, I'm gonna kind of throw my money in that direction too just based off of I Don't know gaming things happening gaming things And e3 was probably supposed to be right around the same time too So I mean I could see it happening. It wouldn't it would not surprise me either way No, I guess what surprised me if it didn't a little bit more Yeah, if it didn't happen at all that that could be a little shocking is like sure they got games coming next month We get two games. I remember right. Yeah, too. They've got on the 10th Mario Strikers battle league which by the way we're giving away two copies of that right now It's a promotion for Prime Gaming Fest If one of our mods wants to grab the link to throw it in the chat, that'd be great If people want to do that giveaway who haven't done it yet. It's absolutely free. So why not? but then There's also There's also Yeah, damn those do look good. Yeah, that does not look like a switch game. I'm sorry. It just doesn't but it is This July baby Yeah, those look really good. Wow It's the first time seeing it. Yeah. Yeah, that was just look Chris really good Did you see the water ones it from the water world? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god looks so good So I'm really excited for Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and then I'm also really excited for this direct because oh Yeah, the other game in June by the way, I don't think I mentioned it that is a Fire Emblem 3 hopes It's coming out this and the second half of June which is awesome because that's the game Yulia is looking forward to The now 100% did Fire Emblem Warriors Do you guys know how hard it is to 100% of Warriors game? Yeah, it's pretty insane 100 She might be more of a gamer than I am Yeah, I once the last time I 100% of the game. I I can't I I don't even know if I know Kirby's the closest I've come and I haven't 100% of it yet Either vibe she would 100% of Fire Emblem Warriors. Here's the thing couldn't tell you a damn thing about the story Doesn't give a shit when cutscenes come up. She's like Rapid fire like skips is get back to the gameplay, please that she doesn't realize what she's supposed to do in the quest And then on top of on top of that When you ask Yulia her thoughts on the game, she's like, I don't know it's just fun You know what it reminds me of that that grandma that had like what was it a thousand Hours in Animal Crossing new leaf. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like you could ask her all these intricate details about the game She couldn't tell you But it's fun. What it's fun And that's like with Yulia with Fire Emblem Warriors, it's fun. That's her only response She couldn't tell you all the movesets. She couldn't tell you she was she can't She doesn't have a couple of a couple favorite characters. I think she's got like two characters that she really really loves to play with But she couldn't tell you her how to do the moves She like teach you how to do this how to do that how to how to solve certain things how to get certain gear She couldn't tell you She just has so much fun that she played it to a point that she ended up 100% of the game like my total accident She fell into the 100% That's I've never 100% Warriors game in my life and I never will I don't have the patience for it, but I guess When it's just fun Things just happen And what's funny and here in her say that this reminds me of a lot of upcoming games for switch And why when I listen to some people who call like Nintendo games like for kids and stuff It's like at the core of why we play games is fun Now we can have fun in different ways. Maybe you're your fun is being scared You like jump scares, so then you like certain types of horror games, right? That's the kind of fun you like some people like fun to be super super difficult Right, so that's why they're into souls games and stuff like that because they want they want things to be really hard They like the challenge they like getting their ass beat in for hours and hours and weeks on end and then finally beating something That they didn't think they could be the satisfaction from that is fun, right? Not so if I'm getting beat in but the satisfaction of Triumphing through it right kind of like when we used to do World of Warcraft raids all the time back in the old school There's 40 man raids like there's a lot of triumph after you failed for months on that on a certain boss Finally get past it. It feels great And I speak from experience on that so I and I can speak from tangential experience on that He's sitting there money raid nights. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah almost more into the raid than me actually to be honest He would help me out because like I'd be so focused on my healing he'd be like Nate move go right go right What oh shit. Yeah, I'm so focused on these damn health bars Yeah, no no need a prayer heal need to do this Right, it's a toss of a prayer Mending gonna flash you in they move Alright, I hit the arrow button for you. You're good. You're right. What? But um But everyone plays games for different aspects that ultimately lead to what? Fun fun. Yeah, although I'm too certain extent to get a little deep here Okay, Nintendo games are for kids My inner kid your inner kid. I mean when we grew up with as kids gaming was like everything for us So but it targets, you know, my inner kid your inner kid. I agree to an extent But like I remember when I was a kid I Played my Mario's I play whatever. Well, what were the games? I love the most the games I wasn't supposed to play conquerors bad for it. I mean, yeah Halo Call of Duty Hello, what are you talking about eight-year-olds are playing those all over the place nowadays I was like that. We were when we were kids, too. Yeah differences the graphics weren't exactly What graphics I mean where you can barely tell the swastika on the wall you got that polygon over there and yeah, sure Is that a swastika? I think that's a swastika. Oh, yeah, that's a swastika. Oh parents can't tell me from a distance Right, right. We're good. Um, so like But that's the thing though is when I when I hear this for a kid I keep giving but isn't the point to have fun Isn't the point of anything that we get entertained by The the act of being entertained is fun entertainment. Yeah, it's just fun to be entertained Yeah, there's a lot of different ways. Some people like watching people kill each other and gladiator games Okay, cool. Enjoy your blood sport. I think it's a little cruel. But hey, you know what? We don't do it anymore for a reason so You do you actually probably does still happen somewhere. I'm sure it does You know, but but I want to say that some people watch sports and get entertained Some people watch movies and television shows and we play board games Some people, you know go for runs and they actually enjoy running. That's cool. I wish I was one of you I'd be in a lot better shape Why why you're lying. No, no, no, you're lying. You don't enjoy it. No, I said why you enjoy the adrenaline I said why you would rather he get the adrenaline hit without the run, right? Right? Why not lie why do this stuff because it's fun so Whenever I hear like, oh this game's for kids and I go, okay, and what do you play? Um, I play elden ring dude cool That eight year old over there's playing it too So that came for kids I mean seriously children you want me to find who's playing elden ring because I think it's cool. I put plenty Like what makes a game for kids? Oh, you just think it's a game intended for kids That's fine. Nintendo does make their games to try to be for all ages, but it's just funny to me because um We're all we're all playing games for basically the same fundamental reason So why does it matter if that fundamental reason doesn't like if like if I play mario and I'm having a lot of fun You're playing elden ring and having a lot of fun. You want to laugh at mario? Why? I would never laugh at elden ring. Well, of course you won't. It's a deeply respecting You tell me mario is not deeply respected, right? I'm sorry. That's one of the most steam parts built around it I mean Do we forget that nintendo saved the game industry in the 80s? I'm sorry Can we can we stop pretending that it really matters? Yeah, that's a good point the ones that say that those are for games are ended up playing fortnite and pubg But even then I had nothing wrong with those games. No, no, but those are the ones that have a whole pissed on a kid's plane The old like whenever I hear someone say kids game There's only a few games that come to mind that I legitimately go that seems to be a kids game Roblox I still know a lot of adults that play that too. There's a lot of adults I know that played there's probably people in my chat right now that played roblox, right? Raise your hand in the chat if you played roblox. I know most of my audience are adults So no problem. By the way, enjoy your roblox I mean, but I My cousin still plays it with his kids, so but when I when I think of it as a kids game Is because what happens? I see majority of kids playing it because I have kids and all their friends play it Yeah, so I see a lot of kids playing roblox Nothing wrong with that by the way Nothing wrong with kids playing it nothing wrong with adults playing it. But what it goes to show is that our Experiences are often based Our opinions anyways are based on what we experience. So I experience a lot of kids playing roblox I view it as a kids game But then here's the funny thing I also see a lot of kids playing call of duty So if people say call of duty it makes me think of kids as well Yep, but it's rated M and shouldn't be for kids But don't matter because parents don't give a shit or don't know I'm dead serious. There are some parents that it's like you ask It's like you do realize what this is about and they go no like I just want that that just goes into my parents Don't give a shit. Right. Yeah. Yeah, there's not paying attention. Yeah But that's the thing like There's nothing wrong with the game being for kids, by the way But it's all about life experience. I kept thinking like when people yell at me all the way to play Mario It's for kids. I'm like I kept wondering Do they legitimately see a lot of kids playing Mario and I'm going because of my life experience. I don't Get right. I actually don't see a lot of kids playing Mario Every now and then like my kids have played it But it's not like something they addictively play all the time Right the people I see that actively play it all the time are adults I go and wait in line for a game At game stop and I turn around and someone's playing Mario Odyssey and they're in their mid 20s. Mm-hmm, right It's kind of funny that like I that's actually true of almost all nintendo games as I actually see it mostly young adults Playing nintendo games all the time Yes, I see kids with switch lights And they're playing minecraft They're not really playing the nintendo games. Yeah, um By the way, this isn't saying they don't Well, they don't seem to play them as obsessively as adults and I And I think it's true of me too. I don't play nintendo. I play nintendo games more obsessively today Then when I was a kid I was playing more other people's games that I thought were cool when I was a kid But as I got older sort of realizing who cares if the game's cooler or not, man I just want to have fun. Uh, just want to have fun Right, right. Oh Gamers just want to have fun. There we go. There you go. So Yeah, and I think that's a really important one. We think about this direct in june Because we're gonna see a bunch of stuff at it that maybe Maybe Aren't the big guns I I just want to see more sparks. I hope And that could be here if ubisoft doesn't show it At um summer game fest, then I am full-belief. It's been shown Oh for sure. Yeah I want to I want to date They they they confirmed it's coming out this fiscal year which technically runs to march of 2023 for ubisoft as well So it could end up being a spring and if it ends up coming out in spring at the same time breath of the wild comes out I'm pretty sure that they still said I'm pretty sure there's they still said they're still on track for this year though Yeah, they said this fiscal year and their melody is financial report It's listed under this so still which I thought I'm still 2022. Yeah, it's 2022. They're physically just 2022 2023 Which by the way doesn't mean it's not coming 2022 You gotta remember when they do these financial reports everything's about the current fiscal year So things that don't have dates will just say they're still coming within this fiscal year. It doesn't mean it won't come in 2022 um Take or extend. Thank you so much for the two dollars, which I appreciate it Uh, I want to read that. Yeah, Andres says june 14th Uh direct and I yeah, that's pretty much what I think I would just restart I'm guessing so or or Andres from uh came explain. Oh, yeah kind of a difference. Game's playing guy has connections at nintendo Andres restart I mean, I guess he's kind of inferred. He has connections, but Uh, I watched I watched his video today. Andres restarts video and he's he's thinking june 14, which by the way Prime gaming fest goes to june 14th. Why do you think I did that? Wink wink. It's just kind of a hope actually. I'm just guessing right. I basically looked at every what happened is I wrote down the date Yeah of every single nintendo, um direct in june And every single nintendo event in june dating back to the beginning of v3 And I looked at when it when it happens and what day it's almost always tuesday Almost always tuesday and almost always the second we could do June 14th lines right up So that's why that's why what would you 14 doesn't mean it won't be it could be earlier. It could be later But that's why I I kind of guessed that it would happen on the 14th Which is exactly why prime gaming fest goes through the 14th. It is the second tuesday june Yeah, and that and that was my entire logic behind having prime gaming fest go to the 14th By the way, there's no guarantee. We have anything nintendo happened here in those six days Besides things that we do our gaming tournaments and our giveaways and our competitions between eric and I and the special guests We have coming on Um, I don't I don't know if I told eric this hmk is coming on. Oh nice got him locked down nice Jake randall Look at your text messages I know you'll come on he might be he might be no I got popping no one's live streams. He he gets so many messages. Oh, yeah, I'm sure he usually responds to me like two weeks later He's like, oh, dude, I totally didn't miss this I know yeah, whatever. I know we're all good But I'm pretty sure I'll get him on for at least a segment I'm part of it too But technically not confirmed yet, but he likes locking things in ahead of time Which is why I'm trying to check your messages. I'm actually planning something this time. I'm not asking last minute, right, right? Yeah Um Yeah, so yeah hmk nintendo academy Um, I just restarted confirmed actually he's gonna have the first confirmed. Well, no hit the second confirmed date Because the gamer twins That's that's what they are on uh on twitch are coming out for the xbox stuff. Nice. They're not Maybe our actually twins just not identical. I have no idea Um, that's possible. I have no idea. It's not like I ever asked him. I really care. Are you guys actually twins? Uh, but they're they're gonna come on xbox. So they're trying to Twins basil twins. I think we might have them come on for a full hour. Oh nice. Yeah, what's a big day? Yeah, it's a big day Yeah, so I mean it depends on what they're doing And by the way, I have them on by the way You guys have probably never heard of them outside of our e3 show last year When they were under a different banner Because nobody's really heard of them Except us because we wanted xbox experts Say that and the funny thing is I asked other people that had like bigger channels and you know what I realized None of them give a shit about a nintendo channel Why would they? So, you know what you do You just care about them being experts and stop caring about it. So you just type in xbox news or xbox podcast and you keep searching keep searching You get your listening to an episode here. Yeah, they're kind of talking some bullshit Listen to another group. Oh, they're kind of Man, this guy sounds like you might not even play games. I'm a little little concerned there I mean, I can leave the room now. So But like but no, but but I mean like in terms like they're talking something about an xbox news piece That I don't like I know isn't corrected I'm not an xbox that like if it comes to the point where I know more than you then I don't want you on the show Um for the xbox portion because for the xbox portion specifically I want people on that are experts. I don't want people on That I know more than they do because then the conversation is not engaging It's just me leading the conversation again And that's not the point of having the guest on for that segment I want them to lead the conversation. I want to ask them questions because they're the ones that know And I know it's jack shit and then I discovered these guys Watched an episode and I'm like holy shit Their show is really fucking good and nobody knows who these people are And they have great audio equipment a great setup Um They're Yes Yes, and they they quickly agreed. What's funny is the main guy. I couldn't even get a hold of him His dms are closed But I got a I got a hold of his brother Who's on the show And uh He's like, oh, hold on. Let me talk to my bro. I'm sure he's game for next You know his bro within like five seconds instantly dms me and I was like, oh what what? Yeah, dude, we'll come on. I'm like Nice, of course you are. It's promotion for that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah a chance for them And by the way, they stream on twitch. So um, and yeah, we promote all of our guests They showed it out again who they are Uh, I think they're called the gaming twins. I'll have to double check. I'll have to double check my dms to make sure Um, that's right. I keep thinking that's what they're called, but uh, I could be wrong on that Um Yeah, we're kind of hoping that direct lines on the 14th, but we don't really know, you know, it's all it's all a guess It's all a guess. Um, but let me let me find my dm from quick Uh, while I do that Uh, you're you're trying to look at these the final twitch. I don't know what they look like So I can't remember them. Sorry. You remember the guy with the ponytail? Yeah I don't know if you still have one though I'll I'll think through my dms here. I gotta open it up on the big window. Um, that'd be instead Um You know what I'm guessing we want to move on to yeah top of two top of two apparently Saudi Arabia bought into Nintendo 5% the fifth Largest shareholder of the nintendo It's pretty interesting that a country bought into Well, if you pay attention to what what um, I guess it's the crown prince Yeah, yeah, they're like the king or whatever there are two different ways in their investing They have the private investment group and then they're a public one Um, private seems to be things maybe directly owned by the prince Whereas the public one seems to be things directly owned by the government You can argue well, it's sort of like a dictatorship over there. So what's the difference? Difference is like a private one. He could transfer to anyone else when he dies Public one would stay with the crown So whoever becomes the new You know leader after him would inherit Wherever the public one is anyways, I needed it with the public funds to do this What's interesting is that between the private and the public funding that they've done They actually have their hands in a bunch of video game cookie jars I think they even own an entire video game studio Um I forget who it is. There was someone that was going bankrupt and they just swooped in the bottom By the way, they spent almost three billion dollars usd to buy five percent Just the guy let you know what nintendo's worth about five percent five percent of the company is about three billion dollars Um, you could extrapolate out and figure out what the actual stock value is of nintendo from there uh, but At least at the time they purchased it obviously the value changes every day uh, what's interesting is um, some of the reactions Because they by the way, they have their hands in a lot of things They own like five percent of ea for the people that don't know because people freaking out about that They don't five percent of capcom that explains a lot They're like they don't like five percent of capcom people didn't forget about that and then some people go Why the hell are they investing well one? um the current leader the crown prince he uh It's kind of weird. It's called the crown prince when king crown prince. I don't know exactly what they're called I don't understand they're their their their dictatorship of monarchy or whatever they call it. I don't understand it to be honest, but um One he's he's into video games So of course, he's going to invest some of the mass wealth he has from oil Into video games because he's personally into video games as is apparently um a lot of the people interestingly enough Uh after this was announced today a lot of people who live in saudi arabia liked it they thought it was awesome that their leader is buying into one of their favorite gaming companies um cool I go ahead and be happy uh The rest of the world on the outside looking at him Isn't happy about it because they worry about any possible influence That he could have and outside of the gaming company they outright bought which was in bankruptcy Anyone could have swooped in and he just happened to swoop in um He doesn't really have influence over any of the companies that he's bought into Because while five percent makes him In the top five shareholders He's not a majority shareholder His five percent could be oh, I don't like Uh, what's his name? Um shantara furakawa So when it comes up to renew who's going to be leading in what position the votes come in He could tank five percent of that vote and knock his approval rating from 98 down to 93 Guess what it has to get knocked like below 56 before they consider replacing them He doesn't affect anything He has zero impact now He can show up because of the amount of stock he owns he can show up to the investors meetings Where it doesn't matter that he's a he's a crown prince. He ain't allowed to talk until it's q&a time His princehood ain't got nothing to do when you're in the board room with nintendo in japan It's completely irrelevant. So even if you did want to show up to the investors meetings He couldn't say a damn thing until it was his time for a single question during the investor meeting Now some people wanted to know like because they don't like they don't like the dictatorship. They don't like the the You know, I don't want to dive too deep into the political aspect of this because there is a king So it's a the salaman of Saudi Arabia. Yeah so there is There's a lot of um Salamon, sorry. Yeah, there's a lot of uh controversy around this mostly because people disagree with the politics of the country Um, and specifically oppression of women is really the big thing And I don't want to dive too deep into this because the bottom line is I don't live there I Don't know what it's like. I can't give eyewitness reports. I've read the news both positive and negative I've talked to some people that live there They seem genuinely happy, but they also grew up in the culture. So they don't know a different life Um, so I just look at it like this I'm not knowledgeable enough to talk about that at that level, right? I don't know that any of us here are knowledgeable enough to talk. We all have our personal opinions But like this isn't like an entertainment thing like the amber herd versus johnny deaf things sort of just become an entertainment thing This is an entertainment. This is literally dealing with millions of people's lives um, so I don't really feel like we're qualified to have like that sort of conversation I sometimes wonder if some government officials are even qualified. Like that's why I hate talking to a government I don't really know who to believe or what to believe or what the fuck's really going on anywhere because everyone's got their own self-interest in mind however That seems to be what all the backlash is about today because they're so worried that they're going to influence nintendo down this path Of unequal treatment to employees And what I find interesting about this is also that nintendo already has accusations about that here in the united states It's kind of hypocritical that anyone cares And here's why if you want to argue that you're worried about him buying five percent of nintendo Worry about that country buying five percent of nintendo negatively affecting human rights at nintendo Or worried about the fact that part of the dividend profits office stuff are now going to go to a country That negatively impacts humans lives sometime Let me tell you something there's a lot buying electronics whole hell of a lot more of the percentage of the profits going to I don't know the manufacturers of your chips or everything else that are using child labor slave labor slave labor Child labor not paying livable wages Forcing people to work during a pandemic i'm sorry You're being hypocritical I that that that's my whole problem with this. It's not that you can't Maybe get pause Oh, I don't want to buy nintendo stuff now because it's going to support the saudi raven. Guess what you're supporting the whole of china Which by the way is doing Really bad things to a lot of people And most of the world is ignoring it because without china. We don't we can't really afford to buy the products we buy Which is sort of a misnomer because like the profit levels i'm like this iphone are so insane What's it mattered to us if suddenly my 1100 iphone costs 800 to make instead of 300 Hey, you can still charge me the 1100 to make 300 profit. Isn't that good enough apple? No, because you know the distract the price of 2000 So all of us enjoy the benefits of this stuff But then blatantly ignore it because we we we don't want to deal with that reality And now we're going to complain about something because it's the right thing to do because of political agendas And it's just this is stupid If you think this is a problem that saudi raven bought five percent of nintendo Which by the way nintendo can't block the purchase there's nothing they can do It's a publicly traded company anybody can buy it anybody a government can buy it An individual you are must can buy a whole bunch if he wants like anyone can buy it's publicly traded Nothing nintendo can do about it But it is pretty much impossible to get a majority stake in nintendo because the The two highest stakeholders own like 52 of nintendo. You pretty much can't get control of nintendo, but It's all interesting to think about as i'm watching these reactions today and watching people get angry and watching people panic And i'm like, where was all this panic? When we found out slave labor is making our stuff Where was all this panic when fox con who nintendo still uses how to put suicide nets because their employees were treated so poorly They would rather take their lives and jump off the top of the building than work Where was all the backlash then? Why didn't you boycott nintendo and all the tech companies then? But now you want to boycott them and now the other companies that saudi arabia has has invested in It just feel like it's a little bit hypocritical If you want to hold yourself to those standards, you should have been doing it this entire time You should have been doing this for decades really should have stopped buying electronics Probably 15 years ago when the story started coming out about how they're actually getting made And how some of it's even being made with blood diamonds from africa Some of the equipment used to make our stuff is being Driven by slave labor in africa in the mines I know all this stuff by the way I've done my research. I am well aware of how a lot of our electronics are being made There's very few electronics that are not being made in this fashion that there isn't some part of that electronic be at the raw materials themselves The tools used to make it or the people doing it Even a made in america product guess what did they mine it in america too? Did they mine the raw materials here or did they import them because you can't afford to buy them here? No, we don't have a whole lot of shit. That's not Available within the united states or it can be manufactured here. So it's it when if they say made in america. That's what they mean It's manufactured here. Yeah, and even that is still questionable. Yeah, because I'm sure they get like um Like there's quite a lot of parts No, they'll get like pieces built over here and then they Fully assemble so they get kits made of different parts, but they fully put it together here So it's made in the united states Yeah, so my my point in all this isn't that um Isn't that you can't feel A little weird about it, right? You're welcome to feel a little weird a little strange a little Uncomfortable That's fine. That's a that's a normal human emotion, right? You cannot like it. Yeah, that's that's fine I mean that's your right to not like it and if you want a boycott over it's fine I'm just saying that if this is what's making you boycott if this is what's making you angry Then where the hell have you been this entire time? When there's significantly worse things happening than saudi arabia collecting 5% dividends off of nintendo There's significantly worse things and more money being exchanged with companies that are enslaving people to create the products that we're buying And yet you're mad about a dictatorship Who you know it is is not giving equal rights to women and not treating everyone properly Or maybe just hate the idea of a dictatorship. I think everything should be a democracy Whatever you think is the answer to all the world's problems, which by the way Everyone's got their own problems Bottom line is I mean here in the united states. We're not at all like great either. So like bottom line is There's way worse things going on right now that you're and maybe you maybe Listening to this podcast the first time you heard about this stuff and now you're gonna start doing your own research And how all these electronics are made because Ignorance is bliss People grow up when your kids you don't hear about this stuff, right? Most of the time unless you're paying really really close attention to certain news outlets You're not really hearing about how your products are made because bottom line is american businesses don't want you to know How they're being they don't want you to know They really do not want you to know how the products are being made That's the american way is great So long as you don't understand how the american way actually works and they don't want you to know And since big business runs a lot of things you end up not hearing about it until you're much older So it's possible you guys didn't know that this is how electronics are made into those people I will say If if you didn't know about this but now you know about the saudi arabia thing and that's making your boycott Well, congratulations. Now you found out about all the other things going on that should have made your boycott a long time ago um And this just gets into that larger conversation of like should all of us stop buying electronics Should all of us stop this all all of us stop whatever And there's really I don't think a right or wrong answer to this because um consumerism drives a lot of things But well, hold on. There's a right answer to it and it we should be yes We shouldn't stop buying all this stuff, but we aren't going to well. That's that's the thing We should probably stop buying all this, but we're not going to Because that's how this works Really the solution I don't think is even to not buy it the solution is that pressure needs to be put on the countries It's happening and to fix the problem But they don't the biggest way to do that is to not buy them Well, that's the biggest power we have Yes, but the power to force the actual change comes at the governmental level and even possibly threatening military level and nobody does it Yeah, I mean as an example there's the whole war thing and people trying to condemn china for like not condemning russia or whatever like Yeah, because it's all a political thing by china. They don't want to take sides on anything because everyone gets their crap from china They want russia to still get stuff from china They want ukraine to still get stuff from china can't take a side of the war because suddenly one side won't get stuff from china anymore it's like it's this big thing where I know this is a deeply Politicized topic on a channel that I hate talking about politics. Yep, but the bottom line is this comes from a mindset That you can't In my opinion Justifiably decide out of nowhere because of this this is what tipped you over to not buy stuff anymore Because there's so much worse going on We don't talk about this topic very often for a reason one talking about negativity sucks I've been aware of this stuff for a while. We've had this conversation like one other time And it's a tough conversation to have it's a hard pill to swallow that know this device that we keep in our pocket That we hold in our hands with switch that i'm using here all this equipment I'm using to make this entire show happen the device you're literally watching this podcast on right now or listening to it on Has likely had something in it part of it some part of it done in a very inhumane way Whether it's directly through slave labor child labor improper wages Could i have been done by you know My phone could have been touched by somebody who later killed themselves over their work conditions This is stuff that we have to know is happening unfortunately We don't put enough pressure On the people that can make the change our control is everyone stopped buying it, but we kind of know That's just not going to happen right people aren't going to and not enough people are going to boycott For the consumerism aspect to make the difference the difference has to be made by putting the pressure on the entities in power To do something about it and unfortunately Ignorance is bliss. Why do you hear the stuff talked about in the media? There was there was a big story on the on the whole slavery with the Uyghurs thing in china like what a couple years ago Quickly swept under the rug after like a week The news cycle moves on people forget so Bottom line is i don't really give a shit to saudi arabia about five percent Because that means i would have to care more about i'd have to care more about that than all the other bad stuff going on I care way more about the other bad stuff going on than i do about saudi arabia collecting small tiny little dividends off every single financial return i'm sure they're probably making Some decent money Well, i mean they make a lot of money off other things right now. Oh, no Nintendo by the way isn't exactly like the best investment when it comes to making money um Like if anyone if anyone of you guys own a nintendo stock, you know your return on your nintendo stock isn't like a ton Your dividend payments are not that big so like it's not necessarily a purchase that you buy to Make a lot of money because you have if you're gonna do that the way to do it is to get in on nintendo when they're at a low They're not at a low right now We u3ds two years in a row reported losses That's when you get in You buy buy buy Then and then get out In 2020 when switches peak it You dip the fuck out. Sorry. I do It's fine But you dip the fuck out that So this isn't really a money-making move at the moment. This is more of a diversification of revenue So if and when the oil money ever drives up they have other assets they can catch out at any point and get billions of dollars back So By the way, there are people that buy nintendo stock is just like retirement stock because it's a pretty solid stock from a company That's going to be around for a while You'd hope well, I mean they have enough money to make the last for a long time So you just hope some time in there. They don't lose all your money Right, sometimes there's 50 years nintendo don't lose all my money, please um So anyways very very hard conversation to have but I think it's important to put it in perspective That we shouldn't really be any more upset about this. I think people are too upset That's basically I guess what my argument is. What do you have any additional thoughts Eric? Not really. I mean you summed up pretty well. You summed it up pretty well. I mean it's Do I care? Do I do I want to see him invest? No. Do I really am I gonna get all up in arms on it? No I I don't know. It's not worth my time I got my own shit to worry about. I mean I as much as I hate saying it um But I mean, yeah, I do I do I agree with the way they treat people allegedly No But you know, it's one of the I'm I don't know. I yeah It's a tough topic because like no matter what you say you sound like a dick. Yeah, kind of Oh, I got more important things going on in my life Do you more important than a child being forced in the child labor? That seems like a more important thing than anything any of us got going on in our lives The unfortunate truth is there's not much we can do about it And that's what sucks is that realization that I can't storm china And save the slaves. I'll get killed Yeah, it takes the might of the military and the and the government nation to do something about it and The funny thing is they all know about it and they're all too afraid to do something about it because they rely so much on that country So it's a very precarious situation or they don't give two shits about the country Like like the United States was one of their their intelligence to one of the ones that uncovered the slave stuff going on And they're like, oh you need to stop Yeah, we're trying to deny of course they did Bye We'll do it. We'll get right on that. Yeah, it's not. Oh, so so we looked into it. It's not happening We don't have slavery, but I don't tell now your intelligence is wrong. This is our country. There's no slave labor here We don't we don't force people on the camps Doesn't happen. Nope. We pay we pay a fair and equal wages everywhere. We've done it here in the united states So why are people jumping off buildings killing themselves? I don't know. Those people are just crazy people Yeah So crazy they gotta put nets up. I mean that's happening pretty frequently. You gotta put nets up It's it's just dumb and unfortunately Unfortunately, this is one of the situations where we just don't have the power as an individual as a collective If we could get the entire nation of america behind it and get you know All these people that voted was it like 140 million that pulled vote in the last presidential election get all 140 million To make noise and something might happen because the government we forced into it But guess what getting 140 million people to agree on anything Um constrain the fact that there are some things out there that 80 to 90 percent of americans want And that still doesn't happen. Yeah, just teaches. It just shows you how we gotta be careful. We say 80 to 90 percent Because now we're now we're basing it off of polls and all those things and We know how easily statistics has been improved. Yeah. Yeah, because by the way, like a lot of the polls We pulled a thousand people and that's 90 of america. Okay, that makes up a small tiny portion of a small town in moscota Right, like I don't know that's a very good poll to base any decision on the whole country on but yeah Like if you guys ever look into some of the polls, this is just like a fun aside Like if you ever look into poll numbers and like how people like oh, yeah 85 percent of switch users um are over the age of 18 Okay, now if nintendo tells you that they actually could have some data because they have the entire user base data But when you see like sensor tower put something out there sensor tower doesn't have direct access to a lot of the data It's based on polling And if you dig into it, it'll be like based on a poll of 2500 people using apple devices And you're making an assumption for 200 million users off of 2500 But that's all a lot of polls and statistics or that's why we haven't really careful So 80 90 percent. I don't know 80 90 percent of america agrees on anything I don't I don't think we can get I guarantee you 80 than 80 percent of americans will agree on that 80 to 90 percent of americans don't agree on something There you go. That's the one thing we can't agree on is that nobody agrees I'd agree that nobody we could agree that we could agree to disagree. Yeah, right? We're really good at that Yes, really good at not agreeing on things and that's what the one thing we got in common. Yeah, um All right, so uh, by the way Some are brought up lies damn lies and statistics. The funny thing is the stats don't really lie. It's how we interpret them The stats are the stats of the 2500 people polled in the certain thing That's that is correct for that 2500 people Extrapolating that to millions. It's not a it's not a significant sample size Like and my thing is like what is a significant sample size then people debate about that Well, if we have if we have well, how many people live in new york city? Oh, Jesus Like 30 million I forget it grows over a year New york city population 8.3 million the city itself is 8.3. Okay, so let's say you have 8.3 million right and you want to make a decision for that city And you got you'd ran a poll and you got 100,000 votes in the poll That that seems like a lot of people but compared to 8.3. Is that really a good enough sample size to make the decision? I don't know, you know So let's move on. So that's what I'm saying like the actual polls are accurate the number numbers are numbers But people manipulate the numbers to to do things that don't always add up Get into our last topic because Hey, if you guys are upset about the Saudi Arabia stuff, you're upset. If you're not upset, you're not upset. Personally, I don't really care They the the 5% gives them no control of Nintendo. Well, to be clear. It's 5.01 percent Just like everything in Breath of the Wild is 0.08 percent. How to throw that 0.01 um Our last topic deals with Services and does Nintendo need to embrace the service mentality and Some of you guys are probably already staring at the screen. What are you talking about neat? Nintendo switch online. They already have a service I mean, yeah Let's consider something We all know game pass Don't need to dive into the details that game game pass Is xbox's service PlayStation is now expanded PlayStation plus and do a real service of the PlayStation one PlayStation two PlayStation three Demos and a whole bunch of other stuff. They're actually offering a lot of modern games But just not like the latest games, but they're gonna look like they're gonna start offering two hour demos of the latest games And all that so they're really buying the service mentality They've been in the service for a bit with with live streaming ps3 games for a while Nintendo is weird So they charge you to play online. So what are these other companies? But what they try to do Is give you An incentive to stay subscribed rather than Sell you a service If that makes sense You're still buying a service to play retro games But really what they're doing is You need to be subscribed to play smash to play mario kart play whatever We don't want you to leave when you're done playing those games. So we're going to incentivize you to keep your subscription By giving you these additional things It doesn't feel like and this is just me compared to the Sony and Microsoft That Nintendo is really like we're offering you a service And we want you to subscribe for that service rather We're strong arming you into it and then hoping we give you enough little extras that you don't leave it To a certain extent though They kind of feel like they're kind of starting to head in that direction with something like the dlc the Other added stuff that's coming the big one the other stuff that's coming. I mean they added the the 64 and the gen Genesis yep I'm like which which Sega series here are we talking about but uh the genesis um, and uh You know, so it feels like they're kind of starting to move in that direction And should they fully buy it? Everything's a service these days for starters, but if they're gonna go that route Go 100 in that route. I mean don't pull the foot around it and You know daily dad. Oh, okay We're gonna give you this service here that we're gonna strongly be into but we're not gonna really make it fully 100% worth it for you. So We want you to join it, but Yeah Stop pussyfooting around Nintendo. We should have every system through we We should have every handheld system through ds That's normally not knowing you're not pussyfooting around anymore. We have full backwards compatibility on xbox full backwards compatibility now thanks to this service Besides ps3. That's all streaming On on sony they ain't pussyfooting around you're paying for a service that gives you the entire back catalog Well, not all of it, but Stuff from every platform before it Nintendo meanwhile pussyfoots around They're like that kid that was late to the party and then decided you know what everyone else is having a great time Drinking top shelf. You know what I'm gonna have Can I get some kool-aid? I'm gonna guys come over here and have some kool-aid with me What but sir? We're all busy drinking top shelf and having a grand old time and making business deals over here That's cool. Come have some kool-aid With some extra extra cups of sugar in it, please That's some sweet ass kool-aid. That's some sweet ass kool-aid just like back in the day But like that's what it kind of feels like like Nintendo is Coming at this as a we know we're behind everybody. So instead of just jumping all in we're just no We're gonna do the most nintendo thing ever and just never fully commit We'll tease oh, we got 64 genesis now we have 64 genesis now We might get game boy. Holy shit. We might get something from the 80s and 90s. Yeah, right Holy, hold on. We might get another system from the 80s and 90s God forbid we get something that came out in the year two zero zero zero and beyond Two infinity and beyond everybody. Yeah to backwards God forbid we get something that actually came out in the last 22 years No, so no what what's more typical Nintendo is We'll give you this and so we'll give you a few games and then what fails massively They'll go see we tried it. It didn't work No, you didn't try shit. Oh, we had a game cube, but we give you like four games and nobody upgraded for it You didn't try shit nobody wants game Yeah, no That that's like sony and microsoft have this fundamental understanding of a service and needing to value that service to get people in How are you going to convince people to get the the PlayStation ultimate stuff? Guess what? You're giving them a great value for the money. Why do people get in the game pace? It's a great value for the money It's an investment in yourself and your customers to lead you to higher subscriber numbers That lead to everyone winning at the end of the day The customers end up happy because they feel like they're getting a great value for your money You end up winning because you have so many people subscribe. You're making hand over fist billions extra per year off subscribers It's a win win at the end. What game pass is doing isn't a win win at first For microsoft. It's a win win down the line. They're going they're going the netflix route They're going with the 10-year plan and that's fine. They got money to sink technically. Nintendo's got money to sink as well Sony not so much. They're kind of In and out of the profits and and non-profit stuff. They don't they don't have a ton of money in the bank but Bottom line is i'm not by way. I'm not saying that nintendo needs to offer a game pass service I don't think sony needs to offer a game pass service You know the whole reason Sony and nintendo don't need to offer game pass services is because their exclusive games individually sell a lot Hate to break the student nintendo fans. Sony's exclusive games do sell a lot They're starting to sell like nintendo games. Some of that only happens after they're discounted doesn't matter. They still happen so It's awesome Their ip's are selling so well They don't need to offer a game pass service to create that enticement to come over Microsoft needed to do that Because they were having a hard time Getting enough exclusive games let alone convincing people to buy every single one that comes out. So hey now you got game pass Fine microsoft can do that by the way. They're one of the richest companies in the world They can afford to take that risk for a future investment Maybe nintendo and sony don't want to and it's probably not a smart business decision for them to But what sony's doing with their service and what they gave us the information this week very smart It's a very smart choice for sony and it's a very good value for the consumer Nintendo services obviously the values in the eye of the hole There's some people are gonna think nintendo switch online with expansion pack if you get the expansion pack is worth it because of the dlc It's worth it because of the replay value and the online aspect you're getting with n64 and genesis game I get it. Some people are gonna feel like it's a good value and that's fine I mean we gotta remember with the expansion pack nintendo is no longer the 20 dollar kid at the table that cost you a dollar a month It's still now creeping up to that almost five dollars per month category And I know that's still not what the others are charging. They're still charging more But I almost would rather nintendo say fuck it. It's gonna cost you 180 dollars a year But we're actually gonna give you everything up to our current system And then you know what we'll entice you with some discounts on new games when they come out Oh, you're a subscriber 10% off in the e-shop. I know i'm gonna say you're laughing nintendo discount What But that's what i'm saying though. That's what it means. Oh, no, no, no for sure. No. No, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely That part I pass it. I I I understand That's that's probably reaching too far. I understand just just give us the games reaching Anything beyond what we currently have is reaching too far for sure. Just so you're aware. You're not wrong on that one You're not wrong on that one begging to get excited about game boy and game boy color games coming Hey, man, it keeps us talking about nintendo though, and let me know. I love game boy and game boy color But here we're talking about ps4 games being on playstation 5 Here we're talking about ps3 games Due to architecture reasons why that's why they're streaming and ps2 and ps1 All of psp psvita coming to the service Sony just like snapped their fingers and did this in like two years Nintendo's been at the virtual console thing since what when did we come out again? They didn't do a virtual console for hollow Right. Well, wait nintendo was the first one to start doing this and now they're behind everybody else Nintendo started this They Started this whole offering back catalog games. Yeah, but then and now they're behind again What happened was is they got Probably the backlash of people having to keep rebuying every new generation and then go see this doesn't work So we're just not gonna do it anymore See, so I mean because everybody keeps getting pissed us because they have to rebuy the damn virtual games So the song goes back to the original question should nintendo just go all out should they start saying fuck it That they're not gonna do it this generation by the way guys two or too far gone this gen This would be something they would reconsider it when the next system comes around And and do Not should they do it because I think everyone's gonna say while you're gonna have a service Now why not just go all out? They're like, what's the point in holding back? Right? But Do we think they will eventually get there or is nintendo just always going to be the way they are now? We're just getting sort of scraps So that's they're very good. Like Kirby just got Kirby 64 a great game. Yeah But I mean we should have had this on switch. It should have carried over from the Wii We should have had them celebrate getting games that we could buy on the Wii We could buy a lot of these n64 games on the Wii in the mid 2000s And now we're celebrating them coming back in the 2020s Again it keeps us talking about nintendo I mean nintendo existing keeps us talking I mean, you're not wrong, but this like a fart in the wind and it's a breaking news tomorrow All Farted during the investors meaning everyone heard it. It's caught on camera. Yeah, I mean, what do they say all this is good news? I mean breaking news of 10. Yeah, right Don't don't don't rebuy a game game. You already but that's the brilliance of what they're doing. Yeah, so sony good old sony Not always so good, but the this is a good decision They made they're bringing all these all these classic games back if you already own them So to your point don't buy them again if you already own it If you already own them when they become available because of this service as long as you have the game registered with your playstation account You could just download it and play it without being part of the service. Holy shit Damn, what's that? What's that out here? backwards compatibility Just just digitally. I mean still who cares still that's that's amazing It's it's not a foreign concept But it is to nintendo So you're right doggy you shouldn't have to buy it again Here's the issue you bought it on the n64. You should be able to play it for free today on a switch But you can't here's the issue though too You'd have to go back through your nintendo account your other account your other account your other account It's a bit easier to count for me to be fair because they had online I think starting with ps2 a little bit in the ps3 for sure So it's a little bit easier and they've only had one account structure throughout the whole entire damn thing Yeah, and like but but as an example Wii U games right We use account system ended up merging into nintendo accounts Obviously wasn't like a Smooth move but you can see some of your Wii U purchases on your nintendo account So when those games came over to Wii U? Why couldn't we just download them for free? We already bought it All right, we gotta buy it again Just play it on switch This is it's a very similar situation. So I give sony some credit Yeah, they're caring about the backwards compatibility One, it's just a good guy good guy sony move and two. Hey, we're also giving you incredible value for a decent price It saves you money to buy more games Well different because the way these services work now if you get the playstation plus, especially if you get the playstation plus like the ultimate version you get two Big game drops per month instead of one So playstation plus gets the one drop the minute of the month If you get the ultimate or deluxe version whatever they're calling it You get another drop in the middle and these games that get dropped by the way have come out in like the last couple of years So they're more modern games So when they do these drops plus the access to the classic games and then you have xbox for the game pass You can literally buy a playstation Buy while placing your five buy an xbox series Subscribe to these services and never actually buy a game and be totally happy because you'll have stuff to play all the time new stuff being added all the time Nintendo doesn't have anything like that. I'm sorry guys. They don't Yeah, you can buy a nintendo switch subscribe to nso You're not getting new shit to play You're getting old shit and only old shit. Oh, sorry Correction, they did give us mario 35 and then they took it away I mean you're getting the dlc of the new of the games that you need to buy Oh, I mean, yeah, instead of just getting the games at this point Platoon 2 cool. We got the dlc. Why can't we just get the game before you came out in 2017? Splatoon 3 is coming out this year. Why can't we just have something to why can't we just have it? Because reasons Oh, you're giving us the why can't we just have the game like this one like nintendo just I don't understand I don't understand what they're doing And you could say a lot of this is you know, it's not fair to compare it to other services But this is the way the world's going And this isn't me complaining about buying by video games. By the way If they had a sony like service, it won't stop me from buying nintendo games day one Just like it won't stop me from buying playstation games day one But it is nice for budget conscious gamers to go I could just invest this one price per year Right and I will have like new were maybe not the latest but Just before the latest games to play And I have all the classic games to play in between if there's nothing I want to play that particular month coming out Like it's a nice and but xbox. I mean xbox is almost incomparable because they are giving you the brand new stuff That's just the more companies they buy out the more of a value it feels like so xbox is kind of in a class of its own at that but I mean sony's now got a legitimately really good service going and Down you guys nintendo who were just begging for scraps at the table Of systems that came out 20 plus years ago I don't I don't understand Why why is it this way? Well, we know why nintendo is just Mac, you know, they value their ip so highly they're maximizing revenue and I don't know there's been a lot of complaints about ns. So and I'm not trying to I'm just saying Will nintendo ever get there will they ever get there? ever Probably not In our lifetime Let's slow it down a bit. I don't really know or know if I care what nintendo does after I die But in my lifetime, let's say I got another 40 years on this planet. Yeah Knock on wood that I make it to 76 Sometime in there. Maybe could I subscribe to a nintendo service and just get games? Yeah, no, I don't know. Maybe maybe not I Something tells me no I mean, they're kind of sort of trickling in that I do like the dlc editions. Yeah But when you're at a dlc that came out four years, I just don't care Can we like the new dlc? Cool. They have the mari card dlc in cool. They when they added the uh What's the animal crossing dlc day one? Cool That those those were neat additions and I like that they're gonna if and they haven't Committed to it, but if they add all future dlc That does give it a value I mean even for me, it gives it a value if they release enough dlc for a year. You could give the value Hell, I mean if if they have breath a while to dlc and it comes the freaking online service You get that's pretty god damn good. You could share that dlc with eight people I mean, it's a really good deal, but but And what are we talking about that we're talking about oh, they're adding new content to it, right? But it's not adding the game that you need to buy to play in the first one By the way, I'm not saying they need to do game pass But I found it weird when they added okay now when swatoon 3 is coming out. We're gonna add the octo 2 expansion To the phone so to two that literally everybody who wanted to play it bought it in the last four years Splatoon 2 is no longer relevant is being replaced and now you're adding dlc That everyone who's already wanted to play it would have already bought by now It's like a fool's gold value add. It's fool's gold nobody's gonna be buying splatoon 2 today Because I get free octo pass expansion Let me go spend 60 bucks by the way hasn't dropped in price 60 bucks on splatoon 2 with splatoon 3 around the corner So I can have that octo expansion for free, which isn't really free By the way, when you stop calling anything on services free I hate this and they say oh look at these free games right none of it's free If you pay money for a subscription, it's just part of the subscription fee not free No, I think gamers actually use that more than the companies. Yeah, I see a lot of gamers go What are you complaining about they just added this game for free? Oh, so I don't have to pay No, they They added the game for adding the game for free is correct because you're not paying any more Then what you're currently paying you're paying for the service So all the games that you've currently paid for but then that's just part of the service adding games as part of the service You're paying for the fact they add games Right, but you're not it's not for free. That's part. That's what part of the expectation of the service When you subscribe to game pass your expectation is when the next game comes out you get it When you subscribe to playstation, you know, they're gonna add new games every month Right, but again, you're you're not When they you're not paying more because they added the game But no, you expected the game to be added They created the expectation. That's what the part of the service Part of the service is that you get games You might not know what games you get Let me clarify this they added the game for free You don't get to play the game for free Because you're paying for the service to play the game. They added to the service for free because you're not paying any more But you're still paying to play the game Which means it's not free for you Put them adding it to the service is free because you don't pay any more for it But you still had to pay to access it That's paying to play the game. What's their goal of adding games to get more people to subscribe? Oh, hey, look the hot hot hot Apparently it's time to end the chat but end the podcast and the podcast We got a hot adult dating going on right now Damn it that they always seem to come in right at the end of the damn podcast So apparently this is telling us we're going to goddamn long We need to end the podcast here. No But but I like that you're that you're disagreeing with me on this because I've heard this argument made Several times and I keep just defaulting to I really don't give a shit if I mean there's that well Here's the bottom line if I pay a fee This is what I look at it as So in netflix gives you content. It's all free, right then The extra content is free Subscribing specifically to get the content When you subscribe, you know new seasons of the shows that you want to come in out When you subscribe to television, you know, there's going to be more sporting events more of this So all that's free even though you are literally paying specifically to get that content That's the whole purpose of you subscribing is to get that content So is it really free or is that that's just the expectation of the service that you already pay for? If they stopped adding those games, you would stop subscribing Yeah, think about it if you subscribe to cable tv and they stop live airing sports Yes, you're done. You're gonna cancel your tv subscription. Yes, but what I'm saying is is it doesn't cost It doesn't cost you any more for them to add the but you are specifically paying money because they add if they get rid of that You stop paying you're paying for that Feature of the thing but it doesn't cost you more because they added it But that's why they're adding it for free And we didn't actually in the chat do we I don't think so. I took care of it. Yeah, I took care of it No, and I just My my mentality my biggest one is these goddamn infomercials that say buy this one get the second one for free Just pay shipping and handling Well, then it's not free. That's shipping and handling You pay the shipping and I won't get one for shipping and handling. Yeah It's not buy one get one free pay shipping and handling. No, it's buy one get one for shipping and handling Yeah, but they're illegally allowed to say buy one get one free because shipping and handling is just considered part of the Service fee to get it. Yeah, I know it's dumb But but but this but this is just the way that I always view it as like like I have never Like paid for a cable subscription and thought oh when they put a show on tv when they put a sporting event on tv That's for free Like that's what I'm trying to compare this to is like Why did you subscribe to say television to get those shows and get those sports? So without them you don't give them any money So then it's not free. I paid a service to be served this content If you don't serve me the content, I don't pay you paid for access You're not paying any more because they're adding more shit to it but So what you're saying is when when you pay for your cable, you're not paying more Because another brewer games on they added another brewer game to the slate today you get to watch By the way, I don't know not even all the games are on cable. But that's actually I think All of them have been all of the ones this year are in some form of Are they actually on it though? You don't have to buy like extra packages to get them like MLB network Yeah, no Well, yeah this year because that's been a thing in prior years of some of the sporting events between The free games of youtube and the free games of mlb I believe I heard that all brewer games this year are in some way available on some sort of Streaming free change Of the service you pay for to get it like if you watch it for free on youtube, okay Well, I'm not watching that through my cable service, right? Yeah, but they're at least viewable So what I'm saying though is like have you ever viewed tv as you're just getting content for free Even though you paid specifically to watch that content You paid to access the content Yes, and then anything new brand new shows they didn't pay you to they know, it's not like they pay you pay per show Have you seen the way that you subscribe You pay to access things like ballet sports You pay to access those channels you pay for the content by the way The tv contracts pay for a lot of this content to even be aired in the first place These subscription fees the game pass are eventually going to pay for the games you're getting on game pass Like like this is what i'm saying Netflix, oh you're adding the content no, they're not your fee that you pay made that show come to netflix You are paying for those shows to be made That's what the subscription fees pay for they pay for that content to exist in the first place And that's my argument is You have to sell cement. I mean it's all semantics. You have to pay to access it. It's all semantics I love that we disagree. Yeah, it's just If you the if unless if you subscribe to gain access to stuff that's already there It don't care about what's coming that I can agree Then it just views as oh, they're just adding free content that I didn't ask for But when they advertise it as a feature of your subscription Leading that to be a reason that you subscribe to enjoy that feature if they don't deliver on that feature You don't subscribe. You're actually paying them to provide you that content Because if they don't have that feature you probably didn't Imagine netflix would people keep stay subscribed to netflix, which is probably some people aren't subscribing anyways But would people stay subscribed to netflix if they stopped adding new content? Well, no, of course that Of course, eventually people would all follow up because there's no new content to watch Then what are you actually paying for you're paying for that new content to exist That's why people would unsubscribe. Why am I going to keep paying for something when they're not giving me anything new The same thing with cable TV. We'd stop paying at the stop showing sporting events That's one of the main things still probably no cable TV is sports They get rid of the sports off of there, which by the way, you can watch sports There's a whole lot of ways to watch sports. It just so happens that cable and satellite TV Well, well the the only benefit of cable and live tv still is that They still tend to be more live than streamed. We've seen that just in my house Yeah, I've had streams for sure before and yeah going through an actual satellite box or a cable box You actually aren't getting an update on your phone about what just happened before you actually see it happen Um, so that's one of the benefit that people that actually really want live to be live Um, they still enjoy those those aspects. Um, by the way, that's some people subscribe for other channels and other shows So some people really love having the discovery network and history channel and all that's all fine Everyone's got their own reason to subscribe doesn't have to just be sports Just so happens that sports is one of the number one drivers Which is why a lot of the extra sports channels keep getting put in the upper packages to force people to spend more and more Money to get extra channels. They don't really want when really they just wanted to be I just get the sports stuff Get rid of all that other shit and I'll pay 20 bucks I've been literally just want to start a goddamn cable company that you pay me for the fucking channels you want and that's it That's what you get You want one channel? Sure you get one channel. Yeah, but here's the problem. You don't control any of the networks So you call us bannett say I want to sell your one channel No, no, no, you can sell our channel if you package in all the disney network channels No, that's that's what you don't understand. They don't control the content. They have to pay direct tv charter Um, all these companies have to pay money to the networks to get their their channels And the networks control how you get their content and that sucks because you can be like, well the networks can go fuck up Well, the networks are doing just fine They're not really being that negatively affected by this going down because all the streaming stuff's popping up now And I said, oh, well we'll put all our espn stuff on files You mean like Thursday night football's not on amazon prime and only amazon prime? Yeah, well, maybe it'll shit load of money to the NFL to make that happen. No, I know So I don't think I have NFL And that's why does the NFL care? No, it doesn't no I have amazon prime. It's not a big deal, but It still sucks because guess what I gotta watch the streaming now. I can't watch it Live live. I always am gonna have a delay and get score updates on my phone before it happens. Yep And you might be like, oh then your internet sucks. Oh my internet does not suck here No streaming is not actually as quick It's funny because they're like a cable box and cable internet. It's the same line. Yeah, it should be the same speed It's just not Buffering and everything else that gets added in that just isn't there with the raw cable signal so um, but anyway, the whole point of this obviously is getting back to the services and um Just if I can do it. Yeah, I mean we we want them to I mean, I'm gonna ask this of the audience. I'm gonna ask this of the people watching. Do you guys Want Nintendo to go on this ride? Do you guys just not care? A lot of people don't like services But I don't see people really complaining about the xbox and playstation stuff I think people complain because they're scared of an all digital future or a service only future We're heading that direction anyways. I mean it's already happened. I mean sorry music basically I mean you can still buy individual songs. You can still even buy albums How many of you guys actually do that though? Or do you just subscribe to Spotify? And just play any song you want as much as you want Or any other music service on the spot if I mean amazon prime prime example You get a music subscription as part of my amazon prime You listen to any song you want. Yep Some people don't do that Well, the amazon subscription is weird. Like if you have like Alexa devices, you have to pay like extra fees It's not very much. It's like a couple bucks to like play music on multiple Alexa devices. It's weird But again, that's how they're getting it the nickel and the diamond. Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, that's why they switched us to uh services But the funny thing is on the elections, you could just if you're if you're subscribed to Spotify You can just play Spotify and every single Alexa doesn't really matter because it's a separate app but um Retro geek from our live stream chat says I'd love them to go complete backwards compatibility and do the service like that I think a lot of people I mean Everyone's basically doing it by Nintendo and everybody doing it doesn't mean that you should do it, right? Like everybody doing it doesn't make it right. Yeah But if you're gonna dabble what Nintendo's doing just feels off It's always felt off to me, right It's one of those things that again, I go back to I go back to it's John Connelly Thomas. No, he brought a point I'd rather own my games and subscribe to a service, but we're not talking about either or At least not now. I hope a day doesn't arrive that we can't actually buy our games But right now that's not what we're talking about. We're not talking about either or right now We're talking about both. You can do both on a on PlayStation X bikes. You can do both You can buy or do a subscription service They're not taking away your ability to buy games yet We hope they never do I think what will go away first before your ability to buy games is your ability to buy physical games I don't know that they'll ever take away the ability to buy digital like think about music You can still buy individual music songs on every music service basically You can still buy all your movies even netflix movies You could buy netflix movies on other services But you I think on amazon you could literally buy netflix movies. Just buy it straight up 20 bucks buy the movie own it So you could still buy the content The physical aspect of buying content is slowly eroding And that that that's a bit of a sad day Video games is like one of the last bastions holding on to physical Think about the entertainment world. I never thought about that. Mm-hmm video games It's kind of it like home consoles. It's kind of like the last bastion of physical Besides like super niche, you know like people who are in the records and stuff It's crazy because we grew up on everything was physical Yeah, and now we're to the point that video games are kind of it. I mean CDs are gone Oh, no, so technically exist. Well, I mean as install discs I mean, yeah, you don't play games off them anymore. No, I mean like no, I'm in like actual music CDs Still technically I know they technically exist. The only the only ones you see are like the absolute number one selling albums We'll like a month later up here in a Walmart or something. I mean, they don't have massive sections like they used to Like every artist coming out used to have their their just going on shelves and now even like DVDs and blu-rays too That the shelf space that are devoted to those the biggest of the big dwindling you could probably find And that's about it like the biggest best-selling stuff you'll find But you won't find like every movie that's in movie theaters. Not all of it's going to come out physically Some eventually no some of it's only going to be digital somewhere I mean, especially now with these a lot of these companies so serving with with these online accounts, you know streaming services now But that's why that's why I want to I want to clarify services haven't killed the ability to buy things They've killed the physical in a certain regard But you can still buy a digital song a digital movie and own it and watch it whenever you want so long as you have electricity Like offline literally you you can still buy Download do whatever you want with the file within legal Means put it on a server Keep it offline and watch stuff That is all still 100 happening and hasn't been taken away But it's the physical So you can get both but Bottom line, I mean physical games are going away, aren't they? eventually I mean if you think about it There's oh thousands of games available on switch Yeah, 70% are digital only Kind of already there guys Look how many games release in the e-shop every week how many new ones are added to your local walmart every week in comparison Guess what? Hey, you know that thing we were just talking about with like the movies and the cds like only the biggest of the big ones appear in store shelves Yeah I mean, yes The thing is is a lot of these like Ones that are coming out on the e-shop though too. A lot of them are You know smaller studios that generally they probably don't have the money to Are shovel or garbage and are kind of smaller studios that turn on a quick buck maker Don't have the money to necessarily print a whole piston of physical copies. I think I'm right I'm thinking we'll release the game on the e-shop and just call it money maker And I'm gonna sell it for 10 cents And all all it's gonna be you turn it on and it's just an eye wind button It's just an eye wind button You just hit it and it goes eye wind. Yeah, that's it. That's the whole game But people are gonna buy it. They're gonna meme it like they did calculator. Yeah They're gonna meme it And I'm gonna make billions Selling a 10 cent eye wind button. Fuck it. Let's do it a 10 cent eye wind button. That's all it is Billions brilliant brilliant. Let's do it people are gonna care. It's only 10 cents. That's fine I hope millions of you spend 10 cents. Thank you so much I would I would love to report a 10 million seller in the eye wind button A winner And like once at every hundred it's like you suck Yes, you have to have the easter egg and like yeah like not 100 is too too. Yeah. Yeah It's gotta be like one after like 3000 hits. Yeah. Yeah, there's a random like once every 3000 It'll just write it'll randomly be like you suck Wait, what that's the eye wind bow. I win I win. I swear it's a and there'll be this whole thing going on Did I actually say it's time? We don't believe it till we see it. We need there to be live streams Yeah people just smashing the eye wind until it says it. Let's find out if the eye wind button really says you suck Yeah Let's do it. I like this idea I'm telling you though like it's so dumb that it would work. Oh, it would be 10 cent game. Yeah, it would work Might even be able to sell for a dollar. I don't know. We're pushing too much 99 cents. I don't know I don't know Oh, don't I gotta get a super chat today. That's two virtues. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean two right there. We could uh We could then put uh Uh We we'd have to space out the quote unquote space out the times the press of the button And you could spend money to shorten that time so you can repush the button again You only push the button once every five seconds. However, if you spend if you buy the season cold or diamonds If you buy the season pass for 5.99 a month, you can press it as fast as you want Yep It's fast. You click that button. Yep I went I went I think I missed it. Yeah, you're pressing too fast. Yeah Well, you want to slow it back down now. You got an unseason pass for an additional 5.99 Yes Oh son of a bitch we're geniuses. I'm telling you something like this would absolutely take off something dumb Something dumb. I don't know if we can get it approved to release But if we can get it approved to release you don't need it really approved to release in the freaking Google Play Store My top of Google Play. I wanted on switch. Oh that motherfucker on switch I mean yeah, and I will discount it down to a penny to get the top of the of the actual Like no number one best seller and then I jacked the price back to 99 cents After I manipulate the system, which by the way everyone's already doing this So you kind of have to do this to get up to get noticed anyway, or what I even need to I have a starter audience, right? All of you you 88 concurrent people watching you'd buy it, right? You'd buy my idling button. You'd buy it, right? Right all of you all of you would do it Come on now Can I get thousands of people just from my channel to buy it? That's enough to get it charting and then all of a sudden just naturally climb from there, right, right a YouTuber makes a brilliant Stupidest game in the world you you always win except for that one time you don't You have to repurchase it for a dollar What just happened the game just bricked itself No, no, you don't repurchase when you put it back up. Sorry, would you like an extra life? After a hundred like a hundred and you get the you suck. Yeah, would you like an extra life hundred thousand presses extra life? for a dollar That's great. This is such a brilliant moneymaker. Why are we not doing this? I don't know no one would feel guilty because they would only ever end up spending like maximum five dollars ever in their life They wouldn't miss the McDoubles they could have bought with that right and we just get rich right for the dumbest thing I know here's the problem because we made this public someone else is already on it right now I'm sure well one of our one of our developer buddies is watching right wait shit. I'm making this now. It's happening dude No, wait, we're live, but the live stream comes down and Then there's only 88. I think we're safe right now Just beep out their whole the whole back into this this I think we're saying I think we're small enough now I'm not too worried about anyone. I mean Eric gets those development chops going. I know right I want to see you bust that one. You make it for phone. We find a way to get it converted for switch We just release it on everything. Yeah Because see I think on phone will be harder because I'm pretty sure if I look it up There probably already is like an I win button on phones. Oh, I'm sure I'm sure there is but there is not one on switch Especially one that has this little game in it that eventually tells you you suck and game over that definitely does not exist on switch I guarantee there's an I win button there because I there was a couple of the button things you could download And I've seen on the app store. There's a win button. There's win button Will you press the button green button which actually has a red button as the image? Really in button. I don't know what the hell that is Emotional damage Great oh hold on This is this might actually be a better better button Although I probably shouldn't play this out loud. You probably don't want to get copyrighted There is no I win button on the app, but they have this they have this button You can hit that hit it for the crowd Did it again come on. Oh There it is you get to push it once and you get a fucking ad. I wouldn't do the ad I won't I'd Oh Close the ad These nuts Yeah Somehow the volume got turned down inside the app. Well, you know, it's a really well Do I want to read the app? No, it's a really well-developed app. Oh wait. Hold on. There's more All right, I think that means it's probably time to go. We're now hitting button apps in our phone All right guys. Thank you guys so much for doing it. I hope you enjoyed the Nintendo Prime podcast this week We didn't get into our the the grander talk I wanted to do about Prime Gaming Festival. That's all right. Yeah, I think I'm gonna have a lot more stuff planned out by next week And we will probably had to do an entire podcast about Prime Gaming Fest next week unless Side note is unless there's some really really big Nintendo news that drops that we absolutely have to talk about Then it might just be a bonus discussion We haven't done about we haven't done a bonus episode in a while No, no, I don't know as a bonus episode could work out if there's a lot of news Well to talk about that. Yeah, I mean you still haven't clipped So yeah, there's that as well. Yeah, I mean you still have yet to clip a lot of these podcasts Oh, I don't even all the pockets up. So I mean, yeah, there's that. Let's just let's just be sure Yeah, I can't clip until I'm caught up. I mean, I don't get caught up because I'm too busy and Like it's not it's not the downloading like I well I Just got to teach you how to level audio So easy. Yeah, it really it I could get you you could literally do this shit at work You don't have to listen to the whole podcast It's so easy. Yeah, probably could it's so easy. It's so I just like putting them It's just it's just the time to download it and then you have to render it out after you Level out the audio you got to put the intro the outro on you got to level out the audio And then literally just re-render it out and upload I could take care of it once it's uploaded, but I Just run out of time because it ends up taking Downloading the episode takes like 40 minutes Which I need that 40 minutes to do something else because it slows down the internet and then just don't and then I have to render it And while I render it it takes a little bit because it eats up all the processing on my computer And you can say we'll just render it on this one That's probably what I should be doing is all the editing on this one So then it doesn't eat up that one But I don't think about that at the time because I'm already sitting at my editing computer Why would I just edit at my editing computer and because I'm not thinking of the best use of my time when I have multiple pieces of Equipment and I'm pretending to be two people at once working on two computers at once I know I'm an idiot and I mean you're an idiot, and you could just download everything overnight All right guys have a good rest of your night Thank you for tuning into episode 51 And for someone to know why the Academy wasn't on he just wasn't around when we started Literally shut up like two hours in yeah, but he buddy wasn't on online at the beginning when we started that that's literally it It wasn't like we kicked him off You suck you suck. He just wasn't online. He does what it is. You know to be fair We haven't done one on a Wednesday. I think in like three weeks. So you probably didn't think we have one tonight Yeah, yeah, and we didn't actually start on time either, and we also didn't have it scheduled ahead of time Like we usually do so he didn't see that so you probably oh, they're not doing one tonight Yeah Yeah, the communication breakdown was pretty bad Okay, no, what are you coming off? I did say hi to him. Yeah. Yeah And got no response and then we follow up with the sequel you suck button you suck button. I Wonder how evil do I want to be? So when prime gaming fest starts? We start the countdown, but in the countdown we go we don't officially start the show until there's a hundred dollars in super chats Oh, Jesus Christ Just be evil. Yeah, that would be evil. Just be evil Here's a non-stop and watch out of principle. Nobody super chats for six straight days. We're just streaming music Are banging we keep our banger starts to our that would be so evil. Oh my god No one would ever let me live in a new money-growing piece of shit. Oh, yeah That's cool. So starting the stream we're giving away four hundred dollars right away. Let's go Yeah, right away, I mean to be honest at the very beginning of the stream. It's already got a hundred and twenty dollar giveaway Yeah, I know I know my strikers. I know all right. Well, thank you guys for an end Perfect as we're talking about evil ways to make money. Yeah, right. Yeah, we're not an evil corporation the I win button Slave labor. I'm gonna make Eric make all the work and I'm gonna take all the profits. Yeah slave labor Yeah, right. All right guys. Thank you for tuning in and we'll catch you next week later