 Chair well we're good to get going right at 430 we're good to go right at 430 welcome members of the public can participate in the meeting by attending in person from the council chambers located at 100 Santa Rosa Avenue it is recommended that social distancing be absorbed or zoom at www.zoom.us slash join or by toll-free telephone 877-853-5257 using meeting ID 867-58454073 public comment may be made by live during the meeting in person from council chambers via zoom or by phone the meeting will be live streamed at HTTPS slash slash Santa Rosa hyphen Santa hyphen Rosa dot legistar.com slash calendar click on the in-progress link to view the meeting can also be viewed on Comcast channel 28 and at www.youtube.com slash city of Santa Rosa I'd like to call this meeting to order and roll call a board member cook board member lip-tack board member Sharon here board member Weigel here board member with rich here vice chair birch chair Jones Carter here let the record reflect that all board members are present the chair will now ask for public comment on non-agenda item stating we are now taking public comment on item 3 this is the time sorry to interrupt next we're going to move on to item 2 approval minutes sorry if there are any changes to the minutes are there any minutes to approve we have minutes for March 2nd 2023 and March 16th 2023 do you have any changes to the minutes are there any changes to item 2.1 any changes to item 2.2 let the record reflect there I'm sorry that I wasn't at the meeting so I'll need to abstain okay thank you let the record reflect there are no changes sorry okay now the chair will ask for public comment and non-agenda items we are taking public comment on item 3 this is the time when any person may address the board on matters not listed on this agenda but which are within the subject matter jurisdiction of this committee if you're a member of the public and are attending in person please make your way to the podium if you're on zoom you can raise your hand by selecting the raise your hand icon located at the bottom of your zoom screen if you're calling in please press star 9 chair Jones Carter I don't see any members of the public making their way to the podium and I don't see any hands raised on zoom thank you item 4.1 statement of purpose zoning code chapter 20-52-030 F project review the review authority shall consider the location design site plan configuration and the overall effect of the proposed project upon surrounding properties and the city in general review shall be conducted by comparing the proposed project to the general plan any applicable specific plan applicable zoning code standards and requirements consistency of the project within the city's design guidelines architectural criteria for special areas and other applicable city requirements item 4.2 board member reports are there any reports I just want to congratulate now chair Jones Carter on her recent appointment to chair of designer view board so congratulations thank you very much oh I would I would also like to report that Victoria has consented to be the appointee for the waterways commission thank you very much item 4.3 the vice chair election the chair will open item 4.3 vice chair election and then ask for nominations I'll jump in as the current vice chair and also welcome chair Jones Carter thank you and look forward to working with you on the board I would like to thank everyone for having me as chair for a period of time vice chair for a period of time but I'd like to nominate drew Weigel as the new vice chair working with chair Jones Carter in the board and drew thanks for your service as chair and look forward to continuing to work with you as a couple of the old salts here so my nomination is for drew as the vice chair is there a second all second that are there any other nominations last for a vote on the first nomination board member cook sorry board member lip-talk board member Sharon I board member Weigel I should probably just say I right that's probably a good one yet I board member with rich I vice chair birch I alright so that motion passes with seven eyes congratulations to board member Weigel who is now our vice chair so so Michael and I get to play musical chairs now and we do yes you can switch the name plates and that'll make it easier I think there we go look at that in congratulations thank you thank you item five department reports thank you chair Jones Carter and congratulations on your recent appointment I also wanted to thank now vice chair Weigel for his years of chairing this board we sincerely enjoyed working with you and you you did a fantastic job and we just appreciate the thoughtfulness and effort that you put into every meeting and also thank you to board member birch for your time as vice chair and chair also in the past I also wanted to thank board member lip-talk for volunteering to serve on the waterways advisory committee I'm more excited to have a DRB member back on that committee and lastly just a housekeeping item since we're adjusting to being back in the chamber please make sure when you speak into your microphone it's pretty close to your mouth and there's a little push button it should be green when it's on it really helps to capture the audio for our recording purposes for those who are not in the chamber so thank you item six statement of absenteeism abstentions excuse me okay item seven are there any consent items none it's good to have help item eight scheduled items 8.1 public hearing design review for stone bridge multifamily units at 22 20 Fulton road which was found in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act because it is consistent with the previously adopted mitigated negative declaration and subsequent addendum file dr 22-043 the problem okay okay are there any x party to close disclosures okay their presentation by the planner I think we're going to do the planner and then the applicant yes and you just have to wait for the planner who needs to figure out her electronics just make sure you don't break any electronic Susie again okay good afternoon chair Jones Carter and members of the design review board let's see let me get back to the beginning here the project before you this afternoon is the stone bridge subdivision multifamily units not to be confused with the stone bridge duets that were before you a few weeks ago this project is located out on Fulton road on the opposite side of town it's 2220 Fulton road and it's these duets are within a previously approved subdivision so I just want to give you a little bit of project history so it's it's we'll help answer some other questions back in May of 2021 the Planning Commission approved the stone bridge subdivision with a hundred and five single-family residential lots that project included parcel a which was intended for stormwater treatment and subsequently the water the Water Board California Water Board decided that that was not an appropriate application anymore and the stormwater needed to be treated on site so the applicant team came back in with a new tentative map which included the subdivision of that parcel a and now 108 residential units required a conditional use permit for a small lot subdivision as well as an addendum to the previously adopted mitigated negative declaration that was mentioned in the description from the agenda and and it also included on five or ten of the lots five duplex units and that's what's before the design review board the today that the those duet units were scheduled for design review before the zoning administrator on March 2nd we received a request for public hearing excuse me there are five of the same floor plans for the well I should say there's ten units and there's five of each four floor of two floor plans there are two different or I guess two or three different finishes on the outside and I will let the applicant speak to those but it was elevated because it goes over 10,000 square feet even though you're looking at really about 6,000 of the same thing over so anyway so here we have again it's two floor plans with two exterior finishes the craftsman style on the top and the farmhouse style on the bottom here's an aerial view of the site today and important to recognize on the bottom part of the screen right in the center you see a cut-in actually not the cut-in but you see the street I guess it's it taps into Orleans Street and it's tough to see actually maybe I can get my mouse over that up here to the north and you'll see it better in a future slide and down here to the south you'll see it here those those streets are important to the project these are the existing conditions what you can see in the lower left-hand corner of the southwest corner is the property is developed with one single family residents and outbuildings you can also see that there are it's pretty heavy with the wetlands on the on the east side of the lot so here's the approved tentative map part of the tentative map approval process included the review of neighborhood circulation and of course the wetlands which has been a big it was a big part of the project because half of the map dedicates that section on the right there to to a wetlands preserve so it's really it's and that's the first phase of the project where the map will be subdivided into two parts first the residential component and the wetlands component and then coming in right after that phase to the map where it will subdivide the residential side into the 108 units or residential lots so here's the development plan that was so this really focuses on that that the right side of the or the residential portion and then the stars show you where the duets are located they're all located on street corners but with each unit taking access from a different street the general plan land use designation for this area is low density residential it's a the zoning is plan development it's a residential plan development and is consistent with the general plan land use designation some of the general plan and goals that I want to highlight are of course it helps meet the the housing needs of Santa Rosa residents but more importantly it also helps meet the housing needs for low income residents there these these units will be deed restricted for a period of 55 years for people making less than market income so it's for these will be for moderate income occupants it also preserves a very large piece of the property to for habitat which is a big plus the project as a whole and the duets before you have been rude reviewed and compliance with all the development standards of the zoning code and we find that the staff has established that the findings can be met the design guidelines and the does this the general plan have a lot of overlap in the direction that they provide so in addition to providing affordable homes and meeting the housing needs of Santa Rosa residents and providing habitat the this project has been designed to to mitigate some of the impacts to its neighbors now this is a this is a hard one to perceive its neighbors haven't been constructed yet it's single-family residential these five units are smack dab in the middle of a previously proved map so it would be every unit will be surrounded by single-family residential of similar architecture similar materials similar character it was and as I mentioned earlier nice to keep an eye on those streets to the north and south this project will connect the neighborhoods to the north and the south by extending the streets back right through the center of the intersect or the the subdivision it incorporates a lot of the you know the foundation of our design guidelines it puts the same materials on all four sides of the building it includes multiple exterior material siding materials and avoids t111 it provides every unit has a front porch or a covered entry here's kind of the neighborhood context so the two projects to the north and south the residential similar density development then of course the stone bridge to the to the east and there is a small lot I'm sorry rural residential across Fulton Road that area is within the county as well so this is right at the urban growth boundary and city limits and this I kind of superimposed the map here so that you can see how it connects those two streets or those three neighborhoods now with Andre Street I believe or Andre Drive so I don't usually those of you have been on the board a while know that I don't usually add a whole lot of the applicants plans but the applicant has chosen not to do a presentation and I wanted to make the plans available I believe you'll want to say a few words but and he's certainly available if you have questions but here is the here are the elevations for the craftsmen style these were included in the elements for the the attachments for the staff report I am how I will bring these back up as you need them I'm happy to if you're having a hard time reading those materials I'm happy to do so but I'll keep on going so here are the different materials material selections and the lighting fixtures and let's see here is a kind of a standard landscape plan that's for for all the duet units that as I said we're on on the corner and the fence the standard or typical fence six-foot fence they well I guess that's coming up in the next slide they've proposed three different landscape pallets for all three and I want to say that I received a question from a board member and I did not have time to respond in writing to all of you so I'll I'm going to address that now there was a question about whether or not these this arrangement of plants will be required or will meet the requirements of the city and the answer is yes the entire subdivision and it's a standard condition of approval when a project comes to you it is always required to comply with the city's water efficient landscape ordinance so this is kind of a sampling of the plants that you'll see and I I have to say I was impressed myself that they had three different pallets for different house styles so the California Environmental Quality Act is mentioned previously there was an initial study that was adopted by the Planning Commission back in May and May of 2021 project came back in I call it a repeat performance it added three more residential units the impacts were not significant and were addressed in an addendum to the adopted mitigated negative declaration on December 8th last year so there are no unresolved issues there were no issues raised I take that back there was one issue raised as part during staff's review and that had to do with roof lines overlapping property lines and the project has been conditioned in the resolution with a condition that was agreed upon by the building division the pros and the and the applicant the other pros they we did receive our public comments and concerns during or after the noticing went out there there were concerns about the impacts the to traffic those concerns were considered also during the Planning Commission hearings and and you know I want to say that the general plan anticipates this sort of development in that location and that the plans were reviewed and conditioned appropriately by by city staff engineering traffic engineering fire department specifically so there's all the circulation issues have been addressed Fulton Road they will be responsible for widening that section of Fulton Road there are some very significant measures that they have to meet and they're detailed in the DAC report that was also attached as an attachment to the staff report the other concern was the wetlands when people hear development I think they assume with good reason because it's usually the case that all the wetlands are going to be destroyed but in this case half of the project is being designated and development rights for fitted so yay one for the wetlands right so let's see and then there were also a couple of other comments that I would like to address in the staff report under the design review section there was a question about infill development it did this doesn't look like a typical infill development because nothing's developed around it yet but these these again these these five part or 10 parcels five duets will be surrounded at some point by single-family residential so it really does it meets that and then the project as a whole is infill development also it it respects it it respects what's north and south of it east and west of it it's been designed to be compatible and then I want to apologize because I understand that the location map may not have loaded up on people's on your packets I apologize for that it's an inconvenience I'm sure but there were several maps in the presentation as well and I hope that that answered everybody everybody's familiar with the location so with that it's recommended by the Planning and Economic Development Department that the design review board by resolution grant design review for the Stonebridge multi-family units my contact information is shown at the bottom of this slide if anybody is interested in contacting me after the meeting I'm happy to answer any questions until then I'm yours if you need to answer you need answers and the applicants here to say would like to say a few words and he's also available to answer questions that concludes my presentation are there any questions from the board or the staff or the applicant I just want to ask if you'd like me to leave my my presentation up because it has all the plans yes okay I think he's going to say a few words you're waiting for me sorry sorry about that madam chair and members of the design review board my name is Peter Hellman I'm the applicant for this agenda item and first of all I want to say thank you for taking time out of out of all your days to come down here for this one lonely little item on your agenda so I really appreciate the time that you are spending as well as of course staff as Susie mentioned in her presentation the project received the planning commission's approval on in December of last year and this designer view item is a is addressing one of the conditions of approval that of that project specifically we're seeking approval of the design of our multifamily units which we call our duets but we're not allowed to call them our duets because it confuses everybody with another project on the east side of town so sorry about that but in any case we're proud of these units because to my knowledge at least this is one of the few if not the only for sale projects in Santa Rosa that is building its affordable units on site rather than paying a fee in lieu of of those units and so the project the units that you see the duet plans or the multifamily plans that you see before you today are those units that will be price restricted for 55 years for the benefit of 10 lucky moderate income households and as Susie mentioned I'm here to answer any questions that you may have and thank you again for taking time out of your day to spend a few minutes with with Susie and me oh I would be remiss to not say it's been a total joy to work with your staff you're very fortunate to have them on your side they beat the applicants up when they deserve it they praise us when when we need it but they do an outstanding job and in representing the interests of the city so thank you to Susie as well yes I want to ask just that's the overall question so that the subdivisions already approved and so what we're approving today is just the revision to the development plan and the affordable loss architecture can you explain for me yes that's a really good question I what's before the design review board today is are the duet units themselves the whole subdivision has been approved the you know the affordable units that's a contract and that's nothing else needs to happen there there was no density bonus involved in in this project so it is strictly the the duet units it's the reason that it's before the design review board is because the five of them together total more than 10,000 square feet while none of them trigger that individually I think we should see if there's any public comment and then we can proceed so we don't have any members of the public attending in person today we do have a couple on zoom just a reminder if you're attending via zoom and want to make a comment you can do so by selecting the raise your hand icon if you're calling in please press start nine chair Jones Carter there aren't any hands raised on zoom thank you so I'd like to open the public hearing on item 8.1 and now it's closed thank you are there any questions from board members yes thank you I have a couple and I'm sure they can be answered quickly so there's there's one that just I'm looking at the proposed resolution for the design review board and under planning division it says all landscaping must be continuously maintained in a healthy and attractive condition free of weeds and debris by the owners the people who buy like who made who does that maintenance that maintenance will be done by individual owners it'll be included in their CC and ours I believe that's a standard condition that we have and I think it's it's open to interpretation but what that means some people like a natural garden some people like there's more groomed so yeah when they become very unruly that's what we're hoping to avoid thank you I thought there was a reasonable answer to that I do have questions about the preserve and and one is a I'm I understand there's a wood bridge preserve right above the stone bridge preserve and I'm wondering what that boundary looks like what happens between the two are that can one move freely between the two so that's that's a that's a kind of a like you could draw the answer to that question do we know what happens there it's it's like 800 feet long that that boundary I'm going to defer to the apple and because I know he knows the answer to that I know I know the the stone bridge preserve is in addition to a substantial addition to the areas preserved for wetlands and to rare plants in the Santa Rosa Plain specifically the Burke's Goldfield in Sonoma Sunshine the adjoining wood bridge preserve is owned by the California Department of Fish and Wildlife our preserve the stone bridge will preserve will be owned by the stone bridge HOA and maintained by a land conservator and land manager that will be the beneficiary of a perpetual conservation easement to specifically answer your question the property line the property between the two preserves will be the existing barbed wire fence between the two that's been there for ever since wood bridge was built which I think was 2005 2006 thank you have you already identified the conservator yes we have it's the Golden State land conservancy that's been quite active out there thank you any other questions I have a couple sorry so there there just looks to be like a little bit of an inconsistency between some of the documents and that just may be because the project has evolved but on some of the site plans there's a parcel that's identified as previously previously approved parcel a and it's like I guess it's on the west side kind of mid midness and in some plans it's listed as a buyer retention facility and in others there's two units there I'm so I'm just curious which is it if Susie would you like me to field that one no I think I can okay so again the history the original the original plan was a hundred and five lots and it included that parcel a as as a buyer retention and then when you know in that in that period of time we found out that the the state water board kind of changing its BMPs right and and no longer allowing that application so back to the drawing board they went and they cut that parcel a up into three more parcels kind of reconfigured the parcels right in that area and changed it from a hundred and eight units or a hundred and five units to a hundred and eight so that's the difference and if I had some old graphics in there I apologize yeah I don't think that's necessarily old graphics it's just there's a it's there's both right so it's it was I was like wait what's going on here is it units or is buyer retention what's going on yeah and none of the do none of the duets are over there the duets are much closer to the center yeah middle ish yeah and then yeah because it I guess it was the on the approved tentative map there's a lot that's at the north and there was it's it's got the three lots that's why I was kind of scratching my head about the buyer retention if I may if I may add the original tentative map approved in May of 2021 showed that parcel a as a bio filtration the amended tentative map that was approved last December deleted the parcel a and now the bio filtration will occur in the fronts of each of the 108 lots yeah and I'm looking at the most recent tentative map so that's why because when you look at the landscape plan it still has the buyer attention that's all I just wanted some clarity on that so I appreciate it I think that's it for my questions I thought I had another one but I do not thank you question about the preserve and the landscape plans that are been submitted is there any I know that staff will review any plans as they go forward and we're to review them as well is there any any other eyeballs on the landscape plans that as they're being presented due to the fact that we're sharing a border with a preserve and I'm that's two questions is there are any you know is the state looking at this the Fish and Wildlife and proving the landscape plans and then to you know the we are also looking at the landscape plans and those pallets as part of as today so just to clarify I I'm gonna let the applicant speak to the preserve and as far as the the residential unit so again we've got a two-phased map we're gonna separate those parcels we're gonna have the preserve and we're gonna have the stone bridge subdivision I'm sorry stone bridge preserve and stone bridge subdivision staff will review all building permits which each must have the the landscape plan with it and that will be reviewed by staff when it comes in for compliance with the water efficient landscape ordinance and for typicals planning will take a look and make sure the applicants given us what they told they would told us they would so and then I'll defer to the applicant to talk about the preserve okay because I don't honestly I don't know whether the preserve gets planted or I would think it would be left rather natural but no no and I'm I'm actually interested in the landscape plans for the for the for the homes for the home so the residential areas because a lot of times and look at landscape plans in urban areas doesn't necessarily affect you know spread of propagules of seeds and whatever from landscapes but we're now right next to a preserve and so need to keep a close eye I hadn't thought of that okay the the four resource agencies involved in approving the stone bridge preserved are not involved with the residential side of the project but we now have our final approvals from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service the California Department of Fish and Wildlife in the regional water quality control board and we are now waiting only our final permit from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers which I expect literally any day now and our goal is and our requirement per our MMRP is to start constructing the preserve before we can start constructing the the residential subdivision and so as soon as the ground dries out in the plants all dives we can start construction of the preserve and we've already had plans in for grading permit review and approval we anticipate making a final submittal with all of our resource agency permits as soon as we get that darn core permit right yeah definitely sounds like a like a win for the preserve as he mentioned so it's wonderful yeah I'm glad to hear that and and just to clarify Susie we are we are looking at the landscape palates and plans to as part of this as well cool thank you that was yes Susie I didn't catch in my review my previous review that the bio retention swales will be on each lot and the typical landscape plans don't address that at all so it can we make that a condition or I just don't see anywhere on the landscape plans that are part of the the project plans that they say there's a bio retention on site you can condition but I'll say that in the conditions they are already required to have the bioswales on the the on each individual lot that's and they have to show that with with their improvement plans and and there are certain plants that I know can be planted in those bioswales but their landscape plans will have to comply with well oh as far as well as as the required bioswales I don't think it's necessary to add conditions I would add I would caution you because what we don't want to do is have a contradiction contradiction in conditions I'm happy to look through the DAC report and find the conditions that apply if you'd like me to and but I'd ask because there are a lot of conditions on that subdivision it'll take me a few minutes to go through there and find it but I don't think that that's something that the board should concern themselves with that that was a conceptual those are conceptual landscape plans it tells you what plants are going in typically the style you know the type of planting but they will not be allowed to plant those plants in the bioswale did that answer and I'm happy to go back and find the condition if I may add my question is more just a concern about where the bioswales are going on on each property and you know generally in these types of dividends they're you know on the street median which if you put them in the street median then you can't have street trees then the street tree master plan that we're looking at isn't going to be what we're looking at it's just you know I think it can compound on itself if we don't somehow address it hold on one sec if I may if I may add it's a really sharp observation it's something I hadn't thought about until you just brought it up so good catch the architectural plans and the landscape plans that you're reviewing here were excerpts from our plan set that was originally submitted it for approval that occurred in May of 2021 and when we went back to redesign the amended tentative map we were not revising the fundamental landscape plan for the fronts of the houses but what I can tell you two things first of all the power tension swells are planned for the space between the curb and the sidewalk in front of each home the improvement plans include the construction drawings for the landscape landscape plans as well and they've been submitted there they've been submitted for four times now for plan review so we're we're we're pretty close to completion and your comment regarding street trees we were actually able to design the bioretentions swale to strategically place trees in that median in that space as well because we you know to my mind at least the best part of an existing subdivision of the street canopy and so we are able to provide street trees there as well hey Mike I got an idea because the because the landscape plans that are here are outdated the condition that we might want to include that will help staff is we'll just say applicant shall provide updated or current landscape plan which they've are they've got they just have to slap it on to this application as opposed to just a building permit I think that would meet the requirement in terms of being being something that could be approvable from a conditioning standpoint without stepping on the toes of any other stuff I think at least in my opinion you think that sounds about right that would work for us to any other questions I'd like for someone to make a motion for the resolution and call for a second yeah can we add what Drew suggested as far as the condition we'll come back okay I don't remember how to make a motion but I will make a motion to approve design review for this item so I will make a motion to approve design review for Stonebridge multifamily units at 222-0 Fulton Road which was found in compliance with the California Environmental Quality Act because it is consistent with the previously adopted mitigated negative declaration and subsequent addendum file number dr 22-043 and waive further reading of the text someone like to second second we will have discussion yes you're oh I'm you're going to be last okay can we start with Adam Sharon board member Sharon yeah sorry sounds good sorry Adam I recommended to Melanie earlier that we put you in the hot seat because you do such a good job so typical yeah I'm glad you're not the chair anymore drew thank you yes and thank you thank you applicant for coming again and for you know continuing to see this through thank you for that and thank you for the presentation and the words that you've mentioned and it's apparent that you know your investment in this you know personally and so thank you very much for for the presentation thanks Susie as always and yeah this is a complicated one so thanks a lot in terms of comments for the architecture it I don't have too many comments it all looks good to me I appreciate the rationale with you know fitting in with the surrounding proposed architecture I think that this all looks good my the main point that I wanted to bring up and I asked about this and with my question with the the landscape plan yeah it's more of an ecological question at this point and with the potential I think on the whole you've done a great job with with coming up with the three plans it's amazing to see I appreciate the variety I would like to to to to see I'm not certain exactly how to to condition this but basically some some more eyeballs on the plant palette to evaluate in terms of invasive species potentially spreading into the preserve the one that got me is the legustrum right away that's the privet is is in invasive in many ways and it will definitely spread into the preserve and that's just one species the rest of them are definitely look look pretty good that one I'd like to see taken out and I'd also like to see that the potential palates the updated palates the current palates just to be reviewed for potential invasive species Susie yes can you repeat the name of the plant sure it's it's the privet here IV ET and the Latin name is legustrum LIG US TR UM thank you sure and you know I'm not certain if that would be fish and wildlife I'm not certain exactly this is where I'm not sure about how to condition this if it needs to be an official review or if it's a taking the the plant palates to the Laguna Foundation or to you know a biological just some figuring out some to have a review for for invasive potential invasive species perhaps a qualified professional sounds great so have the plant palates reviewed by a qualified professional to eliminate invasive species yes yes that's that sounds good just one there because as I mentioned with most of the urban design that we do it's not necessarily too important you know spread of invasive species if you're in downtown area is not a huge deal but if you're sharing a lot with with a preserve it's it's pretty important so just to just have another view on that and on the whole we've done a great job with this and I'm not certain with the landscape lands of that species has been taken out in the current plant palates so we're reacting to what we have in front of us and that should do it actually for my my comments so thanks very much Michael great thank you yeah I would say overall these are funny funny projects we did one of these several years ago when I was the chair where the corner lots we sort of at the time we were sort of surprised by why are we looking at ten units out of hundreds so but I will say this this project to me sort of checks all the boxes and more I love that the affordables on site I think that's to be you know that that's to be praised and I would like to see a lot more of the developments do this I think one of the things that I like very much about the architecture is is you know again there's the dignity of these homes being the same home as the single family home next door and the design on the corner with the landscape plan allowing for these to just simply appear as two different homes there's not a difference it's been cleverly designed to not be a different home than the home single family homes and under direction so I think that the project is this piece of the much larger project is fantastic and handled with with really with dignity and love to see this project gets get built and decrease our housing deficiency so thank you going to the other end of the table Victoria I have I have no comments I'm good good Ernest yeah thank you no actually I have no negative comments or critiques of this one I appreciate the design that it is you know similar to what was mentioned that you know the architecture itself I think looks great but I also really appreciate that it's integrated in terms of the placement of the units is actually within the neighborhood itself instead of being kind of you know hidden away that this is the more affordable kind of housing this is very much in the front of the major drives that are passing through it looks like a street and it's a little blurry on this plan but no I think it does a good job of presenting something that's creating some affordable what it was at price restricted units that's really cohesive with the rest of the development so I'm good with it thank you Michael to have any questions comments I'd agree with what everybody else has said I really appreciate the applicant and staff's efforts the plant pallets I'm the land I'm a landscape architect so I look mostly at plants and well oh and I thought the plant pallets put together were really nice I agree with the former Sharon that the guest room should be removed from the pallet and then any other lands that are on here that a qualified professional the term is our invasive and then you know I also agree that the architecture was done really nicely and matches up with the rest of the development and you know does appear to be two different houses even though they're not so I think architected a really nice job with the elevations and also the materials so appreciate the efforts and I would still like to add that one the one condition about the bioswells yes yes I'm up now so just have a couple of minor comments again appreciate the package really great job overall you know the design guidelines do have a section about single-family architecture even though I don't think generally we really look at them you know as a board we don't look at single but what's nice is you're kind of hitting all the stuff that's in our design guidelines for single-family residences there's a lot of variation there's a lot of color palette differentiation so it's it's gonna be really nice from I think Michael mentioned dignity I think not only the duets but also the single-family homes you know everybody's going to be able to have like their own house right and the house next door isn't going to be exactly like the house next door right that they're not going to be the same thing so it's really nice that there's a nice flexibility of all the different types of plans and finishes and colors and things like that so I really appreciate that the only recommendation I would make on this I have a color recommendation and it's just a recommendation just because there's a project on Petalum Hill Road it's a multi-family apartment project it has a color very very very similar to Sherwin Williams your dark night which is your accent paint color in farmhouse scheme 6 and it's it's got that blue color all over it and it is fading horribly right now and that project isn't that old so I think it's just the door it's undercover it's probably okay but just you know maybe rethink it and then the same thing for the paint color one for the door stolen kiss and scheme 5 for the farmhouse there's a again there's another project that's got some red on it in that same area and it is really chalky looking right now and it's not super old so just some of the dark colors some have a tendency tendency to really not age well and and look make you know but but by and large I think the pallets are really nice except for those two little minor things and this is me probably being a nitpicky architect from a detailing perspective but the the the false you know the stone veneer columns that you've got I'm I I deplore this every time I see it it's it's the gap in between like the concrete patio and the bottom of the stone veneer and I know why it has to be done for the warranty of the stone veneer I get it but like it drives me up a wall because it doesn't it doesn't the column doesn't look complete right it looks completely fake and what's I think it's going to detract from this because your architecture is actually really fantastic and so that little gap is just gonna it's gonna drive some homeowner bonkers but again it's a warranty thing and I get it and so I don't think we need to condition any of that but I thought I'd you know make a couple comments about it but by and large I think great designs I love all the massing changes and the roof line changes and things like that so it's a these are all gonna be really really really nice and I agree on the buyer retention condition however we figure that out yes we will need some work on that language I don't have anything else to add so I yes I did I'm sorry before we do I did have another question when when is the when are the other what's the second phase of the development how long will these 10 units be by themselves sorry hello again the conditions of approval adopted by the Planning Commission in December requires the affordable units to be built in proportional share with the single family to attach tomes and I don't remember what those percentages were but essentially we have to complete them at the same time okay thank you all right so I see that there is one condition maybe two from Adam a review of a final plant species for invasive plants by a qualified specialist yeah it sounds good and I think Susie may have even had the condition going we went ahead and drafted as we were going there so let me just read these make sure that they they satisfy our landscapers the first one is applicant shall provide current landscape plan showing location of bioswales or bio retention with the building permit and the second one is shall shall have updated plant palates reviewed by qualified professional to eliminate the use of invasive invasive species or maybe not the use yeah and boy they avoid the use of invasive species is that okay for our landscapers I think it grabbed the bio retention and the invasive species it's good by me I would prefer not to use invasive species period not avoid like just don't use them if I can you repeat that just instead of using the word avoid which seems to allow the use if needed to not allow in what invasive species or to I think the word we have eliminated here okay prohibit it shall have updated plant palates reviewed by a qualified professional to prohibit the use of invasive species we had a little lemonade is what we had eliminate not a I may have misspoke I may have said avoid but it reads eliminate eliminates fine too if I may hear eliminate works for me too yes go ahead sorry to sorry to interrupt when you brought this up member cook originally I immediately thought of who I think would be an appropriate person to review the plans and that's Sarah Gordon who is a plant geneticist and plant biologist and she is the person that is going to be responsible for shepherding the the success of the Stonebridge preserves so we hit our performance criteria with the Army Corps of Engineers and US Fish and Wildlife Service and it's a very valid point that you raise and we want to make sure that there's no plants in our subdivision that are going to impact the success of our preserves so thank you for bringing it to our attention wonderful thank you and I think you've identified someone who would be a great candidate thanks to you this is just a recommendation or just a when your door fading colors I don't think we need to condition it that it's more just a conversation right I mean you know I think their palates find the way it is I'm just cautioning them that we've seen some projects in the last couple years with similar colors and they're suffering a little bit with those dark colors that's all so but I but I think in the instance of these particular doors because they're the front doors and they're under their porches probably be okay but you know it's it's more of a just a thoughtful recommendation you know as he has to carry a warranty once he builds all the buildings and you know homeowners are going to be yelling at him and saying why is my front door faded yes come out replace it or paint it and we don't want to do that all right so I think we need a friendly amendment to for the conditions yes I would like to friendly amend the motion with the two conditions as previously read by the illustrious project planner Susie Murray in a second someone I'll second that I'm reading this the resolution was motion by true no oh sorry Mike and second by Victoria and now I will ask the recording secretary for roll call vote board member oh sorry I accept the amendment I accept now we'd like a roll call vote board member birch aye board member cook aye board member lip tack aye board member Sharon aye board member with rich aye vice chair weigel aye chair Jones Carter aye stop motion passes with seven eyes congratulations before we move to adjournment I'm gonna just congratulate chair Jones Carter on her first meeting thank you right oh please note this action is final unless an appeal is filed with the city clerk's office within 10 calendar days of today's decision pursuant pursuant to zoning code 20 dash 62 dash 0 3 0 and with that I'd like to adjourn this meeting we did it