 There are maybe tactics, whether they're right or wrong, are things that I've used. One is to know that you're gonna be asked the outrageous interview question. You're going to be asked, you're going to be the only person of your character in the room. You're going to have those experience and you kinda have to be ready for them and power through them, but in a very quiet way and to never have a chip on your shoulder. The chip cannot be there, it's gotta be, you gotta lose yourself in the profession. Lose yourself in the moment, in the passion, in the issues. The way that I get through this is that I care about what we do and whatever the topic is of the meeting, I lose myself in that. So I'll speak because I have something to say, not because I'm a woman trying to make a point. You forget who you are. Lose yourself in the moment and the passion of the profession.