 Hello. Welcome to the live stream. Hi, Kath. Oh, look at that. Look at that. Unprofessionalism. It's not even set up properly. Just a second. Let me get that right. I'm using the the beta at the moment. So I've probably got a few. There we go. I'm gonna stick this up just in case anybody does want to join in as well. There we go. I'm all over model this morning. I've actually got up a bit later than normal and in fact I sort of move this forward a little bit because I'm doing leader this week but then also I had a conference that was basically 14 hours on zoom yesterday and I got the same again today so sort of eight until 10 p.m. and the same tomorrow as well. So I did actually earlier on in the week let a couple of people know that I wouldn't be going live because I thought well there's no point to add it to my schedule and then my sleep patterns would have been all over the place I thought but then in doing leader this week one of the little learning exercises we had was about consistency and basically always showing up and not not breaking any sort of regular patterns that you've got so I thought well that's a bit of a clue really isn't it a bit of a sign that I should not be canceling this live stream so I thought well I'll just still do it but just do it a bit later so that I still get my my weekly live streaming so here I am and here I am 6 a.m. here and it's lucky because I normally go out at sort of 4 4 30 a.m. but I didn't wake up until 4 30 this morning so it has screwed with my schedule a little bit but been on zoom so much by the way when you're in the you know you come live community and live streaming community and youtubers and things like that everyone's you know obviously audio and video is a certain level and it's a really high standard it's only when you're doing zoom calls with other business people that you realize how terrible most people's audio and video is it's quite quite funny and I mean I use a green screen hey rich how you doing well actually I'm up I'm up late rich I woke up at 4 30 this morning and normally I'm streaming at 4 30 so that was yeah I blame my zoom call yesterday but yeah people on on these zoom calls where they've got you know like the the northern lights as their green screen background and the green screen keens terrible as well so it's all like half in and half out it's it's quite it's quite funny when you're watching professionals and these are you know professional business people but it just doesn't put them across in a good light if their audio and video isn't right and it does give you sort of instant credibility if you do have a better image and audio quality people just sort of seem to pay more attention to you so yeah it's definitely definitely a bit of an eye-opening when you're in the the the real world but anyway I don't normally have the the pink background by the way in business meetings I have something a little bit more professional so anyway that was that's why this is stream is a little bit later than the normal so let me just give you my normal update on my hundred videos in hundred days so here we are it's day 92 nearly at the finish line and I actually got off to a really good start didn't I I got quite a few videos in the bag so you know at day yeah whatever it was I was you know 5 20 videos ahead or was it I can't remember I was quite way ahead anyway and slowly over the weeks the the days have been catching up with the number of videos and now we're exact equal I've done 92 videos in 92 days so eight days to go so gonna gotta do another eight and I'm gonna be busy the next couple of days so I've got to really knock them all out next next week but don't worry I'll definitely do it so in 92 days 274 wonderful people have been enjoying my content well now that's not true 274 people have clicked the subscribe button in fact it's more than that because some people have unsubscribed but that's that's fair enough I'll let people off don't worry and 1300 hours of watch time 12,800 views in total so that's that for what it is so that's what happens if you post consistently for that amount of time basically I'm not drawing too many conclusions from that as such but that little thing about my video numbers so I'm at 92 and I'm aiming for 100 obviously and I've been thinking a lot about this and you know I want to put something together after a finished to sort of help other people who may be you know wanting to embark on something and maybe having a few issues getting over the line or you know getting over the start line that is and so I've been sort of thinking about this and one of the things that I do in there's another course that I do which is unrelated to this about something completely different but one of the things I talk about in that course is the the concept of smart goals this isn't something I've made up this is just a thing that I forget who made it up but I'm pinching it and it is in sort of common parlance at the moment but smart goals are basically they need to be specific i.e. I'm gonna make a hundred videos they need to be measurable well I can tell how many videos I've made it needs to be attainable it's one a day I should be able to manage it it's not like I'm saying I'm gonna make 50 videos a day you know there's not enough hours in the day to make them they need to be relevant and that is relevant to basically your your end goal what you're trying to what you're trying to do hey Greg so they need to be relevant to what it is that you're trying to do so I'm trying to improve my skills at creating ad hoc videos basically and you know growing a YouTube channel so certainly I got that the goal I set was relevant to that and they need to be time-bound so doing a hundred videos in a hundred days and I think if you set goals like this it's certainly like I say I didn't invent this but it certainly has helped me in thinking about the goals that I'm setting and also achieving them so like for now at this point I've got eight days left and eight videos to make well I'm definitely gonna make them aren't I I'm not gonna come to the last day and think oh never mind I'm too short I'm just going to do it whereas if it didn't have that goal then the next few days I'd think well I'm busy I've got a conference on or whatever so I'm not going to I'm not going to bother making a video and it doesn't really matter so there's definitely definitely something in smart goals so so that's that's just something I thought I'd throw out there for anybody who's interested so then this last week as well as leader which has been I can't I can't get over actually how how good leaders been because as I mentioned on my last stream when I actually said that I was doing leader all I thought it was was people getting together and saying hey let's stream every day for the month I didn't realize there was organization and structure and like an actual sort of growth and learning path to it I thought it was just a commitment to go live every day and that was up until the day before the first of August and then Paul Duncan mentioned it and Michael Powell mentioned about oh well you do need to stream into the group you have to sign up for it so it's been a really good couple of weeks really and there's been lots of sort of growth experiences learning experiences from it so it's been yeah really good I highly recommend it to anybody who hasn't hasn't done it before to can't sign up for this time but next time around sign up when I do sign up for it next time I've definitely got a block more time out for it because the time allowance that I'd given for it this month was I'm going to be doing you know a video a day for you know a 10-minute video 15-minute video a day for a month where's actually the power of leader is actually going and watching other people's videos and commenting on them and things like that and so that takes some time and it's something that I'm still I still haven't done what I need to do for that I need to go back and watch more of them and comment more on them but I just haven't had the time and I know some people have pulled out because of that constraint you do feel guilty if you're posting videos and not actually going and giving other people the benefit of your you know watching their videos and being present for them as well so it's definitely something that I need to work more on more on next week next next time around rather I'll book some time out for it every day so what else has happened this last week well I was on James Hicks show I really enjoyed that talking about my favorite subject recovering perfectionism which as I found has really excuse me something went down the wrong way there it's really touched a nerve with a lot of people in terms of you know a lot of people relate to it the idea of being a recovering perfectionist or at least maybe you haven't started on the road to recovery yet I'm not sure but this thing about it sort of holding people back and being a barrier to creativity I'm also going to be on actually JP high tech show this week coming up or next week whichever way it is 18th of August at 5 30 central time so that's next Wednesday is my Thursday morning Wednesday for most of the people will be watching so so that is again the same sort of topic perfectionist mindset as a creator so we're talking about the same sort of things and the more I'm doing these things and the more I'm talking about them the more it is sort of formulating ideas in my in my mind around this topic and as I say I want to do I want to put something together really to help people who are struggling with this sort of thing and struggling to get going and so I've been trying to formulate some ideas around this and one of them that is I've been sort of mulling over recently is about fear of failure and there's a methodology to actually overcome these sorts of things so I can tell you I can tell you how I learned this methodology and it came from I let me just get this book up wait one second drag this in here right so I quit drinking six years ago and I didn't I didn't ever feel like I was an alcoholic or anything like that but I used to drink me and my wife used to both drink every day after work we'd go to work do a hard day's work and then come home and we'd either have wine with our meal or we'd have a beer you're calling a friend's bar on the way home have a beer or something like that or whiskey or whatever and so we just have a drink every day basically as I say not to excess every day occasionally there'll be times when we drink to excess but not every day it wasn't like you know there's a guy that we know locally who wakes up in the morning and he'll have his coffee half coffee half brandy and that's him for the day then he's thought you know on to it all day and he's is what you would describe as an alcoholic whereas I never thought of myself as an alcoholic because well I was getting up I was going to work I was doing my thing and would just come and have a couple of beers in the evening so then at some point me and my wife both decided that we wanted to we wanted to reduce the amount we were drinking and we said well we don't really need to be drinking in a week do we so let's just save it for the weekend or something like that so we just we decided that that's what we're going to do and we found it really difficult and I personally found it really difficult and we would find like excuses for there would be some some reason to celebrate in the middle of the week so that we had an excuse to have a drink in the middle of the week or there'd be something had gone wrong and so there'd be a reason to commiserate. Hey Greg. So let me just add Greg in one second and I'll just finish my little story. There we go. Hey Greg, how are you doing? Can you hear me? Okay, Greg, can you hear me Greg? Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, cool, cool. Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah, please finish your story. I don't know, I was on a delay so I can't tell if you were done yet. All right, right, right. So so what I was talking about, yeah, so it was this thing of I decided that I wanted to reduce my alcohol intake and but my wife and I would both find excuses in the week for some reason to commiserate or some reason to celebrate and it would be the smallest possible reasons why we thought, oh, let's have a let's have a drink. And it was at that point that I realized that like for me personally, I'm not judging anybody else, but for me personally, that is the definition of an alcoholic. It's somebody who does it habitually, who has some form of like dependency, something that's pulling them towards it that is maybe against their better judgment or better logic. And I'm only talking like a couple of beers in the evening, but that is the way that I personally felt it was for me. And that's the way I sort of judged it. So the point, this is a bit of a long way around to say that I bought this book and I'll put this book up just now because I'll stick it up in the middle here. So I bought this book called The Easy Way to Control Alcohol by Alan Carr. Now, this book, I listened to this book on audio book and I haven't touched alcohol ever since and I've recommended it to a number of people and they've read it and they have not touched alcohol ever since. I've recommended it to some other people and they're scared of the book because they said, oh, well, maybe I won't want to drink, so I don't want to listen to it. But the way that this book had an impact on me, first of all is obviously I don't drink anymore. So that's a benefit that's come out of it. But the methodology that he uses to do it and there's a lot of this, this sort of easy way series. So there's easy way to control smoking and all these other sorts of things as well. But the reason why this book had an effect on me was because of the actual process that it uses. And I won't go into all the details of the book itself. But basically what it does is it gives you a series of logical steps that is sort of your thought processes. And then it disassembles those thought processes so that you have a realization at the end that the way you've been thinking is totally incorrect, basically. And that's sort of the way people think about alcohol. Again, not judging if you like, like a drink, that's no problem. But for me, the effect it had is I realized there was no reason for me to actually want to drink. So the way I'm trying to get to with this is I've been thinking about this with fear of failure as well, because this is something that a lot of people have is this fear of failure. And really, there's nothing to fear about failing because nothing's going to happen if you say you're going to do 100 videos and you don't do 100 videos. You know, nothing's going to happen at the end of it. Really, what the fear is, is it's fear of embarrassment. That's what people are afraid of when they're afraid of failure. They're afraid of embarrassment. So what is embarrassment? Well, embarrassment is basically what you think other people think of you and you're sort of projecting like, well, this is what people are going to think about me if I don't do what I say I'm going to do. But then ultimately, that is just you picturing the worst possible scenario. You know, we're all our own worst critics. And so people, this is what I'm thinking. I'm just thinking aloud here. It's you, it's people visualizing the worst possible scenario of an opinion that somebody might have of them. So bearing in mind that we are our worst-owned critics and people don't actually mind and the vast majority of people, if people don't, you know, if you're striving for a goal, let's say, or you're starting a business or something like that, and you don't actually achieve what you'd set out to do, the majority of people aren't going to have the absolute worst case view of what you have set out to achieve and failed. They're actually going to be supportive and compassionate. And this is what I've been finding from leader this week. You know, there's people who have been sharing stories about things that have happened and everybody is just full of support and compassion for them. So I'm trying to get to some, some sort of methodology of removing this fear of failure by breaking it down into these logical steps that actually if you think you've got a fear of failure, it's a fear of embarrassment. That's your worst idea of what someone might think of you. In actual fact, the majority of people would never think that of you. And in fact, the people will be there to support you and catch you if you stumble or whatever. And so in therefore, there is nothing to be afraid of by actually just giving something a go in terms of, you know, I'm not talking about starting fire juggling or something like that. But I mean, doing something like getting content out there, it's trying to remove that fear. So I'm only just talking about this because it's something I've been thinking about with going on this thing with JP and trying to try to put things into a context to help people because I'm getting so many people reaching out to me and saying, can you help me? I just can't make a start or, you know, things like this or I'm not sure how to go about it. I'm not sure if I'm going to be authentic or all these these sorts of questions that people are, you know, I get emails, people book calls with me through my buy me a coffee and stuff to talk about these sort of things. And so I'm just trying to articulate some idea of helping people with that sort of aspect of stuff. So that's my little rant over, Greg. Oh, that's great. I agree with you. I would say I would sell out because it's very interesting because I think I think maybe 90% of the time I think you're right that people are scared of like embarrassment or or the other. There is a very small percentage, however, of people who are scared of success. Right? And so they do self sabotage as well. Right? Yeah, sure. Sure. Yeah. You know, so I think there is an interesting and I like I said, I think I think it's like a 90% most people are scared of failing. However, I do think like addicts, they're they're scared. They can be scared sometimes of like what life feels like without the thing that they're that have the addiction to right? Sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah. Sometimes you see like founders and entrepreneurs, they don't want to launch their business because they're scared of the things that are actually going to happen. And usually there's a false assumption, right? Like of all the things going perfectly right and they're going to end up in this great spot. And so usually now what happens obviously, but they sort of pre anticipate success. And so then they sabotage it because they have they're anticipating the success like it's real, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So it's interesting, though. Motivation is the thing. I'm very much like you. I think I I every once in a while I would test myself to see if I can not drink to make sure. And interestingly enough, the way I solved it for me was I started like when I was 44 a couple of years ago, I started bodybuilding. Yeah. And part of the the side effects of like becoming a bodybuilder is that like once you start training and cutting down for like a show. Yeah. You actually can't drink as much or you're you're not allowed to drink. And so like I actually use that as a way to like cut out drinking for like at least half the year. Yeah. While I'm training as well. I mean, the the alcohol analogy was about the book, but it is funny talking about alcohol that I told somebody else a close friend about this. And I said, oh, you know, I've listened to this book and I'm never I'm never going to have a drink again. And his his words exact words were, oh, well, it's never say never like as if, you know, as if I'd been doomed to like never be able to drink again. And it was like a terrible thing. And he's like, oh, well, I'm sure there's still hope for you at some point. You might be able to have a look in the future. Funny people's attitudes and that thing you said about people afraid of what's with the alcohol book in particular. So many people are like, oh, keep it away from me. They're scared to listen to it in case it removes this thing that they they enjoy doing. And it's like I say, I'm not I'm not judging anybody for drinking or anything like that. And if they they're sure that's fair. Yeah, yeah. It was just really interesting, this methodology of the way the book works, like the way the book works on your mind to sort of lay out all of the all of the benefits that you believe you get from it, all of the negative effects that you believe that there are associated with it. And then it just sort of systematically removes all of those benefits that you think that there are associated with it. And then you come out of the other side thinking, Oh, yeah, there's nothing good in it for me personally. And so I'm trying to think of that same sort of methodology for this thing about, you know, people not getting to make a start. And it's it's funny because I've read loads of books about business and all this sort of stuff. But the one thing I haven't really read a lot about is the psychology of perfectionism and procrastination and all these sorts of things that hold people back. So I'm sure people have done a much better job of figuring out There are interesting books out there. Definitely. My best friend wrote this book called Life Scale. And it's actually a book all about distraction, actually, and how distraction has been built into our lives. Yeah. And what it does now is that distraction is actually a rate limiter on creativity. And that actually is something that sucks a lot of sort of the energy or potential out of our lives. By the way, I am interesting if I kind of been toiling with a book on the side as well. And I do have a framework for motivation actually. All right, right. So let me let me share it with you. I'd love your feedback on it. Yeah, yeah, your thoughts on it. So I used to be I'm a software developer. I used to be I don't write software that much anymore. And so my framework is called the wild loop. Right. And so while is an acronym and while it stands for Work Health Inspiration Lifestyle and Experience. Right. And basically the idea is that that the loop part is really about have creating legitimate outcomes towards ongoing progress. Right. So let me give you an example. A lot of people say, like, for example, oh, I want to lose weight. All right. I'll put my hand up to that one. Yeah, right. And and so the work part is really about like underestimating or not understanding the effort required. Yeah. Right. And so sometimes that's because we have like bad role models, right? Like sometimes because we have unrealistic expectations, like you were pointing out, right? The health or the age is really like the habit. It's like the measurement. It's the ability to create repeatable processes inside of a thing. And so most people, for example, I'm going to go on a diet and then they fail to do a diet after like two days. Right. Well, why is that? Because another part, the eye is the inspiration, like they don't find a target or they don't sort of find a realistic role model in the process of where they like to understand what they want to go. Right. So you're like, oh, great. I want to be Elon Musk. Well, that's not very realistic for most people. Right. And so kind of like in the smart framework that you're sort of alluding to as well. L is the limitations and it's kind of the same thing like smart, but it's like the boundaries that you face. Right. So like you can't lose 100 pounds in a month. Right. But you could lose five. Right. And so that was the idea about refactoring back like into legitimate outcomes versus like the ongoing goal. So like, yes, you understand you want to be 100 pounds lighter, say there's baby steps along the way to getting to that point that, you know, I think are really important. And like unless you refactor into smaller achievable pieces, more smart sort of mentality, right? Like you're kind of doomed to fail. Right. And then the last one is experience, which is like the nature of the effort itself. So for example, a lot of people are like, oh, I can't lose weight because I don't like cardio or I don't like running and I'm like, then don't run like go ride a bike, go paddle a canoe, like change the experience of the effort so that it's something enjoyable and something like that you want to do as opposed to making it something that's like a chore or work or whatever. Right. And so this is how I help like other founders as well. Or like people come to me all the time for like fitness advice. Once like I started training, like how do I get to here? And I'm like, well, you've got to have these pieces all sort of lined up, right? Like if any of these are out of whack. And so the idea of the wild loop, though is that change one of them. Right. So you this loop, a while loop in programming is like while something is true, it's true until an exception causes the loop to break, right? Yeah. So it's like while overweight, you play with these variables, you change the work, you change that, you know, the habits, you change your inspiration, you change your lifestyle or your limitations, change your experience until you finally break out of the loop. Right. And then you can refactor, right? So then you can say, great, oh, that work. Now how do I go from this point to this point? I love that analogy. I love that. I love the programming link. It's so true, though. Yeah. If you could just break the chain and the cycle, then it's, yeah, that's really powerful. That is and it feeds itself, right? So the second you get a little success, then you're like, oh, I can do it. And then now you can now you can do more. Yeah, it's always the initial sort of starting, right? That's always what clobbers most people. I'll just quickly say hi to Glenda and thank you very much. Oh, yeah, it's, um, yeah, it'll be really interesting to read your your book and get your view. I have like notes and stuff. My title of the book is is minimum viable person. So I'm a product manager, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so my whole philosophy is really about like people having a more balanced life and not working all the time and like as a as a formally abusive to myself entrepreneur who would work all the time. I've come to learn that there's way more to it. And, you know, you need to sort of find you have to show up to all the parts of your life at least a certain amount, right? And that's the minimum viable person is really like making sure you're the right amount of views everywhere you need to be as opposed to just all one thing. Well, so first of all, the minimum viable person, I love that because part of the thing that I've been talking about is with creators having set in if you're a perfectionist setting a minimum viable product for what you're trying to do. So I like the sort of link there. But the thing that you've just mentioned there about having balance, that's something that I'm actively trying to work on more in my life because I am, I am trying to pack a lot in. And so I do do, you know, obviously I do my YouTube stuff usually in the morning for a couple of hours then I've got my work and stuff. And there's definitely currently a bit of an imbalance in my life. You know, I should be spending, you know, more time with family, but I'm finding that I'm doing the YouTube stuff in the morning, but then I'm working a lot through the day and I've got different things that I'm working on. So I've, you know, got multiple different, you know, totally different business interests really. So I've got to try and sort of cram in to the day that it feels like I'm doing all of these things. And I enjoy them and they've been productive at them. But I'm definitely going through a process at the moment of just sort of reassessing things a little bit and trying to get a bit more sort of balance. I mean, it's the pandemic, actually, I know it's a terrible thing is that it is really on this under statement. But for me personally, I've been able to spend so much more time at home with family and not not traveling before I was away for basically 50% of the time. Whereas now I'm here every morning and I'm here when all the kids wake up and I'm here when they go to bed and I get to spend time with them throughout the day. So it's don't don't not give yourself credit for that either though, right? Like I guess this is the problem, like, is that you're also discounting that that is still a tangible improvement, right? Like, sure, we always can want more, we can always make it better. Yeah, but I'm grateful that you got that part, right? Yeah, that's still like I was the same way as you by the way was on the road 50% of time he's to fly 160,000 miles a year. Yeah. And I now I haven't left my house like in forever. Yeah, I get what you mean. But part of the thing with me with founders, especially like us right is it's understanding it's it's about minimizing the guilt and understanding that we made choices. And so being accountable to the choices we made to be the way we are, right? So that means that we have the power to change it whenever we're ready. Right? If you want to slow down your YouTube, you maybe you won't do your challenge at the same intensity. And you say, you know what, I proved myself I could do it. But I want to get back one of those hours for my kids, right? Like, that's a choice you can make, right? Like it's not like but we all make choices. We're not victims here, right? Like we're sure we're making these choices and we can choose to put it in different places. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's definitely definitely I acknowledge that it is the way that I have structured things and I have the power to change it as well. But it will be more that it'll be more the daytime stuff. The thing I found with the YouTube stuff is when I started it was an exercise in self development and in being able to sit down and make these videos because I need to do that for some of my other work roles of making course material for some other things. So that's that's why I started the YouTube channel originally was just to sort of practice this this process. But the more I've got into it, the more that I'm actually it's become it's becoming a lot more present in my mind during the day when I'm doing other stuff as well. Because I'm I'm actually really enjoying it. And it's part of the you know, the sort of community side of stuff has been. Yeah, yeah. It's a really, what's the word? At least I was going to say addictive is probably not a good analogy really. But it is there's something about it where it's nice, you know, it's filling for sure, right? Yeah, it's human, it's connection, right? It like, why do I come here? Just because, you know, we've become friends through here. And I like, I like, I never want to see you alone. So if I if I'm around, then I can make it at your show. This is our small window to chat, right? Yeah, yeah. But you're right. You think, you know, it's interesting, right? Like, that these things, one of my my hacks though, that I recommend to people is see if you can, if your worlds can collide sometimes, right? Yeah. So it could be like, maybe your kids would love to learn how to do this, right? And I'm sure the priority toilet around over there. They already are. Yeah, my sister's making her little videos. My sister, my daughter is already making her videos with it with her sister. But yeah, they're, I don't know, a little bit a little bit too young to be YouTubers. Well, you don't have to put them on air. But you know, but what it is, is the thing that you're learning and you're doing something together. And that's it's such an expressive form. Yeah, like for them any way that there's something really powerful about in bonding through it anyway, right? Yeah. But you know, I think that's what everyone thinks is that you have to do one thing at a time. And sometimes I know multitasking is not optimal in a lot of ways. But sometimes you have a certain amount of things you have to do. Maybe you can do them together or find ways to make them fun or interesting, you know, like my friend's daughter or sons, she's made them all entrepreneurs. They have a soap company now, like and they're running it together and she's but she's an attorney, you know, and right, right? Yeah, like that that she turned it into an activity like with them, you know, like, you know, this is pretty interesting, like to see entrepreneurship. Yeah, the great thing about watching kids doing like making videos is all of the things that in in leader, you know, they're helping people to be honest, the stuff in leader, I don't I don't have an issue with just sort of being myself on camera or anything like that. But there's a lot of people is is getting over getting over yourself to just be yourself and chat on camera. But the one thing that you notice about kids is they don't have any of these hangups. You just give them a camera and oh, here we go. This is what I'm doing. It's like it's natural to them. It's really it's lovely to see. I feel terrible because I did sign up for Leah and I have not submitted one video or been to the group. Right. Right. Well, it is a massive time commitment. I had no idea. I didn't even realize it was doing all that stuff that you were just saying was in it. I had no idea either. Yeah. I mean, I didn't so it's organized by Luria Petrucci. Yeah, but I never used to and I used to watch her back when she when she first started, she did a load of tech videos as Callie Lewis. Yeah, that was that was a sort of pseudonym and then she she started doing something. Was it Geekbeat or Geekbrief or something like that? Yeah, that was like that was a scene, wasn't it? It was a scene or I think it was something like that. Yeah. And then it had come up. Yeah. So so I used to watch all of those sort of things. But I'd never got into the the sort of live streaming pros community because I don't have time to watch everything. And I was in docs community and stuff like that. So so yeah, I never realized that it was, you know, them that had organized leader and there's a whole sort of organizational process and have you have you been getting the emails with like the daily tasks to see the sorts of I see them. But you know, yeah, it's much like you I have, you know, like two consulting projects and the startup to run and that also. Yeah. So yeah, the day I get up at 330, we were talking about this, I get at the same time as you to like get my training in and all the other things so I can be ready when my son wakes up. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I just haven't had the time because the same thing I'm producing our live stream is twice a week and we're about to go to three days. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. I just I I also don't have a problem being on the camera, I guess. So but I would love to be able to help others like that part actually seems fun. I just don't have enough time unfortunately. Yeah. And it's and it is so much. It's not just the time that you're going to be doing your videos themselves. It is this thing of showing up for other people's videos and I've tried to do that. But there's like 200 and something people in now there's one there's one, you know, Sammy, Sammy superstar is in all the chats. He comments on everyone's video. He's I think he just blocks out August to go and watch everyone's video. And he's amazing that I don't know exactly how old he is. Is he 17 or 18 or something like that? But he's and he's school just started. Maybe he'll be busy. Yeah, it may be maybe. Yeah. But yeah, he's easy. He's awesome. He is Sammy. But yeah, the time involved to I see Glenda's talking about the kids put their videos in a private folder and they can watch them later. Yeah, definitely. I'm definitely keeping them up. But yeah, so it's a it is a big commitment leader. And I'm probably I don't know. I don't think I'm even spending an hour a day on it. You know, I do my video, which is like five, 10 minutes and then, you know, try and catch up with other people's and stuff like that. But it's just I'm going to try to do Vlogmas. That's that's probably the one. Yeah, that one. Am I right? That one is just literally you're doing a blog every day. Yeah, that's gonna be a real brain bender for me, though, because I don't publish videos. I only do live streams. So right, right. And so what Vlogmas is is not live. Is it? I believe it's like 30 days of logging, right? Or something to that effect. And you post basically like the month of December, I believe you post, right, right? Like a video day kind of thing. I'll be sure to check the full details before I before I commit to it. By the way, most most creators I've seen on YouTube and whatnot, like don't quite get it perfect. You know, I think it's the F. It's the effort that counts. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. I saw your holidays. Those is hard, right? Like how do you can't film? Well, it's yeah, the of all the months to think that you're going to be committing to do something. So yeah, pretty tricky one, I suppose, but I suppose it helped people get into the festive spirit, perhaps. So if you've mapped your last eight videos out, by the way, 92 was a big celebration yesterday. How come we're not having a 92 celebration? Well, actually, you know what? I should have thought about that. I should have got a key little logo up. But that was that was awesome. Yeah, it was really cool. I was like, I was like, I had no idea what I was tuning into. And I'm like, wow, this is awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I should have I should have made a big thing really. Shouldn't have 92. It's going to become the new milestone that everyone's got a hit in the LGL group, I think. I have a question for you, actually. The beta stuff, are you allowed to talk about the beta stuff in your video? Well, so this is the thing Doc sort of mentioned, we had a little in the beta group. We had a a live stream about it. And then, you know, Doc sort of jokingly said, you know, I've got all of my 20 videos done on the beta. But I've been in two minds about it really, because I almost don't really want to make public videos about it, although a couple of people have. But I don't necessarily want to make public videos behind it that cause people to think, oh, I want that feature and they jump on it because it isn't it isn't totally stable. I'm running the I'm running it now on this. Yeah, right now. Yeah. But I have had issues with it. So I wouldn't necessarily. There's some really amazing features in there. Profiles are awesome. Oh, profiles. Yeah. Things like just grouping, grouping overlays. Screensharing was a big one for me just to having a screen sharing overlay and stuff like that. There's there's so many things in there that answered like scratched an itch for me. And there's some that were like, I didn't even know I needed, but now I can't imagine not having it. It was it's amazing. But the problem with that is because they are such like they're the the feature they may move and they may be. Yeah, you know, even where they put them in the menus may change. Yeah, I get you. I'm so I'm sort of worried about people seeing the video and thinking like, oh, that's an awesome feature. I want that. And then jumping to a beta when they're not really, you know, they don't know what they're getting themselves into because if it doesn't go wrong, then they'll be then they'll be in the main ECAM group. It does so long side though. So it's not like you have to overwrite your other one. Sure. Sure. Yeah. But I think a lot of people don't quite understand what a beta is, you know, they just think it's always easy access to these features if they're not used to the idea of. So what happens if something goes wrong? Do you what do you do? You make a little video about it, post it in the group and say this is the you know, the issue of being having an in the beta group and tell people rather than, you know, and submit a support ticket and all that sort of stuff in the forum where people are there to, you know, share updates to make the software better, better, whereas people are not used to it, but just want the feature. If it goes wrong, I can just see them going straight into the main ECAM Facebook group. This is spoiled my live stream and, you know, right, right, right. Complaining in the way that they do, you know, what's what's definitely not used for production things, if it really counts. So especially someone's paying you for it. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So have you thought about your yeah, Glenda's like on that messing with that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's definitely well advised, Glenda. I yeah, I fully support that. James, what's up? Why don't you jump in here? Come on, man. I've got. So the funny thing is the first time I ever previewed this topic with my while loop was on James's show eight years ago. Oh, cool, cool. Yeah. I've known James, I think eight years, nine years, something like that. It's been a long time. Cool. Yeah, it was really fun being on on James's show this week. Yeah, you guys did a good job. It was a fun, fun, fun topic. I was a little upset that he didn't press you a really hard questions. Well, bring, bring him on. I'm still here. So here, I guess let me give you I'll give you not a hard question, but I will I did have a follow up question, I guess, from your. Yeah. From the talk that you guys did have, right? Yeah. Before the. When you talk about like, we're letting go of perfection. Yeah. How do you figure out how much to let go? Yeah, that is that is this thing I was talking about minimum viable product and working out what that is. And it's it's it's about actually I haven't totally let it go. So it's another way that I put it is it's about being happy with being unhappy about it. And it's this thing of like thinking, well, it doesn't actually matter if things aren't exactly perfect. Like the example I use was my thumbnails and everything would I would normally have to be a lot more structured about it and make sure everything was lined up and everything like perfect. Whereas now I literally if something's got to move up because the you know, I've dropped an imaging or something like that and it's difficult to not difficult, but it's going to take me too much time to tweak stuff, resize stuff and stuff like that. I just leave it and I think well, it doesn't really matter. Whereas before I would have been these fonts need to all be exactly the same, you know, size, the spacing needs to be the same. They all need to be aligned the same on every thumbnail. Whereas in actual fact, just to a thumbnail, it didn't really matter, does it? And so it's the fact that I can look at it now and think, well, that isn't how I would normally sign off on it. If I was signing off on it for well, previously for myself or but certainly for a client. Whereas now it's kind of like it nobody really cares. And it comes back to this thing of fear of failure and fear of being judged. I'm realising that part of this this sort of perfectionism thing is it's partly because I see it as an internal thing of I wanted in the past, I've wanted things to be perfect because well, that's the way that I like things, I like it to be perfect. But there is obviously some sort of element in there to not just it doesn't look pleasing to my eye, but I don't want other people to think that I have not noticed that this thing is wrong. It just doesn't mean right. So it's it's getting it's getting that thing of acknowledging nobody cares. I mean, they might care about it. But what I mean is that you might look at my, you know, I know that you've got a good eye for detail. You might look at my thumbnails and think, oh, look at that Joker is is spacing is all off. Someone who has to make his own thumbnails, I don't judge anyone's thumbnails as long as it exists. Like, it's a lot of work and I don't ever begrudge anyone to work. Yeah, but so what what it is is I know that people will will notice there'll be some people who won't notice at all. Some people just see them come up and they've got no clue whatsoever about any sort of spacing or kerning or anything like that. Hey, Eliseo, he's another one who's got things are on point as well. But yeah, so it's it's just that acknowledging that most people aren't going to care about it. And I'll see you later, Glenda. Just acknowledge she's she says you know, to your point, Alex, like I pitch a lot of founders, for example, when they're pitching their startups like to raise money or something, right? Yeah. And one of the common advice that you hear often is like, people always get up and they're like, oh, sorry, it's my first time I'm nervous or whatever. And I'm like, nobody knows you're nervous. Like, stop broadcasting that, right? Like, that's right. Like, nope, nobody knows the things it doesn't do, except for you, right? Yeah, yeah. So you don't need to live by that. Like, I think might like, if I was to try to answer the question, I would probably say like, the best thing to do is turn whatever you think it should be into the goal. Right. And then just get 80% of it. Yeah, yeah. Like, right. And be happy. So that is another another part of the perfectionist thing being sometimes a totally negative thing. Whereas actually there's a huge amount of positive in being a perfectionist because of that very thing. If you aim for perfection, then you're going to get something pretty good. Whereas if you aim for mediocrity, you're going to end up with something mediocre or less. So you're still going to end up at 80% of it. Exactly. Yeah. So I've also got to be conscious of not just hammering on this thing like, oh, I didn't, you know, throw perfection out of the window and that, but it should always be I always aim for it as a goal. But it's just a case of that. Yeah. Being happy with what is a minimum viable product. And that's the I don't like it when people say, you know, there's sometimes people in the group or something like that, they're struggling with with getting started. And so many people will just say, Oh, well, don't worry, just get your phone and go live in the group or something like that. You know, just do it like that. I could never do that. Like to start with I could do that because I've done live streams. But what I mean is for my channel, I'm not going to just start making videos on my phone. You know, there is a minimum viable product for me, which is that thing. And it's what are you absolutely comfortable with in terms of, well, if it looks, you know, all right for most people, it's that 80% thing. Yeah, then then then it's, it's, you know, it's acceptable. You know, I usually tell people don't don't treat the V as viable treated as valuable, right? Like, right. So like, like our mission is as people who create things for others is to generate units of value, right? Yes. And so I think viable actually is where the crappy nonsense comes from, right? Because they're like, well, can I call it? Can I pretend it does this? Right? Like it's so yeah, that's why I actually prefer the word valuable because I'm like, all right, sure. Yeah, it's a thing. Is it valuable? Right. And I think if you can say, yes, it's valuable, then you have enough, right? I love that. Yeah, I really do. Yeah, that is that is a very good reframing of it. And and it's part of the thing about, you know, there is somebody always wanting your content and they don't care the level it is. So that comes back to that really. That's the sentiment that I think when people like just go live, that's what they really mean, right? Yeah, yeah. Like. But we should be, we should do a better job of communicating the things, right? Like, you know, it's like, what's the gas gear acquisition syndrome? Yeah, yeah. Everyone everyone slips down that trail pretty quickly. Yeah. And you're right, because like what happens is like, you know, people feel like, well, I need this, I need this, I need this, I need this to be able to start. Yeah. And I'm like, wait, let's ask a better question. Do you have something valuable to say? Yeah. OK, great. Just tell me it right now. Right. And OK, if you could do that, hold your phone up and say it. OK. And if you could do that, push that out, right? And that's it, right? Like, and it's just like reshaping, because I feel like viable is where gear acquisition comes in, right? Because they see like our streams, they're like, well, I want to look like that. And if I can't look like that, then there's no point in going live, right? Not true, because you can still have a ton of value to offer everybody. Yeah, sure, sure. Yeah, that is a brilliant reframing of it, actually. I mean, the thing about the gear, though, I mean, that's part of the reason why I've sort of stubbornly stuck with, I mean, I bought a Mac mini last week to. So it's just the basic one, because I'm still waiting for the 16 inch MacBook Pro, to be honest, but I just thought. You get the 8 gig? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's what this is all running on also. Yeah. Yeah. So at some point, in fact, I've just got a one of these little external disk. Oh, nice. 200 megabits per second. So it's pretty, pretty quick for this read-write speed. But yeah, at some point, I'll probably convert this to probably get handed down to my daughter for her YouTube editing. But yeah, so that was the reason why I, you know, my camera, I've still got a 10 year old Canon EOS 60 days, my camera and stuff like that. So it's, I was specifically not wanting to go and say, right, what's all the latest gear that I need to get set up? And the other thing is I wanted to try and have it so that it was almost sort of self funding. So when I finished my 100 when I finished the 100 days, I liked it because it makes it tangible. It makes it real. Yeah. I think I saw Kirk stream today and he built and built and then now like the communities helped him. Yeah, yeah. He created enough value. And now he's like upgraded a bunch of his gear. That's like awesome way to do it, huh? Yeah, because I think a lot of people are stuck thinking, you know, how long it's going to, how long it's going to take to get monetized and things like that. And really forget about that. Too long, too long. Yeah. Hey, Steve, how are you doing? Yeah. All right, Alec, by the way, the speaking of family dinner time. Cool. No problem. Go upstairs. Always a pleasure to chat, my friend. Thank you for having me as usual. Oh, by the way, thanks for Heather's live stream of the day. I thought that was was great. I couldn't join the after party. I know it's it's a long run, but the after party is actually a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah. I'll definitely try one of them soon. Yeah, yeah. For sure. All right, everyone. Bye, everyone. Bye. Cool. Have a good day. Thanks, Greg. Catch you later. All righty. There we go. So, yeah, that is probably I'm going to call it a wrap because, as I say, I've come on a little bit later than normal because I do have another excuse me. I do have another 14 hours of Zoom call to get on to today. So that's starting in about an hour. Yeah, I've I realized so I did a 14 hour Zoom call yesterday, a 14 hour today and then another 14 hour one to tomorrow. But then I also realized it's Doc's office hours in the morning. So that's usually another about three hours. So I think 45 hours of Zoom on over three days is probably going to be a new record for me. And I'm not sure I want to want to beat that one anytime soon either. But yeah, that is that that's about all I'm going to cover for today. I'm going to go and have a little bit of time with my kids for the next hour before before I have to get back onto another Zoom call. So thanks, everyone, for stopping by and joining and thanks, Greg, for the conversation. It's be really, really useful as in sort of helping me formulate some things in my my my eyes. I love the minimum valuable product instead of minimum viable product. That's I think that's a really amazing sort of reframing of the phrase for people because yeah, if you stick with minimum viable product, you're still constantly questioning whether something is viable or not. Whereas if you can see that you've added some value, then it makes it a lot more a lot better, a lot easier to work to frame. Yeah, thanks, Greg. Great to see you. So that is all for me. I am if I can find my little outro button. Thanks, Rich. Nice to see you. Nice to see your smiling avatar as well. Cool, everyone, I will catch you all later and I don't have any proper. I still need to get some proper stream outro music don't have. But in the meantime, I just basically go to my typical end screen. So have a great day, everyone, and I'll catch you all another time. Bye bye, guys.